Saturday, August 22, 2009

Why is There Stupidity?

Stupidities must come, but woe to the man through whom the stupidity comes! --Petey

Why is there stupidity? Why are there trolls? Why is there Obama, Deepak Chopra, the MSM, Scientology, Keith Olbermann, Charles the Queeg, Lawrence Rosie O'Donnell, Bill Maher, the designated hitter rule?

Easy: because there is intelligence. Because there is intelligence, there is stupidity in all its varieties, including the intelligent stupidity of Marxism, socialism, deconstruction, existentialism, atheism, metaphysical Darwinism, radical feminism, climate changerism, you name it. Truth is one. Stupidity is legion.

Obviously, stupidity is a "privative phenomenon." Truth is what is, while error is what is missing, or what is disproportionately overemphasized, or what has no real possibility of ever being there at all. Therefore, while error can and will be present in our approach to truth, as Schuon writes, it cannot be derived from intelligence as such. Rather, since we are relative beings, our intelligence operates amidst other factors -- hopes, fears, dreams, wishes, resentments.

When intelligence goes astray, it is due either to the passions or the will; indeed, this is why one cannot detach the question of stupidity from that of sin, for sin is a kind of stupidity, while stupidity (as opposed to ignorance) is definitely a kind of sin. More problematically, there is unconscious passion and unconscious willfulness, AKA Mind Parasites with hidden agendas all their own.

Human beings are simply the "hosts" for these infrahuman agendas. While not derived from intelligence as such, the mind parasites are hardly unintelligent; like all viruses, they definitely learn their lessons, in particular, how to adapt to new circumstances in order to fool the host and his psychospiritual immune system. This is precisely how Obama was able to fool so many "sophisticated" and "intelligent" people, despite the fact that the truth was and is there for all to see.

To cite one particularly glaring example, there is the science of economics. And there is politics, or "political science." The former is the application of intelligence toward understanding the creation of wealth. The latter is the application of intelligence toward the acquisition of power (or perhaps we should say power misappropriating the intelligence).

These two uses of intelligence are at odds, which is where socialism come in. Socialism -- including Obamanomics -- is the application of the will to bend the science of economics toward the acquisition of power. As Mencken said, "a socialist is simply a man suffering from an overwhelming compulsion to believe what is not true."

Now, all varieties of relativism -- including most notoriously, the intrinsic stupidity of metaphysical Darwinism -- are not only impossible, but posit an impossible world. For example, existentialism -- which is really just relativism drawn out to its ultimate nihilistic implications -- "postulates a definition of the world that is impossible if existentialism is possible" (Schuon). How is that?

Simple. Either knowledge -- and therefore truth -- is possible, or it is not. If truth is possible, then surely it is objective and therefore "absolute in its own order." In fact, the cosmos is hierarchically ordered, with the Absolute at the "top," so to speak, but with lower degrees of reality, all in turn guided by their own "relative absolute."

For example, the very practice of any kind of science, whether physics, biology, or chemistry, is guided by relative absolutes that apply to the plane in question. But biology is not constrained by the laws of physics, any more than the spiritual ascent is constrained by the genes. Different, planes, different relative absolutes. My knowledge of truth is hardly limited by what natural selection supposedly permits me to know.

But once you invert the cosmos, then you have committed the cardinal sin of intelligence, for you have banished intelligence from existence. For such a person, intelligence is reduced to brain activity, brain activity is reduced to genes, genes are reduced to physics, and physics is reduced to.... nothing. And not the good kind.

Thus we insist: either God or nihilism. There is no in between. Or, to the extent that you believe there is, you are living in a self-made fantasy land, pure and simple.

Now, for the theist, there is most definitely a world between God and the nihil. We call it "the world." It is surely real. Just not the ultimate Real. But for the a-theist, "the world" is necessarily reduced to a manifest void.

Please understand that we are being quite literal here. As Scuon writes, any kind of a-theism can only involve "speculations in the void," i.e., no one thinking about nothing. Academic psychologists will assure you that the "self" is an illusion, just a side effect of brain activity, like urine to the kidneys. That being the case, there is no one to get all weewee'd up about nothing at all.

