Saturday, June 21, 2008

And the Weird Light Shines in the Dorks, but the Dorks Don't Comprehend it

What is reality, anyway? Our paradigmatic science, physics, reduces the world to a few beautiful equations, but the equations don't tell us how to generate a world with them. In fact, they provide no factual content whatsoever for the world we actually encounter. So which world is the "real" world? The inconceivable quantum world undescribed by physics, the ponderable world we encounter with our senses, or the eternal world known only to the illuminated intellect?

Science is obviously a wonderful tool, but when it is elevated to a metaphysic it is remarkably empty of content and meaning, especially as it pertains to the meaning of our human journey, the Adventure of Consciousness. One of the implications of Gödel's theorems is that any logical or mathematical system will generate questions that are not answerable within the system. Ironically -- or perhaps "cluelessly" is a better word -- many postmodernists use Gödel to try to prove that all knowledge is therefore relative, but this was not Gödel's point at all.

Rather, Gödel -- and Petey has discussed this with him in great detail -- thought he had proved that Plato was essentially correct -- that there are things that are patently true but which cannot be proven with logic. There is a realm of ideas and archetypes that can only be known directly with the intellect properly so-called -- i.e., the nous, buddhi, or psychic being (Aurobindo's term).

This, of course, is the entire basis of religious knowledge. Our souls prove the existence of the Divine for the simple reason that they are so adequately proportioned to the Divine nature. We were built, so to speak, to know God. If we weren't so built, then we could not know or even conceive of him (except in an illusory sense), any more than a dog can conceive of music or Ray can escape his genetic programming. Nothing can account for the beauty and wonder of the soul except something even more beautiful and wondrous.

Science adequately describes the horizontal cosmos, which is to say, inadequately. In order to acquire an integral understanding of reality, the linear/temporal/horizontal view must be supplemented by the vertical, which is where revelation, myth, and metaphysics take over. Only these modes can take us beyond the horizon of knowability that afflicts your and myopic little ego. Myth and revelation bypass the ego by making an appeal to our lower and higher intuition, respectively, while metaphysics speaks directly to the timeless intellect which may know absolute truth absolutely, since it is in the image of the divine. These are built-in ways for us to see beyond the temporal illusions of our womentary maninfestation.

We might visualize reality as a circle containing a cross (better yet, a sort of spider web, with lines emanating from the center, along with concentric circles signifying the different worlds, or planes of intelligibility). Science describes the horizontal vector, but there is a second “ray of creation” that extends from the top down and then back up again. The downward descending energy is called the “ray of involution,” while the upward ascending one is called the “ray of evolution.” Of course, this is not the same as Darwinian evolution, which only describes change -- but not absolute progress, or progress toward the Absolute -- in the horizontal.

On the strict Darwinian view there is, of course, no such thing as progress, which is as it should be. While technically a “true” theory if we limit ourselves to the horizontal, it is obviously a false and limited understanding if we don’t supplement it with the vertical view of spiritual evolution. Strictly speaking, I can assure you there are no strict “Darwinians,” for even the belief in strict Darwinism takes one out of the strictly horizontal stream of Darwinism, into the realm of transcendent ideas. In short, the theory of pure Darwinism finds itself in the embarassing position of having to express itself in a medium it cannot account for, and make its appeals to a judge that cannot exist. D'oh!

Paradoxically, in order for us to exist and possess our own free will, God cannot "ex-ist" in the way atheists would apparently like him to. But it is not really a paradox, for a moment’s reflection will inform your intellect that if God doesn’t get out of the way, there can be no creation separate from him, no free beings. In other words, at the "top" of the vertical ray is the Absoloute. Even that is a bit misleading, for the top of the ray has a “face” we can see from our relative position, as well as an "interior" or "dark side" we cannot see (dark because the light would be too blinding).

The riddle of the human being is he is the only animal that is both what he is and what he is yet to be, not accidentally, but essentially. Only a human being can fail to become what and who he is, something proven to me every day in my work as a psychologist (and my becoming a freelance theologian has only heightened this awareness). We do not exist in the way that a star, a rock or an animal exists. An animal is what it is. Its nature and essence are fixed. But a human who is not perpetually becoming human is not a proper human at all. In other words, only human beings exist as both being and becoming. Unlike other animals, we have within us an essence that is both present and yet unrealized, and which it is the purpose of life to actualize and fulfill: to bring it from eternity into time and then back to eternity.

