Tuesday, July 26, 2022

There's Something About Mary, and it's Nothing

There's definitely something ambiguous about Mary's role in the economy of salvation, surrounded on all sides by heterodoxy. 

Protestants, for example, often accuse Catholics of worshipping her. Catholics, for their part, affirm that she is indeed blessed among women, first among saints, Mother of the Church, and Queen of Heaven, for which reason they claim to venerate the Theotokos but draw a line in the sand before worshiping her. 

As a witch once put it, at this point what difference does it make?  

Well, there's an inevitable overlap between Christology and Mariology: exactly who are they, and why? Addressing questions with regard to One has necessary implications for the (M)other, and early church councils dealt with both; for example, if Jesus was more of a ghost than a man, then he didn't come into the world in the usual way. 

If we pull back to gain a larger perspective, 

The contrast between the old creation, whose head is Adam, and the new creation, whose head is Jesus, led to many connections and comparisons between Mary and Eve, claiming that, as it was Eve who brought Adam to the tree, it was Mary who brought Jesus into the world, and eventually to the tree on Calvary (Justo Gonzalez).

I think one reason Mary's role may be ambiguous is because it is unique; in other words, if something is unique, then it doesn't fall into any intelligible form or category: it is not the example of a higher principle, but is its own principle, so to speak. 

Because of this apparent uniqueness, explanations of her role can have an ad hoc quality -- for example, reading back her immaculate conception, which is said to be a consequence of the Incarnation, even though it it is temporally prior to it.

But if we pull back even further for the deepest and widest possible perspective, then I think we see that Mary must be ambiguous because she represents something that is in its very nature ambiguous. Moreover, any attempt to render the principle less ambiguous does violence to the principle hersoph.  

This is all just a hunch on my part. In any event, I've dug myself a hole. Let's see if I can dig my way out.

Putting on my old psychologist's hat, let's stipulate that on the basis of psychology alone, there can be no category more primordial than Mother. 

I don't want to get sidetracked into a pedantic discourse on attachment theory and developmental psychology, but one can look at development as a kind of gradual emergence and crystallization of the ego out of a prior union with the deep and formless infinite ocean of the primordial mother. Remama? 

This is the reason why D.W. Winnicott remarked that "there is no such thing as an infant," because at first there is only the mother-infant dyad out of which the baby's self-awareness will gradually emerge. But never completely, for that oceanic field of unconscious energy will haunt -- or bless -- us forever.  

Now, what if that infinite field is the prior reality, and the Great Mother is simply the formless-form it takes for us? 

In fact, there was a famous book on the subject by the Jungian Erich Neumann, called The Great Mother: An Analysis of the Archetype. I haven't read it in over 30 years, but the official description says Neumann

shows how the feminine has been represented as goddess, monster, gate, pillar, tree, moon, sun, vessel, and every animal from snakes to birds. Neumann discerns a universal experience of the maternal as both nurturing and fearsome, an experience rooted in the dialectical relation of growing consciousness, symbolized by the child, to the unconscious and the unknown, symbolized by the Great Mother.

That sounds about right, except that Jung and his acolytes were stuck on the level of myth rather than pure metaphysics, and what if the myths are but exemplars of an even deeper perspective? 

In other words, a Jungian would reduce Mary to an instance of a mythological archetype, but what if she's the instantiation of something higher, not something lower?

Let's get back to the essay we were discussing yesterday, The Divine Feminine, by Patrick Laude. In it he specifies why She should be ambiguous by nature, for whereas the masculine is associated with the formal dimension -- e.g., Logos, law, institutions, Wait Until Your Father Gets Home, etc., -- the feminine "pertains to the informal, or rather supra-formal, realm" (emphasis mine). Thus,

the Feminine refers, at its highest level, to the Essence that transcends all relativities.... [It is] an inward space of freedom vis-a-vis the theological crystallization of a tradition. Issuing forth from this supra-formal and feminine dimension of the Logos, every masculine manifestation of this principle tends to embody the very form of the tradition that the Logos brings into the world.

Hmm. I'm stroking my chin. If this is true, or something like truth, it implies that our egoic emergence from the primordial realm of the Great Mother is something like God's own emanation or crystallization or something from a realm that is Beyond-Being. And this realm can never be mansplained: no man can see it and live.  

As I said at the top, we are surrounded by heterodoxy. Is there a way to make the Christian shoe fit this metaphysical princess? Or is it enough to say that Mary is this princess, and be done with it?

It seems that there is something about Mary, and that this something is nothing, in the apophatic sense of the term. 

Now, just what is that supposed to mean? We'll say more in the next post, but recall what was said yesterday about the Tao being a kind of plenitude of nothing that gives birth to everything -- which sure reminds me of Eckhart's once-upin-a-timeless dream:

I once had a dream. I dreamt that I, even though a man, was pregnant, pregnant and full with Nothingness like a woman who is with child. And that out of this Nothingness God was born.

In a more lucid dream, he once claimed that

From all eternity God lies on a maternity bed giving birth. The essence of God is birthing

Well, we've only managed to dig a deep hole in these even deeper waters. Will we find our way out before drowning in nonsense? Stay tuned!