This is the lie that is hidden in plain sight that undergirds all forms of a-theism. The relativist never explains why he is a miraculous exception to his own irony-clad rule: "whence comes this demigiod who accuses, and whence his power to accuse?" (Schuon). For if he is correct, then surely man has the capacity to transcend his relative state and to know the truth of himself.

But what kind of beast is able to share in absolute truth? Only one kind: the kind who is in the image of the creator, the Absolute. Otherwise, the gap between matter and truth is -- and how is this not obvious? -- infinite and absolute.

To insist that the intellectual queegmire of metaphysical Darwinism is absolutely true is as absurd as saying that truth is derived from error, rather than vice versa. There is "no common measure" between a truth-bearing person "and the wholly contingent movement preceding it.... Man is what he is, or else he is nothing" (Schuon).

Yes, human beings may doubt, but only "because there is certainty." Likewise, "the very notion of illusion proves that man has access to reality." And to know reality is to be certain, beyond doubt. Thus, the certainty of faith is the vehicle on which we float upstream in this void called "the world."

Conversely, cynicism is the raft upon which the a-theist rides to his eternal destruction, which is simply cosmic stupidity by another name. Cling to it all you like, but you are like a man holding onto a boulder plummeting to the earth.

Meep meep!

(The Schuon quotes are from his Logic and Transcendence.)

74 Comments:

Blogger swiftone said...

Home run, first up to bat. Why is there stupidity? Because there is truth. Why is there ugliness? Because there is beauty. Why is the world unfair? Because there is justice.

Bang. Hit while sitting in the stands mid forehead with a line drive.

WF: lardog --- or fatty boombalatty? ouch. Name calling are we?

8/22/2009 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Cousin Dupree said...

... and why are there leftists?

8/22/2009 07:52:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

While not derived from intelligence as such, the mind parasites are hardly unintelligent; like all viruses, they definitely learn their lessons, in particular, how to adapt to new circumstances in order to fool the host and his psychospiritual immune system.

And sometimes, they can make one behave spectacularly stupidly.

Thank God for truth, and for grace. And for the ability to regain objectivity, with a little (or a lot of) assistance.

8/22/2009 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous will said...

>>And sometimes, they can make one behave spectacularly stupidly<<

heh, Julie . . o yeah, paticularly when it comes to anima-animus projection. Renders the otherwise strong and sane into shivering towers of jello.

8/22/2009 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous will said...

Or put another way:

"You are as whorish as ever
Baby you could start a fire
I must be losing my mind
You're the object of my desire"

Zimmie, from Together Through Life

8/22/2009 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

"For example, existentialism -- which is really just relativism drawn out to its ultimate nihilistic implications -- "postulates a definition of the world that is impossible if existentialism is possible" (Schuon). "

How that is missed by those who insist upon it... is simply amazing, asstounding... and of course, stupid.

"Academic psychologists will assure you that the "self" is an illusion, just a side effect of brain activity, like urine to the kidneys. That being the case, there is no one to get all weewee'd up about nothing at all."

Don't you just want to say to them "Says who?!"... from a safe distance of course.

8/22/2009 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

:)
Will - yes, exactly.

8/22/2009 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Obama's Socialist Stupidity, which "can't be rationalized on economic or medical grounds because it's not about that. It's about moving America left."

8/22/2009 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

"For example, the very practice of any kind of science, whether physics, biology, or chemistry, is guided by relative absolutes that apply to the plane in question. But biology is not constrained by the laws of physics, any more than the spiritual ascent is constrained by the genes. Different, planes, different relative absolutes. "

At the risk of sounding stupid, something about the wording there doesn't sit right, whether as written or as read, I'm not sure.

Each obeys... wrong word... is in harmony with... the laws of the other, but only because they are an aspect of the One law as expressed through their 'field'. Biology does follow the laws of physics, but it isn't limited to only those areas which concerns physics. Psychology doesn't violate any of the laws of biology, or chemistry, but is not limited to the scope of those fields, as it is concerned with issues above their pay grade... and so forth, etc... yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah.

