Saturday, July 22, 2006

The Mythol-Gap Between Left, Right, and Wrong

I’m still thinking about the broken moral compass of the Left, and where it actually comes from. I think it’s very important to emphasize at the outset that the Left is not morally confused. Hardly. They are very sanctimonious and morally sure of themselves, as we discussed yesterday. They have a moral compass. It’s just that it points due south instead of north.

In other words, there is a deep structure of leftist morality that is the cause of moral choices made on the surface. Ironically, this deep structure is specifically Christian, even (or especially) for irreligious secular fundamentalists. It’s just that it is a twisted version of Christianity--literally a religious perversion. It is a perversion (please don’t get me wrong--I mean this literally, in the clinical and descriptive sense, not as an insult) that could only occur in a society that is thoroughly infused with Christian morality. (There is also a twisted version of Judaism that I don't have time to get into; suffice it to say that Karl Marx was the great anti-Moses with the reverse Sinai revelation.)

If one is going to engage in comparative religion, one needs to exit history and take a martian's-eye view of the situation. From that much wider trans-historical viewpoint, the Judeo-Christian tradition emerges not as religion, but the cure for religion--including the religion of atheism or “secularism.” Allow me to explain.

The default religion of human beings is the practice of human sacrifice. This pathological virus planted deep in the heart of the human species has been given insufficient attention by scholars. Virtually all primitive cultures and ancient civilizations engaged in it. For reasons I try to explain in my book--a book that I promise never to mention again once I rid myself of the dreaded 100 copies--there is something spontaneously but perversely "holy" or "sacred" in the taking of innocent human life.

Obviously, the foundation stone of Judaism is the injunction against human sacrifice, when God tells Abraham not to kill him a son out on highway 61. Superficially, Christianity may be seen as a resuscitation of the sacrificial motif, with the murder of the innocent Jesus, but in reality, this is clearly intended to convey the idea that when we murder innocence, we murder God. The crucifixion of Jesus is meant to be the last human sacrifice, with Jesus standing in for our own murdered innocence (and our own murderous selves). (I actually heard a leftist the other day on Err America argue that embryonic stem cell research is morally justified because the great lesson of Christianity is that it is good for fathers to kill their sons, and therefore, to destroy human embryos.)

Unfortunately, Islamism (if not Islam itself) clearly involves a reversion to the sacrificial impulse and a return to "mere" religion. If one reads the Koran, one is struck by how frequently Allah instructs his followers to murder in his name. While Christians have obviously behaved badly in the past, there is nothing in the actual Christian message that justifies it, i.e., witch hunts, pogroms, etc. As such, the Biblical text is ultimately "self-correcting" over time. Apparently not so with the Koran. Far from engaging in some kind of aberration, the Islamists are following the letter of the law. There is nothing in the Koran that categorically forbids them to do what they do, and much that encourages it. They can quote chapter and verse from the Koran much more effectively than any provincial liberal who naively believes “all religions are the same.”

Aztec religion centered around the sacrifice of something like 50,000 innocent human beings a year. As such, like many religions, it was the very disease it sought to cure. If Jesus had appeared there, he would have simply been told to "take a number" and get in line. Again, taking the martian's-eye view, humans are a sick and troubled species. They especially need a cure for their primordial religiosity.

Here is the point: what we call political correctness is a specifically Western perversion of Christianity, since Christianity is the religion that elevates the ultimate victim to the status of Godhood: God is the innocent victim and the innocent victim is God. (Perhaps I should note that these arguments are drawn from a wonderful book entitled Violence Unveiled, by Gil Bailie. Highly recommended. Ironically, Bailie is now engaged in trying to fend of the politically correct hijacking of his ideas.)

Therefore, improperly understood, this Christian cognitive template puts in place a sort of cultural "race to the bottom" in competition for who is more oppressed, and therefore, more godlike.

People who actually practice Christianity--real Christianity--don't generally have this confusion. Rather, it is only secular types who are nevertheless parasitic on the deep structure of a specifically Christian phenomenology (as well as horizontal "social justice" or "liberation theology" Christians who "immamentize the eschaton.")

Once victim status is secured, then any behavior is excused and sanctioned. This is how, say, the Palestinians (and the left in general), always get away with such bad behavior. Once you are the victim, you are virtually omnipotent and can do anything. Like O.J., you can murder someone, but if you can manage to depict yourself as the victim, you are innocent. Try reading your newspaper and looking for this prominent subtext on a daily basis. It won't be hard to find. Often the political battle on any given issue comes down to who can successfully depict themselves as the victim. For example, who is the victim: the aborted fetus or the woman who cannot abort her fetus? Whoever is the victim, wins.

