Monday, July 18, 2011

Why People Who Disagree with Me are So Deathly Boring

As we know, there is "natural" religion and there is supernatural religion. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with the former -- at least as far as it goes -- and to the extent that it leads to mischief, I would generally mark this down to man, not religion per se (or one could equally say that there is a religion that is a "cure" for man's troublesome religiosity, but that is the subject of a later post).

For clearly, while there are monstrous examples of natural religion, its finest exemplars -- e.g., Plotinus or Shankara -- are objectively more evolved than, say, Fred Phelps, or Jeremiah Wright, or Jesse Jackson.

Natural religion may be thought of as the actualization of man's innate psycho-evolutionary potential, or bearing upon his ability to pull himself up (↑) by his own buddhastraps without any extra-natural assistance, i.e., grace (↓).

Conversely, supernatural religion begins with data emanating from a transcendent source, i.e., revelation. What this means is that the Other has deliberately revealed itself to man, disclosing things that no merely human faculty could have known or had access to -- just as one can have no access to another person's mind (beyond a certain limit) without their voluntarily communicating it.

But there is much overlap here, and in the end, it becomes clear that even the most natural religion is still supernatural, the reason being that nature herself is already supernatural.

For God -- or O -- doesn't simply reveal himself in words or statistically unlikely events. Rather, there are several a priori revelations of God, including nature, but most especially, the intellect. To reduce the intellect to physics or chemistry or genetic shuffling is not even wrong. Rather, it is William.

And as always, extremists meet, so it should come as no surprise that the most dogged materialist will treat his metaphysic exactly as a primitive religion, and harbor all sorts of religious assumptions, impulses, and strivings beneath the veneer of irreligiosity.

Hence, for example, the deep desire to evangelize others, to save them from a life given over to falsehood, to protect and guide youth from destructive error, etc. A literal materialist would't give two fucks.

Very much in contrast to reader William's long-since debunked anti-religious bigotry, science began as a conscious endeavor to study the world in order to disclose the (capital R) Reason transcending and imbuing it.

Early scientists were not yet stupid enough to believe that all this magnificent order and beauty could have come from "nowhere." Not only was there no conflict between Christianity and science, but there was no accounting for the latter in the absence of the former (and we are speaking, of course of its fully developed form, not some caricature that exists only in the mind of the bigot).

Are there individual exceptions? Of course, just as there are corrupt and misguided scientists. For example, the Galileo incident must be understood in the context of a Church that was attempting to defend itself from Protestant accusations that it was far too liberal in its interpretation of scripture.

Now, I do not, nor would I ever, argue for the premodern confusion of religion and science. First, on a "meta" level they cannot be separated anyway, because truth is obviously truth, irrespective of the source or the means of attaining it.

However, I do feel that the historical distinction between science and religion was very much providential, and is a prerequisite of post-biological evolution on a collective scale. Indeed, one might very well say that this historical parting of the whys was "the Christian thing to do."

It certainly wasn't -- and isn't -- the Muslim thing to do, as Islam explicitly forbids any such partition. The same is true of their politics (no liberty, democracy, or individualism), economics (no interest), art (no human images), psychology (no equality of men and women), and history (which comes down to Allahstory only).

As a result, Islam cannot evolve, and instead circles around in its pathetic little historical eddy. It is what happens when one has a supernatural religion only, with no room for the quasi-autonomous realms of nature, man, history, and culture. The latter should be unthinkable for proper Christians, but again, there are modern Christian sects that have more in common with Islam than with traditional Christianity.

Now, returning to the question of natural religion. It has always been the case that for the sensitive soul, nature is, in the words of Schuon, "metaphysically transparent." Indeed, this is what first prompts our attention to it. Man's first conscious engagement with nature is not any kind of detached skepticism, but rather, a wonder-infused curiosity, or what the Raccoon calls the sacred WTF?!

And when science attempts to posit itself outside the mode of wonder, it always reduces the world to far less than it actually is. It is somewhat analogous to falling in love, but instead of deepening it, spending the rest of one's life trying to unsentimentally explain it away as some sort of merely chemical or genetic attraction. One could do it, I suppose, but only at the cost of one's humanness.

But why would one want to? Again, scientists rarely if ever draw out the ultimate implications of their first principles, because to do so would drain life of any and all meaning, and transform man into an unredeemable freak.

