Monday, August 17, 2009

Our First Black President?

I don't know if I'm quite ready to make the transition from fascism back to Maximus, especially because I'm pressed for timelesness this morning. It reminds me of Keith Jarrett, who says it takes him several months to switch from jazz to classical and then back to jazz. I wouldn't say it takes me several months to transition from the profane to the sacred, but at least several minutes.

But then again, the whole point of what we've been discussing is the sacred -- or pseudo-sacred -- nature of fascism. Like any counterfeit, it couldn't exist without the real thing. This is again one of Berman's central points, points that are lost on those who stand to most benefit from them, i.e., that fascism is a secular political religion that draws upon many of the same energies as real religion, except with a very different goal in mind. For the fascist, the state is god. It is the embodiment of the people, and the authoritarian leader is the incarnation of the state and the voice of the people.

This is why fascists always stress unity. For example, when American liberal fascists talk about diversity of race or ethnicity, they actually mean conformity of ideology: white Marxists, black Marxists, lesbian Marxists, transgendered Marxists, etc. By no means does this primitive diversity extend to black conservatives such as Thomas Sowell, Clarence Thomas, or Condi Rice, or conservative latinos such as Miguel Estrada or Speedy Gonzalez.

In the past, I have discussed this in terms of the two very different types of unity. If you want to get to the deepest deep structure of the enduring problem of fascism (a word which we probably shouldn't even use, because it obviously freaks out the fascists), this might be it, for it is really the distinction between the "absolute absolute" of God vs. the "absolute relative" of fascism, or scientism, or metaphysical Darwinism, or an other ism that pretends to be absolute.

At this point, I'm so short on time that I think I'll just republish the earlier post, but update and edit it to remove some of the less incendiary passages:

The difference between conservative liberals and reactionary leftists is that they worship different gods -- or more precisely, they have entirely incompatible understandings of the meaning of One. There is an irreconcilable distinction between these two Ones: there is a left One and a right One -- or more precisely, a higher One and a lower one.

In Meditations on the Tarot, our Unknown Friend uses a visual image to conceptualize the problem. Imagine two cones placed base to base, one pointing up, the other down. Thus, similar to Miss Anne Elk's groundbreaking theory of the brontosaurus, this object has one point at the top, a much thicker part in the middle, and then another point at the bottom. The image is UF's; it belongs to him, and he owns it. I'm just borrowing it.

Now, get the image of a brontosaurus out of your mind, and imagine this object as a sort of crystal. At the top is the “white point” where pure light -- which is the synthesis of, and potential for, all colors -- enters. As the light moves down toward the equator it becomes more and more differentiated into the various colors of the spectrum, until they reach their maximum degree of separation and intensity at the equator.

Moving further down, the colors begin to merge and blend until, at the bottom point, they once again lose all of their distinction. But here they become black, which represents the blending and confusion of all colors. As such, there is one sort of synthesis or Oneness above (the white point) but an entirely different kind of oneness below (the black point): O vs. Ø. So too are there different kinds of men at the summit and nadir. We call these ʘ and ⊗, respectfully and disrespectfully, respectively.

The white point is analogous to wisdom (also love, for reasons that are soph-evident), for it represents the underlying unity of all the different types of knowledge available at the equator. It is where the light of divine love breaks out into the maninfestation and where beauty is the splendor of the true: "All that is true, by whosoever spoken, is from the Holy Spirit" (St. Ambrose).

In contrast, at the equator, all of the individual colors represent various disciplines and sciences, which appear separate but cannot actually be, on pain of cosmic incoherence and therefore no cosmos at all, only a chaosmos. If there is any truth, there is All Truth as its sponsor. This you must know, my children.

This image symbolically discloses the central purpose of this blog and of my book, both of which are mine and belong to me. Indeed, this is what I was hoping to convey in the book's full title: One Cosmos Under God: The Unification of Matter, Life, Mind and Spirit. (I would have called it One Cosmos Under O, but you have to read the book in order to know about O.) That is, the synthesis of all our seemingly contradictory truths lies “above,” toward the white light of wisdom and love, not below, swallowed up in the black point of matter and tenure.

