Monday, July 07, 2008

Memo to God: It's Not You I Want, I'm Just Lookin' For My Mind

One of the great ironies of the Darwinist argument is the insistence that materialists have a monopoly on truth and therefore intelligence. Now, I don't have to remind the reader that materialism is just as much a religion as any other; or, to be exact, it is just like a religion, only smaller. For to think that one could ever replace a real religion with a manmade one is to not know what religion is, and to therefore make oneself stupid, precisely.

Any form of materialism -- including reductionistic Darwinism -- is just a manifestation of "intelligent stupidity." Obviously, academia is pervaded by varieties of intelligent stupidity. So too are LGF, dailykos, huffpo, or any other beachhead of bovinity, whether "right" or "left." For the former ultimately reduces to the the latter, being that the first principle of true conservatism is awareness of the transcendent order to which man owes his primary allegiance and which is his reason for being, while the first principle of leftism is that there is no transcendent order, and that matter is All.

I apparently have to remind some readers that our dispute can never be with science per se, nor any banal "scientific finding" either. Rather, it is precisely with this covert transformation of science into a pseudo-religion, which then has the effect of rendering the person who believes in it stupid.

For this is the descent from intellect to mere intellectualism, the latter of which is rooted in pride rather than conformity to truth. One cannot really simultaneously be proud and a lover of truth. Truly, science is one of the glories of man -- a claim that no mere scientist could ever make, being that glory is a transcendent category irreducible to any material explanation. In other words, scientific truth glorifies the Divine Mind, not the mind of the scientist who denigrates mind to begin with. This should be obvious to all.

Speaking of which, this reminds me that a few months back, I was tagged in one of those internet meme games, but never responded. The question was, "why do you love Jesus?" My case may be a peculiar one, but it is because he saved my mind.

I don't want to get to sidetracked here, but bear in mind that I am speaking not just of Jesus per se, but of "the mind of Christ," i.e., the eternal Word in all its diverse and saving manifestations. In this regard, I may be using the word more lucely than a traditional Christian may be comforterble with, but I am referring to that celestial light which illuminates both mind and world, neither of which can comprehended on their own level. Which also goes to the issue of why it would be absurd to suggest that I could be some sort of guru or such, a charge that trolls inevitably throw out from time to time. For if I were to do that, I would be no better than the confused materialist who claims truth for himself.

Put it this way: a Raccoon is a lover of truth and a seeker after wisdom. I am so grateful to the light-filled teachers who helped to lift my mind out of the bog of materialism and other errors, that I can never repay them -- except perhaps by freely passing along what they freely passed into me. I love them and I always will. This is not any kind of mere fideism or sentimentalism, but is rather a sort of "continuous miracle" that takes place in my head, of all places. I am reminded of the Merle Haggard song, I'm Looking For My Mind:

'Cause I lost my mind the day I lost your love
I'm not crazy, but sometimes I wish I was
If you turn around and find me crawling close behind
It's not you I want, I'm lookin' for my mind


Sometimes I wonder if the trolls who can't stay away from this blog might unconsciously feel the same way. It's not me you want, you're just looking for your Mind!

Along these lines, last week Dennis Prager had a program in which he asked listeners if their life had turned out as they had planned or envisioned it when they were, say, 18 years old. Or, to put it another way, if someone had told you at 18 how your life would turn out, would you have been surprised?

In my case, "surprise" would be an understatement. The discontinuity between what I was and who I am is so radical, that it is analogous to "creation from nothing" -- which, when you think about it, is not a metaphor, for it is the essence of metanoia. So when I say that my mind was "saved," I literally mean that I was saved from nothing, AKA, a living death in some manmode misosophy. And how could a feller not be grateful for that?

Because there's really no middle ground here. It's either nothing or everything; meaninglessness or a kind of hyper-meaningfulness; existentialism or essentialism; nihilism or God. Intelligent stupidity -- whereby a man conforms his mind to the great material sea of nothing -- results in intelligence never discovering its sufficient reason and man falling far beneath himself. It is to never discover Intelligence as such, which is of the same substance as the Absolute, or the "word" that passes between it and the relative. As I mentioned in the Coonifesto, religion does indeed have a bridge to sell you -- the bridge between the One and the many, the Absolute and the relative, Eternity and time, Creator and creature, Word and intellect.

