Sunday, July 15, 2007

Random Facts About Petey and Other Household Gnomes

Let's see, eight random facts about myself. One, I don't work exclusively with Bob. There are others.

Two -- I'm a little lazy today, so I'm just going to quote Adin Steinsaltz -- "The physical world in which we live, the objectively observed universe around us, is only a part of an inconceivably vast system of worlds. Most of these worlds are spiritual in their essence; they are of a different order than the known world. Which does not necessarily mean that they exist somewhere else, but means rather that they exist in different dimensions of being."

I'm pretty much the same way. I'm here, but I'm not here. How to explain.... I'm always here in the same sense that all 200 or whatever it is crappy TV stations are always streaming into your house. They're what we might call "implicate." But you can only tap into one at a time, thereby making the implicate explicate. The multidimensional implicate order is anterior to the explicate order, so that what you folks call "consensus reality" is more of a mutual agreement to limit the implicate order in a certain way. It's all about the existential anxiety, not the Truth. If you want to get at the Truth, you're going to have to tolerate the anxiety of not knowing, not make the anxiety go away with some stupid scientistic-materialistic nonsense.

You know the old line -- "if the doors of perception we cleansed, then everything would appear as it is, infinite." It is such a monstrous conceit for humans to imagine that their puny minds can encompass the very reality that produced them!

Three -- yes, there are higher and lower worlds. I guess this isn't obvious to a leftist, but if any of you saw the "Live Earth" concert on TV, you know all about people who inhabit a lower world. Their language, their music, their feelings, their world view -- all emanate from a lower world. Ironically, most of them aren't even from the earth plane, but a notch or two below that.

The point I'm making is that the words high and low "refer only to the place of any particular world on the ladder of causality. To call a world higher signifies that it is more primary, more basic in terms of being close to a primal source of influence; while a lower world would be a secondary world -- in a sense, a copy. Yet the copy is not just an imitation but rather a whole system, with a more or less independent life of its own, its own variety of experience, characteristics and properties."

This is why the flatlanders -- scientists, atheists, materialists -- can become so enclosed in their abcircular illusions. In a way, their world view is complete (on its own level), and yet, it's radically incomplete (with regard to the whole).

I remember explaining this to Gödel, who sketched it out with ironyclad logic. I say "irony," because his ideas have been highjacked by the psycho-spiritual left to suggest that we cannot make absolute statements about reality, when Gödel and I were making the opposite point about the limitations of logic to express things we know damn well to be true. One such point is that things aren't true because they're logical but logical because they're true. Duh!

Four, being that I was once an embodied and enmentaled man prior to the farming accident, I feel that I am fit to pronounce on this. Human beings live in a world of "action," but imagine that that's where all the action is. Not true.

Allow me to explain. Or better yet, allow Steinsaltz to explain: "The lower part of the world of action is what is known as as the 'world of physical nature' and of more or less mechanical processes -- that is to say, the world where natural law prevails; while above this world of physical nature is another part of the same world which we may call the 'world of spiritual action.'"

Now, what these two realms have in common is the action of Man, since "the human creature is so situated between them that he partakes of both. As part of the physical system of the universe, man is subordinate to the physical, chemical, and biological laws of nature; while from the standpoint of his consciousness, even while this consciousness is totally occupied with matters of a lower order, man belongs to the spiritual world, the world of ideas.... Every aspect of human existence is therefore made up of both matter and spirit."

Five, it is my nature to be a "messenger, to constitute a permanent contact between [your] world of action and the higher worlds. The angel is the one who effects transfers of the vital plenty between worlds."

Six, "An angel's missions go in two directions: it may serve as an emissary of God downward, to other angels and to creatures below the world of formation; and it may also serve as the one who carries things upwards from below, from our world to the higher worlds." You might call us the transpersonal postal service for prayers and the like.

Just to make it clear, it was not I who prompted Bob to steal the Holiday Inn flag. There are "subversive angels" that are actually created by the thoughts and actions of men. I believe Bob calls them "mind parasites." They are contingent objectifications from various vital-emotional domains. Up here we sometimes call them the "tempters." Either that, or the "mesmerers."