If two seemingly contradictory things are true -- say, the Book of Genesis and the theory of evolution -- then their common source of truth must be found above, not below. There is surely a way to resolve the contradiction, but not by finding an "integral compromise" between the two at the equator, much less by simply confusing and blending them together below. This is why we are not an "integralist." Rather, we are an absolutist, and the integrity takes care of itself. But by no means could one ever begin with the parts and then integrate them into the Absolute. This would be folly, since the whole is not only prior to the parts, but is their very ground and possibility.

For example, teaching intelligent design as an adjunct or alternative to natural selection is simply adding another color to the equator. Even worse, teaching it as the only truth would take both the Creator and science down to the black point, merging and blending science and metaphysics in an unWholesum way. The whole point is that metaphysics is not an adjunct to science, but its very context, and without which it has no meaning whatsoever. None.

In fact, this is what is done in the Islamic world. Yes, they have intellectual and spiritual unity there, but it is the bad unity of the black point: One Nation Under God’s Hobnailed Sandal, so to speak. The identical thing happens in the secular totalitarian world of the left, where diversity of thought is not permitted. What we want is to allow maximum diversity but to synthesize it at higher level, not eliminate it on a lower one: this is the meaning of One Cosmos Under God. (And again, "synthesize" may be misleading, since this unity is not actually a synthesis, being that it is prior to separation; and yet, no synthesis of any kind would be possible in the absence of this prior unity.)

Ironically, the secular left in America regard their fellow religious citizens as an incipient Taliban who wish to enforce a black-point unity, when the opposite is true (allowing of course for a handful of religious fascists who no doubt exist). We wish to liberate man from the cramped mayaplicity of the equator into the spacious unity at the top. It's what liberals do. We liberate.

But for the secular left, there is no white point above or black point below. Rather, there is only the equator, where we all live in our beautiful, diverse cultures and subcultures, none better than any other: multiculturalism, moral relativism, no objective or "privileged" truth. And yet, multiculturalism and diversity are enforced from on high, despite the fact that the left supposedly does not recognize the existence of morally superior cultural perspectives.

Nowhere is this more evident than in their bullying efforts to redefine marriage. A command economy is bad enough, but a command culture is even worse. The left is all about dictating the nature of culture, but this is to destroy culture, being that culture is an organic, interior unity that grows from the ground up over a period of centuries. True, there is a "top-down" aspect of culture, but that has to do with the preservation of vertical energies, not with the purely egoic dictates of spiritually untutored leftists.

In reality, the left is enforcing their absolute black point god, but simply denying it. They don't really care what culture you're from, so long as you are absurdly committed to diversity as an end in itself, and intolerant of any other view. This is nothing less than the unwholly god of the black point flexing its tenured muscle while pretending to be just another beautiful color in the rainbow. For example, Deepak Chopra, a major Obama supporter and one of the most prominent fascist God-haters of the left, believes that only people with secular values should even be allowed to vote:

"There never will be, and never should be, a religious reason to pick one candidate over another.... In an ideal world that would never happen. Supernatural beings aren't citizens.... To anyone who holds a serious regard for the Constitution, voting your faith should be a private matter, not a public one.... There's an urgent need, as Obama recognizes, to heal the fracture lines. The electorate will be healthier if he can undo bitter partisanship, and God can go back to knowing everything but not pulling a lever in the voting booth."

Never mind that Obama has spent the vast majority of his adulthood in a bitterly partisan, racist, paranoid, and delusional religious cult. He'll unify us! And never mind that the Constitution specifically forbids the state from interfering with the freedom of religion.

The left has gradually eroded the unifying power of our shared culture. They are ashamed of our Americanism, and would prefer that we all be sophisticated "internationalists," which is again to have no culture at all. In the 11.03.08 National Review, Michael Knox Beran writes of how the postmodern anticulture fails "to give people the tools they need to amalgamate disparate experience and perceive what the Greeks called the 'wholeness' of life." Instead, the alienated secularist "seeks consolation in various and always inadequate intellectual and spiritual opiums on sale in the philosophical markets," from bloodless scientism to intoxicated Obamism and everything in between. Obama's "healer-redeemer qualities" attract the irreligiously religious, but seriously creep out the rest of us.