Check out Dr. Sanity’s little moral Rorschach Test from yesterday. Just like the Left, the Islamists are parasitic on Christianity, knowing full well that we value their innocent children more than they do. They know that if they deliberately cause as much suffering among their own people as possible, then the perverse conscience of the international Left will award them the ultimate “Christian” prize of victim status and blame Israel.

In a sick way, it’s a beautiful strategy. But it’s all manipulation. Islamic culture prizes only the “strong man” and the oppressor, not the victim. They’re just playing a game with the deep Christian structure of the international Left, and get away with it every time.

Pacifism is another sinister meme that is a perversion of Christianity. This week, that king of all metaphysical hucksters, Deepak Chopra, wrote an idiotorial for the Chronically San Franciscan newspaper. As you may know, these primitive new-age folks automatically tilt way left and therefore tend to be deeply morally confused. For example, Chopra asks, “Did Christ teach love or is that just a liberal bias? In the current climate, it's hard to remember.... The reversal of Christianity from a religion of love to a religion of hate is the greatest religious tragedy of our time.”

This statement is so stupid on so many levels that it’s difficult to know where to begin. Chopra goes on to say that enlightened beings such as himself “can't join any sect that preaches intolerance, yet we can't fight it, either, because by definition fighting is a form of intolerance.” Do you see the perversion? Fighting of any kind is forbidden because it is automatically intolerant, and intolerance produces victims. Naturally, it is exactly this kind of sick morality that allows evil to flourish, while, at the same time, allowing Chopra and his ilk to feel superior to the brave and virtuous people who actually name and fight evil! Breathtaking, really. Like all pacifists, Chopra is actively and enthusiastically working for the other side: the side of evil.

As I wrote in a past post, Chopra “reminds me of no one so much as Mahatma Gandhi, one of the most overrated human beings in history. Gandhi also thought that it was evil to fight the great evil of his day, Hitler--in other words, Gandhi wasn't just morally confused, but morally deranged." Again, I mean this in a literal sense, because how else can you describe someone who passionately urged European Jews to surrender to Hitler and accept whatever fate Hitler had prepared for them? Likewise, Gandhi told Churchill and the British, "Let them take possession of your beautiful island with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these, but neither your souls, nor your minds."

Later, Gandhi wrote two letters directly to Hitler, addressing him as "My Friend," and fawning over him like Jimmy Carter might fawn over Kim Jung Il or Yasser Arafat: "That I address you as a friend is no formality. I own no foes. My business in life has been for the past 33 years to enlist the friendship of the whole of humanity by befriending mankind, irrespective of race, colour or creed." To Gandhi, British colonialism was no different than Nazi totalitarianism. He wrote that "If there ever could be a justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against Germany, to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be completely justified. But I do not believe in any war."

As such, regarding the Holocaust, Gandhi wrote that if he were a Jew in Germany, he would challenge the nazis "to shoot me or cast me in the dungeon; I would refuse to be expelled or to submit to discriminating treatment. And for doing this, I should not wait for the fellow Jews to join me in civil resistance but would have confidence that in the end the rest are bound to follow my example. If one Jew or all the Jews were to accept the prescription here offered, he or they cannot be worse off than now. And suffering voluntarily undergone will bring them an inner strength and joy which no number of resolutions of sympathy passed in the world outside Germany can. Indeed, even if Britain, France and America were to declare hostilities against Germany, they can bring no inner joy, no inner strength."

According to one scholar, "Even after the war, when the full extent of the Holocaust was revealed, Gandhi told one of his biographers, that the Jews died anyway, didn't they? They might as well have died significantly." This is sick.

Compare the morally confused Gandhi and Chopra to another Hindu who has had a profound influence on my own life, the morally lucid Sri Aurobindo. Aside from Winston Churchill, as far as I know, he was the most vociferous public opponent of Hitler in the 1930's, when few others recognized the nature and extent of his evil. Many in India were actually supportive of Hitler's aims, since they so hated the British. But Aurobindo wrote that such individuals "have no idea about the world and talk like little children. Hitler is the greatest menace the world has ever met." Later he wrote that the struggle against Hitler was not just war, but "a defense of civilization and its highest attained social, cultural and spiritual values and of the whole future of humanity."

