Friday, July 28, 2023

From Here to Eternity

Well, that was an annoying post yesterday. Even Oriental Jazzman said I need to Tuck in that Loose Shirt, but that's the price one pays for dabbling in Voegelin. So let's move on and dabble in Girard. Again, we've been reading a compilation called All Desire is a Desire for Being, like anyone could know even that. 

The context of the book's title is similar to a distinction I made way back in the bOOk, between... Frankly, I no longer recall exactly what I said, but clearly, whatever I said will be an embarrassment to me today, so it will take a Brave Man to check, and is Bob brave enough?

Okay, I'll take the bait.

The Buddha was correct in emphasizing that a major source of human suffering emanates from attachment to the phantom-forms known as our desires.

Oh, so now you are presuming to judge my pal the Buddha?

Not exactly, but someone has to. 

The deeper point is this distinction between what I called "appetite," which, according to Oldbob, "arises from the natural self," and what he calls "the desire-mode of being," which "hypnotically roots us in the ephemeral."

As if you have transcended desire! 

Look, I like to think I live pretty lightly on the planet, not because I'm some kind of Gaia-worshipping science-denying jackass, but because the alternative just doesn't pay. It's literally a waste of timelessness, because the latter is all we have, and we only have so much. Infinitude is a finite resource!

Again, it seems man lives -- and always lives -- at the center of those four quadrants, two of which being horizontal, two being vertical. Depending on the mood, I define these in different ways, but let's tuck in the loose shirt and do so once and for all. 

Okay, between (↔) and ( ↕ ). Neither can be collapsed into the other; or, they can, but that's a deformation of Being. Past behind, future ahead, transcendence above, and immanence below. That's where we are, and always are.

None of these terms can ever by grasped by us, because we are in them, and they exist for us as poles of the tension in which we live. All sorts of symbols emerge in this space, some more differentiated than others, but none can be "final" in any static or systematic way. 

It is also important to note that when, say,  ( ↕ ) is collapsed into (↔), it is not as if (↕) is actually eliminated, rather, it just returns in a distorted manner, for example, vis a vis the stupid political religions that try to enclose Being and impose themselves on us. 

Now, one of the things that appears in this space is desire. For what? Anything and everything, nor does anything in this world (you will have noticed) satisfy it, so I suppose Girard is correct in saying that it conceals a desire for Being -- even for being God. 

Which brings us back to Genesis 3, which never actually goes away. Consider the fact that Adam and Eve -- like the restavus -- are situated in those four quadrants. They have a past, and like us, find themselves a-wake in the middle of a dream that is already in progress upon their awakening to it.

Again, man develops symbols to express the situation -- for example, that the Creator must have fashioned them from the dust of the earth, or that He yanked a rib from Adam's chest in order to fashion woman. 

Today we have more differentiated symbols, but to imagine that these have eliminated the mystery of origins is just silly. Future generations will chuckle at our crude expressions, just as we can chuckle at the thought of their "superiority" to us, because again, every finite being is equally distant from Infinitude and Eternity at any time. And if you don't know that, what do you know?

Continuing with Adam and Eve, they are obviously well aware of the vertical tension, hence God's warning about collapsing it. But desire, being what it is, impels them to go ahead and do it anyway, leading to expulsion and exile from the space in which we have our being. And the rest, as they say, is history.

Many stupid actions follow, and I read somewhere that the Bible as a whole comes down to a story of man's rebellion against God. What to do about it?

I don't know what kind of religion Voegelin professed, because he seemed to have a private one that he & the Almighty worked out betwixt 'em. But whatever else he believed about it, he clearly looked upon Christianity as a new and more differentiated symbolic expression of the Tension.

And with that, we'll pause and continue in the next installment.

6 comments:

julie said...

Look, I like to think I live pretty lightly on the planet, not because I'm some kind of Gaia-worshipping science-denying jackass, but because the alternative just doesn't pay.

I knew a guy who worked for some local county office, lived in a trailer park & didn't own a car. Massively conservative, the kind of Christian who carries a New Testament everywhere and (true story) once while being mugged whipped it out of his pocket and told the mugger he needed it more. Mugger left without taking anything. He won an award for being the most socially conscious employee due to his tiny carbon footprint, which he found amusing because he lives that way not to make a leftist political statement but because the alternative doesn't pay.

julie said...

Anything and everything, nor does anything in this world (you will have noticed) satisfy it

Indeed, though it's one of those things most people never properly notice, so they spend all their time relentlessly trying. When you do notice & live accordingly, almost everyone tends to think you're a little weird. Though really, they're not wrong.

Van Harvey said...

"And if you don't know that, what do you know?"

Indeed. And the sophassured smarty pants who declares his superiority to that, identifies the pointlessness of arguing with him about anything at all.

Anonymous said...

We need to be hearing more about these non-material conservatives. We hear far too much about the keeping-up-with-the-jones" turned consumer-livestock variety making a mockery of their dust mote of a material life.

"Mooo. I got a Supra powered by BMW built in China. So anybody know where this steel chute goes down to?"

As if Jesus would approve. I blame our corporate media.

I've been telling them for years now there's real money to be made doing a comedy version of the 700 Club. Gutfield! should've been Getfeeled! Instead of all the high-heeled nubile panel member clones they'd woulda had school-marms and church ladies and the occasional nun armed with a ruler. SLAAAP! Even I'd watch that.

Oriental Rockman said...

I bought it because I suddenly wanted to listen to Rem Live. Results ◎. I own all of the REM albums, and I have many feelings, including questions, but I may have a special feeling that Murmur was a college student when she took the best album of the year. You can't do it.

I feel somewhat smaller compared to other CDs recently. I feel that others are too big, and it's not so much to be stressful. I am happy as a fan just me out unpublished sound source of the band that was dissolved above anything.

There is no future in the Japanese music world if there is no desire to introduce valuable music.

Anonymous said...

Valuable music used to come from the garages of America, back when America Was Great.

Sadly, about the same time that North American arena rock was being replaced by corporate Vegas-style dance revues, Japanese music was getting theirs from their own corporate zombies. And of course when Psy was discovered to actually be Gangnam Style, Korea was declared lost as well. Quite sad all of this. Like something out of World War Z, corporate zombie style.

Myself, I've been in hiding for several years now.

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