Nature hides a secret. Everyone knows this, particularly the scientist who spends his life trying to coax nature into giving it up. The scientist begins with curiosity and wonder, but never ends there unless he has accidentally killed his own soul in the desire for unambiguous certainty on the horizontal plane (on which there are always snakes).

In the words of Balthasar, nature has -- or is -- an "intimate-public secret," in that it is simultaneously "permanently concealed" and yet "permanently divulged." This begins to take on the contours of love, for do we not have the identical attitude toward the loved one -- that no matter how much there is, there is always more, an inexhaustible richness of revelation?

Likewise, we should know at a glance that we could never "contain" our dear Ma Nature that bewombs us (in other words, you can't give birth to your mother, although we have heard from the wise that it is possible for Mother to give birth to God, more on which later). "The possibilities of life" are always "infinitely more abundant than what is actually on display." Indeed, "There is an incomprehensible prodigality in the very essence of life" (ibid.), to say nothing of Mind.

It is not as if we're ever going to run out of dreams, or poems, or songs. If that were possible, then life would be unendurable. In this regard, our ignorance -- or the absence of omniscience -- is a blessing, not a curse. Again, see Genesis for details.

Think of the infinite number of biological forms effortlessly tossed up by nature, each a little eros shot into the heart of eternity. These are only the appearance of certain "possibilities concealed in the overflowing abundance of life" (ibid.)

And this is again precisely where materialism converges upon revelation, or rather, where matter is itself a revelation. For no type of matter less wondrous would be worthy of man. The latter "would betoken a poverty of being, and ultimately of the Creator, if everything possible were also actual."

For example, in the great artist -- say, Shakespeare or Bach -- there is a kind of effortless profligacy that mimics nature's redundant beauty. "We know a great artist insofar as his works reveal how sovereignly he has created them and how little strain they put on his powers" (ibid.).

Two things may be said of this; the authentic genius always transmits a bit of the latter in his works. In other words, there is the work itself, but also the simultaneous transmission of the infinite from whence it came ("know them by their fruits").

Second, we can always experience the inverse of this in the unimaginative secular (or religious, it doesn't matter) thinker who reduces reality to what his own little mind can contain. In this type of prose, one can always intuit the strain, so to speak, in the author's attempt to stretch his inadequate ideas to the proportions of reality. This results in a kind of tedium, or deadness, that the author unwittingly projects into his reader. Zzzzzzz.....

The result is, of course, boredom, and it is critical to bear in mind that this type of boredom is not an absence, but rather a presence. In psychotherapy it is highly pathognomonic. There is something wrong with the boring patient, something that he is attempting to communicate via the therapist's counter-transferential boredom. It is not meaningless, but full of meaning, usually revolving around deadness, or more to the point, a soul murder that has taken place in the past (and repeats itself in the present).

And this is not to say that "absence of boredom" -- or "excitement" -- is automatically suggestive of health. Not at all. To put it mildly, the most "exciting" people can be a pain in the ass if they have, say, a narcissistic or borderline personality.

I just finished a book about World War II, and Hitler was evidently rather thrilling to be around. Everyone was quite aware of the fact that the room fairly crackled in his presence, even though, at the same time, the actual content was about as boring and banal as once could imagine -- all heat, so to speak, and no light whatsoever. Dark heat, as it were.

Does anyone else find Obama to be deeply boring? Al Gore? Clinton? Carter? Kerry? Edwards? Biden? NPR? CNN? Time? Newsweek? Rachel Madow? Charles Johnson? William? (Big tip o' the cap to Serr8d.) Prose by any other gnome smells just as bad.

In contrast, I would put palpably insane clowns such as Olbermann, Krugman, or Ed Schultz in the "exciting borderline" category. A therapist would not be able to handle more than one such character in his practice.

So behind appearances is "the infinite surplus of the possible." One might even say that beyond being is the Beyond Being of God, with the result that "finite appearance as such is the coming to light of a certain infinity." And as we have said many times and in many ways, finitude "shades off into the twilight of the unknown," which is none other than "the ineliminable mystery of being" (ibid.).

In short, "The truth of any being will always be infinitely richer and greater than the knower is capable of grasping" (ibid.).