In reality, there is no absolute system at the equator that can synthesize knowledge and explain our existence. There is only diversity and contradiction there, which is as it should be. Otherwise there would be no creation, nothing separate from the Creator. However, it is only the white light above that illuminates and unites everything below. We must maintain an allegiance to the absolute white light that is reflected in all the relative truths at the equator, not to this or that relative or half-truth enforced absolutely by leftist medullards from below. For that is how the beautiful rainbow devolves into a ugly and dictatorial reignbelow.

Only in this sense will Obama be our first truly black president, being that he will be the first to have lived his entire life within the black point of the left. Everything that comes out of his ghastly piehole betrays his allegiance to this sinister god of secular nihilism.

As UF writes, "Peace is unity in diversity. There is no peace where there is no diversity, and there is no peace when there is only diversity." Do you see the (white) point?

Importantly, the peace at the white point above is not Christian peace per se, because it transcends the creation (and the [L] link between creator and creation). Yes, it is possible to detach from the herebelow and drown oneself in transcendental nirvanic peace, just as it is possible to detach in the other direction and enforce the false hegemonic peace of the Islamists or the false nihilistic peace of the left (remember, both Isl'am and t'enure mean "surrender"). These are not really points of peace, but rather of the "death of diversity and the conflicts that diversity can produce." Ironically, only at the equator is real peace possible, the peace that passes understanding because it unifies from above. This is the peace that oversees our understanding.

The Hermit "knows how to say 'no' to the tendencies aiming at false peace -- those of transcendental indifference, subjugation and nihilism -- just as he knows how to say 'yes' to everything which aims at the true peace of unity in diversity."

So, just say yes to nobama, or no to Øbama. Better yet, just be ʘ to ⊗.

Oh, and the new symbol for fascism? How about .


Blogger julie said...

Hah -  fails.

8/17/2009 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous slackosopher said...

In case one was not is the 50th Anniversary of Miles Davis' "Kind of Blue". Released August 17, 1959.

A good day to listen to pure Genius.

8/17/2009 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"Our First Black President"

Finally, a non-racial identification of the man.

8/17/2009 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Morris Berman? Never heard of him, but I often think of Marshall Berman when I read stuff by you nutballs. Conservatism is essentially driven by unhappiness with modernity. The unhappiness, god knows, is justifiable, but the response is pathological. Conservatives attributes all the bad shit of the last few hundred years to some demonic figures (leftists) and spins a fantasy of an earlier golden age to return to. The real difference between today's Democrats and Republicans is that the Dems are grappling with the world of today and the Reps are selling panic and a soothing fantasy of the past.

Like most of Bob's posts this one contains nuggets of truth and then drives off into the weeds because of his blind hatreds. The state does indeed take on religious signficance in the modern era, and (actual) fascists do take this to an extreme level. But tell me -- in the US, which side gets riled up over "flag desecration"? You can't desecrate something unless it's sacred to begin with. Which side engages in mindless worship of the military? Which side regards the Constitution as sacred and inviolable (rather than the modifiable document it was intended to be)? Which side believes in an American exceptionalism that declares that the motivations of US power are purer and more moral than those of other nations? Which is the greater sacralization of the state -- trying to bring about universal access to health care, or declaring that the state is in a crusade against "evil"?

It never ceases to amaze me how you manage to get bits of actual insight mixed up with so much crap. Unfortunately, a ham and shit sandwich is going to be taste mostly of shit.

8/17/2009 01:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The bad shit of the last two hundred years" is directly traceable to the uber-communist "capitalists", the Rockefellers and the Morgans and the Rothschilds, so "demonic figures" are indeed to blame. Conservatism is essentially driven by belief in conspiracy, in that it pits the "conspiracy of love" against the "conspiracy of satan", so I suppose your would be right in saying that we are unhappy that there is conspiracy afoot to destroy the world and hand it over to a bunch of international bankers.

The fact that the Constitution requires AMENDING before you can change it, shows how true conservatives see the sacredness of the law, without which there is only violence (and intellectual violence is the method of the left nowadays--i.e. "fraud").

It is the "neo-conservative" movement of disillusioned leftists who worship the military, because they know that war is a method of manipulating society; our founding fathers encouraged a strong national defense but no foreign entanglements, so true conservatives are against the pseudo-conservatives you mention.