As Schuon points out, the scientist (and I'm just going to use this word as shorthand, bearing in mind that I am again referring to the reductionistic and materialistic thinker) elevates knowledge of physical things -- i.e., the relative -- to the absolute. In so doing, he substitutes "exactness" for intelligence, and "it is indeed this very 'exactness' which excludes the decisive operations of pure intelligence, since a meticulous and often arbitrary cataloguing of facts which are possibly insignificant -- or are rendered such thanks to the point of view adopted -- replaces the intellectual perception of the nature of things."

In turn, this is why science can make so many preposterous claims about the human condition, since they do not admit an irreducible "human condition" to begin with. And this is the wedge where all the inexhaustible stupidity rushes into the scientistic mind -- this wedge between the material and archetypal planes, to put it succinctly.

Now. Now. I like saying that when I'm trying to get back on track, but pretending that I was never off it.

Now, here is perhaps the biggest conceit of science, although there are many. But I notice that this is a notion that the hopelessly naive lizards tend to regurgitate, that is, the idea that science simply deals with a world of unproblematic "facts" as we find them, untainted by any subjective biases, metaphysical assumptions, or preconceptions. To this silliness it is difficult to respond with anything other than a robust "Ho!" It's as if they've never even heard of the philosophy of science, much less metaphysics.

Scientists -- although they can account neither for free will nor freedom of inquiry (i.e., a fully open and receptive mind, free of all preconceptions) -- have this barmy idea that they are engaged in "a complete liberty of investigation." However, "this is an illusion since modern science, like every other science, cannot avoid starting out in its turn from an idea: it is the dogma concerning the exclusively rational and more or less 'democratic' nature of intelligence."

Here again, this is where intelligence dies by its own hand and becomes stupidity when detached from religious metaphysics, for it is assumed that intelligence is simply a sort of quantity that everyone possesses and which can know scientific truth (which is the only "real" truth). In fact, the conclusion does at least follow the premise, since virtually any idiot can "understand" a scientific truth once it has been discovered by someone a little brighter.

It takes no great intelligence to understand Darwinism, for what is there to understand? Random mutation + environmental selection. Got it. Where's my BA in biology? The idea that it will "endanger our children's scientific education" to suggest that the integral truth is a little more complicated than this, is pure kooky talk.

Raccoon Truth is not nearly as simplistic as scientistic truth, as many readers can attest, some of whom weren't entirely sure that I wasn't "crazy" when they first stumbled upon this blog. Think about that for a moment, for it is the same thing I was alluding to above, with respect to how my mind was "saved" by Divine Intellect in all its manifestations.

Anyway, as Schuon points out -- and surely this is true -- "There are truths that can be attained only by intuitive intellection, and this in fact does not lie within the capacity of every man of sound mind." Furthermore, just as logic requires materials on which to operate, the Intellect itself requires a Revelation "in order to actualize its own light in more than a fragmentary manner," for again, revelation is intellect objectified, and like knows like.

Running out of time here.... I guess we'll have to pick this up tomorrow....

44 Comments:

Blogger julie said...

"a Raccoon is a lover of truth and a seeker after wisdom. I am so grateful to the light-filled teachers who helped to lift my mind out of the bog of materialism and other errors, that I can never repay them -- except perhaps by freely passing along what they freely passed into me. I love them and I always will. This is not any kind of mere fideism or sentimentalism, but is rather a sort of "continuous miracle" that takes place in my head, of all places."

Yep - and right back at ya, Bob. If I hadn't stumbled across this little cranny that opens into a brilliant crevasse, it is doubtful in the extreme that I would ever have heard of most of those light-filled teachers, much less taken the time to actually try and read any of them. I owe you a debt that can never be repaid - not because you're a guru or a huckster, but rather because you were kind enough to stand higher on the mountain, with a rope and a flashlight handy so that those of us who are lower down might find a way to get there from here.

7/07/2008 08:46:00 AM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Amen, Julie.

