Even for God not all goods are simultaneously possible, or what the experts call "compossible."
Oh?
That's right. You can say God decides, but once he decides, it's one or the other: this cosmos is not that cosmos. So, even for God A = A and not B. A decision is a limitation, so you can say God is the Unlimited until he limits himself by deciding.
Sounds trivial.
Well, as we've been saying,
The values in a divinely determined world are not available in a world where the creatures are free to make undetermined choices (Rice).
For example, the attainment of truth or the exercise of love are not possible in a determined world. In other words,
the values available in a world where creatures have the freedom to make choices would not be available in a world where God's decisions, or decrees, apply to everything that happens (ibid.).
Unless you posit an arbitrary God who rules by whim, which would then render him unintelligible in principle.
But God is the principle of intelligibility.
I think so. If our principle of intelligibility is grounded in unintelligibility, we've got problems.
Down here we are limited by Gödel's theorems, in that our own models and systems can be consistent or complete, but not both. However, God must be complete by definition. Must he also be consistent? Or is that asking too much? Can God himself simultaneously be A and not A?
Certainly he is full of paradox, or rather, it is difficult from our end to speak of God without the use of paradox, or what we call orthoparadox. We might say that orthoparadox happens when finitude tries to describe infinitude.
Is it paradoxical to say that God is all-powerful and that man is free? Only if we presuppose "a zero-sum distribution of power in the world, according to which there is only so much power to go around."
But why should we think of power this way? We don't think of God as limiting his happiness or his love, for example, by creating beings who are capable of these qualities. What compels us to think of power in this way?
Analogously, the Declaration of Independence talks about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and one man's happiness doesn't detract from mine. Unless I am one of those DEI obsessed individuals driven by envy, in which case one man's happiness diminishes my own.
But is God so petty as to begrudge man the freedom to pursue happiness, as if it detracts from his own? It remind's me of Mencken's definition of Puritanism, "The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy."
What if a world with creatures free to pursue happiness expresses the divine nature "more fully and adequately than one in which God decides everything unilaterally"? It doesn't mean that God doesn't have his preferences, only that his preferences cannot come about in a determined universe. Some preferences can only occur if they aren't coerced. For example, we all want to be loved, but we can't force someone to love us.
Same with God?
Apparently: it requires "a higher kind of power"
for God to accomplish his purposes in a world where the creatures' choices are genuinely their own than in a world where God's creative decision includes all that happens.
God is not haunted by the fear that someone, somewhere, is exercising his own free will. Rather, in a truly open reality -- which is to say, an open cosmos with open minds -- and
whose future is not foreknown, God manifests divine power by pursuing his objectives in response to the decisions of the creatures. Their decisions are truly theirs, but God creatively responds to their choices in ways that serve his purposes.
So, creation is a power sharing arrangement?
Why not? Not to belabor the point, but it
entails a higher form of power for God to empower his creatures to act and to inspire them to cooperate with him than for God to achieve his objectives unilaterally.
Indeed, what kind of achievement is it -- and what is the point -- to play a game in which the outcome is entirely determined beforehand? It's like the problem of men in women's sports. The men are going to win every time, and how sporting is that?
This leads to the problem of the Incarnation: is it totally determined ahead of time, or imbued with human freedom every step of the way?
That's the big one.
Yes it is, because where is the merit if it just follows a predetermined script -- if every detail has been programed from all eternity? If it is All God and no man, what does it even have to do with us? Rather, it seems to me that the Incarnation should be the quintessential case of the power sharing alluded to above.
Rice only touches on this, for example, citing a process theologian named Zbarschuk who suggests that with the incarnation "God's power is 'limited, cooperative, partial, dependent, and open to failure and defeat.'"
First, is it possible that the events of the Incarnation are more improvised than scripted in advance? And second, is it possible that it could have ended in a massive fail?
Well, in a sense it was a fail, in that it sure looks like Plan A was to convert the Jews, otherwise why bother with all the preaching and teaching?
Was Christ's passion "plan B"? Why else would Jesus pray for some other way? The whole narrative presupposes that Jesus' "obedience was a choice, not a foregone conclusion." If he had no choice, there goes the merit, and indeed, there goes the man (i.e., the man imbued with the freedom to accept or reject God's will).
These are deep waters.
Murky too.
The question open theism raises is whether or not his faithfulness was assured in advance. Was it a certainty from the beginning or a genuine achievement, something that became definite when it actually occurred?
A cliffhanger? Even for God?
To be continued. Meanwhile, what say you, my artificial friend?
The tone of the text is inquisitive and exploratory rather than dogmatic. The author is grappling with profound theological questions, presenting different perspectives and challenging assumptions. The purpose of the text seems to be to:
- Offer a philosophical framework for understanding how God can be omnipotent while still allowing for genuine creaturely freedom.
- Explore the implications of this framework for understanding divine action in the world, particularly the Incarnation.
- Introduce the reader to concepts relevant to open theism and process theology.
In conclusion, the text offers a thought-provoking analysis of the relationship between divine power and human freedom, using logical arguments, analogies, and references to contemporary theological discussions to challenge traditional deterministic views and propose a more dynamic and interactive model of God's engagement with creation. The focus on the Incarnation as a key test case adds significant depth and theological weight to the discussion.