Bob is generally near-perfect when it comes to principles--he only sometimes doesn't get the facts, because facts, after all, are the least certain and the most difficult to get. So, if you want to educate him on how Bush's war in Iraq was unconstitutional because it occurred without a congressional declaration of war, I could agree with you, but as you are just blindly criticizing him when he's one of the smartest non-intellectually-blind persons I know, perhaps you should read Bob's book before you go criticizing him all wholesale like you don't know the difference between a specified target and a barn door.

8/17/2009 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

yep, adamantine...

8/17/2009 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger ge said...

"Kind of Blue" augments perfectly a rainy gloomy day/nite--- where 'Filles de Kilimanjaro' seems a better all-purpose spin to me

8/17/2009 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I'm partial to the second great quintet, with Shorter, Hancock & Williams. In fact, I'm listening right now....

8/17/2009 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

The Founders did not intend the Documents be modified by subhumans; those who could not recognize the sacred; people who would put God in the potty. How cute. What courage.
They, the best of the best, realized what they tried to put into words was greater than themselves.

8/17/2009 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Northern Bandit said...


Do you ever re-read some of the things you write here? Do you have the faintest idea how twisted and intellectually vacuous you sound every time?

Why are you here?

Really, goddinpotty, why?

Does it make you feel good to attack the vastly intellectually superior Godwin on a daily basis? And I mean vastly superior. There have been a few trolls from time to time who showed intellectual chops. You are NOT one of them. You are boring as hell, and I'll wager have not had the slightest impact whatsoever on anyone who reads this blog, save to reinforce their conviction that there are some truly benighted people out there whose sole talent consists of consistency.

Actually, strike that. The more you reveal of yourself here, the more overwhelmingly obvious it becomes that a former leftist like Bob is dead-on accurate about current leftists like you.

"Current" is the operative word. You're a dipshit now, but lots of us were once. You can always turn on the light.

8/17/2009 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Northern Bandit said...

By the way, there are hundreds of thousands -- perhaps millions -- of former leftists who have recovered and are now classical liberals. I know at least a dozen myself. Last night I had dinner with a former socialist who is now studying theology at the Vatican.

I know there is a handful of examples of "conversions" in the other direction, but not many. Any 'coons ever come across anyone who basically discoontinued sanity?

8/17/2009 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Petey said...


It is not primarily error, but illness. Once you realize this, you may learn from him in a disinterested manner, for "what is a bad man but a good man's teacher?"

8/17/2009 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Coony McTypical said...

Anyone who disagrees with Bob is a troll! Trolls are stupid! We are all extremely intelligent! Especially Bob! We have a secret that no one else is smart enough to understand! Hitler!

8/17/2009 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Ricky Racoon:
The Founders did not intend the Documents be modified by subhumans

Probably not. At the time of the Founders there were a number of classes of people considered less than fully human (blacks, native americans) and were not given full politcal rights. That's one of the things that has been fixed, at least in law if not in reality.

those who could not recognize the sacred; people who would put God in the potty.

I was hoping that the spiritually advanced souls around here would have figured out what my 'nym means and where it comes from by now, but sadly not. There's always Google. In any case, if God is everywhere he is already in the potty, and in the wretched writings on this blog, and many other foul places as well.

8/17/2009 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous slackosopher said...

Goddinpotty revealed!!

8/17/2009 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger ge said...

re: slacko:
Win Again's Fake!
who new?
there's not much that's not in there

...last night I dreamed that Chris from Talking Heads sat next to me explaining the incredible intractable grudge held by the Allman Brothers manager for them....reason: CBGB had once booked the Heads for a whole weekend but the Brothers for just one night! So when Chris once knocked on the manager's door the dude fired a shotgun right next to his head, to shock not shoot---THAT's a big grudge alright. [i had caught some Duane slide passing a car in a driveway yesterday; i am-was a pal of CF...]

8/17/2009 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

And yet amazingly, I find I really don't care.

Anyway, back to .

8/17/2009 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

(sorry, ge - that was in reference to gp:)

8/17/2009 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Ha! You really touched a nerve or two in goddinpotty, Bob.

He has gone from passive aggressive to aggressive blase.
A Kos kid redux, with talking points included.

