St. Thomas thought about everything, including politics. When a degenerate people hand power over to demagogues, then "the elective power should, if it be possible, be taken from the multitude and restored to those who are good."
This seems too sensible to be remotely possible. Still, why should a bad and degenerate people have the right to make Biden the most powerful vegetable on earth?
St. Augustine was also on the case over 1500 years ago: "If a people gradually becomes depraved, if it sells its votes, if it hands over the government to wicked and criminal men, then that power of conferring honors is rightly taken from such a people and restored to those who are good."
Now, in our world we have one party that shamelessly purchases votes with cash and other valuable prizes stolen from the productive half of the population; this would of course be the Democrats.
At the other extreme, we have a party that pretends not to do the same thing, i.e., Republicans. This is why the self-dealing degenerates of both parties so hated (and hate) Trump, and by extension, us. They are united in their contempt for the Good.
The Founders of course knew that democracy eventually degenerates into mob rule, and thus tried to design a government around this melancholy fact. Everything the left does is designed to transform this M.F. into a principle -- a principle designed to counter and undo the work of the Founders.
But it's not really a principle -- unless an utter lack of principle can be elevated to one. This is why it is so futile to point out the daily hypocrisies of the left -- e.g., yesterday only the tinfoil hat crowd believed COVID was invented by the Chinese, today everyone knows it was. That's not hypocrisy, just the usual absence of principle.
Note that the lack of principle is the left's version of "freedom." Any controlling principle would place constraints on the exercise of power, and in the struggle between principle and power, it's no contest. Expediency wins every time.
This is also why the self-styled progressive does indeed progress: in the direction of absurdity. We are beyond the age of mere stupidity and well into the Age of Absurdity.
This is what makes it all so unsettling. We'd like to think that what cannot continue won't continue, but this is probably what Augustine thought on the occasion of that previous barbarian invasion. They're just a disorganized bunch of illiterate malcontents. Besides, Twitter hasn't even been invented. What harm can they do to Civilization?
The current barbarian invasion has already breached the walls of nearly every institution of western civilization, e.g., the family, education at every level, journalism, science, art, entertainment. Even supposing we yanked on the brake right now, sheer momentum would carry the graveyard train forward another 50 years.
Which, in the Chinese perspective on history, is known as "six months."
You know how the left says "the personal is political?" Well, yes. If you can only manage to destroy the person, then there will be no limit to your political power. Regarding politics, Aristotle
starts from the study of the family, the first human community. The father, who rules the family, must deal, in one fashion with his wife, in another with his children, in still another with his slaves ["slave" is not the preferred nomenclature: helot-American laborer of color, please].
Hence, the family has been under constant assault by the left since forever, with predicable results: less stable families, more power for the left. It's why they want women to deny their natural inclinations and toil outside the home, why they want to subsidize bureaucratcare for children, why they disparage masculinity, why they redefine marriage, etc. You can't say the effort hasn't paid off.
This is producing hordes of people who are simply unfit for the rigors of freedom -- even of free speech! Paraphrasing Thomas, Fr. Reginald writes that
the man who cannot provide for himself should work for, and be directed by, one wiser than himself.
Clearly not everyone is cut out for freedom. Indeed, there are whole continents and cultures that can't manage it. Problem is, the left once again elevates this to a kind of principle -- as if none of us can get by without the aggressive intervention of Big Sister because some can't.
This reminds me of an observation by Schuon to the effect that we must recognize that there are indeed a great many adults that can't get by without adult supervision. It's a caste thing.
There exist people -- e.g., the criminal, the revolutionary, the tenured -- for whom mere obedience to human norms would constitute their great virtue. All are badly in need of a proper Father. All evoke the reurn of the primordial Father, except in the form of the tyrant. Or perhaps a harmless looking vegetable as the face of tyranny.
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This is why the self-dealing degenerates of both parties so hated (and hate) Trump, and by extension, us. They are united in their contempt for the Good.
Man, I wonder how braindamaged you have to be to put forward Donald Trump as a representative of "the Good". You don't have to be a leftist – just a normal human being – to recognize him as a grotesque and corrupt figure, who embodies the opposite of virtue.