Which... now that I look back at it... is what you said.

Ok, back to avoiding yard work.

8/22/2009 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous bobxxxx said...

"Why is There Stupidity?" asked the mentally retarded Christian full-of-shit asshole.

8/22/2009 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Ever seen an explosion in a cesspool? You have now.

8/22/2009 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Translation: I am right by definition. Everyone who disagrees with me has "mind parasites". I have constructed a closed system of thought that is impervious to argument, evidence, and reason. Oddly, my transcendentally beautiful insights into reality appeal only to a handful of dim-witted acolytes. It must be because everybody else is stupid.

8/22/2009 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I don't usually recommend self-diagnosis, but that is pretty spot-on.

8/22/2009 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Cousin Dupree said...

"Because the B'ob is, there is goddinpotty."

8/22/2009 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous BHO said...

These trolls are getting pretty weewee'd up!

8/22/2009 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous hoarhey said...

Gardenparty,
Bob's insights must also be attractive to you otherwise you wouldn't keep coming back, moron.
Translation:
He has the hooks set deep, he owns your dumb ass.

8/22/2009 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Oh joy, Bob has risen to a whole new level of sophistication.

8/22/2009 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Sitting Bull said...

If Schuon were alive, he would start Ramadan today. Where's the logic in that?

8/22/2009 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger debass said...

If Schuon were alive today, he would be trying to get out of his coffin.
I tried engaging a leftist last night at a gig. It can't be done. I couldn't break through that fantasy barrier of I hate the gov. but we need gov. health care to get rid of those bad insurance companies. I know I should not even try, because it always leaves me with a feeling of sorrow and desperation to see someone that can appreciate the truth and beauty of jazz but be completely oblivious to the failure of leftist ideology. I keep thinking, how can these people live their lives this way? It must be a living hell.

8/22/2009 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

If they could only draw out the metaphysical, economic, and political implications of jazz!

8/22/2009 02:30:00 PM  
Anonymous slackosopher said...

"Jazz is Freedom" -Thelonius Monk

8/22/2009 02:52:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

"A master jazz musician goes onto the stage hoping to have a rendezvous with music. He knows that the music is there (it always is), but this meeting depends not only on knowledge but on openness. It must be let in, recognized, and revealed to the listener, the first of whom is the musician himself." --Keith Jarrett

8/22/2009 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

"Sun Ra once said to me, 'Jacson, play all the things you don't know. You'll be surprised by what you don't know. There's an infinity of what you don't know.' Another time he said, 'You know how many notes there are between C and D? If you deal with those tones you can play nature, and nature doesn't know notes. That's why religions have bells, which all sound the transient tones. You're not musicians, you're tone scientists." --James Jacson

8/22/2009 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

"Each one of my numbers is just like a news item, only it's like a cosmic newspaper." --Sun Ra

8/22/2009 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Woo hoo -- check out the video.

"They're nihilists, Donny. Cowards. Amateurs." --Walter Sobchak

8/22/2009 03:45:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"Stay away from my kids!"

Ohhhh,
Semper Fi!

8/22/2009 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

"self-diagnosis" Ahahahahaha! "We hold these truths to be self-evident" just doesn't sit right with GIP. Hmmm, whyisthat?

8/22/2009 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Bob, were you surprised at what you didn't know this morning?

8/22/2009 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

No. Every morning.

8/22/2009 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Me neither.

8/22/2009 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Post, Bob. As usual it carries that special tang of Bob being holier than specified others, but other than that, it is intact.

I inquired after Petey the other day. No answer. Other racoons? Are you curious? Or is Petey a sacred cow of some kind?

Exactly who are what is Petey? He is being quoted rigt and left and nobody knows. Doesn't that srike you as leetle beet odd? Eh?

On the body of the post I will add there is a motive for all stupidities and that is fear.

The ego fears non-being. During childhood kids learn to feel insufficiet, a survival mentality sets in, and all manner of stupidity follows.

