Sunday, December 11, 2022

A Couple of Soph-Centered Cosmonauts

Back now to Understanding and Being. Toward the end of Lecture 7 Lonergan says something that reminds me of what was mentioned in the previous post about light that has been traveling for billions of years hitting a bullseye on the retina. What perfect aim!  

Well, truth is light, and it too occasionally hits its target. This one hit me, and it’s entirely possible that it missed everyone else. Or, like a message in a bottle, it just happened to wash up on my driveway. 

It’s in the context of a discussion of the nature of subjects and objects, and the problem of objectivity. It also goes to the old philosophical question of where we begin, with the objects of knowledge or the intellect that knows them? For it seems we’re always doing both:
The point is to complete the circle. One way to complete the circle is to begin from knowing (Lonergan).
Alternatively, one can begin with a metaphysics of the knower, but 
One will be completing the same circle, except that one will be starting from a different point.  
In short, one can begin in the traditional way, with what is external and prior to us — It’s not our fault, it was this way we got here! Besides, it's the woman's fault.

Or, we can begin with what is quite literally first for us -- the knowing subject -- even though it arrives on the cosmic scene long after the objects it potentially knows. Just don’t radically separate the two and create a vicious dualism. Keep the circle spinning:
As long as one completes the circle, the same thing will be said, but it will be said at different points along the line.
And as we’ve said many times, although we can close this or that epistemological circle, any such circle must be situated in the infinitely larger open circle -- AKA spiral -- of ontology.  

In a way, you could say this is Gödels whole point, but really, it goes back to Thomas: the rational intellect is not confined to mere reason, but always transcends it.

Which goes to the distinction between what Hayek calls evolutionary (or critical) rationalism, as opposed to the naive constructivist kind that would enclose us in our own manmode prison. Only the former maintains the complementarity between the proper limits and virtual limitlessness of the human mind. So,
In principle, it makes no difference where one chooses to start. What is important is going around the circle….
You first do the circle in a small way, and then you do it in a bigger way. First you get the general idea of the whole way around one level, then you go the whole way around on a higher level. The more significant the developments are, the higher up you move.
This pretty much reflects the whole One Cosmos vision, which I thought was more or less limited to a single cosmonaut, i.e., me. Turns out there are no fewer than two: 

"Insofar as there is any progress,” says Lonergan,
then these circles keep expanding. They move up a pole, as it were, with smaller circles at the bottom and bigger circles at the top.
This is another important point, in that there is an implicit vertical axis around which the circles orbit. But also, whole systems of thought can become detached from the axis and spin off into a void of darkness and tenure. Alternatively, a tiny circle can close upon itself, as in atheistic materialism.   

I will try to keep posts under 1,000 words. I know you have more interesting things to do, although I can’t imagine what they might be.

5 comments:

julie said...

I know you have more interesting things to do, although I can’t imagine what they might be.

Not always interesting, but usually necessary.

This post meshes pretty well with today's Henderson newsletter

Gagdad Bob said...

"Timi Yuro" sounds vaguely Japanese, but she was an Italian-American singer with an inimitable style:

It's a voice you won't forget once you hear it, and the shaggy voice that is almost unknown in Japan but seems to be torn apart when you shout is amazing! The 11th song gave me goose bumps, this is my love at first sight (?) When I first heard the song I played, I was so fascinated by its power that I thought it was a high-pitched black man.

julie said...

Thank goodness for the internet, otherwise I would have to just imagine what this person could possibly sound like. Assuming Youtube is telling the truth, she certainly doesn't look like a high-pitched black man. Then again, these days you never know.

Although listening, I get the comparison. Not as crazy as it sounds. The comparison, that is; Timi sounds great.

Gagdad Bob said...

Another interesting songstress was Judy Henske:

Judy's singing voice is like a female lion courting her. After all, the power of shouting and fumbling is different. Still, there's no vulgarity at all. A remastering of the Electra label album in the early 1960s, recording when she was most greasy.

If you think that there are cool ballads and nursery rhymes that are sung in bars at the end of the American stage, there is also a burst of laughter with terms prohibited from broadcasting.

In Andrew Vax's hardboiled novel (Hayakawa Bunko), the only thing that the main character Burke, who is the paedophile punisher, loves to listen to was a song by Judy Henske. When I wrote fan letters before, they answered politely.

Van Harvey said...

Music truly is the universal language, no?

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