It's so ridiculous, I can't tell if you are serious or not. Either way it's depraved.
True story: Somewhere out there is a toddler whose mother is a stripper, her father is a crackhead, and her grandfather is *president of the US. But at least he doesn't put out mean tweets.
"If a people gradually becomes depraved, if it sells its votes, if it hands over the government to wicked and criminal men, then that power of conferring honors is rightly taken from such a people and restored to those who are good."
Agree. However, I don't believe that's actually what happened. The people very clearly and by large numbers did not vote for this.
We are beyond the age of mere stupidity and well into the Age of Absurdity.
We had to have a discussion with the kids today about why nobody is selling baseball cards (or any trading cards) in stores now. I never before realized that the prince of this world wears a clown face, but there it is. Explains why clowns are so creepy, I guess. Daily, the honking intensifies.
Old trolls never fade away, they just die.
One day, Dubya's the guy you wanna have a drink with whose rep is to be defended at all costs. The next, it's the even dumber but richer guy who'd rather fire his ass. I blame Obama. Plus maybe Potato Head and Cancel Culture.
Trump is not Hitler by a long shot, but there's some eery parallels in his appeal. Most normal people thought Hitler a comical figure, a sleazy conman with ridiculous hair. Others inexplicably saw him as a savior, an incarnation of the most noble spirits of the German nation.
In both the Hitler and Trump cases, the first group was completely baffled by this, and powerless to resist because they did not understand.
I suspect the second group in both cases embraces a repulsive figure precisely because he was so revolting and offensive by normal standards of decency, because that was part of their revolutionary movement.
What I want to fix your attention on is the vast, overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social, or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how “democracy” (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient Dictatorships, and by the same methods?
I am shocked, shocked that progressives project their totalitarian impulses into Trump! "Both the BBC and CNN, the self-styled moral consciences of the West’s right-thinking set, had reporters who recently expressed support for Hitler. Just think about that.... It should alert us to how mainstream anti-Semitism disguised as anti-Zionism has become."
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For decades the Dems and establishment Republicans both had contempt for the flyover people. Donald didn't, and the politicos hate him.
By the way Bob, I'd be interested if you wished to expound a little on music, especially about true and fake music you alluded to awhile back.
Thank you for this weblog you keep, it's my favorite thing on the internet.
Does this link work, or is it private? BoB's record collection -- at least the things I haven't burned & sold on ebay. It's mostly true, but with a fair amount of fluff.
It's supposed to be public, but maybe you have to sign up on Discogs.
Link works, no sign-in required.
Are those albums you are selling, or just a handy way to keep track?
I tend to place C.S. Lewis in the same box as I do his other Dunning Kruger equals, fools like Milton Friedman and Karl Marx. Stylish spouters of simplistic all-encompassing catchy idealistic aphoristic solutions for complex multidimensional problems with many contributing variables, must certainly be the answer. Because it’s so much easier for the common Joe to grasp, and therefore rationalize.
It reminds me of the time when the leadership from my once great name-brand corporation told us that their buying back of shares and sharing of proprietary technologies with competitors from other nations, would make all of our wildest worker bee dreams come true.
Instead, they got fat paydays and we got laid off and now the company is in trouble.
So why didn’t they just do things which had made that place successful, historically, like investing in promising business directions and rooting out weedy crony/nepotistic political cultures before they had a chance to go to seed? Because blaming the education system is such a great ruse. “Don’t blame us leaders. We’re the geniuses, dontchaknow. Blame American schools because they’re so obviously inferior to those found in China, Russia, and Mexico.”
The people who get promoted are the ones who never question the system, or Dear Leader, no matter the direction or result. You have to go along to get along.
For decades the Dems and establishment Republicans both had contempt for the flyover people. Donald didn't, and the politicos hate him.
Said who?
My teacher would tell us that Mexicans were needed as workers in the states because they were all good and decent and hardworking and religious. Plus Anglos didn’t want to do the work.