8/22/2009 09:09:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

aninnymouse said "...is..."

No.

8/22/2009 09:56:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Thanks again, Van, for the Richard Mitchell link. I finished "Graves," found it simultaneously hilarious and depressing, and now I want to read "Less Than Words Can Say."

8/22/2009 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Gazriel said...

goidinpotty said..."Translation: I am right by definition. Everyone who disagrees with me has "mind parasites". I have constructed a closed system of thought that is impervious to argument, evidence, and reason. Oddly, my transcendentally beautiful insights into reality appeal only to a handful of dim-witted acolytes. It must be because everybody else is stupid."

You must begin to ask yourself, my friend, why what Bob, or any human being, says, matters to you. Why are so emotionally invested in this? Are you dwelling in the embrace of God in this moment, and if you are, why is ANYONE able to pull you away from that Reality?

Untangle yourself from all thought forms with, or there will always be assholes in the world that can detract from your miraculous experience of Life. Existence is a Gift, so quit wasting your Gift in the fractured longng for approval of another.

8/22/2009 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Gazriel: thanks for what appears to be a polite, well-intentioned note.

As to why what Bob says matters -- are you saying it doesn't matter? Are you saying he doesn't actually believe the constant hate-filled bullshit he spouts, and that he doesn't want other people to believe it? Presumably that's not the case, so I can't see why it should be such a big mystery why I should care about it and want to expose and counter it.

I am also mystified why you think I am seeking approval from anyone here. If that were the case, I think I could find better ways to go about it.

8/23/2009 12:49:00 AM  
Blogger Magnus Itland said...

The world is full of disagreeable people, in the sense that one must disagree with them or compromise one's conscience.

If they appear regularly on TV, they get kind of hard to avoid, although I have solved the problem by Not Having TV. On the other hand, if they happen to rule your country, it is kind of hard to not notice them, and perhaps not wise either.

If, however, the disagreeable people write an obscure blog for a few friends and the curious passer-by, one needs a particularly strong motivation to stick with them and get upset on a daily basis.

8/23/2009 01:21:00 AM  
Blogger ge said...

[THE ART OF THE IMPROVISERS]

" ....for Tallini, this split attention was part of thinking, the part that made for improvisation in music. How strange, he thought, was the not-infrequent occurence of great musical talent without improvisatonal gifts! Whatever its merit, it missed the better part of the art. Benji would describe improvisation in terms of a decentered thinking that was often inconceivable to nonimprovisational minds--highly intellectualized minds in particular--and therefore subject to a gamut of misinterpretations. He thought he detected, in minds in which all concern for improvisation had been eliminated, a fundamental incapacity for a kind of freedom that was most essentially human. "Such nonparticipation," he maintained, "spells forfeiture of what is a uniquely human privilege. No animal improvises, no plant, no stone. The improviser must be aware of his improvising gesture at every continuous step of the improvisation. It is in the qualitative nature of this awareness that distinction resides. This is evidently not a concentrative effort, not a conceptual gathering as would be needed, for instance, in the case of a reading."

Tallini once told Benji that musicians characterize the nonimprovisational mind as reading: "He doesn't improvise, he only reads." Or perhaps, "He has to read." He explained that, unlike reading, improvisation does not gather in its own moments, the gathering occurs between those moments. It is a preparation consisting of all that is known, all that has been cognized, experienced, remembered, learned, and lived. Ideally, none of this is ever present in any detail at the time of improvisation. It exists as a totality, however, as the improviser, the individual, whatever makes him whole. "What makes him whole molds the flowing process," as Benji had interpreted his friend's description. "It is in such terms that language can be defined, as it is true that language is the paradigm of human unity. Not a unification by arrangements, concessions, laws, or even force, but a unity that springs from its own medium--this, always ideally, is within the reach of language alone."...

p. 163, BREAKING THROUGH, A NARRATIVE OF THE GREAT WORK [A. VANDENBROECK]

8/23/2009 04:43:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

GE -- you've... er... changed.

8/23/2009 04:55:00 AM  
Blogger Susannah said...