A seed does not have any choice in deciding what kind of tree it will become. A lizard doesn't wonder if perhaps it isn't living up to the ideals of real lizardiness, or whether there are better lizards out there. Only humans can fail to become what they are. Only human beings can actually become monsters, for a vile human being is far lower than a noble animal. No animal but the human being can be unfit for life and unworthy of the cosmos that belched him from the void.

The purpose of religion is to become human. Biology will only take you so far, which is not very far at all. A merely biological human being would also be a monster, a misfit, something grotesque. In our bones we know this. In Genesis, the first thing Adam and Eve realize upon attaining self-consciousness is their nakedness, of which they are ashamed. They know instantaneously -- one of those things we cannot not know -- that they are not like the other animals and that there is something shameful in behaving like one. Man has dignity and nobility, or he is not man, merely a hairless ape or an MSNBC anchor.

In so many ways the contemporary left presents a teaching that is completely at odds with our divine blueprint. “You and me baby ain't nothin' but mammals / So let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel,” as the Bloodhound Gang put it. How did this monstrous inversion occur? It has nothing at all to do with classical liberalism, which was always rooted in the traditional virtues, those perennial truths of our humanness.

Contemporary liberalism has an entirely different intellectual genealogy than classical liberalism. A tipping point was reached in the 1960’s that caused the full cultural breach with traditional wisdom, and we have been reaping its disastrous consequences ever since. The battle in America between left and liberal continues, and its outcome will determine the future of the world, much more so than the war on Islamo-nazism. It is in this context that I object to LGF's alliance with the beasts and monsters.

For leftism, in all its forms, is a revolt. Specifically, it is a revolt against our divine-human nature alluded to above. With the cosmic inversion of 1960’s came the pervasive message that one could be an authentic human only by being subhuman, by rejecting all of society’s "hypocritical" mores and values. In fact, the word "hypocrisy" was redefined as a way to eliminate the realm of metaphysically real values by attacking those who are unable to live up to them (as if anyone but a saint could!). Famous leftists such as Herbert Marcuse and N.O. Brown taught that Western civilization was false, oppressive and inauthentic. Therefore -- in a complete inversion of the cosmic order -- the purpose of life was to become “unrepressed” and to overturn tradition, since the latter was simply an "illegitimate means of control and domination."

This is why the left cannot help aligning itself with movements -- no matter how vile or evil -- that further this goal of overturning Western values. It is why Michael Moore calls terrorists “freedom fighters,” why Cynthia Sheehan calls President Bush a terrorist, why Kos says “screw ‘em” to American “mercenaries” who are beheaded by Iraqi terrorists, why they sympathize with the Palestinians but demonize Israel, why they love Castro, Che, Sandinistas, Hugo Chavez, and now Obama.

At the heart of leftism is revolt, both aggressive and sexual. Unfortunately, with regard to the latter, they have clearly seized the advantage, and it is difficult to see how we could, as a society, ever return to sexual sanity. Ever since the 1960’s the left has succeeded in redefining sexual virtue as unrestrained sexual expression, which we see in the battle to preserve the definition of marriage. Again, it is a complete reversal. As Shelby Steele writes in White Guilt,

“The idea that a lack of sexual inhibition signified a deeper and more compassionate humanity became one of the more fabled ideals of the counterculture. Here casting aside one’s sexual inhibitions was a way of opening up to one’s deeper humanity and, thus, separating oneself from the dark human impulses to racism, sexism, and militarism that plagued the repressed, bourgeois world of one’s parents. At the center of the sixties consciousness was always this confluence of the personal and political where freedom from bourgeois repression was always somehow an aspect of social responsibility.”

The establishment does not require the rebel but the rebel requires the establishment, in the same way that the adolescent requires his parents to act out his rebellion. Therefore, leftism isn't just reactionary, but it is a dance of projective identification in which the leftist projects the most human parts of himself outside and then rebels against them. This is what allows him to live without conscious guilt (unconscious guilt is another matter), for the guilt is converted into the imaginary “right wing fascism,” the "psychic twin" that persecutes him.