He thinks he is armed with facts but instead he's just wearing a cluelesside belt.

8/17/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Figures you thought that’s what I meant by subhuman. The first thing that comes to your mind. No one should be surprised.
I meant people who willingly lower themselves below what is worthy of humans.
How dare you, jackass.
Sorry. I mean, ill jackass.

8/17/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Whater you doin up at this hour?

8/17/2009 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

I only know personally maybe one convert to conservative other than me, and some of you guys. I think some don’t want to talk about where they came from once they arrive. Unlike ex-smokers. Just a theory. You're fortunate.
Never met in person or in print anyone that went the other way. I would say they weren't genuine to start.

8/17/2009 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Skully said...


The Secret is self evident. Problem is, you ain't yerself.

Skully wizdum 77.

8/17/2009 06:28:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Hiya Buddy!

This is an unusual time for me.
I like to mix it up every once n' awhile. :^)

Good to see you!

8/17/2009 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"Never met in person or in print anyone that went the other way. I would say they weren't genuine to start."

I cooncur, Rick. Unfortunately, there's a few people that call themselves conservative but never were actual conservative/classical liberals.
Colin Powell comes to mind, and the "elite" republican wackademics.

Good Rickservation!

8/17/2009 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Good to see you too, Cap'm!

8/17/2009 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Northern Bandit:
there are ...former leftists who have recovered and are now classical liberals. I know at least a dozen myself. Last night I had dinner with a former socialist who is now studying theology at the Vatican.

The Vatican being a well-known hotbed of classical liberalism, of course.

This would be the same Vatican that explicily condemned the very principles of classical liberalism that the Founders (who you folks were worshipping just minutes ago) wrote into the Constitution, such as freedom of speech and religion? Or have you redefined "classical liberal" to mean something opposite to what everybody else means by the term? I guess I do not have the intellectual chops to keep up with the shifting and indeterminate meanings of your terminology.

From which totally false idea of social government they do not fear to foster that erroneous opinion, most fatal in its effects on the Catholic Church and the salvation of souls, called by Our Predecessor, Gregory XVI, an "insanity," viz., that "liberty of conscience and worship is each man's personal right, which ought to be legally proclaimed and asserted in every rightly constituted society; and that a right resides in the citizens to an absolute liberty, which should be restrained by no authority whether ecclesiastical or civil, whereby they may be able openly and publicly to manifest and declare any of their ideas whatever, either by word of mouth, by the press, or in any other way." But, while they rashly affirm this, they do not think and consider that they are preaching "liberty of perdition;" and that "if human arguments are always allowed free room for discussion, there will never be wanting men who will dare to resist truth, and to trust in the flowing speech of human wisdom; whereas we know, from the very teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ, how carefully Christian faith and wisdom should avoid this most injurious babbling."

8/17/2009 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Skully said...


I may be a nutball, butt at least I got cajones, unlike you lefty metrosexuals who ride feminazi defined male guilt to eunichopia.

8/17/2009 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

GIP will enjoy “went the other way”.
My gift to him.
I'm a giver.

8/17/2009 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Skully. My hero.

8/17/2009 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Hey, GIP.


8/17/2009 06:49:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...


8/17/2009 06:49:00 PM  
Blogger Warren said...

I don't know about anybody else here, but godinpotty is starting to freak me. I think I've wandered into a "Twilight Zone" episode in which I've met an alternate version of myself - a version that has stayed exactly the way I was in college. For inkstands:

- GP takes his name from "Finnegans Wake". (I got it a long time ago, GP - we must have even read the same book about FW. You know, the one that points out specifically what a great pun "godinpotty" is. It's one of the standard reference works, can't remember which one just now).

- When searching for a truly crushing riposte, GP quotes pseudo-profundities from Pynchon's "Gravity's Rainbow" (my other favorite book in college before I outgrew it).

- GP has some kind of spiritual leanings (else why troll at One Cosmos?). I'm guessing that these lean heavily towards Eastern religions, which probably seem more "cosmic" and more "scientific" than the "primitive" and "narrow" Judaeo-Christian tradition which he most likely "outgrew" as an adolescent, but of which he actually knows nada damn thing. Lots of Alan Watts books on your shelves, GP?

