Monday, September 02, 2024

Horizontal Discontinuity Within Vertical Continuity?

Yesterday I ran across a quote attributed to Herbert Spencer, that

There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation.

This Principle of Contempt seals one in an ideological ignorance that can be religious or scientistic or anything in between. It is like a principled but closed mind, which is still closed in principle.  

To his credit, Hart doesn't do this. Rather, one of the benefits of the dialogue format is that alternative points of view are given a full and fair hearing. One of the main characters is a reductive materialist, and his ideas are treated with thoughtful patience and respect.

Unlike around here, where we don't hesitate to sling the insultainment. I'm not a very good arguer. More of a teller. A take-it-or-leave-it kind of guy. Except I am also loathe to even express my opinions in mixed company. I hate conflict. I never recommend my ideas, but may offer them if asked.

Who asked for this blog?

No one did. Except for me. It's just my own internal dialogue, or metaphysical diary, made public. We're always looking for the unity beneath appearances, and new information is always coming to light, which needs to be reconciled with the old. Reality is contradictory and argumentative enough. No need to enlist other people with whom to argue.

So your argument is with reality? That explains a lot. 

That's one way of putting it. I think it's why Voegelin's idea of the In Between appeals to me. In one sense it is the Final Answer, except it's a fluid space where the answers keep changing or evolving. 

Paradoxically, there as an Absolute and we can never know it, except implicitly, for it is the ground of our saying or knowing anything at all. This is the luminous but mysterious space where we always find ourselves, i.e., between immanence and transcendence. 

Remember: The quest has no external "object," but is reality itself becoming luminous for its movement from the ineffable, through the Cosmos, to the ineffable

This is your final (non)answer? That's not very satisfying.

Hart suggests something similar -- that in reality there is a "vertical causality" that operates "upon a realm of potential." It is not "a horizontal relation between two physical things, or a physical transfer of energy that has to cross space," rather, 

a rational specification that's transcendent of time and space, an immediate translation of potency into actuality...

Nor is it inconceivable "that consciousness operates at an oblique angle, so to speak, to the texture of spacetime..., or that mind acts like a formal cause impressing itself instantaneously on the 'fabric' of spacetime in a way that would have no temporal, 'horizontal' physical history."

Here again, we are always situated in this vertical space between immanence and transcendence, and we can be either open or closed to the latter influence. 

This is in contrast to "the narrative of absolute mechanical causality" whereby "the reality we know simply arises from lower realities, giving itself form as the accidental result of mindless force..."

But Hart wants to show that there is "no possible universe at all in which mind is a natural consequence of mechanical physical causes," and that "mind is by its nature unable to inhabit an entirely physical frame of reality." Rather, it "must always already be in some sense 'supernatural' in its origin, orientation, and content."

Or as Schuon says, nature is already supernatural. Certainly it is shot through with transcendence, for example, the immaterial mathematical equations that govern it. More generally it is metaphysically transparent, i.e., intelligible to our intelligence:

I mean precisely what I say when I liken the order of nature to the structure of the mind.... I mean that nature, in its essence, literally is thought (Hart).

Which is why we can think about it: "if mind is real, it can be only because all things have their origin and subsistence in living mind; hence, ultimately, it is matter that must be reducible to an original mental reality."

I'd go so far as to say that material reality is merely a kind of phase, so to speak, of mind... a concrete state or crystallization... the way ice is a phase and state and crystallization of water.

Where have we heard this before? In Chapter 3 of Philosophy of Science in the Light of the Perennial Wisdom, called The Degrees and Modes of Reality: there are "multiple states of being, each corresponding to the objects of a degree of man's faculty of knowledge," from matter on up to the Principial Realm of the Divine Mind. 

Somedivide and sumthelot but the tally turns round the same balifuson. --Joyce

In other words, the whole ball of confusion can be divided and sub-divided in many ways, but we are the ones who do the dividing, for example, between mind and matter:

Some, considering the essential identity of Creation with the Principle, may describe total reality as being one indivisible unity. Some may divide it up into two degrees: the Divine Order, and that of all that is created, namely, Creation. At the other end of the spectrum, some... have proposed forty states.

That's too many. Let's keep it simple. Bina and Ziarani propose five, beginning with "the material world that is in principle knowable to our senses." Now, to some -- for example, Hart's voice of materialism -- this is all there is. But this is again Schopenhauer's philosophy of the subject who forgets to take account of himself. It explains everything but the explainer.

One character of Hart's dialogue doesn't shy away from the insultainment, seeing "the modern mechanistic view of things as a kind of psychological disorder," even a psychosis or at least neurosis that results in "a tragic estrangement from reality." In short,

The modern world created a new concept of matter, one into which the seemingly self-evident phenomena of mind could not be fitted.

Putting mind back into the model "became a task that was simultaneously necessary and impossible. Hence the psychosis." 