GIP, please notice you can't come up with a single reasoned response to this post. You claim it spews hate but cannot provide a single example. Perhaps you are projecting your frustration in having run up against Bob's descriptions of absolute truth. Clinging to what is good means first, acknowledging that you *can* know what is good because of the Eternal, then discerning between what is good and what is not. Relativists commonly construe discernment (good judgment) as hate. It's too tough-love for them, bespeaks of hard virtues rather than soft. But the activity is thoroughly scriptural.

8/23/2009 06:26:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Precisely. Leftists always hate, but imagine that the hate is coming from outside themselves. They are like children. When someone angers them, they think that the someone is as angry as they are. So it's also a kind of narcissism. Think of Skippy Gates -- he assumes that white people hate him just because he hates white people.

8/23/2009 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"Conversely, cynicism is the raft upon which the a-theist rides to his eternal destruction, which is simply cosmic stupidity by another name. Cling to it all you like, but you are like a man holding onto a boulder plummeting to the earth."

This post explains why the stupid want Acme healthcare.

Excellent, Bob!

8/23/2009 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Skully said...

Ain't acolyte a key ingredient of grog?
Kinda like electrolytes without the electros?

8/23/2009 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Skully said...

As Mencken said, "a socialist is simply a man suffering from an overwhelming compulsion to believe what is not true."

The power of heist compels you.

The Socialist Blahblahfesto

8/23/2009 07:12:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

"The power of heist."

That's a keeper! Should be Obama's mantra.

8/23/2009 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"Thus we insist: either God or nihilism. There is no in between. Or, to the extent that you believe there is, you are living in a self-made fantasy land, pure and simple."

People like Queeg are in the land of de nihilism.

8/23/2009 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Must be those acolytes in all the grog Skully drank.

8/23/2009 07:22:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

gulpingpotty:'Hatemongers! I hate you! (in a nice, accepting, non-judgmental way)'

Lol.

8/23/2009 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger Susannah said...

I'm in tears, guys. Ha!

8/23/2009 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Susannah said "Thanks again, Van, for the Richard Mitchell link."

Oh you're very welcome, so glad you're enjoying him. Not to suggest Mitchell should consume all your spare time, but "The Gift of Fire" is a great capper; he explores what right reasoning is and isn't, the sources of the intelligent fool, those who mistake problem solving for wisdom and who assume the wise, those who see right and wrong, to be fools unable to appreciate their many 'useful things',

"... In that respect, my friend is not a freak. He might better be thought a sleepwalker, moving about in the world, and getting all sorts of things done, often on time, and sometimes very effectively indeed. But the very power of routine habit by which he can do all that has become the only government that he knows. And the voices of his desires are loud. He is just now not in a condition to give his full attention to any meaning that might be found in all that he does, or to consider carefully how to distinguish between the better and the worse. He might be thought a child, and a perfectly natural child, who lives still in that curious, glorious haze of youth, when only desire seems worthy of obedience, and when the mighty fact of the world that is so very "there" looms immeasurably larger than the fact of the self that is in that world. He might grow up, and it is the "mightness" in him that makes him truly human, however he may look like a freak just now. From time to time, we are all just such freaks, and mindless, for mindlessness is the great background of noise out of which some few certain sounds can be brought forth and harmonized as music... "

(potty, maybe another reading might help you wake up)

8/23/2009 08:28:00 AM  
Blogger Joan of Argghh! said...

Ben, that phrase so deserves a "motivational poster" photo-shop. I wish I had the chops to do it justice!

8/23/2009 09:42:00 AM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Susannah,

You must be joking. Hate drips out of almost every post here. Here are some excerpts, chosen more or less at random


...the other hand, leftism promises you everything but liberty (except, of course, the liberty to murder your fetus, or sodomize your brother, or be a parasite on another man's productivity, etc.).

...one of the most prominent fascist God-haters of the left..o

...one of the main reasons why I despise the left is that they have no idea how precious this intersubjective commonality is...

...Conservatives tend to be individuals as opposed to the collective drone mentality of the leftist...