I felt alone. I had this sense of who God was, and what Christ was about, and I thought I was crazy because no one I knew ever had any idea what I was talking about -- my incoherence aside. Then I came here and found the B'ob and the Coonosphere articulating and illuminating all the stuff I was stumbling over in the dark.

7/07/2008 09:19:00 AM  
Blogger walt said...

So, I guess we can just relax next time we see the character carrying the sign saying, "Jesus SAVES!" -- and be grateful for the re-minder.

When I lived in San Francisco I worked on the big thoroughfare, Market Street. Amongst the denizens were all sorts of "interesting" people, including one fellow who would walk up and down the boulevard each day, saying nothing, but with a sandwich-board sign over his shoulders, which said "Either you learn, or you burn!"

We used to just ignore him, and assume he was one of the crazies.

But, maybe not: I've never forgotten him, nor his simple ambling up and down the street, nor the message on the sign. Another re-minder.

7/07/2008 09:43:00 AM  
Blogger Jim said...

Yea, what Julie said. (Wish I could talk that purty.

7/07/2008 09:44:00 AM  
Blogger Gecko said...

Seconding what Julie said: "not because you're a guru or a huckster, but rather because you were kind enough to stand higher on the mountain, with a rope and a flashlight handy so that those of us who are lower down might find a way to get there from here."
That is the Truth.

7/07/2008 09:54:00 AM  
Blogger Robin Starfish said...

"Raccoon Truth is not nearly as simplistic as scientistic truth, as many readers can attest, some of whom weren't entirely sure that I wasn't "crazy" when they first stumbled upon this blog. Think about that for a moment, for it is the same thing I was alluding to above, with respect to how my mind was "saved" by Divine Intellect in all its manifestations."

Finding OC was like mind-tripping into a fertile oasis exactly when it was needed. Wandering in every day to learn from Bob and the other critters helps immensely in the working out aspect of my salvation*. Once awakened, the will and the to do are called to action, elements that had gone underground for me.

Jesus saves. Absolutely. And then the real work begins.

*Philippians 2:12-13

7/07/2008 10:12:00 AM  
OpenID thomism said...

It struck me yesterday while listening to a bunch of lawyers talk shop just how stupid the scientism claim is: even lawyers have shelves full of things that they know which aren't derived by hypothetical deductive models, experiments, peer-reviewed data samples, metrical accounts of phenomena, etc. Lawyers at their best need a certain wisdom to recognize what is certain, what is doubtful, what is best met with a statistic and number, and what is not, etc. They need a method to interpret various things according to the various kinds of certitude they have etc. The question of "science" never comes up. The study of law isn't some vast crutch that the ignorant are forced to rest upon until some brilliant mind develops jurisprudence as a subset of physics.

Most trades and disciplines could probably say the same thing. Science (taken as a kind of method, which is all it can mean when spoken of as "science" w/o qualification) is often a superfluous method to most disciplines, and a merely partial and helpful method to others.

7/07/2008 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Brazentide said...

I happened upon OC last week thanks to an off-hand reference by Dymphna of GoV. Its now at the top of my blog list.

My sincerest gratitude to you Bob, for constructing this blissful island of truth and reason amidst the digital ocean of inanity.

I can only hope I will be able to contribute a substantive thought or two in the future.

7/07/2008 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous christopher said...

This site is very good for me, though I do not entirely agree.

For example, if you were to canvass the United Church of Christ and the Unitarians, I suspect you would find many church members who not only agree with and understand your talk of the vertical but who are as well committed to the political agendas of the left. Probably a fair number of Methodists also. Among the Churches there are the Liberals and the Conservatives as well as the fundamentalists and the mystics.

I noticed the same thing when I was in Asia, where I lived for a couple years that there was a broad spectrum of spiritual and religious people and that their politics was only loosely connected.

I find the whole thing fuzzier than it is limned here.

As for myself, were it not for the saving nature of a particular time in my life back when I was 21 I would have died lost and alone, unable to live on the planet. That time is the source of all I know of spirit, the drive behind all I have learned after of how to communicate from that place of peace.

