Tuesday, June 14, 2022

Stuck in the Middle No More

It would appear that man was and is in something of an inescapable jam prior to the Incarnation. Let's say the A.I. people are correct that the human mind functions like a computer. Well, a computer must be programmed, and the program is a formal system. In a book called Brain, Mind and Computers, Jaki writes that

Gödel's theorem amounts in fact to stating a basic, insurmountable difference between the abilities of the human mind and of formal systems.... [A] machine, being a formal system, can never produce at least one truth, which the mind can do without relying on other minds....

 Moreover,

since machines are of necessity built of physical or chemical components, it also follows that the human mind cannot be fully explained in terms of physics or chemistry. 

In another book (Means to Message), Jaki observes that "As all artifacts, computers too are a sum of atoms." But 

If one's mental processes are equivalent to the actions of atoms, one can have no reason to assume that one's beliefs are true. Those beliefs may be sound chemically, but not intellectually.

As such, it would have made no difference to us if God had incarnated as an atom, chemical, book, or computer program. Rather, in order to span all levels of creation, he had to do so as a person.

This is not to say we can accomplish nothing from our end. Rather, we can and do transcend ourselves, but only so far. For example, the ancient Greeks arrived at the 

conception of the human as common boundary between animal and divine existence, the middle of the cosmos, neither raising himself in hubris to a superhuman existence, nor debasing his life in an attitude of cynicism, but revolving in the vital spheres to which man is bound by natural law (Werner Jaeger, in Clarke).

In other words, stay in your lane: you're not an animal, and you're certainly not God! The human lane rises above the animal lane, but it nevertheless ends in a cosmic nul de slack.  

For the early Fathers, this Greek idea of "the human person as frontier being, living on the edge of time and eternity, matter and spirit, was assimilated easily enough into Christian thought." Only now the road leads all the way up, plus it's a two-way street. Ontologically speaking, how convenient is that!  

This is a totally new development and novel principle, for not only is man the microcosm, but he is now, as it were, the micro-metacosm: not just a little cosmos but a participant in the living source of the cosmos. This source is revealed to us as metacosmic trinitarian personhood, for lack of a less cumbersome term, and it encompasses everything from the first Adam right down to the last atom. 

Among other pleasant consequences, there is a

positive valuation given to the human body and to the whole material world along with it.... Now the body is no longer something to be looked down upon, to be escaped from and left behind as soon as possible (ibid.).

Compare this attitude to the the preeminent neoplatonist, Plotinus. His crony, Porphyry, wrote that he "seemed ashamed of being in the body." Perhaps today we would say he had something similar to Gender Dysphoria, except he didn't want to just transition to a difference sex, but ascend out of the body altogether (indeed, transexuals probably suffer from something similar, only they conflate it with sex). 

But for the Christian,

the human person now becomes a microcosm in a new and richer sense than in the Platonic tradition: it incorporates into itself all the levels of the universe and all its values, stretching from the lowest levels of the material universe all the way up to the highest spiritual level, the divine itself....

All come together in a new unity in a single type of being, the human person who now becomes the center or middle point, the "middle being," of the universe in a new, enhanced sense.

Not just the soul, as in neoplatonism, "but as the whole human person, body and soul together." 

To be continued...

31 comments:

julie said...

All come together in a new unity in a single type of being, the human person who now becomes the center or middle point, the "middle being," of the universe in a new, enhanced sense.

This touches on why it is so essential that Christ was born, and didn't simply materialize fully-formed.

Gagdad Bob said...

Body-blood-soul-and-divinity.

Gagdad Bob said...

It will change your mind about reparations. For white people.

Gagdad Bob said...

Another really good -- and important -- book: Fossil Future: Why Global Human Flourishing Requires More Oil, Coal, and Natural Gas -- Not Less.

Anonymous said...

I must confess to having some sympathy for Plotinus. It’s still not clear to me how the human body (not its form but its material physicality) is spiritually redeemable. Our bodies are dying from the moment we’re conceived and are subject to truly terrible afflictions, to the point that it feels like we’re simply inhabiting a rotting prison. Look at the countless, painful ailments that strike our bodies, including those of children, from which there is often no respite, leading to a wretchedly debilitating existence for millions of poor souls. How, exactly, does one divinize something as frail, unpredictable, vulnerable and impermanent as our flesh?

I’m not saying this as an atheist but as someone who thinks that the Platonists may have been right in thinking of the body as a kind of ‘tomb’. One can certainly marvel at its function and complexity but what exactly is its spiritual significance?

“We begin in the madness of carnal desire and the transport of voluptuousness; we end in the dissolution of all our parts and the musty stench of corpses.” Arthur Schopenhauer

Anonymous said...

Speaking of non-religious philosophers who’re big into playing climate scientists, would a climate scientist playing a religious philosopher be seen as offensive around here?

No? Okie dokie.

When I was little I would pray to Jesus every night for him to get me a new bike. Then I learned in Sunday school that that’s not how it works. So I stole one instead and asked him for forgiveness.

Here’s another one. What do a Christmas tree and a priest have in common? Their balls are just for decoration.

So Jesus and his disciples walk into a restaurant. Jesus says to the hostess: "A table for 26, please." The hostess says, "I only see 13. Are more coming?" To which Jesus replies: “No, we’re all going to sit on the same side.” (*rimshot*)

Who’s still with me?