- Politically, GP is full of half-digested, vague leftist platitudes which seem to coincide with his equally vague spiritual leanings. Naturally, all the same books that spout the latter also tend to spout the former (see Alan Watts again). In fact, this is the key to his growing belligerence: GP is baffled and angered to find someone like Bob, who is a mystic AND a conservative. He never knew such types existed, or were even possible.

For me, this is like looking into a mirror into the past. I don't even want to know what kind of music GP listens to. I'm already spooked enough.

8/17/2009 07:02:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

There but for the (↓) of O.

8/17/2009 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Although I'm pretty sure he's a college student. Either that, or a closed head injury has sadly arrested him at that developmental stage forever.

8/17/2009 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger Warren said...

Oh yeah, I forgot the other resemblance to my college-age self: GP is well above average in intelligence, but no more than that. However, his somewhat esoteric literary and spiritual studies have unfortunately convinced him that he is actually quite special and gifted; probably a near-genius, or even...

If my own experience is any guide, then the pokes at his intelligence which GP insists on calling down upon himself here are generating serious adolescent rage within him, masked by a heavy layer of sneering contempt. (I say "adolescent" in reference to GP's inner age, not his physical age, which of course I do not know, nor want to know.)

8/17/2009 07:13:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

What sorta puzzles me the most about died in the drool leftists is that they can't even grasp horizontal truth's.

I mean, there's virtually a mountain of evidence that proves socialism is destructive, but lefties are blind to it.

They always think that THIS TIME they can change reality.
And they never realize that when liberty is taken away, destruction and tyranny always follows.

It truly is pathological.

8/17/2009 07:23:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...


Yes. The confident arrogance of his ignorance is really astounding. A little intelligence is a dangerous thing. Bion again talked about the pathological triumvirate of arrogance, stupidity, and contempt in the disordered personality. Check, check, and check. Obama has the same thing.

8/17/2009 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...


Arrested developement explains a lot about Gippy.

8/17/2009 07:26:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I mean, imagine someone who thinks that people who champion the free market don't believe in change, when the free market has wrought the most revolutionary changes in mankind's history!

It's crazy, that's all.

8/17/2009 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"A little intelligence is a dangerous thing. Bion again talked about the pathological triumvirate of arrogance, stupidity, and contempt in the disordered personality. Check, check, and check. Obama has the same thing."

He shoots and scores! That's a Ho!zinger right there.
I reckon that triumvirate effectively blocks any nous or gnosis, let alone empirical truths.

Change! without any coherent vision. What do the wise saints n' mystics know? Yes we can!

Leftism is a cult that never fosters creative or critical thinking. In fact, it's a heresy to question leftism.

8/17/2009 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

As you might imagine, such people are almost impossible to help in therapy, because they turn it into an occasion to contemptuously triumph over the therapist and demonstrate the omnipotence of their mind parasites. They win and therefore lose.

8/17/2009 07:38:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"This is why fascists always stress unity. For example, when American liberal fascists talk about diversity of race or ethnicity, they actually mean conformity of ideology: white Marxists, black Marxists, lesbian Marxists, transgendered Marxists, etc"

Aye! The unity they want can only be Marxist in nature. Ironically, they are always busy pointing out (and causing) divisions and blaming the white man, of course.
Without leftists, racism would be virtually non-existent in America.

8/17/2009 07:41:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Obama is a transparent bullshitter. He's gotten this far in life because no one's ever called him on it. And one of the reasons no one's ever called him on it is because he's black. Thus, he is a victim of liberal racism.

8/17/2009 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Gagdad Bob said...
As you might imagine, such people are almost impossible to help in therapy,.."

Yes, unless they admit that they have a problem (and exercise their long dormant humility) they are just like drug addicts, looking for their next fix.
Because they can control it.

They shoot up fantasy and call it reality (that's quite a high, man), but like heroin it will ruin their lives, but worse than that, it will erode their very souls.

And yet Grace abides...looking for a chink in the armor of pride and arrogance leftists cloak themselves in.

8/17/2009 07:48:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Bob said-
"He's gotten this far in life because no one's ever called him on it."

I cooncur. He is the first affirmative action powered by a false white guilt President.
And he's in waaay over his head.