7/07/2008 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

I could never be a Methodist; their leadership (and no, I don't conflate the leadership with the individual members; I know lots of good people who are Methodists, including family members. I shouldn't have to make that distinction, but I know if I don't somebody will accuse me of unfairly characterizing a group of people) is officially opposed to Israel.

Speaking of looking for my mind, note to self - go easy on the tofu...

7/07/2008 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous bob f. said...

Yes, a definite and major thanks be to Bob and for all your fingers pointing toward the moon; you've opened a lot of doors...

7/07/2008 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Well, all I can say is that I'm deeply touched.

And Thomism -- Polanyi's whole philosophy of science comes down to how it is that scientists can know so many true things that can't be proven. He has a very sophisticated understanding of the fruitful aspect of scientific faith.

7/07/2008 01:15:00 PM  
Anonymous christopher said...

There y'go GBob. This is what I come here for, the reconciliations that you offer.

I already know there are scientists of faith (having worshipped with them in a Unitarian fellowship) as well as the number who have taken a materialist "faith". I don't have a clear idea of how many of which there are but I believe the scientists of faith are in a major minority when by faith you mean the wide range of shapes God can have in this blog. Einstein is a famous example. I believe that there is no true majority (instead, with as many different positions as there are, then only pluralities) among the scientists on this issue of the existence of the vertical, or if there is a majority it is the agnostic temperament taken on by people too busy with other things and uninterested to actually bother to investigate.

You should be touched by these statements of gratitude today. You have obviously earned them.

7/07/2008 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger Susannah said...

This particularly resonated:

"For this is the descent from intellect to mere intellectualism, the latter of which is rooted in pride rather than conformity to truth. One cannot really simultaneously be proud and a lover of truth. Truly, science is one of the glories of man -- a claim that no mere scientist could ever make, being that glory is a transcendent category irreducible to any material explanation. In other words, scientific truth glorifies the Divine Mind, not the mind of the scientist who denigrates mind to begin with."

So very, very true.

I printed the last three posts and read those. Your posts are too good to remain digitized, Bob.

7/07/2008 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger Sibylline Zipper said...

When I stumbled on this blog over a year ago I was very much an agnostic Darwinian scientific materialist. I was shocked to find out how feeble were the underpinnings of my world-view and somewhat angry that, at middle age, I had never come across this kind of critique before. I still can't claim to be a full-fledged Raccoon, but I am all shook up, and finding being all shook up to be quite exciting. It's like I feel a kind of quickening, a feeling of pregnant expectation, like I am in a chrysalis waiting to hatch. I have no idea if this will really happen or how long it will take but I have gone from being a rather tired 49 year old to an exited 50 year old. Came for the politics...stayed for the guerilla theology.

7/07/2008 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

What Susannah said and what Sibylline Zipper said.

And remember what Julie said, stay away from the tofu... you fu.

7/07/2008 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

'Anyway, as Schuon points out -- and surely this is true -- "There are truths that can be attained only by intuitive intellection, and this in fact does not lie within the capacity of every man of sound mind."'

Apparently. Behold, the fruits of intelligent stupidity: eventually, it simply results in stupidity. (Although sadly, it does not result in simple stupidity, which would at least be somewhat tolerable; rather, it is profoundly, dangerously stupid.)

7/07/2008 04:19:00 PM  
Anonymous jwm said...

I just love these threads. I can't tell you how many times I've stopped to reflect on the huge changes that have happened to me since I started hanging out here. I'll say that again- changes "have happened to me". I did not intentionally instigate them. I did not start reading One Cosmos (book and blog) as a kind of self-help exercise. I didn't come here to stop smoking, improve my mental health, or to unlock the secret of success.
I was pulled here by the Magnet.

"Lord, show me the way that you would have me follow. Teach me the path on which you'd have me walk."