Nicolás said...

Christianity would scandalize the Christian if it stopped scandalizing the world.

Anonymous said...

Nicolás, I’m not sure what that one even means, but I think it has to do with idea that we all sin. I like the idea that we all sin. Because it explains a lot. But I like the idea of scandalizing sinners even more.

And so I‘ve been experimenting with my own children.

I have two, one good and the other evil. I’ve tried everything with the evil kid and nothing works. So instead, I’ve been punishing the good kid every time the bad one does something wrong. The idea was to toughen him up for a world full of incorrigibly evil children. But now I’ve got two kids tearing up the place.

Nicolás said...

What I say here will seem trivial to whoever ignores everything to which I allude.

Anonymous said...

And when the good one wound up bashing the bad one with his bible, out of sheer frustration, the bad one ran and got his crucifix, the one he'd fashioned into a shank.

Nicolás said...

Those of us who lack talent should have the vanity to be silent.

Anonymous said...

Indeed. Speaking of talentless hacks...

So far, your point seems to be that if one gives themselves up to a higher power, then one too, will come to trust people claiming to be experts in fields in which they have no credentials, even if that “expert” doesn’t believe in any higher power. Confusing.

I got the part where fossil fuels create great material benefit the very first time my father drove me to buy a hot wheels racetrack for my birthday. No kid wants to play with lincoln logs which they themselves have to make by hand.

It was only much later, that I realized there’s a negative side to mass consumption of fossil fuels. Sure, with all my backyard forest ferns and hemlocks and rhodies dead (has already happened) I can get a lot more hot wheels track laid.

But what about all the other problems? And why listen to some atheist who isn’t even a real expert?

Nicolás said...

The ridiculousness of a government never makes an impression on anyone but a powerless minority.

Anonymous said...

Well, methinks the ridiculousness of a government is going to be well noted by the powerful as well, so the more corrupt amongst them can take fullest advantage. The trick is to not hire the ridiculous, or the corrupt.

I think of the skyrocketed cost of insulin. Explain that one in our "free capitalism". I was sold that insulin costs would go by way of plasma TVs.

I'd rather my government be held to solving problems, and then solving the problems which come from their solutions, sometimes ridiculous. Too ridiculous and we fire them. Better than letting my government, which I'm paying for, get so ridiculous that outright corruption results creating a never-ending cycle of ridiculous problems (which strangely, other competing nations don't have to deal with).

So I wonder how Alex Epstein deals with this.

Nicolás said...

No one in politics can foresee the consequences either of what he destroys or of what he constructs.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure if any American Founder was thinking that way. Otherwise we'd be an anarchy.

The strangest part, is that I believe in competition, much as the founders laid things out. Who doesn't believe in loyal devils advocates when trying to group-solve some difficult problem? Who doesn't believe that when a competing nation has success, why we shouldn't at least consider the same, if not better?

Apparently, modern conservatives don't. I wish to learn more about the reasoning behind this iron clad resolve.

Nicolás said...

The conservatism of each era is the counterweight to the stupidity of the day.

Gagdad Bob said...

It is not when it fails to meet its promises, but does what it promises to do, that the true failure of the left is obvious.

Lookin' at you, Brandon

Anonymous said...

How about some examples, Bob?

Cousin Dupree said...

Brandon's last supporter located!

Anonymous said...

Actually, Biden will get the same blame game as Dubya did. The economy does what it does when it overheats (inflation and rampant corporate profiteering, instead of competing business opportunities emerging as one would expect in such an economy).

Do you know what Biden promised, then did, which makes the left's failure obvious?

Also Dupree, as you once advised, I Googled Venezuela. Better late than never, but I'd be willing to share my findings.

Brandon said...

1. End drilling for oil and gas so as to enable a transition to energy sources!

Brandon said...

2. Open borders!

Brandon said...

3. Empty the prisons and cash bail!

Brandon said...

4. A cabinet that looks like America, in other words, has a collective IQ <100!

Brandon said...

5. Groomers in all public schools!

Cousin Dupree said...

Soulless Man Embarks on "Battle for the Soul of the Nation"

Brandon said...

I don't mean to brag, but our promise of more wind and solar has come to fruition.

Anonymous said...

1. False. The oil industry has 9,000 drilling permits going unused.

2. Partly true. Open borders is a neoliberal dream. Neocon/neoliberal is a term I tried to popularize 15 years ago. It means we end up with a corporate dominated government, which conservatives have blindly cheered over those years. I’ve noticed that Steve Bannon is using that term now.

3. False. As you’re likely not aware, he was a proponent of the 1994 Crime bill which increased incarceration. When was the Executive Order, or what was this bill called to which you’re alluding?

4. False. I’m sure their IQs are higher than 100. With all the women and minorities, the cabinet does look more like America. Trumps swamp did not.

5. False. “Grooming” is a GOP culture war diversion away from having a policy of no or irrelevant policies. Tolerance is what they’re teaching.

In Texas rolling blackouts are mostly a result of their grids divorce from one of the national grid systems. I'd be interested in California, though.

Cousin Dupree said...

We pray that the left continues pushing those barking points.

Anonymous said...

Well, I'm sure those prayers are being answered. And I'm not even a Biden fan. And Biden's hardly "the left".

As for Trump, who spoke for me but acted for thee, howz that 250 million dollars been going?

Venezuela, Dupree.

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