What Sri Aurobindo wrote in the early 1940's could be equally applied today, with not one word altered: "You should not think of it as a fight for certain nations against others... It is a struggle for an ideal that has to establish itself on earth in the life of humanity, for a Truth that has yet to realize itself fully and against a darkness and falsehood that are trying to overwhelm the earth and mankind.... It is the forces behind the battle that have to be seen and not this or that superficial circumstance... It is a struggle for the liberty of mankind to develop, for conditions in which men have freedom and room to think and act according to the light in them, and to grow in the Truth, grow in the Spirit. There cannot be the slightest doubt that if one side wins, there will be an end of all such freedom and hope of light and truth, and the [spiritual] work that has to be done will be subjected to conditions which would make it humanly impossible; there will be a reign of falsehood and darkness, a cruel oppression and degradation for most of the human race such as people in this country do not dream of and cannot yet realize."

It may sound polemical to call someone like Chopra a moral idiot, but there are surely moral idiots, just as there are intellectual idiots. How could there not be? Half of mankind is, by definition, below average in whatever particular area one is assessing. Moral idiocy simply means that the person in question is unable to reason coherently within the realm of good and evil, and to make sound moral distinctions. In this regard, they might as well be working for the other side, because they are.

******

UPDATE:

Many similar examples of insane leftist morality on LGF today. Note the utter cynicism and the frighteningly unbound moral fervor, as discussed yesterday; and the twisted "reframing" of who is the real victim:

"This is a declaration to fight ethnic clensing and genocide whenever and where ever it happens.

As painful as it is to point out, and as much of a bald faced abomination as it is, I would be nothing but a damned hypocrite if I did not speak out and say “Never Again” now.

The statement is without equivication or loophole.

It’s not:

“Never Again - unless there is communist threat”,
“Never Again - unless there is terrorist threat”,
“Never Again - to Jews”,
“Never Again - unless the U.S. President says it is within his authority to authorize”,
“Never Again - unless the victims are ’fill in with your favorite sub-human group“

So this is what I will continue to argue-

1. Palestine is an Israeli administered concentration camp.
2. Israel (with U.S. funding) is conducting ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
3. The Governments of the United States and Israel should be in front of the World Court in the Hague and (if convicted and given the harshest penalty) be executed."

Another:

"If the U.S. were just out blocking the passage of toothless U.N. ceasefire resolutions, you could ask the question “why do ‘they’ hate us?” But with the U.S. actively sending fuel and missiles to Israel in the midst of a shooting war, a war producing hundreds of victims..., we’ve moved way beyond that. The United States is now a legitimate military target in that war. That includes factories making the missiles or any parts or materials that go into them, refineries making aviation fuel, and trucks and railroads and ports and ships and planes being used to transport any of those things, not to mention any of the people involved in those activities."

MY COMMENT: You see? The morally omnipotent victims are now free to discharge their violence against the real victimizers, the U.S. and Israel! The complete Christian inversion. Sick, sick, sick.

*****

More darkness visible at huffingandpissed. Beyond sick. (HT LGF)

22 Comments:

Anonymous cosmophile said...

I did not know that about Gandhi. Wow.

What an idiot. I hate to say that, but Hitler would doubtless have been unimpressed with the dignity-in-suffering of untermenschen subhumans.

I recall a 70's National Lampoon bit about Gandhi -- if he were to be attacked by a tiger, he would 'refuse to be eaten.' LOL. Now I know where that came from.

Learn something new every day. Thanks!

7/22/2006 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger The Bunnies said...

Wow, Bob, that's brilliant. Kind of like only humans can become sub-human, only those from a Christian society can come up with bizarro-Christianity.

It almost reminds me of Darth Vader who had to master the Force before he could be of much use to the Dark Side.

Luke said, "I see the good in you" to Vader. Thing is, does bizarro-Christianity have an actual semblance of Truth still hidden away somewhere within it, or has it been so corrupted by the Dark Side that it needs to be completely erased like Islamofascism?

I've seen before how I can get a leftist to concede all sorts of perfectly reasonable points, but when I see them a week later, they've forgotten everything and remember only the evils of Halliburton. In some of them, a shadow of good still seems to remain, but can it be uncovered from under all that filth?