So I asked: “If Mexicans are so good and decent and hardworking and religious, then why isn’t it Mexico that’s the great country instead of the Anglo-infested USA? And before you go there, successful Canada is a multi-cultural melting pot, while successful Sweden is not. What's the secret to their success?”
I was always the naughty kid, so full of wise-assery. The teacher made me sit in the corner with the dunces. Sometimes you just have to go along to get along.
Julie:
That's the collection. I keep trying to whittle it down, but collecters gonna collect. Until they come up with a medication.
Z Man on democracy:
"Once the society accepts the idea of democracy, all limits on the franchise quickly give way to democratic zeal.
"In the 20th century, as the country transformed from a republic into a social democracy, the franchise quickly started to expand to include all men, then women, then blacks. Now we are extending the vote to criminals, foreigners, and the imaginary.
"One reason for this is the very nature of democracy. In a world of fifty percent plus one there will always be a large minority unhappy with the result. In order to avoid conflict, the natural elites form parties, which allows them to form a consensus around a set of compromises on the important issues."
Somehow Dr. Feelgood had escaped my radar. Just ordered a collection. I was in a band back then -- in the late '70s. This is exactly what we would have wanted to sound like.
We actually did this song, but we only knew about the Stones version from 1964.
So here is Gagdad Bob, back from his journey into inner space to hit us with another classic Left bashing post! love it (and other readers do to). This topic has long been the bread and butter of this blog.
The relentless negativity expressed by the blog author is not as easy to pull off as you might think; you try it. I mean, he has just smeared large segments of the population as degenerates unworthy or incapable of self rule. Would you be able to do that as eloquently?
And here I was thinking our diverse, fair, just society was knocking it out of the park with one fabulous achievement after another. Mars helicopters! Legal weed! F-35 stealth fighters! Cryptocurrency! Young prodigal tech go-getters throwing shade on the elders with their brilliance!
And Joe, well he seems to be holding down his responsibilities so far.
But as for Gagdad, he sez "...why should a bad and degenerate people have the right to make Biden the most powerful vegetable on earth?"
Now who are you going to believe, me or Gagdad? The choice is obvious, right?
-Little Annie's Fanny is on Fire
When it comes to music, I've noticed some very hot items coming from the land of TV advertising of all things.
Wendy's hamburger chain has just come out with the song "Major Bag Alert." I tell you it is catchy as hell.
"Bag Alert, May-jor Baaaaaa-g Alert" intones the vocoded male singer, over a catchy synth riff. Dynamite!
Perrier water has this one:
"I feel, I feel golden. I feel like glitter on my shoulder, ahhhhh!" The backing track has a plaintive coo that sounds like an electronic mourning dove on acid. Fabulous!
There is a lot of talent in advertising.
Old TV series like "Gilligan's Island" and "Get Smart" have smash hit music introductions as well.
Any other fans of TV music out there? Give a holler!
Anonymous 2:05PM: ". I mean, he has just smeared large segments of the population as degenerates unworthy or incapable of self rule."
I think the good Dr's MO is to throw gasoline on the fire the stir up the base. I'm not sure he really believes much of what he espouses. Re the population being incapable of self rule, he does have a point for other reasons. See https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/28/politics/poll-qanon-election-conspiracies/index.html. 23% of Republicans believe the Qanon drivel that ""the government, media, and financial worlds in the U.S. are controlled by a group of Satan-worshipping pedophiles who run a global child sex trafficking operation,". Can people that stupid be trusted to vote? However, what is the alternative? Democracy is the least evil form of government all of which are hampered by inability of the general populace to think logically. Assuming that Dr. Godwin is too smart to really believe the propaganda he repackages with gasoline and fire, there are lot of people that do. (e.g. how could a Dr. of Psychology not recognize blatant malignant narcissism).
You would expect stupid people to fall prey to this. What I find scary about this site is that there are people that seem to be quite intelligent who believe that Trump really won the election and of course won't back up their believes with any reasonable facts. It doesn't matter that even former Attorney General Barr said there was no widespread election fraud, that republican states had recount after recount which found nothing irregular, that over 60 cases alleging fraud were thrown out, etc... They just swallow the propaganda hook, line, and sinker. I find that astounding. How can intelligent people behave so unintelligently? Are they just fooling themselves? Only if we had a psychologist to examine this in more detail.