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Speaking of worship, I always liked Mary. The Donald not so much.

My childhood neighbor had two Mary shrines halfway down their backyard. They served as our goal line markers for backyard football, mostly played in my own muddy backyard, sometimes theirs. They were tolerant neighbors. We always did a Touchdown Jesus! salute whenever we made a dramatic score, paying homage to the real one seen at the Notre Dame campus not too far from us.

For years I thought that all a Hail Mary was good for, was to better appreciate scores worthy of a Touchdown Jesus celebration. Sadly, my family moved far away from that idyllic place to a much-lesser kid-friendly one. But our new church did have a stained-glass mosaic of Jesus with arms raised, hands held together as if in prayer. I called that one “Safety Jesus”.

I guess my point is that I’d rather worship Mary than Donald. Mary has been tried and proven for centuries, a safe bet. Not to mention she's mentioned in the Bible a lot. I always saw the Donald as much more of a risk. But maybe we need a primer on explaining all this Donald worship we still see going on, after all he’s done.

johnson j said...

"The contrast between the old creation, whose head is Adam, and the new creation, whose head is Jesus,"

This very notion of Jesus as new Adams implies he had to create his own body not be born. This is all that can be meant by Paul in saying "the first Adam was made a living soul but the last Adam is a lifegiving spirit." I.e. the first Adam was given life by another but the last Adam is Jesus as lifegiving spirit giving life to his own body which he created similar to how he created Adam. Jesus also denies he has a mother various times i the gospels. Docetism is a lie, never existed. The Marcio ites and Apelleans and such groups did NOT teach that Jesus was a mere ghost but that he created his own body. Tertullian admits it briefly in his 5 books against marcion, only to return back to lying again. Because the catholucs had to lie to wstablish their kother goddess.

John Venlet said...

I think the most that can be ascertained about Mary, adhering to Scripture, the Mother of Jesus Christ, is that she is "highly favored," or "blessed among women." While this is no little thing, this is about all that we can accurately, truthfully, state. Mary is definitely not nothing. And while Protestants may take umbrage in regards to the high adoration of Mary as exemplified in the Catholic tradition, the most that Protestants can do is object to the this high adoration. If Protestants claim any further dire results of high adoration of Mary by Catholics I would recommend they check their eye for a board.

In regards to the Tao, in general, it would be foolish to deny that tenets of the Tao contain kernels of wisdom, but from these kernels the bread of life cannot be made.

julie said...

Yeesh, those limits are showing again.

In other words, a Jungian would reduce Mary to an instance of a mythological archetype, but what if she's the instantiation of something higher, not something lower?

I think she can't not be. Not to derail the conversation, but another example of something much lower just declared herself (and her administration) to be truth. No way that ends well.

Well, we've only managed to dig a deep hole in these even deeper waters. Will we find our way out before drowning in nonsense?

Cosmic rebirth seems to be the usual way back out...

Gagdad Bob said...

There's an interesting book called Christ the Eternal Tao, that I should consult on our subject...

Gagdad Bob said...

Here's a passage from Christ the Eternal Tao:

The Primal Mind-Essence is a Womb.
The Primal Mind-Essence is a Father.
Out of this Womb of the Mind,
The Word was begotten, outside time.

Something mysteriously formed,
Born before heaven and earth,
Tranquil, boundless,
Dependent on nothing and changing not.

Gagdad Bob said...

There is no name whereby the Primal Essence can be named,
Neither in this age nor the age to come.
We call Him Essence.
For He is a sea of Essence,
Indeterminate and without bounds.

Gagdad Bob said...

Before the Word came into the world
The sages sought Him out in every place.
They saw Him not, but sensed his presence everywhere.

Not having seen Him, but only His traces,
The sages could only speak in dim verses and riddles.

Gagdad Bob said...

And in a still, small voice She gave voice to the whole earth.
She answered for all those beings and created forms who could not speak;
She answered for all the people who could not hear.
And to the question of the Uncreated Mind,
She answered: Yes,
I will receive You.
Be it unto me according to Your Word....
He became a tiny child within Her, the Mystic Mother.

julie said...

Lovely.

And some people think women have no agency. At risk of asking a stupid question, is there a greater power than the ability to freely say "yes" to the will of God?

Gagdad Bob said...

And the soul is always feminine in relation to God.

julie said...

Normally, I would say it is unkind to make fun of the mentally challenged, but this is just too much to pass up. Apparently, Kamala is also now a biologist:

“Good afternoon. I want to welcome these leaders for coming in to have this very important discussion about some of the most pressing issues of our time. I am Kamala Harris. My pronouns are “she” and “her.” I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.”

Lisa Simpson wore it better.

julie said...

Also, she's speaking on behalf of those poor people who have been impacted by having their constitutional rights taken away. No, she didn't suddenly see the benefit of an armed society, she's concerned that there's no longer a federally recognized right to murder unborn children.

The anti-mother speaks.

Gagdad Bob said...

Great moments in political oratory. Move over, Churchill.

Gagdad Bob said...

Maybe the best since "The president ate his breakfast and lunch, fully. He actually showed me his plate."

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