7/22/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Obviously, Gandhi accomplished much that was good, in addition to being the primary influence on MLK's highly moral tactic of civil obedience. Gandhi's error, of course, was in thinking that he had discovered a universal principle in "ahimsa." Rather, it is only an effective tactic when you are dealing with an essentially moral, usually Judeo-Christian, adversary. So he clearly didn't discover what he thought he had discovered, and that is where his deep moral confusion--and ther danger that results from it--lies.

If only the "Palestinians" adopted his strategy, they would have had their state 50 + years ago. Indeed, they could have it right now, in an instant. However, if Israel adopted his stratgegy, it would be extinct.

7/22/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger The Bunnies said...

I heard an anecdote in which, before WW II, a British official was describing to a German official all the headaches that Gandhi was causing. The German asked "So why don't you just shoot him?" The Briton got confused.

7/22/2006 08:46:00 AM  
Blogger Alan said...

In the "upside down Christian world", peace takes top priority....
not the peace of Christ but worldly peace
and the surest path to peace.....

is death.

However, not being able to accomplish that overtly or consciously, they advocate all sorts of cures to the world's ills....
every....
one...
of...
which...
is...
a...
step....
towards....
death.

7/22/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous sally4th said...

I think that as humans, when we think of the fall of man, we tend to think of the seven deadly sins: gluttony, lust, pride, envy, etc. However, far more serious and immediate was the corruption of our spiritual selves, or as you state our moral intelligence.
Christianity and its antecedent, Judaism, give us a chance to reclaim or at least approach that state of deep spiritual understanding and connection that we lost back in the garden. It is one of the reasons why it is so difficult to have a meaningful conversation with those whose moral compass is skewed to the Left, or South as you put it. Their knowledge, experience, and focus is at an entirely different level.

7/22/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Blogger PSGInfinity said...

They kill the inconvenient, and lionize the wicked. Truly, the 'party' of death.

7/22/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Sal said...

"Here is the point: what we call political correctness is a specifically Western perversion of Christianity, since Christianity is the religion that elevates the ultimate victim to the status of Godhood: God is the innocent victim and the innocent victim is God."

Bob, am I misunderstanding the way you've phrased this? Jesus isn't God b/c He winds up being the ultimate victim, He has to be God to *be* the ultimate victim in the first place. Or else the victim wouldn't be ultimate.
or is this Bailie's description?

Though you're completely right about the perversion of the idea. Thank you (or him) for a useful argument.

7/22/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Sal--

It's been awhile since I read the book, but I believe Bailie would say that he's drawing out the unconscious anthropological implications of Christian theology, although Dilys might be able to correct me.

In any event, although I don't agree entirely with his thesis, it's a great read--very thought provoking. Plus he's Catholic, so he's kosher. A deep thinker, but very clear.

7/22/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous jwm said...

I just got back from LGF. Charles is posting pictures from anti-Israel protests in Los Angeles, Chicago, London, Sydney, Moscow, and I'm sure there will be more by the time I'm done writing this. This is very depressing. Because of islam there is war on every continent. Every place islam claims as its own is marked by bloody conflict with non moslem populations, or bloody internal fighting between different strains of islam. Hizbalah is a terrorist organization whose goal is to destroy Israel, and kill Jews. No one with a modicum of morality could support hizbalah. Except moslems, and leftists.
Leftism is a spiritual and moral aids that has infected the west. The growth of islam is the opportunistic disease that will kill the west unless it is stopped.
Look what islam has already done to our society. Your freedom has been abridged because of the moslems in America. Your privacy has been lessened because of the moslems in America. The Department of Homeland security, and the billions of tax dollars that you and I pay for it are a necessity because of the moslems in America. The NSA wiretaps are a necessity because of the moslems in America. The FBI is working overtime because of the moslems in America. We have a choice. We can have a free and open society like the one I grew up with, or we can have a moslem population in our midst. We can not have both.
Multiculturalism anyone?

JWM

7/22/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Alan said...

Coincidences have been abounding today...

I just got back from picking up a pizza from Costco (best dealing going if you have preteen boys) in this oppressive southern California heat and I brushed up against Islam twice within 5 minutes....
1. A moslem father, mother, and teenage daughter, by all accounts very westernized - and the father was embarassing his daughter by talking with others in line. He complimented a couple in front of him saying the in his culture a husband feeding his wife was a sign of a great marriage (he had given her a bite of his churro)
2. Just as I'm leaving costco, a late teenage hispanic boy walks past the security holding out his shiny new koran saying proudly "this is mine, it is the most holy koran".