Hi Anonymous 2:28
Absolutely, you have said well what I have found remarkable about Gagdad and his followers. Are they for real? It is hard to believe. It almost has to be an act. If it isn't, well then, we are looking at something special, aren't we? This would need some study.
From a military standpoint, I think our nation has raised and trained capable warriors, equipped them with good equipment, and I think led them well on worthy causes. We have prevailed against some tough foes, including ISIS. I question whether a nation of degenerates could field such fine soldiers, and consistently stand up for what is right, not what as easy. That is my take on America.
Degenerate. I say look in the mirror if you want to name-call Americans. Lack of respect is the vibe I get from this blog writer.
I think that Gagdad is true in his political beliefs and there is nothing wrong with that. However I think he takes it too far for effect and doesn't truly believe everything he says when it comes to politics. I am neither Democrat nor Republican, but I can call BS on both sides and am appalled by some things Dems do and things the Republicans do. Things are so one sided here. One side can't be perfect and the other side the devil reincarnated. There is reality and are facts. It is the things that are blatantly false and without any reasonable evidence such as claims that Trump really won the election and the cherry picking of things one side does that are ignored on the other and demonizing everyone that doesn't agree 100% with ones beliefs as being the scourge of the universe (the LEFT).
It is a shame to see someone so brilliant and such a deep thinker cheapen his credibility like that. He really does have interesting things to say that make you think. I can't reconcile the blind spots to reason. If someone on side A says X which is wrong, it doesn't mean that all on side A have that belief. The fringe remarks are taken as the beliefs of all and then anyone loosely associated by a number of levels of indirection are branded with the same beliefs and as being the evil left. And of course the things that are provably wrong on the side that is supported are ignored. It isn't what someone says or how they behave... it is what group they belong to.
Maybe it is the same as ex-smokers as it is with ex-liberals. Ex-smokers are the most intolerant of cigarette smoke. Actually Regan was an ex Democrat. I would say the same as Trump, but he is not ideologically driven - all that matters is himself. If he could have been president by being a Democrat, he would have done so. His only concern is soothing his frail ego and trying to look good. Nothing else matters. I don't see how anyone could look at Trump's behavior and think that he serves anything but his own interests.
Do you ever think thoughts and decide they aren't worth sharing, anon?
Maybe try that sometime. You'd be amazed at the positive effect on your relationships.
There are different anon's in this conversation, but since I am the last that responded prior to you response, I'll take the bait.
I can be overly emotional and guilty of being abrasive when I am emotional and apologize for that and as with anyone, I have said cringeworthy things in my past and will unfortunately likely do so in the future. Yeah, my thoughts weren't very tactful, but I stand by them and really would like someone who disagrees with me to present their opinions - even though I probably didn't go about it in the most constructive way. I especially truly want to understand why leads intelligent people to buy into the Trump really won the election argument. I'm open to any evidence anyone can provide or anything that leads people to buy into it. I really don't get it and really would like to understand.
I consider this a significant threat to our democracy. How can a democracy function if the losing side dismisses the legitimacy of the election without any evidence? How can a democracy function if there is an attack on it as there was Jan 6 and the government sweeps it under the rug? If there was legitimate widespread fraud in the election, I would support an investigation of it. How many times can you investigate the same thing and find nothing and have people still believe there is something there. I am perplexed. I know that you do feel that there was widespread fraud and may even believe that Trump won. I really would like to understand your thought process on that. I never liked Trump, but when he won the election I accepted it. I just don't get why people can't accept the results of the last election.
For the guy who wrote the post, I would put his candy ass on night patrol in Kandahar to give him something to bitch about.
Seriously, where does he get off harshly judging his fellow Americans? What is his moral authority? I wouldn't let him judge my dog.
What service branch did he serve in? What was his MOS? What was his rank? What operations was he in?
He better have some solid military background to his name if he's going to slander his nation.
What do you all think? Am I right?