As we expected, Obama is far worse than even Carter was.
I don't think it's too early to say Obama will be the worst President we ever had.
He's certainly the only President that constantly denigrates Americans abroad.

Dhimmi-President is a more accurate description.

8/17/2009 07:55:00 PM  
Blogger Warren said...

>> A little intelligence is a dangerous thing.

Beware, for fiends in triumph laugh
O'er him who learns the truth by half!

-- C. Patmore

8/17/2009 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Gagdad said "A little intelligence is a dangerous thing. Bion again talked about the pathological triumvirate of arrogance, stupidity, and contempt in the disordered personality."

Not to mention evasion, the real empty core of their thoughts. Their motive purpose is to pretend and assert that what they want to be is more relevant than what they know (as only a liar can know it - and deny it) to be.

Case in point? After this Fri-Sat & Sunday's posts, aninny and potty could only insult and make factually unsupportable claims, but could not make a single argument, could not refute a single point, could not explain one single 'principle' of the left which supported rather than undermined and denied liberty and freedom.

The best they can do is repeat what someone else asserted... pathetic.

They make feeble attempts at mocking and insulting, make claims up the ying-yang... but explain their positions? Support their arguments?

Nope. Nothing there. And they know it. It burns.

So... there only other option, pretend that it didn't happen, and move onto the next insult and ride it until they can't avoid explaining themselves again... and then... ignore that and move on to the next insult.

Insult... without ainment.


8/17/2009 08:10:00 PM  
Blogger Warren said...

>> Obama will be the worst President we ever had.

Not sure about that - we've had some pretty awful ones. But without doubt, Obama is the most ignorant President we've had in my lifetime (as Bob pointed out recently). Dubya, though inarticulate, was a veritable titan of knowledge compared with Obama (not that that's saying much).

8/17/2009 08:16:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Bob, do you think Obama will have a breakdown? He doesn't seem built to withstand what's happening to his image.

8/17/2009 08:22:00 PM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

I seem to remember you suggesting maybe this when you said a long time ago "I don't want to be around when it happens."

8/17/2009 08:24:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

You know, I have no idea. He's so guarded, no one knows him. The most intimate thing about him -- the so-called autobiography -- was ghostwritten. When someone is that fundamentally dishonest, you don't have the usual facts to work with. On the one hand, he could be an extraordinarily resilient sociopath. On the other, a brittle narcissist. But he's not normal by any stretch.

8/17/2009 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

From the Northstar link-
"Turns out Barack Obama doesn’t really know very much about anything, a fact that is troubling enough by itself. But when you combine it with his apparent conviction that he should be put in charge of regulating all these things he knows nothing about, and then you add in his talent as a first-rate bullshitter – you end up with the most ignorant guy in the room making the decisions for the rest of us."

As Bob said in past posts, Obama is indeed an empty suit.
Will he ever realize it, or will he continue to fool himself intoi thinking he's competent?

I notice he seems much more unhinged when things (Obama's healthscare plan) don't go his way.
He's not used to not getting his way.
Perhaps we will begin to see some outright tantrums as his popularity descends.

8/17/2009 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Yes, when someone has spent most of their life in academia -- especially when they're black -- they're just not used to someone letting them know that they're full of shit. Most of them think the same thing. The only people who are ostracized are the conservatives, which is why they're the only ones who learn how to argue. It's the same reason why liberal talk radio doesn't work. They just don't know how to think.

8/17/2009 08:38:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

As such, there is one sort of synthesis or Oneness above (the white point) but an entirely different kind of oneness below (the black point): O vs. Ø. So too are there different kinds of men at the summit and nadir. We call these ʘ and ⊗, respectfully and disrespectfully, respectively."

That sounds so good I hadta repeat it.

However, Obama doesn't seem to have the class to deal effectively with disrespect or scorn.
BTW, that disrespect isn't for the office of President but rather for the bullshit ideas the bullshitter currently occupying it has revealed.

When regular folks sense that bullshit they tend to get angry and rightfully so.
Our representive (Baird) decided to cancel his townhall meetings rather than deal with it and called us conservatives "brownshirts" with a "lynch mob mentality" to boot.

We live in one of the few conservative counties in Washington state.

Since then he has "apologized" in the usual democrat nonapologetic way, and I predict he won't get reelected.