For guilt was another thing that was thrown overboard in the 1960’s. Nothing is more “inauthentic” than feeling guilt for doing what comes naturally. But the absence of guilt is the measure of how far we have strayed from our divine blueprint. It is like our sense of physical pain, without which we would quickly damage our bodies beyond repair.

The same thing can happen with the soul, which cannot live without the guidance of a celestial ideal. Humans can either become less -- or all too -- human on their own or more human with a little nonlocal assistance. For it is folly to think that we can pick ourselves up by our own buddhastraps or fly inward and upward with our own Darwings.

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Prayer of the Raccoon who is sophering with the Jesus willies:

127 Comments:

Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Pardon my Bob,

Anon from 6:58am and 6:59am of yesterday's post,

I don’t want to answer for Dr Godwin but if I may I would say you have it correct and that at least “confusion” is a start…or a chance or re-pairable.

6/21/2008 07:45:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Oops…I meant “Pardon me, Bob,”

6/21/2008 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous cousin Dupree said...

Cue Ray to compulsively reveal to us his impoverished and self-refuting counter-metaphysic.

6/21/2008 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Pardon our Bob, who aren't a heathen.

6/21/2008 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Scatter said...

I already handled it, Rick.

6/21/2008 07:49:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

I’ll set my timer.

6/21/2008 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous The lizardoid gospel of ray said...

I believe in a single substance, the mother of all forces, which engenders the life and consciousness of everything, visible and invisible. I believe in a single lord, biology, the unique son of the substance of the world, born from the substance of the world after centuries of random experimentation: the encapsulated reflection of the great material sea, the epiphenomenal light of primordial darkness, the false reflection of the real world, consubstantial with the mother-substance. It is he who has descended from the shadows of the mother-substance, he who has taken on flesh from matter, he who plays at the illusion of thought from flesh, he who has become the Human Brain. As a Human Brain, I acknowledge a single method for the elimination of error, thus ultimately eliminating myself and returning to the mother substance. Amen.

6/21/2008 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous a thomist said...

All the demands of science would be perfectly met by "roll the tape Darwinism", that is, a Darwinism that assumes nothing more than if you rolled a video of the last several million years, you would see various Darwinian scenarios play out- ocean levels fall and beach some whales that start walking... whatever.

The video could answer any number of interesting questions, but it is evident that it would be of no more value in evaluating the relation of mind to the Absolute than watching a video of a man mowing his lawn. Any account of consciousness, soul, truth, or the inner nature of human life would be no better answered with the tape than without it.

Metaphysics means "after physics". The idea that one of the physical sciences could be metaphysical is like a dog chasing his own chase.

6/21/2008 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Cooncur, my brotha'.

6/21/2008 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger walt said...

I've heard it said that before the idea of a Way makes any sense to a man or woman, there has to be an inkling that "something's not quite right." Of course, the person also has to investigate that feeling. I guess that's the "magnetic center" you have written about.

Perhaps in Darwinian terms, this deep sense of "Something Else" amounts to a 'V'-gene (V for Vertical), that's active in some and untriggered in others. Judging from what you daily write, we can assume you have an "active" V-gene. Some folks, not so much.

Of course, the traditions you have studied call it by the names you call it by.

You wrote:
"The riddle of the human being is he is the only animal that is both what he is and what he is yet to be, not accidentally, but essentially."

This sort of statement has, in the recent past, been esoteric, and hidden. You're giving away the game!

And, may God bless you for trying so hard!

6/21/2008 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Why is it not apparent to everyone (non-coon)that the Democratic Party is now officially the Communist Party? Elected officials suggesting that we socialize, errr I mean, let the government run the oil industry. Are they kidding? How can we get Oprah to put Atlas Shrugged on her holy reading list? The fact that people even entertain the idea shows just how deeply communism has been accepted in this country via media and education. These are indeed dark days hopefully people will wake up soon. I can think of no better way to stifle and destroy humanity, liberty, and this country.

