Monday, May 04, 2020

Whaddya Know?

I mean really. What do we know? What can we know with absolute certitude?

Hmm. The title of this post smells familiar. Haven't we belabored this point before?

Yes. It's been eight years though, and perhaps in the meantime human nature has undergone a fundamental change, such that there are permanent truths we can know today that we couldn't know then. I'd better skim the post. You needn't bother -- if I find anything worthwhile, I'll drag it up. Be right back...

It seems to me that everything hinges upon whether or not man may know. If we cannot know, then our whole pretentious house of cards collapses, and we are reduced to competing forms of nihilism, or survival of the frivolous. But if we can know, then...

To approach this question is truly to begin at the beginning, because no other questions can be answered until we establish the fact that questions are answerable -- i.e., that man may possess true knowledge of himself and of the world.

Indeed, some thinkers believe we must go even further back, and first establish the existence of the world. For example, this is what Kant does, and concludes that it doesn't exist. That being the case, we cannot know anything about it. The end.

That's an exaggeration, but only an uncharitable one. The point is that Kant placed a dark line between What Is and What We May Know About It, which ultimately results in an unbridgeable chasm between being and knowing.

Right. You can't know a little bit about the unknowable -- even that it's unknowable. I mean, that's a yuge claim. And more than a little presumptuous, for it is saying a great deal to say that ultimate truth consists in not knowing it. Well, you may be lost at sea, but that doesn't prove dry land doesn't exist, does it?

Our dry land consists of self-evident truths. How do we know when we've found one? I would say when denial of it entails absurd or monstrous consequences. It reminds me of something Chesterton said of the "thought that stops thought. That is the only thought that ought to be stopped."

One such thought is that our thoughts do not disclose reality and that truth is therefore inaccessible to human beings: come for the absurdity, stay for the monstrosity. Literally, because once you enter such an epistemological hellworld, there is no rational exit: mandatory stupidity, no exceptions.

Since truth is the conformity of mind to reality, the very notion of truth is poisoned at the root. Thought and Thing go through an ugly divorce, and Thing gets to keep all the real properties to herself, since you Kant take 'em with you. Man becomes closed upon himself, and tenure takes care of the rest.

The whole thing can be boiled down even further, which is why I developed my irritating system of unsaturated pneumaticons. For truly, it all comes down to O and/or Ø, does it not?

Speaking of boiling things down further... I'm tempted to go off on an important tangent that would derail this post. I'll try to be brief. I'm reading an interesting book called America on Trial: A Defense of the Founding, in which the author doesn't just trace the intellectual roots of the founding, but drills all the way down to the very foundation of the cosmos, similar (but different) to what we do around here.

Who else uses "cosmos" and "America" in the same sentence? Well, the founders did so implicitly in justifying our existence on the basis of its conformity with the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God. This makes their efforts "cosmic in scope. It is a drama across time" (Arnn, in Reilly). It is transhistorical before it is historical, because it begins at the end: with universal truths and immutable human nature.

Speaking of beginnings,

"Every metaphysics that is not measured by the mystery of what is, but by the state of positive science at such and such an instant, is false from the beginning" (Maritain)....

Let us stipulate that man may know. But what does this mean, to know? What is happening when we know something? The answer isn't obvious -- at least not anymore -- but for Maritain it is an irreducibly spiritual event through and through. For

"There is a vigorous correspondance between knowledge and immateriality. A being is known to being to the extent that it is immaterial."

And with that we're back to where this post started, in an essay by Josef Pieper called On the Desire for Certainty.

Certainty is good. But is there something better -- or at least prior to it? Yes. Call it trust. Or faith. One way or the other(s), there's no way to avoid this leap. Of course, faith in oneself is wholly unwarranted, but nor is faith in God warranted if we can't trust our faith in his faith in us. It's a spiral, or spiration.

I suppose the bottom line for today is that either we are enclosed in the circle or there is an exit from it. The rest is commentary, more than half of which is absurd. And eventually monstrous.

16 comments:

julie said...

Well, the founders did so implicitly in justifying our existence on the basis of its conformity with the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God. This makes their efforts "cosmic in scope.