And then I come back and read jwm's posting. I haven't a clue what it all means but the first incident above warmed my heart and the second, for some reason, chilled me.

7/22/2006 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger lmg said...

This blogger has written extensively about Leftism.

7/22/2006 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Larwyn said...

The Hez/Iranians really miscalculated on this one. VCH and Mark Steyn have both had columns re how Americans are getting very fed up. JW expressed such.

I also think that they may have figured that this would also impact our midterms and put the party of "moral confusion" in control of congress. Thus insuring that they could continue their preparations in the safe bosom of the likes of "Twinkle Toes" Albright and her second Wendy (right out of Peter Pan).
I have asked sites that do such things, to be sure to save all those DEM comments from last Sunday's shows. They are each priceless in their stupidity. Larry King and some MSNBC shows were showing pics of Carter and Palestinians and Clinton and Arafat, so sad that their diplomacy was ignored.
One of Tony Snow's recent bests:
When asked why GW wouldn't send Clinton/Albright etc over as envoys as they had experience, Tony replied:
"Blazingly ineffective.

Really, Robert if these people were behaving like this in just daily family or work life, wouldn't they be up for intervention and commited?

NAP, but they open their mouths and I hear definition of insanity.

7/22/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger ForNow said...

I've thought of leftism as some poles-crossed version of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and think vaguely of Jean Genet, certain characters in Dostoevsky's novels, and some folks whom I've known. But I hadn't thought of human sacrifice as the "default" religion and as the default pathology of human society. Fascinating stuff.

One thing -- at the beginning you say, "I think it’s very important to emphasize at the outset that the Left is not morally confused. .... They have a moral compass. It’s just that it points due south instead of north." Then later you say "As you may know, these primitive new-age folks automatically tilt way left and therefore tend to be deeply morally confused."

That left me a bit confused.

7/22/2006 11:51:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

for now--

Apologize for the lack of clarity. In the first instance I meant that they are morally very morally sure of themselves. They don't "feel" confused to themselves. Nevertheless, they "are" confused.

Likewise, I'm sure someone like bin Laden is not morally confused. From what we can tell, he knows no doubt at all. But obviously he's a confused man.

There must be a better way to say it....

7/23/2006 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob the Buddha said...

“The default religion of human beings is the practice of human sacrifice.”
We are animals after all, unfettered, run by dominant alpha males we will act as badly as our power allows.

“but in reality, this is clearly intended to convey the idea that when we murder innocence, we murder God.”
How long do you think one can be “murdering god” before it has consequences?


“As such, the Biblical text is ultimately "self-correcting" over time. Apparently not so with the Koran. Far from engaging in some kind of aberration, the Islamists are following the letter of the law.”
Yea must be the raw texts, couldn’t have anything to do with the lack of modern technologies and education. Imagine if someone in the states replaced bibles in hotels with the Koran? We’d be blowing up the world in a matter of weeks.

“There is nothing in the Koran that categorically forbids them to do what they do, and much that encourages it”
*cough* witch trials *cough* When comparing two religions it’s only fair to compare them against their environment. How were the followers of the bible acting when the environment / technology climate they lived in matched that of the Middle East today? (Say around the 1600’s)

“They can quote chapter and verse from the Koran much more effectively than any provincial liberal who naively believes “all religions are the same.””
They are all the same, all products of human beings attempting to create a coherent framework to describe reality. The harsh realities of actually living in the Middle East caused their expression of religion to also be harsh. If they were peace loving hippies they’d have been overrun.

“Pacifism is another sinister meme that is a perversion of Christianity.”
Perhaps, it has nothing to do with Christianity? Or Perhaps Christianity is a perversion of pacifism?

“As you may know, these primitive new-age folks automatically tilt way left and therefore tend to be deeply morally confused.”
I could write:
As you may know, these primitive conservative folks automatically tilt way right and therefore tend to be deeply morally confused.
This proves nothing, it’s a circular statement.

7/23/2006 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob the Buddha said...

“Do you see the perversion? Fighting of any kind is forbidden because it is automatically intolerant, and intolerance produces victims. Naturally, it is exactly this kind of sick morality that allows evil to flourish, while, at the same time, allowing Chopra and his ilk to feel superior to the brave and virtuous people who actually name and fight evil!”