That paraphrase from Psalm 25 had been part of my daily prayer for years when I came here. Still is. But I couldn't see the way until I was made ready to see it. And I couldn't learn a path that I deliberately would not see. When I was ready to hear the Word, it called to me from BabbaZee's Old Testament wrath, and Gagdad's Godawful puns. I drank it in and it led me to the Scriptures, and it changed me. It just keeps drawing me in. Odd. It seems I never touch bases with people of Faith in the daily world. I meet some churchgoers here and there, but no Raccoons, no Ferals, no one I can really talk to. I only meet their spirits here on line. Internet as machine vector of Holy Spirit? Miracles of the space age. Or maybe that's just way too corny- I don't know...
But stuff has changed on line as well. Not long ago we all felt pretty welcome under the big tent of LGF. I visited the last ID thread over there. Gila Monsters. It was like going to your neighborhood beer bar, and finding it's turned into a mosque. So the lizards split off, and take the path of the Scientific People. Very genetic of them. The Feral Remnant, and the Raccoon Nation remain.


JWM

7/07/2008 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

JWM,
"I'll say that again- changes "have happened to me". I did not intentionally instigate them. I did not start reading One Cosmos (book and blog) as a kind of self-help exercise. I didn't come here to stop smoking, improve my mental health, or to unlock the secret of success.
I was pulled here by the Magnet."

That's an excellent observation - the same is true for me. I wandered over from Shrinkwrapped because I found the mix of politics, psychology and spirituality to be rather tantalizing. I never expected or even sought a change of mind, but that's what I found, or rather what found me. I gave up looking for magic bullets a good couple of years before the blog was even a twinkle in Bob's eye, I think. But now?

"It's either nothing or everything; meaninglessness or a kind of hyper-meaningfulness; existentialism or essentialism; nihilism or God."

The magic bullet snuck up behind me when I least expected it, and pierced me right through.

Metanoia. It does a body good.

7/07/2008 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Alan said...

the best way I can explain what I have got from coming here is the analogy of me as a wine taster vs a true wine connoisseur...

I had some appreciation for the finer things after having tasted all kinds of swill that had a bad aftertaste and gradually figuring out what I truly enjoyed. However I have benefitted from those here who both have a more sophisticated palette and a language to cloth their experiences and understanding... gagdad chief among them but all of the regulars have taught me.

Oh yeah... and my bank account is lighter to the tune of a couple OC's and many other books in Bob's recommendation list.

7/07/2008 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Alan said...

ps. time spent here clearly hasn't improved my grammar!

7/07/2008 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Cousin Dupree said...

Yes, but think of all the money you saved by allowing Gagdad to slog through and eliminate all the lousy books!

7/07/2008 05:41:00 PM  
Anonymous ximeze said...

Oh goodie, a foodie thread on OC. Maybe I can show-off that I know something about one thing, instead of the usual nothing about everything.

There are many, many nutritional problems with soy & soy-products - all Raccoons should get informed, especially because soy-products in various re-labeled/re-named forms permeate our processed food supply. The stuff is everywhere - just try cutting it out of your diet & you'll see.

Only long fermentation, such as for making tempeh, natto, miso and traditional-method shoyu or tamari sauce neutralize the nasties, but few Westerners consume their soy in these forms.

Soybeans come to us from the Orient, where it was not food, but a crop used to fix nitrogen in the soil. It did not became food until the Chinese started fermenting it during the Chou Dynasty (1134 - 246 BC) - read up & you'll see why it never made it as food until then.

Unfermented soy contains enzyme-inhibiting compounds that wreck havoc on the proper absorption of minerals, along with mimics that mess up other systems in the body.

All that hubbub about using soy for estrogen replacement therapy comes from the fact that soy contains estrogen-mimics. Only problem is that nobody made sure the mimics were good for people. For example, Soy-based baby formula F's-up boy-babies by dosing them with girl-hormone-mimics. Been seeing lots of placid, fat young guys with boobies? Gee, wonder why.

Here's an info link page. Plenty to choose from, but "Ploy of Soy" is a good place to start.

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html

7/07/2008 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger walt said...

An Agreement:

Weston Price rates the *Real Deal* Seal of Approval in our den.

7/07/2008 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

ximeze:

Thanks for the 411 on soy; I always thought there was something wrong with it ‘cause all the people I never trusted were hyping it. Now I see my gut was right, so to speak. The lesson I guess is: Never trust the Lefties/Watermelons(Duh).