...The left is intrinsically violent, if for no other reason than they want to impose a gargantuan state that is by its very nature coercive...


All of these are hate-filled lies. You are being fed a distorted view of reality, based on grotesque levels of hate. Really, it's not good for you.

If you want a reason for why I comment here, you can use the Bible verse you yourself linked to.

8/23/2009 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

There are no things worthy of hate?
Perhaps we should remove that word from the dictionary.

8/23/2009 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Abortion is a hate filled lie?

8/23/2009 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Hellooooo!
Earth to Gippy!

8/23/2009 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

"Ben, that phrase so deserves a "motivational poster" photo-shop. I wish I had the chops to do it justice! "

(Joan, just in case you don't see tomorrow's comments today)

Not to worry, the fine folks at Despair.com have provided just such a tool so that you too can become a champion for de-motivation!

I've already spun one out... it's a simple pleasure.

"The Power of Heist Compels You!"

So many images to choose from!

8/23/2009 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Bob, there is no way Gippy isn't Ray. I can practically hear him giggling from his mom's basement.

8/23/2009 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Us: "1 is 1 and never 2 or any other number or quantity, and 2+2=4 and can in no way equal anything else; no other result can be granted any credibility."

potty: "Anti-diversity Hatemongers! "

8/23/2009 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Zactly, Van.
He has error guilt.

8/23/2009 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Gazriel said...

godinpotty said..."As to why what Bob says matters -- are you saying it doesn't matter? Are you saying he doesn't actually believe the constant hate-filled bullshit he spouts, and that he doesn't want other people to believe it? Presumably that's not the case, so I can't see why it should be such a big mystery why I should care about it and want to expose and counter it....I am also mystified why you think I am seeking approval from anyone here. If that were the case, I think I could find better ways to go about it."

What I am saying is that nothing is more important than spiritual realization. Truth doesn't exist on this plane of existence, or at least Truth that really matters. The only liberation needed is recognizing your place in the Mystery.

The reason I say that you are seeking approval from Bob is because you are, at least subconsciously. If you were a confident, stabilized, realized human entity that transcends space, time, body, and mind through the Highest identification then you would have zero need to argue truths of the relative world, at least with such obvious emotional investment.

You are emotionally invested in a story you have been programmed with, a story that has very little to do with the individual Liberation of the Soul in time. Your story is all about property rights, socialized medicine, wars, and IDEAS about what an awakened person looks like.

Truth defends itself. If what you see Bob saying strikes you as wrong in your heart, then follow that. If somebody told me that the sun revolves around the earth I wouldn't feel the need to battle them about it. Reality is reality, and either you are adjusted or you are not.

Now what is spiritual reality? It is beyond all mental and emotional identifications, I can tell you that. I can't speak to whether or not Bob means all the stuff that he says. What matters to me is Liberation. To give you an idea of my experience, I read Bob every single day and feel an incredible amount of devotion for him. I know in my heart of hearts that this man has transcended his animality through surrendered witnessing, and because of this has been Graced with a flow of Knowledge by the Almighty, or as Pearce says, has access to the field of creative play. Because I recognize this potential within myself, I regard Bob with the utmost respect and honor.

And yet I voted for Barak Obama. I think he is an alright dude for this time and place within the human body. I enjoy seeing him stand with his wife and kids, the fact that he struggles with smoking, and that he isn't flustered when people attack, doesn't take politics personally and tries to bring people together.

Bob very well may think that I am an idiot for saying such things, but I don't care. I still respect Bob as a creative, spiritually aware genius. See, I am an individual who can think for himself and question authority, while still submitting to Truth.

Start examining your mind. Own your shadow. Quit being such a liberal, fascist, crybaby who needs his momma to tell him everything about existence. Be a man for once in your life ya sissy, ya wimp, ya faggot. What, are you gonna lay around all your life, smoking dicks and drinking pink lemonade? Be a man for once in your life, and quit being such a queeg.

8/23/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Speaking of math and such. How much less should I hate abortion? 10%? Completely? 1%? a smidge?
Tomorrow can I be back up to 100%?
I want to get this right..