Conceding to the fact this makes me old, you are absolutely right, Bob, when you talk of the rebelliousness of the Left and their need to lash out only to find it's them on the other side too. Too bad they just can't grow up, enjoy their life and create it how they want without too many regulations by government. I mean I'm so over it already....

6/21/2008 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Obama's comment to the effect that Republicans are racists places him so far beneath contempt that there is nothing one can say. At least in 1976 we had an excuse, for no one really understood Carter's despicable character until it was too late. This year we have no excuse. And yet, I see no way that McCain can win.

6/21/2008 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Yeah, it's kind of scary...could it be possible that enough people who are uneducated about the realities of each candidates positions will vote for Obama? It's always because they have this vague feeling...arggh it's infuriating. I mean McCain pisses me off too, just a little less. I like a lot of things Bob Barr has to say, but he is naive on National Security which is a biggie in my book and it's only 2 guys so it would be a wasted vote....Sometimes I wish I didn't care.

6/21/2008 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Zephir said...

I would vote for Babar before Bob Barr.

6/21/2008 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger Sibylline Zipper said...

I came of age in the 60's and 70's and basically went along with it, but as time passed I have increasingly felt that I was damaged by it at some level that I could not articulate. This post is illuminating. I also remember seeing an interview of Joseph Campbell in which he was asked ''What is the purpose of religion?'', and he answered, ''To transcend our animal nature''. But I guess that if you really immerse yourself in the traditional religious paths that this becomes apparent. I have also observed that something that seems to distinguish Islam from the other religions is it's attitude toward anger. Other religions seem to see anger as a kind of spiritual nitroglycerine that should be handled with extreme caution and that it's indulgence threatens our humanity, but Islam, or at least many Muslims, seem to almost revel in a kind of primal rage and to believe that they have divine sanction to do so. I don't know lot about Islam and this my be unfair on my part, but that is my observation.

6/21/2008 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger Lisa said...

At least Babar wouldn't put Winnie the Pooh as National Security Advisor...

Write in for Babar! Don't forget, he won't!

6/21/2008 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Alan said...

Lisa: Good point.

... and it makes perfect sense that the party of Eeyore would have Winnie the pooh in its cabinet.

6/21/2008 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

It's really the Peter Pan party voting to stay in Neverland.

6/21/2008 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"The purpose of religion is to become human. "

Yes. And we can imagine what the purpose of opposing it must be.

6/21/2008 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"The battle in America between left and liberal continues, and its outcome will determine the future of the world, much more so than the war on Islamo-nazism. "

That is indeed the Good Fight of our day. The frustrating thing is, it can't be fought with fists or fighter jets. In this battle, the pen is not just mightier than the sword, it is the sword, and our Education is our armory - the left has always known this, the Right has forgotten it. The left has also known that if they could manage to discard Metaphysics, or cause the Right to be embarrassed by it - then the Right would be enemies in name only, their attempts to fight the left would be for position only, having been conned into flying the same flag.

That's about where we are with McCain.

The real battle is in the schools, in our associations and in our daily words and actions. Anytime you let a remark go unanswered, we yield ground.

It is an unpleasant thought.

Accepting it will lead to many uncomfortable encounters, distasteful to decent and polite people.

And the left knows it. And the left counts on it.

6/21/2008 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"In fact, the word "hypocrisy" was redefined as a way to eliminate the realm of metaphysically real values by attacking those who are unable to live up to them (as if anyone but a saint could!). "

Ancient martial art of ju-leftsu. Peddle a redefinition of a word, and it's true meaning is lost, and at the same time, its tactical-horizontal use is turned against those who think the word still contains its meaning, and in using it they cut themselves.

6/21/2008 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

A Thomist said "The video could answer any number of interesting questions, but it is evident that it would be of no more value in evaluating the relation of mind to the Absolute than watching a video of a man mowing his lawn. Any account of consciousness, soul, truth, or the inner nature of human life would be no better answered with the tape than without it."

Yes! Well said!

6/21/2008 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

True knowledge has never been about the material, but about the immaterial and spiritual - We've allowed ourselves to be ju-leftsu'd by that redefinition

psst! Ray! Guess which 'scientific' ideology has most been used to execute that flip?