7/07/2008 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Alan said...

Cousin: Absolutely!

OC - the newage prophylaxis. Abstention education is the best cure!

7/07/2008 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous ximeze said...

Jim, how true. Use a similar detection-system with movie & book reviews: if the lefties love it: skip it, if they hate it, especially if they howl & whine: it's worth checking out. Works great!

7/07/2008 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

ximeze

Good advice, thanks I will.

7/07/2008 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

JWM said "...It seems I never touch bases with people of Faith in the daily world. I meet some churchgoers here and there, but no Raccoons, no Ferals, no one I can really talk to. I only meet their spirits here on line. Internet as machine vector of Holy Spirit? Miracles of the space age..."

Yes indeedy. I was searching for an Education, and was getting part of one, but one that left me half empty. I knew the part that was missing couldn't have anything to do with those primitive talking snake stories... puh-leaze!

Then from a link off of Vanderleuns site, I came across some nut talking with a disembodied spirit named Petey and telling stories of working in a Grocery store and discovering Lite beer... and somehow conveying much more in those posts than a full stack of the books I'd recently read. Then came the posts on the Ten Commandments, and the 2D talking snake stories suddenly became 4D virtuous reality experiences, along with a bunch of Raccoons to explore them with.

I'm till looking for an Education, and am finally finding one, having gone from half empty to gnowhere near full and getting deeper towards gnowhere near full all the time.

Big hugs.

7/07/2008 07:31:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

Jim,
"Never trust the Lefties/Watermelons(Duh)."

Watermelon?

7/07/2008 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

julie

I was thinking of the green on the outside and red on the inside analogy but the link explains my red face when I eat one (hum, that may border on to much information) ;)

7/07/2008 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger Sibylline Zipper said...

For me it was a link off of neo-neocon. Whoa! Crazy talk! Wait a minute! This guy is smart. And he is actually making sense...and about some very serious stuff. I mean, where else can you get profound thought and laugh-a-minute wordplay all in the same paragraph? Seriously? Where?

7/07/2008 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger NoMo said...

Xim - Thx for helping knock soy off it's pedestal. From what I am reading, it is far from the panacea - in fact, not really healthy at all - at least in the mass marketed forms we see.

Another NoMo film recommend - The Kite Runner. A beautiful and moving picture with some realistic takes on the fascist Taliban. Makes one glad all over that we worked so hard to blow 'em up!

And finally...perhaps today is a good time to lay to rest the term "Jesus willies". I know what we mean by it here, but is the form of the message really as important as the function? Truth is Truth, no matter how it is presented. The power's in the message, not the messenger. What brings willies to one might well bring new life to another. Ain't no willies nomo.

Jes say'n.

7/07/2008 09:41:00 PM  
Anonymous ximeze said...

"Raccoon Truth is not nearly as simplistic as scientistic truth, as many readers can attest, some of whom weren't entirely sure that I wasn't "crazy" when they first stumbled upon this blog."

Hee Hee Hee

Besides making my sluggish brain HURT, it was the un-craziness-making that got my attention: who IS this guy who makes sense with every word?

Now I gno it was "that celestial light which illuminates both mind and world, neither of which can (be) comprehended on their own level."

Dei-light-full

My gut told me most others got it wrong, but my head could not figure out why.

It was the Arc of Salvation series the clarified for me that the 'wrongness' stemmed from the 'tree' being wrong-side-up, with its roots in the bog & branches in the air.

Bingo! It was "intelligence never discovering its sufficient reason and man falling far beneath himself." It was the Cosmic inversion that told my gut something was terribly wrong. Flip the tree over into the correct position & everything makes sense again.

"...perhaps by freely passing along what they freely passed into me.... a sort of "continuous miracle" that takes place in my head, of all places."

For some timelessness now I've been coontemplating the wonder of the way light-threads unroll through time via history. Sort of light-memes that make contact somewhere dark & untouched, infect the populace & spread, bearing fruit further along the time-path.

Nomo, do me a favor & provide the appropriate hyper-link, would ya please?