And therein lies the big difference between the founding of America and literally any other nation in history (as far as I know). Not that it was conceived as a democratic republic with checks and balances, etc., but that its very form was first informed by what we can know about the nature of God and of Man - and as a result, we can surmise what characterizes a just system of government, and plan accordingly. Notably, the founders were perfectly aware that such a system can still only be as good as the people who take part in it, and so here we find ourselves today...

Anonymous said...

Dr. Godwin wrote "I suppose the bottom line for today is that either we are enclosed in the circle or there is an exit from it."

The working supposition is that we are not enclosed in the circle but rather sprawled or spraddled (is that a word?) within the circle as well as outside of it at all times. There is no need for exit, as we are already partially outside.

I say partially, because the human being has parts that are physically and mentally based on the Earth (I would call Earth within the circle).

At the same time we have an element of ourselves which is, for lack of a better preposition, above the Earth. This part stayed behind, it was not born. It does however watch from its noumenal vantage point in Heaven. This is outside of the circle.

A thin filament runs from this unborn part of ourselves (your Atman in the terminology of the ancients), down through the planes, and hooks up with a part of ourselves which is, for lack of a better preposition, behind the Earth. This we shall call your soul. The soul works locally "behind the veil" as it were. The soul is active on Earth but it goes deep and can submerge into a very deep realm outside of the circle. The soul usually takes up station in your chest near the heart, but it is noumenal and not in 3 D space.

So we see, the human being is tripartite, consisting of the unborn Atman, the Earthly frame, and the soul running the show from deep within. Is almost a spheroid configuration as it were. There are no constraints to total knowledge.

Every human being has potential access to the All-Knowledge; there are barriers but these can be breached, there is no essential blockade between the human being and knowing everything.

So dig in and hop over the barriers me hearties. Start with meditation on your soul.

-Chaka Chaka Chakra Mandeep

Anonymous said...

Special relativity sees this as the spacetime constrained material on the one hand, and the formless and timeless spiritual on the other. One is stuck in time and with mass, the other is everywhere all the time. Metaphysical theorists suggest that maybe humans have both parts. Maybe everything alive has both parts. But in younger years I was intrigued by Uncle Rico's time machine.

I think the reason for Napoleon's shocking failure wasn't that he didn't put in the crystals right, but that he chose to remain stuck in his body. I think you're supposed to get shocked to death, become spiritual, and then you get to see back in time again.

Scientists with all their ballyhooed scientism say that time travel is impossible. But is looking back in time possible, like... viewing the past or future with some kind of TV screen device?

I'm outta weed. Does anybody have some for sale?

Anonymous said...

Hello Anonymous 6:27 PM:

The entire past is on file. This is called the Akashic Record (AKR).

If you want to experience a past moment, you go to the AKR, ask the Librarian for permission, locate your segment, and viola, relive it to your hearts content.

Go ahead, blow 10 years in the stacks at the AKR. When you are done you'll find maybe 10 minutes has gone by in real time.

These segments are from your personal record. Permission is easy to get.

Good luck getting permission to relive the past of others, that is quite restricted.

Getting to the AKR is tricky. You have to bend your mind in certain ways. Someone has to sponsor you for the first visit and after that you can come on your own.

My weed stash is not for sale, as I do not have the State permits for that. However, I would give you certain weed gratis. Perhaps you'd accept my gram of Garlic Cookies. 30% THC but I don't like the smell. Garlic and cookies should never be mixed, and this strain proves it.

Right now, AJ Sour Diesel is providing the vibes.....blaze on brothah

Joan of Argghh! said...

that man may possess true knowledge of himself and of the world.

I'm finding that knowledge of the world and its machinations is a pointless passion. I'm not saying useless, but in the end, we shall inherit a New Heaven and a New Earth. So while we are caretakers of our present dwelling, it is not the full reality. Even God is waiting to reveal the full reality of creation while we go blindly feeling after it. And Nature's God had to veil himself in His early revelations; how much more are we unable to fathom the completeness of Creation? I don't think we can handle all the truth. But we have capacity for meaningful mystery if we will simply do as we are told.

If we do the will of God, we shall understand the will of God, and not before. That's how other mysteries unfold to us: transcendent mysteries revealed almost without cerebral effort. But the desire for knowing must serve the doing. As obedient children, secure in the Father's love, we shall do: lay hands on the sick, cast out devils, pray, rejoice, suffer, serve, and tell-- and that is how we shall know much more than if we sought only the knowing.

