Wednesday, December 21, 2022

Concrete Principle and Abstract Entailments

Lonergan characterizes metaphysics as 

the department of human knowledge that underlies, penetrates, transforms and unifies all other departments.
In short, it involves the integration of “the totality of the objects of knowing” with “the totality of knowing”; ultimately, the diversity of objects is reconciled in the one Subject, irrespective of whether or not we are consciously aware of it, for every act of knowing is a participation in this Principle. Change my mind. On second thought, don't bother:
The foundation of metaphysical certitude is the coincidence between truth and our being; a coincidence that no ratiocination could invalidate (Schuon). 
We’ve written before of this primordial distinction of Subject <--> Object, and of how it must be the first meta-cosmic bifurcation. Different religions handle this bifurcation in different ways, but we may have to put them all together in order to gain a more comprehensive understanding. 

This is because Big Box religion tends to operate on a “need to know” basis, with this need being different, or at least a different aspect of the One Thing Needful being emphasized. 

For example, in Christianity it is salvation, but this hardly excludes growth in charity or all-around saintliness. Judaism emphasizes holiness, freedom (AKA exodus), and moral actions, while Vedanta hammers home the distinction between reality and appearances.

Those are simplifications, and one could go on, but this question of the One Thing Needful is rather large. Come to think of it, it’s got to be the largest thing conceivable, since, you might say, it is the very actualization of God in man, and nothing is bigger than God.

Think about the Incarnation, both as concrete fact and in terms of its many entailments. Of note, these entailments proceed both “up” and “down,” so to speak. For example, let’s say the Absolute Principle assumes human nature. So what? What's it to me?

Obviously a lot, only it’s not necessarily self-evident, hence the role of a teaching institution to draw out the implications, which are more or less endless. 

At the same time, proceeding upward, what does the bare fact of the Incarnation say about God? In other words, supposing the Incarnation occurs, it must be possible for it to occur, and by virtue of what principle?  

Long post short, I want to say Trinity. As we know, this word is nowhere found in scripture, and yet, it is the simplest way of talking about the up & down entailments of the Incarnation, if you’re following me. For what else can it imply when Christ says something like, for example, I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you? Moreover, he frames this not in terms of belief but knowledge.

What kind of strange knowledge is this, and how is it possible, because it doesn’t seem to follow Aristotelian logic or the usual scientific categories. Anything is a thing precisely insofar is it is this thing and not that thing. But here Jesus implies a world in which it is possible for one thing to be in another while not losing itself. Indeed, this is the ultimate context in which one finds oneself.

Slept late. To be continued... 

14 comments:

John Venlet said...

The Incarnation, when one sits and ponders on it, IS most amazing. I know for myself, when I sit and ponder on it, sometimes with a bourbon and a cigar in hand, I think, what would He think about sitting there with me in human form having a bourbon and a cigar, because as a human, He could've sat there and enjoyed a bourbon and a cigar. As for just what is this strange knowledge you not, I cannot state with any certainty, but I do note that from time to time when a thought strikes one so hard it's like getting whacked in the back of your head with its simplicity of factualness, and your awareness of this, well, strange knowledge in action, I guess.

Gagdad Bob said...

Yes, you have to tweak your subjectivity in order to get out of the habitual mode and appreciate the cosmic weirdness of it all, and there's no doubt that the judicious use of adult beverages can facilitate this. The other day I ran into an aphorism I'd never seen before: "Any civilization flourishes in the hands of an astonished man."

So if you're not astonished, you're doing it wrong.

John Venlet said...

I like that aphorism, and it could be applied to Paul, in a sense, and his work amongst the Gentiles in his day.

Paul said...

You know that feeling when you get knocked off your horse? I feel like that all the time.

julie said...

What kind of strange knowledge is this, and how is it possible, because it doesn’t seem to follow Aristotelian logic or the usual scientific categories. Anything is a thing precisely insofar is it is this thing and not that thing. But here Jesus implies a world in which it is possible for one thing to be in another while not losing itself. Indeed, this is the ultimate context in which one finds oneself.

We were learning about Iguazu Falls today. A massive river, and how the width spans over a mile with the stream being broken up into thousands of different pathways as the water plunges down from Brazil to Argentina. One river, broken up into as many parts as there are water molecules and yet each being part of the whole, eventually to reform into one farther downstream.

Anonymous said...

The doctor interviewed on the radio this morning about insulin resistance a topic that interested me could have promoted himself as having found the cure to death by natural causes, but as medics know there's always something else and everybody dies. Is there any plan B for the global warming if God forbid and He's not responsible for it should the greenhouse gases problem be fixed and there's something else.

Gagdad Bob said...

Speaking of nonsense, here's a review of a box set covering Dylan's explicitly Christian period:

In the limited set list of angry waves, Gospelyers, I came to Dylan, which fascinates me. Dylan's face, there is a remnant of the debut time (laughs)

Whatever the reason is, other than self-manifestation desire, “Listen to me! Listen to everyone!!” I wonder if a song with a posture should be bad.

Dylan of this time in real time in myself was over. I remember talking about Dylan of those days. I can't realize that it's being alive rather than living, but I can see the feeling of a person who seeks religion, that is human wisdom that goes beyond human wisdom.

Dylan at this time was out of alcohol, so the singing voice was the best in Dylan's career. He throws words into the sky with twitching.

julie said...

Someone needs to tweak their AI. Or their meds, either way.

Re. the Dylan review, I have to assume by the penultimate sentence that he enjoyed the album, but otherwise it would be impossible to tell.

Gagdad Bob said...

Bob Dylan's tip of the day: never watch anything foul-smelling or evil.

John Venlet said...

Interesting little Dylan article. I prefer watching Ed Sullivan reruns, though the old shows Dylan mentions aren't bad, as for evil and foul smelling shows, I assume Dylan eschews the Disney channel, then.

Anonymous said...

When it comes to music I have great faith in the Pater Noster with it's invocation 'And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil' as a rave party in a disused church which is a thing now in the UK is not the type of worship I'd like to be drawn into.

Gagdad Bob said...

Speaking of foul-smelling, my son was watching Gutsty (the Hillary Clinton show) because Ben Shapiro lost a bet and had to watch it, so he wanted to see just how bad it was. Not only does it exceed expectations, it makes The View look edifying.

julie said...

She has her own show? I had no idea. I guess there must still be women who are on team Hillary, but you'd think the potential audience would be vanishingly small.

julie said...

Re. the bot commenter, resources must be getting tight at the shill farm. At least the previous anon seemed recognizably human.

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