Anyway, the regular folks are now opn guard, and they ain't about to put up with more bullshit.
That doesn't bode well for a professional bullshitter like Obama.

8/17/2009 08:47:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

He certainly won't handle it with the same grace and class as George Bush, who never lashed back or became paranoid, unlike Obama.

8/17/2009 08:48:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"It's the same reason why liberal talk radio doesn't work. They just don't know how to think."

There's no wit or humor to their insults (as Van mentioned, no "ainment").

Err America failed because they were in full rant mode featuring bitterness and contempt all the time, along with obvious indoctrination.

No funny. No insultainment. No interesting ideas. No coherence. Even people on the left dislike that stuff, in general.

I think that's one reason they hate Rush Limbaugh so much, because they can't deny that he's at least entertaining, and it angers leftists that they have no radio talk jocks that even come close to Rush, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, etc..

8/17/2009 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Gagdad Bob said...
He certainly won't handle it with the same grace and class as George Bush, who never lashed back or became paranoid, unlike Obama.

Good point, Bob. I recall something you said in some past posts about nobility, and how the left doesn't have it.
Perhaps they subconciously fuel their anger because they know it deep down?

It's been awhile since I thought of any democrats as noble or having class.

Zell Miller comes to mind and Patrick Moniyhan. Are there any currently in Congress? I can't think of any.

8/17/2009 09:10:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

From the link Julie provided at American Digest:

"It had to happen, of course, since any staffer in the White House who actually got the email from forwarded to his or her terminal would quickly see they were in charge of The Inbox from Hell!

Pity, if you can, the hapless Obama apparatchik assigned to track and forward the snitches and the bitches of Every Outlook check would result in an unending staccato cascade of BING-BING-BING-BING!.
The staffer would soon learn the terrifying meaning of the World War II battle alarm, INCOMING!"

Ha ha! I got quite a chuckle outta that, Julie. :^)

8/17/2009 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous goddinpotty said...

Warren: If my own experience is any guide, then the pokes at his intelligence which GP insists on calling down upon himself here are generating serious adolescent rage within him, masked by a heavy layer of sneering contempt.

Why on earth would I feel rage? My intelligence is what it is, your opinion of it means nothing to me. I think you're projecting.

Some disappointment, to be sure. You people seem incapable of making a coherent argument, preferring to shriek, bluster, and resort to constant ad hominem attack. So I ask myself why I'm wasting my time. Does that cheer you up any?

8/17/2009 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

Vanderleun shoots & scores :)

8/17/2009 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

I actually agree with you GIP when you say "why should I waste my time?"

I mean, obviously your super-human intelligence is lost on us. Raccoons just don't respond well to your particular brand of boring contemptuousness. You know, been there, done that.

Perhaps you can find better luck on a Margeret Cho thread, where the commenters are more in toon with your vast intellect.
Just sayin'.

8/17/2009 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Johan@Kaffepaus said...

If you have not seen this, try to do it:

Nazis: The Occult Conspiracy, it's a Discovery Channel documentary.

8/18/2009 05:11:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

gulpingpotty said "You people seem incapable of making a coherent argument, preferring to shriek, bluster, and resort to constant ad hominem attack. "

Does that cheer me up? Coming from you? Of course it does, it's hilarious!

8/18/2009 05:12:00 AM  
Blogger QP said...

What's a nose for?

You know sometimes
I can smell something cooking,
I can tell there's going to be a feast.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue,
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung.
Good intentions can be evil,
Both hands can be full of grease.
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace.

-Bob Dylan

8/18/2009 05:12:00 AM  
Blogger Warren said...

>> Does that cheer you up any?

Not at all, GP. As my own past self, I can't help but feel some affection for you - I think you've got promise. Even if you can't buy Bob's politics - and as an orthodox Catholic, I'm not always perfectly in line with his libertarianism myself - I suggest that you hang around for the metaphysical discussions, if only as a lurker. Bob's book recommendations alone are worth the price of admission.

8/18/2009 05:22:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

christophe said "not even different genders"

I can think of some who have evolved ahead of the rest of us.

8/18/2009 06:00:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

uhmmm... of course he said it last May... but it's never to late to reply.


8/18/2009 06:03:00 AM  
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