And here we are. Nevertheless, our "first-person awareness is a primary datum, the ground of all knowledge, and it simply defies physicalist logic." 

Lots of arguing back and forth, but the problem is how to get from a world of "pure exteriority" or "pure quantitative existence" to one of interiority and "subjective qualitative experience." How can it be that

at some point there was nothing but ubiquitous objectivity and then, an instant later, there was local subjectivity.... Somewhere the threshold was crossed. But how?

"How did that all that mindless quantity suddenly add up to a perceiving mind?" How can matter be "abruptly and fantastically inverted into the very opposite of everything modern orthodoxy tells us matter is?" How to account for the "sudden qualitative transition from pure exteriority to an unprecedented inwardness?"

I know how I did it. It's why the chapters of my book begin and end in mid-sentence, to suggest the local discontinuity within a nonlocal (or vertical) continuity that operates from the top-down, or via formal and final causality. 

Looked at this way, the inexplicable transition described by Hart -- from exteriority to interiority, quantity to quality, existence to experience, matter to mind, objects to subjects, etc. -- suddenly becomes un-inexplicable. 

Not to say the mystery is solved. Only that we have a sufficient reason for the mysterious space in which we live, i.e., between immanence and transcendence, but ordered to the latter in a dynamic and open communion.

3 comments:

julie said...

Not to say the mystery is solved. Only that we have a sufficient reason for the mysterious space in which we live, i.e., between immanence and transcendence, but ordered to the latter in a dynamic and open communion.

I'm reminded of how, outside a narrow band of scale, from the largest bodies in the cosmos to the smallest atomic particles, existence is essentially nothing but spheres moving in circles at different rates of speed. It is only at the level of life where something truly different and amazing is happening.

It also reminds of new life growing, either in the egg or in the womb, undifferentiated matter self-assembling into something that can move and perceive and think on its own. Miraculous.

Open Trench said...

Good evening, Dr. Godwin, Julie, Technully (please comment soon, you are very interesting), and all beloved souls reading here.

From the post: ""How did that all that mindless quantity suddenly add up to a perceiving mind?"

Now, it was decided long ago that all was made out of consciousness. The analogy went, said the rishis, in matter consciousness was frozen and solid, in energy consciousness was a liquid, and in mind consciousness was a gas.

This was later expanded upon, and it was decided mind was an entire world. Not a separate planet mind you, but a plane, realm, or place, occupying a different segment of space. They called it "sidereal space," or the space that is in the same place not occupying the same volume.

The mind or mental world had beings, landscapes, an atmosphere, etc, all made of pure thought. In a way in resembles the Kantian pronouncement. The beings there quite literally manifest their world.

There is a way to bring down the barriers between the matter and energy world and the mind world. Apparently if matter is configured in a certain complex way, it bursts the wall and mind comes flooding in. The lights come on, and matter now has a mind. That's how it happens, said the wise ones.

What does the panel think? Poppycock?

Open Trench said...

My comment, part the second:

Woman troubles. I am caught between immanence and transcendence in a very peculiar way.

Sex outside of marriage is bad and should not be done. This I know because the bible tells me so. A reader can find this advisory sprinkled throughout the NT. Sexual immorality is death. Jesus directly told the forgiven woman "go and sin no more," meaning, the act of adultery which got her in hot water and threatened her life, was a sin.

With this in mind, a merry widow and this Trench decided to stop sinning, after we had fallen to temptation (and fallen and fallen and fallen), lest we be damned. Feeling virtuous, we met, stayed out of the bed, had lunch, bible study, saying to each other, congratulations, we have mended our ways.

A a time shortly after this decision, when the good widow did not know I was observing her lovely face, I saw a stricken, grieving expression on those fine features. An old expression: "why the long face?" And indeed her face appeared somehow stretched and elongated. My spider senses picked up grief and distress in her life energies. A gray, smudgy cloud was gathering around her in sidereal space.

Trench felt like a lost child, truly miserable, barred form the paradise of the widow's intimacies. My inner guidance system kicked in. I can smell the adversary, and I was smelling him now. What was he up to?

When I came to gaze upon the widow directly, into her heart-melting eyes, she instantly put on a happy face. But I had seen enough. I took the widow by the hand and led her to the bedroom, where she neither said nor did anything to resist, and we sinned again, tenderly. And the negativity was dispelled.

In confusion we discussed our predicament. We put the question to Jesus directly. Why did obeying the tenets of the bible feel wrong? Why did the commission of the sin seem a lesser evil than abstaining form the act?

Was the adversary playing a duplicitous game? Take two sinners, take away their sin, and watch them fall into despair and gloom, where he can a firmer grip on them with those scaly hands?

When the widow and I command get behind me Satan, we do so with our arms around each other, in the armor of our love. Are we badly off course?

Panel please weight in? Technully what would AI say? Help us, help us we ask of you.

With great trepidation we beseech you, Trench and Trenchette.

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