Seven, it would be wrong to conclude on the basis of what I have just said that the difference between you and me is that you have a body and I don't. Rather, "the soul of man is most complex and includes a whole world of different existential elements of all kinds, while the angel is a being of a single essence and therefore in a sense one-dimensional." This is why you and I play such different roles in the cosmic economy. You actually have the tougher job, which is to say, because of your "many-sidedness" and your "capacity to to contain contradictions," this makes it possible for you to "rise to great heights," but at the same time "creates the possibility [of] failure and backsliding," neither of which is true for me. Rather, the angel is "eternally the same; it is static, an unchanging existence," "fixed within rigid limits."

You might say that I am already "whole" in space, whereas it is your vocation to become whole in time. Not easy, I realize.

Eight, another way of saying it is that I do not evolve, but you can and must. In other words, there is no evolution here in the vertical, only in the horizontal. In the absence of the horizontal, it's frankly a little boring here -- or as I put it in One Cosmos,

Only himsoph with nowhere to bewrong, hovering over the waters without a kenosis. Vishnu were here, but just His lux, God only knows only God, and frankly, ishwara monotheotenous -- no one beside him, no nous, same old shunyada yada yada.

Well, I could say a lot more, but my understanding is that I only had to come up with eight, so I'm outta here.

17 Comments:

Anonymous will said...

>>yes, there are higher and lower worlds<<

And if one believes as some of the old Gnostics did that this material life is literally hell . . umm . . . no, there's dimensions a whole darker, "thicker" than this one.

I think we can consider the material realm a blessing in that it prevented us from falling any deeper into the abyss than we already have - it arrests the fall, so to speak.

Of course, we won't be present in the material world forever. Either we shuck off the mortal coil or the material realm changes so that it is no longer material in the way we know it now. In either case, we go way up or we go way down.

Me, I'm trying to spend my time focusing on what's really important before the material platform gets yanked out from under me. Keeping in mind, of course, we don't know the day or the hour.

7/15/2007 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Robin Starfish said...

Yes, Steely Dan, a farming accident. It's all so clear now. ;-)

Tempters. Mesmerers. That's so perfectly and accurately descriptive. They're easier to recognize when they are properly named. In a way, it's as if nothing has changed since the beginning except mankind's ability to euphemize error, using language as a cloaking device rather than an arrow to Truth.

Robin's 8 assorted facts are up at Motel Zero. Because Bob's readership is about, oh, 250x the visitors to the Remotel, I'll post the "Tag, You're It" list here as well. Consider yourselves notified!

nomo
gumshoe
bro. bartleby
johan (cosmic swede)
magnus itland
dloye
teri
and last but not least, any of the non-blogging Raccoons who have seen the error of his or her ways and wants to make amends by starting today.

Thanks for the tag; it was actually more fun than work.

7/15/2007 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger Ricky Raccoon said...

Thanks for the tag, Julie!

Here’s my list. What a weekend. Gotta scoot but will catch up later.

Everybody’s got somethin to hide 'cept for me and my raccoon

7/15/2007 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Ok, got my Tagging taken care of at my site, now ready to start reading today's OC.

wv:ulbycnpc - No, I won't buy sympathy, but I've often paid for it.

7/15/2007 12:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Zophiel said...

Because Robin sorta opened it up, I've put up mine over at my LJ. . .I know I've only commented twice before, usually because I can think of nothing worth saying in response to a post here, other than "um. . .wow. . .good stuff. . ." and that gets repetitive very quickly. Anyway, you can find my list here:

http://zophiel666.livejournal.com/103898.html

7/15/2007 01:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Extraordinary Gathering of Angels

This book is a collection of essays along with art by Margaret Barker. It isn't quiate on the same philosophical plane but Margeret Barker is an etraordinary theologian and scholar who should be of interest to any Christian estotericist.

If your time is limited and you want to get to the gist of this methodist grandmother and preacher's theses then this is the starter book.

Temple Theology

7/15/2007 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous dilys said...

Also some recommend on Barker, online, an essay on the Atonement and one on the Edenic fall. Thanks anonymous, great discovery, this is worth pursuing!

While enjoying the vision of Petey hunkered with a goose-neck lamp poring over The Thirteen-Petalled Rose, which, I discover, is entirely on-board with the proposition that new angels like P. and Th'Cuz and maybe even a commenter or two arise & affect the Four Worlds as a fact of nature, based on our actions and motives, mitzvah or malice.