Deal with it.

59 Comments:

Blogger walt said...

"...deeply boring..."

And stupid, too:
The first attribute of stupidity is inertia. It is first of all an indifference to light, or a refusal, whether passive or active, to heed the call of the luminous and ascending tendency in divine manifestation.
-- Mark Perry

Not sure why they hang around here; I doubt it's a case of "perseverance furthers." More like "moth----->flame."

7/18/2011 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

"Very much in contrast to reader William's long-since debunked anti-religious bigotry, science began as a conscious endeavor to study the world in order to disclose the (capital R) Reason transcending and imbuing it.
Early scientists were not yet stupid enough to believe that all this magnificent order and beauty could have come from "nowhere." "

In willian's defense, I'm sure he simply figures that since he found his thoughts laying around out there on the 'net, ready made, fully formed, without having to think them himself, and easily copy & pasteable as his very own, as if from nowhere, then... obviously other great scientists probably just did something similar, after all, works for him.

7/18/2011 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

It is indeed difficult to be more boring than a mendoucheously twatwaffling cutnpasty kinkledink.

7/18/2011 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Does anyone else find Obama to be deeply boring? Al Gore? Clinton? Carter? Kerry? Edwards? Biden? NPR? CNN? Time? Newsweek? Rachel Madow? Charles Johnson? William?

Oh, god, yes! Honestly, I think I'd rather be staked to a fire ant mound than have to listen to any of them drone on and on. At least the fire ants would have a valid point to make.

Also, @9:34, :D

7/18/2011 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger JP said...

As a personality, I think of Obama as being inert.

When I think about him, which I avoid because it's uninteresting, it's motsly to realize that I feel very little in the way of any kind of interst whatsoever.

He's boring, so I tune him out.

7/18/2011 09:49:00 AM  
Blogger William said...

supernatural religion begins with data emanating from a supernatural source,

There is no "data" that comes from supernatural sources. Certainly there is data that can not be yet explained, particuarly in quantum physics, but to chalk it up to supernatural is like declaring it 'magic.' Substitute 'tales' for 'data.'

William's long-since debunked anti-religious bigotry, science began as a conscious endeavor to study the world in order to disclose the (capital R) Reason transcending and imbuing it.

I said nothing contrary to the develpment of reason and logic in science. What you might call 'bigotry' was simply facts that presented that you found that were not to your liking, so you attack the messenger. Later, you mention how facts can be sooo boring, "ZZZZ..." ... That's is a tried and true conservative trait, BTW. Do you find Pat Robertson or Jack Van Impe "interesting" by contrast?

As a result, Islam cannot evolve, and instead circles around in its pathetic little historical eddy.

Speaking of bigots... Religion can consume individuals and whole nations. The prime reason Muslim societies don't advance is because they are steeped in religion- third world theocracies. If you look at the democratic nations that are predominantly Mulslim, like the UAE, you will find a more advanced culture. The reason Christian young earth creationists don't advance intellectually is because they are similarly steeped in religion. Islam will evolve when theocracies and fundamentalism are eliminated. When fundamentalism is eliminated, divisiveness fades.

And when science attempts to posit itself outside the mode of wonder, it always reduces the world to far less than it actually is.

Agreed, it is said that the science of quantum physics is like the discovery of the tip of an enormous pyramid buried in the earth. It will be eons before we can see the whole, if ever. It IS wondrous, but we will keep discovering. The scientists at CERN - The Large Hadron Collider know this.

Glad, you like my solarium, temperd glass and redwood, it's got a fireplace too, up in the trees, a great place to play Bach.

7/18/2011 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Mizz E said...

✩✩✩✩ for today's visual mockUment.

7/18/2011 09:52:00 AM  
Blogger JP said...

William says:

"Do you find Pat Robertson or Jack Van Impe "interesting" by contrast?"

Did you actually read Bob's book?

You do know that this is a book club, right?

7/18/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

One picture is worth a thousand comments.

7/18/2011 10:04:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Hence, for example, the deep desire to evangelize others, to save them from a life given over to falsehood, to protect and guide youth from destructive error, etc. A literal materialist would't give a fuck.