Anonymous said...

The problem with faith is that it can be misled. Science has to be proved. With faith it seems that any yahoo can jump up and shout: "My faith is the bestest faith! So ya'll follow me!" Well maybe not any yahoo. Charming ones. Clever ones. Probably those yahoos who seem the most blessed, the most powerful, and with the most enthusiastic followers.

My suggestion has always been to just hang close to Jesus' teachings in the Bible. Of course we have that thing called "interpretation" and all those hundreds of denominations. Mormons doing Mormonizing. Snake handlers. So there's that.

julie said...

Seems it needs to be said once more: By their fruits you shall know them

Not by their looks, their charm, their wit, nor their enthusiasm. Not by their purported intentions. Not by how pleasingly they interpret the Bible, or by the way their cosmic area rug pulls the room together.

What do they do, and as importantly, how are the people, places and things around them affected?

Observe, and follow or not accordingly.

Anonymous said...

Julie stated "By their fruits you shall know them."

I would also take a look at their vegetables and baked goods to get a solid read on them. If you have time heck out a few of the savory dishes or proteins. Just to be sure.

Thank you, this has a been a pubic service message.

Anonymous said...

Tattoos, odd piercings, they say "aks" instead of "ask", they think MSNBC is progressive, they sell supplements guaranteed to help you fight the Deep State, they bow before Darth Billicheck...

We follow the money and at the end of each, there they be.

Anonymous said...

Hi Anonymous:

Funny you should mention "aks" instead of ask. There is a distinct English dialect in the US associated with lower income. It is quite unmistakable.

Those who do not speak this dialect will be put on their guard immediately upon hearing it. The dialect is associated with danger, violence, and crime.

Those who speak the low income dialect will be put on their guard immediately when talking with a person with the standard dialect. Standard dialect is associated with money, authority and punishment.

This is what I have observed. There is some kind of an income divide. Tattoos, piercings, hair and clothing styles, can all serve as markers to delineate the two classes.

Cue the Marx. The people must secure control of the means of production.

-Hot Mess Niece

Anonymous said...

I'd settle for honestly competing means of anything. Marx was brilliant in determining that humans grew up communist. But he went full retard when he forgot that successful communists always casted out their demons, way back in the prehistoric day.

If the philosophy is always "The people" or "corporations are people", then you'll always wind up with just a few people controlling it all which ruins it for almost everybody else (excepting henchmen, enablers, praetorian guards, K-Street Project lobbyists... who usually do okay).

Maybe it should be "The people must secure the means of "Aint no such thing as a free lunch". IOW, every clown's gotta prove their worth, regardless of the loudness of their honky horn.

The Founders proposed competition in every possible way as part of their vision, to try and eliminate the development of concentrations of kingly power. But some historians say that even the almighty Founders instituted a rigged system, to benefit themselves. But I'll let Julie comment on that one.

Petey said...

Yes, your life has been unsuccessful, but you have at least succeeded in identifying something and someone to blame.

Anonymous said...

Petey, if you were talking to anon @5/06/2020 12:21:00 PM, then you were about as far from my point as one can possibly get, excepting blaming the unborn for being aborted.

Petey said...

Petey makes no reference to abortion. He is responding to the libel that some of his dearest friends in the logosphere "instituted a rigged system to benefit themselves." Only a pneumapath and cosmic loser would make such a spiritually diseased remark.

Anonymous said...

No Petey, I am innocent. And so are you. But we're both imperfect and therefore prone to sinning, although we aren't always aware of just what that sinning is. Damned mental defenses.

I speak of those who enjoy being evil. Doctors of Evil. Doctors in league with Satan. A league of Satanic doctors if you will. They're just taking advantage of a good thing, our own ignorance, because we let them.

But I'm on to them now. And so should you be. Our liberal democracy / capitalist system depends on it.

Anonymous said...

There's a Frontline interview with Steve Bannon where he describes in clear detail why Trump was elected. He does seem to like to talk, a lot, but he says the exact same things that Michael Moore and Joe Rogan says.

A big government hater, a working class commie and an MMA comedian seeing the same things.

Commies? Losers? Spiritually diseased?

You decide.

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