Yikes.

7/15/2007 04:32:00 PM  
Anonymous axolotl said...

Question for Petey:

Tell us more of what you experience from your vantage point. Do you have contact with Vishnu? Krishna? Christ? Aurobindo?

Have you met/touched/spoken with the Master?

I would like to hear of your highest experiences that I might partake vicariously in a touch of the glory.

7/15/2007 09:26:00 PM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Wow, Petey!
That was implicately explicate!

"One such point is that things aren't true because they're logical but logical because they're true. Duh!"

Good point, Petey.
Atheists like A. Irrational, who comments at Dr. Sanity, commonly reverse the Absolute, thinking that logic gave birth to Truth, which is impossible, but it doesn't stop him and other hostile atheists from hijacking words like logical and reason, and making up their own definitions in order to "prove" that God doesn't exist.

They also have made themselves professional victims, imagining themselves as being persecuted by anyone who has Religion, and attributing most of the worldly ill's to to Believers.

The irony is that he believes he is logical and rational, when he is anything but.
Even in a strictly material sense, he doesn't come close.

Do you suppose one of the reasons that atheists like him, Dawkins, etc., are so bitterly froth-at-the-mouth angry is because they unconciously know they are really imbeciles?

Thanks for sharing, Petey!

PS- Is the high art I have of you accurate?

7/16/2007 02:53:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

"You might say that I am already "whole" in space, whereas it is your vocation to become whole in time. Not easy, I realize."

The whole time?

7/16/2007 03:37:00 AM  
Anonymous maineman said...

"Do you suppose one of the reasons that atheists like him, Dawkins, etc., are so bitterly froth-at-the-mouth angry is because they unconciously know they are really imbeciles?"

I think the short answer is Yes, but a more detailed explanation was suggested to me by the Coonifesto, which notes that social cohesion and logical coherence are inversely related. Keeping the group together involves maintaining a closed system that reduces individual reflection and awareness and fosters Kool Aid consumption.

It seems to me that the Left has been on the ropes for a decade or two at least and that there's a hunkering down going on with them, an increased tribal cohesion, that is promoting shared and unshared lunacy.

7/16/2007 04:48:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Thanks Maineman!
I shoulda known that, since I read the Coonifesto.
My memory went on vacation, I think. Didn't even leave a memory cell phone number I could reach it at in case of emergencies.

7/16/2007 06:46:00 AM  
Blogger River Cocytus said...

Not much to say, here. Brain's run out of juice. Also, trying to cut back on coffee. So... my brain will be a bit lacking for the next few...

7/16/2007 07:57:00 AM  
Blogger Magnus Itland said...

Lower-order worlds...
"We create worlds" was the slogan of Origin, a computer games company a few years ago. They are gone now, but the process of creating worlds is blooming more than ever. There are now many "persistent worlds" in which thousands of "avatars" of real people interact, leaving memories and influencing these "worlds", creating echos back up to the world in which they live.

I wonder what the eventual conclusion will be to all this. The thought has occurred to me that the pre-sentient phase of the universe was like a childhood or perhaps even larval stage, and that a mature universe will necessarily spawn sub-universes. At present, these are very embryonic, but I wonder what the future of human creativity will bring.

7/16/2007 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Joseph said...

"The lower part of the world of action is what is known as as the 'world of physical nature' and of more or less mechanical processes -- that is to say, the world where natural law prevails; while above this world of physical nature is another part of the same world which we may call the 'world of spiritual action.'"

This puts me in mind of Henry Corbin's description of the "Mundus Imaginalis".

7/16/2007 08:04:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Will said "Me, I'm trying to spend my time focusing on what's really important before the material platform gets yanked out from under me. Keeping in mind, of course, we don't know the day or the hour."

Here's to keeping your balance and keeping the big hand at least one tick from midnight.

7/16/2007 08:19:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Ben said "Do you suppose one of the reasons that atheists like him, Dawkins, etc., are so bitterly froth-at-the-mouth angry is because they unconciously know they are really imbeciles?"

They don't gno, and they know it and fear it Ben, know it and fear it.

7/16/2007 08:24:00 AM  

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