6/21/2008 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

Lisa said "Are they kidding? How can we get Oprah to put Atlas Shrugged on her holy reading list?"

Lol. About as likely as getting Dracula to dine on garlic bread (no need to imagine how holy water would fare on the menu).

6/21/2008 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

An exchange this morning on my site, got me rereading Alexander Pope, and this from the midst of his Essay on Man Epistle I, seems fitting for the leftie:

"Go, wiser thou! and in thy scale of sense,
Weigh thy opinion against providence;
Call imperfection what thou fancy'st such,
Say, here he gives too little, there too much:
Destroy all creatures for thy sport or gust,
Yet cry, If man's unhappy, God's unjust;
If man alone ingross not Heav'n's high care,
Alone made perfect here, immortal there:
Snatch from his hand the balance and the rod,
Re-judge his justice, be the God of God.
In pride, in reas'ning pride, our error lies;
All quit their sphere, and rush into the skies.
Pride still is aiming at the blest abodes,
Men would be angels, angels would be gods.
Aspiring to be gods if angels fell,
Aspiring to be angels men rebel:
And who but wishes to invert the laws
Of order, sins against th' eternal cause."

6/21/2008 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger QP said...

Van, Bout not yielding ground. Got around today to posting a long comment at an Energy blog. So far my comment has an actual, system accrued rating of -3.

Another commenter simply gave it a -42.

Walt said earlier about our national condition, we're in a rolling disaster, like "playing ball on water".

6/21/2008 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger QP said...

One quip from my comment at the blog pertained to this video the moderator had put up for discussion.

I wrote Chris reminded me of Nurse Ratched. My rating is now -5.

6/21/2008 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger walt said...

It's a Japanese saying: "Like playing ball on running water."

I.e. slippery, uncertain, challenging, always nearly out of control. Like life.

6/21/2008 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

From the 'McCain Team' update today,

"As president, John McCain will break from the failed energy policies of the past and lead a great national effort to achieve energy security for a peaceful and prosperous America. Working with the leading energy experts, John McCain will work to design and implement the right policies that will effectively govern our energy future by enhancing our economic stability, national security and environmental protection. "

McCain, and all little 'r' republicans, think that they can use the same tactics of the left against them. What they don't get, is that by using references of obfuscation and phony grandiose calls, resting on plans to use gov't to further their plans ("it'll work for us! We're different!), they are only advancing the leftist cause at a slightly lessor speed. They're still "playing ball on running water".

If they, the Republicans, don't come out and state the facts, point out the Truth, and do what is right because it is Right... the only progress made will be to back off from 75 mph to 65 mph... but the highway remains the same.

What the Republicans and Conservatives need is not a new driver, but someone who can read a map.

6/21/2008 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger QP said...

Gracias Walt. (Gotta knife at my throat > gotta get presentable to a wedding party of 300!)
Who knows I could run into Mr. Lucky. Yikes!

Thanks Van-take-no-prisoners!

6/21/2008 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

QP said "Another commenter simply gave it a -42"

;-) I feel your pain!

Still, for a bit of perspective, keep in mind that Montesquieu’s "The Spirit of the Laws" was published around 1748 (and was the most referenced work in the constitutional convention). James Otis read it, and was intrigued by the idea of a separation of powers. Otis was a little unbalanced, but by most accounts a brilliant man, and the ideas had been rolling around in his head for some time... when after a few political slights began to stir him up, the Navigation Acts set him off, and while arguing a case in 1761 involving "the Writs of Assistance", he launched into an especially fiery courtroom oratory.

Otis marked his speech to being nothing more than applying textbook (nothing like what we think of) lessons from Coke's compilation of English Law, and the idea that "Everyman's house is his Castle", but to John Adams, who marked the beginning of the revolution from that moment, he described it as "Otis rose in the hall like a flame of fire!", and he spoke for four hours, after which Adams said he wanted to rush out and take up arms against the writs right then and there. (BTW, A.J. Langguth's "Patriots" is one of the few books to mark the significance of Otis in sparking the revolution... an enjoyable read).

