Thursday, December 29, 2022

Life Between the Two Omnis

We can argue about whether there is such a thing as “omniscience” -- infinite knowledge -- until we realize there is indeed such a thing as infinite knowability, the question being how this latter is possible, i.e., by virtue of what principle is this place -- our cosmos -- infinitely knowable?

I know — omniscience!

As usual, we’re just thinking out loud, but it seems to me that having only one of these characteristics would be like concavity without convexity, when the two define one another. 

Omniscience must be just the far side of omni… best I can do is cognoscibilis,  which the google machine says is Latin for “knowable”: the world is omnicognoscibilis, until  someone comes up with a more snappy term. 

As with the two omnis, so it is with man and God, however you define the latter. And former, come to think of it. I want to say that these are simply “terms” or “arrows” that point to and define one another. 

Don’t get me wrong: this is not to reduce God to man’s definition. Rather, only that, to the extent that we can think about Celestial Central at all... let’s just say you’re gonna need a bigger boat, and it will still never be big enough. What’s the word, Jeeves? Yes, asymptotic: concepts of God can only forever approach the target without ever reaching it. Nevertheless, the target is real. And some people just have better aim.

After a long life of writing longer books that few people will ever read, this was Voegelin’s bottom line, if I may be so vulgar. I keep on my desk a handy glossary of Voeglinian terms, which helps to reduce his sprawling corpus to borderline thinkability. We’ve discussed these before, but it can’t hurt to review them, partly because his way of thinking is close to my own. 

Let’s begin with COSMOS:
The whole of ordered reality, including animate and inanimate nature and the gods. Encompasses all of reality, including the full range of the tension of existence toward the transcendental.
Now, the first thing to notice about this definition is that it includes the animate, not to mention the gods. My competitors are happy to talk about “the cosmos,” but you will have noticed that this cosmos not only cannot account for the cosmologist, it eliminates him altogether. 

In the past we have characterized such thinkers as “infertile eggheads,” or maybe they’re sitting on a cosmic egg that will never hatch because it’s really just a rock. Sad!

In contrast to the infertile egghead are the free-range jñānins who don’t define what they’re looking for before they look.  

Okay, but what about the gods? No worries, they’re kosher, or at least it isn’t difficult to render them so:
God does not die, but unfortunately for man, the lesser gods, like modesty, honor, dignity, and decency, have perished (Davila).
Or this:
When man refuses the discipline the gods give him, demons discipline him.
So, call them living archetypes, or something. Whatever we call them, we can’t really kill them, only try to ignore them. It’s a hierarchical COSMOS, we just live in it.  

Back to our definitions: first, this is a COSMOS, and it includes us. But what are we, and what are we doing here? For it is as if human consciousness is like an inexplicable light set in the middle of… of a black nothing:



Which is preferable to scientism, which can explain anything but the explainer in the middle, darkling:


In reality, there is the COSMOS and our EXPERIENCE, which is
The “luminous perspective” within the process of reality.
It’s simultaneously in the cosmos but feels like its coming from the outside; it is always between the two terms or poles mentioned above, between immanence and transcendence. Voegelin calls this space the metaxy, and it is where we live:
The experience of human existence as “between” upper and lower poles: man and the divine, imperfection and perfection, ignorance and knowledge, and so on. Equivalent to the symbol of “participation of being.” 
Oh my. Getting late. To be continued. 

18 comments:

julie said...

When man refuses the discipline the gods give him, demons discipline him.

Pretty much sums up the OT right there, in a manner of thinking. And current year.

Gagdad Bob said...

Soon available in paperback, The Voegelin Reader: Politics, History, Consciousness tries two reduce about a billion pages to 464. Probably future blog material.

Gagdad Bob said...

The other day Rob Henderson linked to an interesting piece on how Most People with Addiction Simply Grow Out of It. Back in my undergrad days I and my friends did our level best to become alcoholics, but it just didn't take. Looking back on it, it seems that you can try to drown those gods, but they can swim. And if you keep trying, you will be disciplined by demons. I had one friend -- a roommate, actually -- who started becoming demonic, but I moved out in September 1983 and haven't heard from him since. I wonder if he pulled out of it? His name is too generic to search.

julie said...

That's interesting. I've heard it said there are hardly any old addicts, because people either grow out of the addiction or it kills them.

Gagdad Bob said...

In his case it was daily -- and all day long -- pot smoking, just when the pot was becoming much more potent. Now we know what that can do to a brain, but it wasn't known back then.

Gagdad Bob said...

I don't recall if I evert told the story of how he converted our third bedroom into a thriving pot farm by installing a 1000 watt light bulb.

Gagdad Bob said...

I took no part in the farm, but I can imagine how this would have gone over with the police had we been arrested. Which can happen when your electricity bill suddenly quadruples in a month.

Gagdad Bob said...

I would have sounded like one of the arrestees on Cops.

John Venlet said...

I think you do yourself a disservice by referring to infertile eggheads as competitors. What I mean to say is that referring to oneself or others as a competitor indicates, at least to this former seller of intangibles and tangibles, you also are selling something, and neither truth or Christianity can be sold, both have been freely given, nor are those infertile eggheads or others eschewing verticality prospects to be sold.

With that out of the way, I thought today's venture into the ideas shared as words pouring from Gagdad's brain were definitely a step up the vertical ascendancy. Oh, and I don't own any of Voegelin's books, either.

julie said...

I knew some people in college who were like that. It was a tiny school; the unofficial policy was that as long as it was just pot or alcohol, the administration didn't want to know about it because then they'd have to do something.

Gagdad Bob said...

I literally LOLed: For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of Michelle Obama.

Gagdad Bob said...

Michelle is the new black face of white supremacism, only with added testosterone.

Gagdad Bob said...

Theology of, by, and for the eight year olds.

julie said...

For once I have to agree with the Muslim guy in the gif farther down the page.

Cousin Dupree said...

Not all Muslims believe in abortion up to the ninth decade.

Gagdad Bob said...

McCoy Tyner:

I can't forget the shock when I listen for the first time. This sprinting feeling, exhilarating and power. Even though the composition and ideas are well worked out and sublimated, it is very comfortable in the air.

After working with the coltrane master who is a modern music giant, he dispenses the anguish after the death of the master at once, and from now on the music I want to do without being taken by anything. The enthusiasm of going to run, the feeling of blown out is expressed in the work obediently.

I am the only one who strongly feels the image that concentrates the whole spirit toward the light I found after the feeling of openness from a sense of depression or distress from a mentor in a sense I don't think.

I think there are many people who listen to this work when they are in trouble.

I just want many people to touch with a stunning piece where the soul of the creator is felt. I feel numb from the moment I listen to it. I still fall in love enough now. It will be an infallible piece!!

Anonymous said...

Just left a good conversation about “High Conflict Personalities”.

I’d think the trick is to get the political wagon hitched to Christianity, or actual practicing (and proven) Christians, and not to disordered personalities pretending to be Christian for the sake of their own wealth and power. When done the other way around disaster usually results, regardless of party or persuasion.

Van Harvey said...

"In reality, there is the COSMOS and our EXPERIENCE, which is
The “luminous perspective” within the process of reality.
It’s simultaneously in the cosmos but feels like its coming from the outside; it is always between the two terms or poles mentioned above, between immanence and transcendence. ..."

You know that famous enlightenment era engraving, of an inquisitive fellow poking his head outside the sky and seeing the workings of the cosmos? It seems to me that his position should be reversed, so that his body is on the outside, and his head is poking in and exploring the interior.

Happy New Year!

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