8/23/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Rick:

I don't recall Ray being so hateful. He was usually pretty polite.

8/23/2009 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Paul the apostle: hater.

8/23/2009 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Can't a guy devolve? I thought that was the other point.

8/23/2009 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Ricky said "...there is no way Gippy isn't Ray..."

Ricky, nyah... Ray does pop in from time to time, and identifies himself with a ref, but he always missed the point politely.

potty is much more in the vein of mtcraven... viciously denying the point.

But maybe we'll just have to leave it to future philologists to puzzle out as they poor over the unearthed Petey scrOlls....

8/23/2009 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I didn't think Ray was capable of either evolution or devolution, because he was so committed to a materialist ontology. Like a computer, he could download different data, but not really evolve.

8/23/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I think he is empty craven, because they're both so psychotically angry. They have the identical vibe.

8/23/2009 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Susannah said...

Spin it out, GIP. Meet you in the next comment thread, where you can explain to us in detail how wonderful and light-filled (and scriptural!) are abortion, sodomy, theft, collectivism, statism, and all those other virtues. Defend your accusation that to despise these things, which amount to the bondage of humanity to sin, is to be a hate-filled liar.

8/23/2009 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Also, the violent dis-understanding is so marked....

8/23/2009 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

My bad. I was thinking MT.

8/23/2009 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

When Jesus tore Peter a new one, I think you could make the argument that it was Satan he "attacked" and not Peter. Was Jesus hate-filled? I think it matters for how long and to what. Also, was Peter employing "love thy neighbor " incorrectly?

8/23/2009 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Gagdad said "I think he is empty craven..."

I've sorta assumed that for a while too, same hateful assaults on our positions combined with a refusal (aside from one laughably stupid attempt) and inability to define his own positions.

But, doesn't really matter... a turd by any other name, should be flushed just the same.

8/23/2009 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I have to agree with Godinpotty. Bob's blog IS a hate blog against the left. That's a fact. You can doll it up any way you want, but Bob hates, despises, and abhors the left.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. There is a useful place for a a hate blog against the left in cyberspace.

Can Bob be spiritual and write a hate blob at the same time?

Up to a point: Bob's hate does trap him at a certain level beyond which he will never rise, until he lets it go.

Bob spiritual growth has been stunted. His sacrifice to society, in that anti-left thought is probably a needed counterweight and is appreciated by this writer.

The reader of this blog can read and then turn her mind to other things, but Bob is steeped in his hate and has to sit with it, day in and day out. It is a tragedy.

Godinpotty alleges the blog is not good for people, and I would have to agree in principle. An overdose would be harmful. In small doses it is not, however.

The left does "brainwash" and influence people and this influence should be examined with a skeptical eye and Bob is one of the few who do this.

In this case, a relatively small amount of hate can be tolerated for the greater good in inculcates.

8/23/2009 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

aninnymouse said "...Well, I have to agree with Godinpotty. Bob's blog IS a hate blog against the left."

Ya know, there are several sites I've had the misfortune to surf across that, IMHO, were hate spewing cesspools on the net.

Personally, when I come across these foul places, I click away as quickly as I can. There's nothing there I want to be associated with, or participate in. Why do you linger and loiter and attempt to participate here?

There's a sickness there you might want to attend to.

On the other hand, you could just be stupid... I hate to be rude though.

8/24/2009 07:46:00 AM  
Blogger Joan of Argghh! said...

When trolls and other animals insist that there is no God, I feel it gives me full rein to treat them as though I agree. I will do my level best to provide all sorts of teachable moments as to what a godless environment looks like.

That's why it's useless for a troll to appeal to any morality, mercy, or even beautiful logic from me, because I will withhold every tender kindness in order to save a troll-soul. My clue-bat is there to comfort the troll and assure him that there is no appeal to silly religious conceits while he doesn't believe in them.

It is not hypocrisy on my part. It's applied academic insight.

Not hate. Tough love.

8/24/2009 07:59:00 AM  

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