It took another 15 years of people like Samuel and John Adams’s very different efforts, to finally stir the people up into realizing their position and rousing into action. That's a 30 year arc from one person, Montesquieu (and there are many bad ideas in there, along with the good) making public his thoughts, and people listening and discussing them and internalizing them, before any visible results were seen - and they were dealing with a populace who were mostly familiar with the Bible on one hand, and if not with the actual texts, then at least and the general ideas of Locke, Montesquieu, Cicero and so on, and a mostly positive view of business and industry, not to mention an educational outlook unopposed to their ideas.

There's a whole lot of time filled with nothing but people thinking, discussing and speaking and being rated -5 & -40's, and... and those who became The Founders, could have easily remained a lost remnant, but others sparked their thoughts, and they spoke out, they talked, they argued and eventually turned the prevailing views of the most powerful nation on earth into the lost remnant.

We've got a long haul before us, if anyone has any illusions that one or two elections is going to put us back on track... I'm afraid those elections are probably thirty years down the road. At least. Optimistically.

In the meantime, we can, as in one of the Founders favorite plays, Addison's Cato:

"T's not in mortals to command success,
But we'll do more, Sempronius; we'll deserve it"

6/21/2008 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Has anyone seen the video on Moonbattery by Rep. Thad McCotter (R)MI about how to speak Democrat? It is beyond hilarious and pathetically true. Sounds like there may be at least one coon in Congress!

Van- RE:Oprah/reading list/public influence...

"And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!³"

I'm sure she knows who this quote is taken from! ;) Ironic she is so enamored by Obama.

6/21/2008 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous walmart shopper said...

"How to Speak Democrat"

McCotter for president!

6/21/2008 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous steve said...

I love it that I can now feel guilty about my participation in the Summer of Love, Frank Zappa music, Laurel Canyon lore, without feeeling guilty about feeling guilty.

6/21/2008 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

Thanks Wal Mart Shopper, I never did figure out those sophisticated linky things...;)

6/21/2008 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous steve said...

"My freedom will be so much the greater and more meaningful the more narrowly I limit my field of action and the more I surround myself with obstacles. Whatever diminishes constraint diminishes strength. The more constraints one imposes, the more one frees one's self of the chains that shackle the spirit."

Igor Stravinsky, Poetics of Music

6/21/2008 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger walt said...

This seems relevant to the recent back-and-forth, although it's nothing you haven't also said. But it has a similar "flavor" as the Schuon quote you share with trolls stating that we owe them nothing:

"Men do not know themselves, and therefore they do not understand the things of their inner world. Each man has the essence of God and all the wisdom and power of the world (germinally) in himself; he possesses one kind of knowledge as much as another, and he who does not find that which is in him cannot truly say that he does not possess it, but only that he was not capable of successfully seeking for it."
-- Paracelsus (1493-1541)

6/21/2008 06:48:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Damn, I was just reading Paracelsus this morning. Get out of my attractor!

6/21/2008 06:55:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

Digital verses
analog? No contest.
Chord forms in bright space.

6/21/2008 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger QP said...

Van, thanks for your generous perspective and encouragement to this emerging trimtab. My rating is now -14 with one vocal supporter, so I left the group with excerpts from this excellent article by A. Hawkins on American Thinker all about the Marxist/Lenin mind set of most Democrats.


About the 30 years of "playing ball while running on water".

What to you think about this commentary by Robert Hirsch on CNBC, now on You Tube?

(No, didn't meet Mr. Lucky - would I be here now?) ©¿©/

6/21/2008 09:14:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

(In case you were wondering about the missing syllable in that second line, it was an implicative space, the implication being that I really needed a nap ;)

6/21/2008 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sibylline Zipper said,

Other religions seem to see anger as a kind of spiritual nitroglycerine that should be handled with extreme caution and that it's indulgence threatens our humanity, but Islam, or at least many Muslims, seem to almost revel in a kind of primal rage and to believe that they have divine sanction to do so. I don't know lot about Islam and this my be unfair on my part, but that is my observation.

Stick around here awhile honey. "Many muslims" aint the only ones with a self-bestowed divine dispensation for righteous rage. Just ask Jesus. Or Petey. For starters. Have I got that right, coons?

Cue Jorge for a self-refuting insight on personal motivation.

6/21/2008 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous jackass said...