I love those barrettes in your hair. Man, I'll tell you what... look at her she looks like she’s 19 years old sitting there like a little lady with her legs crossed.
Hide your kids, hide your wife when Joe comes to town.
Do you ever think thoughts and decide they aren't worth sharing, anon?
Anon1: “Hello.”
Anon2: “Hello..”
Anon3: “Hello…”
Anons 1, 2, and 3: “Hello!”
"Note that the lack of principle is the left's version of "freedom." Any controlling principle would place constraints on the exercise of power, and in the struggle between principle and power, it's no contest. Expediency wins every time."
And Pragmatism is their cover for doing it.
Just as perception is reality, projection is principle.
I’ve been a principled "America First" nationalist since the Reagan years. I was frequently hammered by conservatives for not being free trade enough. And from a few, for not employing undocumenteds. Today, not so much. That’s not very “principled”.
Van Harvey, sir, a few yes/no questions.
Do you believe high ranking Democrat officials including Ms. Clinton sexually abused children, trafficked children, and ate human flesh?
Do you believe the 2020 Presidential election was rigged/fraudulent?
Do you believe former President Donald Trump ever said the words "I like to grab them by the pussy?"
If you could answer those questions please, thank you.
"Do you ever think thoughts and decide they aren't worth sharing, anon?"
Whoever wrote this, do you know what anonymous trolls do around here? Yes? No?
Hint: we trolls are not in the business of not sharing. Quite the opposite.
Van Harvey agreed with:
"Note that the lack of principle is the left's version of "freedom."
And added:
"And Pragmatism is their cover for doing it."
So Van, what is your version of freedom? And what is your relationship to pragmatism?
Because I don't see anything wrong with pragmatism. Or the reach for power. That is what people do. That is what they have always done.
Maybe anon needs to ask these three questions: Does this NEED to be said? Does it need to be said NOW? Does it need to be said by ME?
Does this NEED to be said? Yes
Does it need to be said NOW? Absolutely.
Does it need to be said by ME? Yes. Because nobody else will.
What needs to be said? This: Ye shall know them by their dance steps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NDy6Rlijzo
Creepy, in an Orwellian/ Arthur C Clarkian sorta way. Compare with the far more humanly relatable Jewish techno party:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_35FTnYVA
Olden Ears, this to a troll is a ridiculous question. The answer is always a resounding yes on all counts.
I should put out a seminar on trolls. People don't understand our tradecraft at all.
One mans troll is another mans truthsayer. Or soothsayer perhaps. In Van Harvey Land (a good title for a whimsical children's book methinks) leftists are a bunch of anonymous sillies who'd be better served managing their own affairs and leaving their betters who do, manage their own affairs, alone. The truth is that we dont mind when Olden Ears' ears, have grown quite large with age and that they really could be shaved because of all the hairs growing out. We mind because his kind aren't minding their own affairs and leaving their betters who do, manage their own affairs, alone.
Let's spice things up a bit...
Bill Barr in recent interview in the Altantic: "“My attitude was: It was put-up or shut-up time,” Barr recalled at one point. “If there was evidence of fraud, I had no motive to suppress it. But my suspicion all the way along was that there was nothing there. It was all bulls***.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/06/william-barrs-trump-administration-attorney-general/619298/?utm_source=twitter&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_term=2021-06-27T10%3A00%3A57&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=the-atlantic
Still not one shred of evidence that there was any widespread fraud, but a ridiculous percentage of Republicans believe that Trump won, 30% believe that Trump will be reinstated:https://thehill.com/homenews/news/557486-one-third-of-republicans-believe-trump-will-be-reinstated-as-president-poll), and a majority believe that the left wing was responsible for Jan 6 (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/capitol-riots-republicans-poll-b1856119.html). Absolutely astounding! Reality and evidence seems to play no part in the beliefs in a large percentage of the population. How can so many people not be able to apply common sense reason to their beliefs?
If you are in the camp who believes that Trump actually won, etc... instead attacking, I challenge to defend their beliefs with evidence if they disagree with any of the presented facts). This topic has come up many times here and not once has anyone defended their beliefs with any evidence. What is your thought process?
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