The Arc of Salvation discussed how the Hebrews, with O-breathed ways, set the light-thread ball unrolling & pockets of lucidity begin springing up. It spreads to the Old World via a Judeo-Christian thinking tradition, then on to the US Founding Father's clueprints.

Then we get that mass reenlistment that took place last week in Baghdad. Those people were ceremoniously acknowledging the continuance of that light-thread, putting their lives on the line with that endorsement.

Is their 'real' function to start the spread the light-meme in that godforsaken part of the world? O's light in the heart of the Caliphate, spread by first kicking butt & then passing out beanie-babies? Iraqi boys want to grow up & become US Troopers. Aren't the strongest supposed to be the biggest a**holes too? Whaaaat? You're helping us & not stealing whatever we have? You're giving us seed-money to reopen our shops in the market & you're not even kin or tribe members?

What does one do with that kind of reversal of 'the way things have always been done'? It'll be interesting to watch how contact with that light bears fruit on down the line.

7/07/2008 10:24:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

ximeze says: Is their 'real' function to start the spread the light-meme in that godforsaken part of the world?

You hit the nail on the head and drove it all the way home. All the more reason the left can't say anything good about Iraq.

7/07/2008 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Another gnewtritious post, Bob!
And the comments...wowee!

I was one who thought Bob was either crazy or genius...or perhaps both.

Hell, a few times I thought I decided not to stay, 'cause some of the BobOque here was givin' me indigestion.
Irritating my Ocers.

But like JWM said, there was somethin mysteriously magnetic drawing me back in.

Well, he is funny, I thought.
Maybe I'll just skip the really tough parts.

But the really tough parts wouldn't skip me...
after awhile it started sinkin' in and reasonatin'...
Like wakin' up in a dream you gno is more will than the materialistical mundane.

Aye! I thought. I much prefer the mysteriously mystical revelations
laced with high quality humore presented in Bobservational syncoonation, than the land of the walking dead.

"Here thar be humore, Cap'n!" Skully said, drinkin' his mornin' grog.

"Aye, Skully. Thar be that and more. I suspect thar be buried booty and sunken treasure as far as the aye can see in this Cosmos! Way anchor! It's time for Liberty Call!" I nodded in agreement.

"We're gonna be rich, Cap'n! Wealthy beyond our wildest dreams!" Skully exclaimed, happier than I've ever seen him.

If Skully can see GOld here, I thought, then truly we must be in pairOdice, and thar ain't no snake eyes in this game.
It's as if the dice are loaded! You can't lose!
All the OMblers are winnin', and the drinks are free!

We had found the ledgeand: Bobvana in the Upper Tonga isn't a fable, it's the real thing.

Funny, I thought. It's not on the chart. The only thing on the chart was the deep blue see.
I was beginnin' to fathom...

Thanks, Bob! :^)

7/08/2008 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Skully said...

I love this cult! Now pass the Olaid!

7/08/2008 12:30:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

I've got to pass this on. I haven't watched it yet (they've got an mp3 download option too), but the title alone is priceless.

Ready?

Sure?

Here you go...
A Debate: God Is Not Great with Al Sharpton and Christopher Hitchens

Oh... my....

7/08/2008 05:19:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Just in case that last link doesn't work, it goes through a membership, here's the direct link.

Beware the stomach turning new castrati presenter and moderator.

7/08/2008 05:53:00 AM  
Blogger NoMo said...

Xim - per your request...maybe this?

7/08/2008 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous ximeze said...

Nomo that's perfect! You never disappoint.

Vanster, cringe, ackackack, your intestinal fortitude exceeds that of this coon - I ain't letting THAT in.

7/08/2008 09:43:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Ximeze, yours was the wiser course... 10 min and the and the toxic meter was pegged.

Like having Mengele & Frankenstein argue medical ethics.

Closed & cleared internet files....

ugh.

7/08/2008 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous ximeze said...

"Like having Mengele & Frankenstein argue medical ethics."

Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha

7/08/2008 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger psaturn said...

Hey G'Bob!

I found your site after someone quoted you mentioning LGF here...

SO far, I like what you write!

7/13/2008 02:09:00 PM  

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