Hee Haw

6/22/2008 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger Robin Starfish said...

Julie -

No worries. Interpreted as a monosyllabic version of selah. ;-)

6/22/2008 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Scotty said...

Gagdad Bob said...
Damn, I was just reading Paracelsus this morning. Get out of my attractor!


I cannae break away from his attractor beam, Cap'n!

6/22/2008 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Cap'n said...

Scotty...try..to...go forward...INTO the attractor beam!

6/22/2008 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

That is highly illogical, Captain.

6/22/2008 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

I know, Spock, I...know..but that's..what makes..us...human!

6/22/2008 05:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

Damn it, Jim, can't you do something! I'm a doctor not a Walt Disney ride!

6/22/2008 05:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Red shirt Ray said...

Captain! Spock is right! This is highly illogical! We'll all die sir!

6/22/2008 05:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

As you were, mister! You are relieved!

6/22/2008 05:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

What...in the...hell...are you talking about, Bones?

6/22/2008 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Scotty said...

Cap,n, it's the dilithium crystals! They cannae last much longer!

6/22/2008 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Scotty said...

And I punctuated Cap'n wrong!

6/22/2008 05:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Cap'n said...

Scotty, screw...the dilithium crystals!

6/22/2008 05:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Sulu said...

I'll screw 'em, Captain!

6/22/2008 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Checkov said...

Botany Bay? Botany Bay? Oh no!

6/22/2008 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Bones? Checkov...he's having...flashbacks.

6/22/2008 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

This ought to fix him, Jim!

6/22/2008 05:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Sulu said...

I'll fix him!

6/22/2008 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Uhuru said...

Captain! I'm getting a transmission...but I can't decipher it!

6/22/2008 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Spock, can you...?

6/22/2008 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

Fascinating. It doesn't show up on my monitor...

6/22/2008 05:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Magnify...the viewer...to maximum!

6/22/2008 05:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

What in tarnation?

6/22/2008 06:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

Fascinating.

6/22/2008 06:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

What...is it...Spock?

6/22/2008 06:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

It appears, however unlikely that may be, to be a garden gnome of some sort. It still doesn't register on any of our scanners.

6/22/2008 06:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Red Shirt Ray said...

Huh? I don't see anything. Hey, did you guys read that evolution book I was,,,

6/22/2008 06:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Security! Escort mister Ray to sick bay. Bones...do what you can.

6/22/2008 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Sulu said...

I'll escort him, Captain!

6/22/2008 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Spock, Uhura...the gnome...he is saying something...what?

6/22/2008 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

I checked the highest frequency, and I took the filters off...I...

6/22/2008 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Captain said...

Spock! Spock! Snap out of it! What...did...he..say? Spock?

Bones! Spock, he's...smiling.

6/22/2008 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

Captain...he calls himself...Petey. He did a gnome mind meld, Jim...ha ha ha!

6/22/2008 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Scotty said...

Try saying gnome mind meld ten times really fast.

6/22/2008 06:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

Spock is fine, Jim. Must be his human side laughing.

6/22/2008 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Jim said...

Spock! Spock! What...did he...say?

6/22/2008 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

Ha ha! He said...ha...he said "pardon our Bob!" Ha ha ha!

6/22/2008 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Jim said...

Wait a minnute! Wait! A minute...that book I was reading, you know the one, Bones...you gave it to me.

6/22/2008 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

Yeah, but it was meant as a joke, Jim...

6/22/2008 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Chekov said...

Captain! Look! Etched on the back of my seat! It says..."pardon my Bob" R.R.

6/22/2008 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous captain said...

Mister.... Tambourine.... Man!

6/22/2008 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous captain said...

Down the foggy ruins of time... far past the frozen leaves...

6/22/2008 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Jim said...

One Cosmos...One Cosmos Under...God! That's the one, Bones!
In...the book...there was a hand drawn likeness of this Petey!

But how...can this be?!

6/22/2008 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous spock said...

Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow?

6/22/2008 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Bones said...

Jim, Petey is saying something else!

6/22/2008 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous captain said...

To dance... beneath... the diamond sky... with one hand waving free!

6/22/2008 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous captain said...