Conflict, only produces evil on both sides; you dance with the devil and the devil changes you. Your lack of understanding is rooted in your personal attachment to your own wellbeing. Your rant appeals to the concept that Self can be more valuable that Other. This is the cause of your own flawed moral compass.

“Like all pacifists, Chopra is actively and enthusiastically working for the other side: the side of evil.”
Like all ego centered people, Bob is actively and enthusiastically working for the other side: the side of evil. Justifying violence as a solution to violence does nothing to serve god, it serves the individual and the local tribe, not god.

"Let them take possession of your beautiful island with your many beautiful buildings. You will give all these, but neither your souls, nor your minds."
I can see why this inflames you, your attachment to these beautiful buildings and your bodies are what give these external alpha males power over you.

"If there ever could be a justifiable war in the name of and for humanity, a war against Germany, to prevent the wanton persecution of a whole race, would be completely justified. But I do not believe in any war."
Tell me how has war thus far provided any actual permanent solution to human conflict? It only serves to justify future violence in the name of past material prizes gained through conflict. If you feed a dog that bites, what will he do if he’s hungry again?

“According to one scholar, "Even after the war, when the full extent of the Holocaust was revealed, Gandhi told one of his biographers, that the Jews died anyway, didn't they? They might as well have died significantly." This is sick.”
Again, from my perspective god only values the struggles and choices we make in life. If we die at 20 or 100 it makes little difference to the eternal. Sure it makes a difference to you, but that’s only because you value yourself over god (which is totally natural). This is the whole Garden of Eden tale.

“there will be a reign of falsehood and darkness, a cruel oppression and degradation for most of the human race such as people in this country do not dream of and cannot yet realize."
All such empires collapse. Nobody saves Stalin when he chokes.

“It may sound polemical to call someone like Chopra a moral idiot, but there are surely moral idiots, just as there are intellectual idiots.”
You are assuming that your intellect will lead you to morality, your intellect will only lead you to self preservation, and perhaps the short term survival of the tribe you identify with. Intellect is the tool monkeys use to crack nuts and eat ants from a stick, not find god.

“Moral idiocy simply means that the person in question is unable to reason coherently within the realm of good and evil, and to make sound moral distinctions.”
The problem you are having is with your expressed duality between good and evil; you missed one fundamental piece in your equation earlier.
1 does equal infinity
but also consider
0 = 1 = infinity
From gods perspective there is no good and evil, that’s a creation of your intellect. God is above all contrasts; he is calm in the face of all the evils man can dream up.

Do you think it’s tragic when a lion eats a zebra? How about when an ape kills a baboon?

7/23/2006 07:46:00 AM  
Blogger ForNow said...

Gagdad Bob,

Thanks, I thought it might be something like that. Easiest way to say it -- they don't feel confused, they experience no subjective confusion, etc., or, whatever they feel, they don't believe that they are seriously confused.

I've noticed that psychologists, psychiatrists, etc., slide more easily between "subjective" and "objective" senses of words than others do. This is especially noticeable with the word "guilt" where the implicit sense "feeling of one's own guilt" has become presumptive in many discussions. (If I were a logician, I'd play around with logical operators to see about expressing the difference).

7/23/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dislike dragging things off-topic, but perhaps you might comment on the Fjordman's latest dispatch at the Gates of Vienna? More specifically, I point you at the portion of his essay quoting Sowell and Hoffer identifying education as "soul rape" in modern classes. Do you think the comparison apt?

As for the Anonymous handle, certain computer restrictions have my hands tied where I currently sit.

--the Impresario

7/24/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger grant said...

Bob--I'm wondering if the US should not just go ahead and occupy Syria and Iran and pretty much lance the whole Islamic boil while the opportunity exists. If sufficient reasons can be worked up so as to overcome public resistance, I see how we could enlist Israel to secure our flank while we mass troops in Iraq for a push east into Iran (after softening her with massive air strikes). After Teheran falls, then US and Israeli forces could easily crush Syria in a pincer movement.
All of the remaining trouble states in the middle east could then be assimilated one by one at leisure.
All that would be left to do then is to deal with North Korea.

7/26/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In reading the part of your piece dealing with human sacrifice as the basis for religion, I'm wondering if you have had a chance to read Violence and the Sacred by René Girard? I found it to be a very good explanation of this phenomena.

10/23/2009 08:39:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Yes, but I prefer Gil Bailie's reworking of Girard in his Violence Unveiled.

10/23/2009 08:51:00 PM  

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