With... all memory and fate... driven deep beneath the waves....

6/22/2008 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Spock said...

He said...one dispensation to you, doctor, for helping the lost tribe of Raccoons. Ha ha ha!

6/22/2008 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Red Shirt Ray said...

Did you know that Raccoons evolved?
I'm serious!

6/22/2008 06:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Raccoons did not evolve. Evolution Raccooned. Big difference.

6/22/2008 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Good mornin', Petey!

6/22/2008 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Red shirt ray said...

Gorn!

6/22/2008 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Woe to the gaseous brood of Darwinist vapors!

6/22/2008 06:44:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

This thrilling episode of Star Coon brought to you by:
OCUG and OCUG...the blog.

Remember Kits, Bob says:

"These are built-in ways for us to see beyond the temporal illusions of our womentary maninfestation."

Tune in next week when the brave Raccoons battle the Gorn collective! :^)

6/22/2008 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Know that my antics are a door to the wise and a wall to the ignorant, for I am the Sound of Surprise!

Ho!

6/22/2008 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Resistance is chin-fu-tile! Ha ha! Ho!

6/22/2008 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

I am come for the hole in your head or a whole new head!

Ho!

6/22/2008 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

For we have come to wage battle with the Nobel savages!

6/22/2008 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

For I say unto you: the Darwinist is the sound of one bland yapping!

6/22/2008 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

We can has Gorn?

6/22/2008 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Skully said...

BBQ'ed Gorn, with Grog!

6/22/2008 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

O, my little masked pandits, know that I speak to you with vague certainty and crystal clear ambiguity!

Ho!

6/22/2008 07:00:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Tastes like chicken!

6/22/2008 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

The HE IS is eternally reflected in the clear and peaceful waters of the I AM.

Or is it the other way around?

6/22/2008 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Only with two eyes may you see the third of which they are a property!

6/22/2008 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

The third Aye...

6/22/2008 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

For in these latter days, your heart shall be a rosy cross, a kali flower!

6/22/2008 07:11:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

I learned that one from the Chief O'sun.

6/22/2008 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

For bonehead Darwinism is a trojan hearse to sneak the culture of Death into our public schools!

6/22/2008 07:14:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Wow! These are good, Petey!

Bonehead Darwinisn works in condom with secular humanism.

6/22/2008 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

In our two front battle, our superstitious foreign enemies are lost in the circle, while our substitious domestic ones are lost in the line. We must show them the open spiral!

6/22/2008 07:19:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

That is a circline message!

6/22/2008 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Knowledge minus wisdom = materialism.

6/22/2008 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Darwinism explains the Darwinist, for their minds are simply an adaptation to the transient fashions of the day. A Raccoon is adapted to the Eternal Verities. A word to the unwise: "Survival of the Fittest" applies to eternity no less than time.

6/22/2008 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

To the small mind of the Darwinist, tiny things appear large. But their entire ideology fits in my capacious hip pocket.

Ho!

6/22/2008 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Scatter said...

If Truth is higher than a banana, then Darwinism has been falsified.

6/22/2008 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Even Scatter gets it!

6/22/2008 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

Science is a world of horizontal quantities, while religion discloses a world of vertical qualities. Being that scientism would reduce the vertical to the horizontal, it cannot help but end in a culture of death if followed to its logical extreme. To reduce wisdom to knowledge is to cease to be human.

6/22/2008 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Petey said...

I have spoken. Good-DAY!

6/22/2008 07:40:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Thanks, Petey!
Lot's of delicious goodies today! :^)

6/22/2008 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Mr. Data said...

I laughed once...

oh. sorry, wrong generation.

6/22/2008 08:07:00 AM  
Blogger walt said...

I'll has what they was drinking!

6/22/2008 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger QP said...

Glorious Sunday Morning preachin' Petey!

6/22/2008 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous jwm said...

Wake N' Bake live at OCUG. Jim me up Beamy, there's too much water in this planet's glass. Call Johnny Walker and get Jack Daniels on the line. And get a hold of Mary Warner while you're at it. She's gotta see this!

JWM

6/22/2008 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

QP, Victor Davis Hanson has a new post on the energy 'question'

6/22/2008 01:39:00 PM  

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