Exactly. If you follow materialism to its proper conclusions, there is no reason whatsoever to care whether your fellow humans believe in god or a spaghetti monster, unless said humans are proposing to tie you to a stake, rip out your entrails for divination, or blow themselves up in your living room. In fact, given how generally useful it is to have Christians and Jews around, a pragmatic atheist might even encourage that particular religious lie.

7/18/2011 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Re. the photo,

When Willy says he likes to chase tail, he really means it...

7/18/2011 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Not sure how our culture would survive without effeminate guys playing guitar to their animal companions.

7/18/2011 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

"To put it mildly, the most "exciting" people can be a pain in the ass if they have, say, a narcissistic or borderline personality."

Whew, I'm glad I'm Bi-polar!

7/18/2011 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Must be a self-hating conservative, because few things are by definition more culturally conservative than the canon of classical music.

7/18/2011 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

Oops. Forgot to say Hi to ya Julie!

7/18/2011 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Dougman:

As you undoubtedly know, few people are more infectiously exciting and charismatic than the manic person, at least until it tips over into psychosis.

7/18/2011 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger William said...

I guess you don't have many musician friends, Bob. You won't find that it's the 'liberals' that are constantly trying to cut music and arts from education and gov't funding.

BTW... it's such a fun sport to present facts to conservatives that have no intellegent rebuke. They often act like your friend Serr8d, attack the messenger, if you don't like the facts that someone presents, call them 'gay'. Very childish, and amusing. So very conservative minded. It's called a persistent response pattern.

Lot's

of data

on this.

Of course, you'll attack these studies as well since they conclude:

In Current Biology:
"Liberals have more gray matter in a part of the brain associated with understanding complexity - the anterior cingulate cortex, while the conservative brain is bigger in the section related to processing fear - the right amygdala."


Fear, persistent response patterns... your minions conform so well.

7/18/2011 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

I'm medicated now.
It definitely helps to "keep my cool" but it so tires me out.

7/18/2011 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Oh. Oh! I get it now... the pussycat romance, the relentless obsession with proven that your *cough* brain is bigger, you run faster, and your much-younger girlfriend is hotter...

Yes, it's all clear; this is a problem that even a ferrari would be insufficient to adequately address (and besides, that wouldn't be PC)...

Oh, you poor thing...

7/18/2011 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Finally, the Cat Man has explained why I just can't stay away from blogs that are so much stupider than I am. It's like an addiction or something.

7/18/2011 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

*proving; PIMF...

7/18/2011 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Dougman:

As you know, there are all sorts of alternative medications these days, but one is naturally hesitant to mess with stability.

7/18/2011 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

"but one is hesitant to mess with stability."

Especially when the wife tells me not to miss or mess with the dosage.
I drink alot of coffee now days.

7/18/2011 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

BTW, an important book is released tomorrow, Left Turn, that helps explain why our culture cranks out blandly conformist Williams like so many hamburgers. It's as simple as cut, paste, and repeat.

7/18/2011 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Dougman, I'm glad to hear the meds are helping, even if they aren't the greatest fix. I'm glad your wife is helping, though. I have a loved-one who probably should have been on the right meds, but when she was feeling good she wouldn't take them, then when she was down she'd disappear. Or take the wrong meds instead, which was less than helpful.

7/18/2011 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Dougman:

I'll bet there are ways other than caffeine to give the old epinephrine a boost. I'll ask my psychiatrist pal when I see him on Friday. He's very up on the latest research.

7/18/2011 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger JP said...

I just met with a bi-polar woman.

It's bi-polar day!

I'm also involved in a family-ish situation with a bipolar diagnosis issue, where the psychiatrist in the family is questioning the treating psychiatrist.

There's nothing like combining family drama and psychiatric diagnosis.

7/18/2011 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

Left Turn's premise looks interesting, although it seems the author may have chosen a bad example in Ben Stein. Which is too bad, really; I thought Stein was too wise for that.

7/18/2011 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

Bob,
In case it's important I'm taking Citalopram and Abilify.

Julie, the only way I'll stop taking them is if I can't afford them. Insurance is picking up most of the cost right now, (Thank God).

7/18/2011 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger anon said...

William, it's probably a bad idea to reveal your real identity to these people, who think nothing of using the most scurrilous and juvenile personal attacks in their efforts to preserve their little circle jerk.

As for books on the left, this one looks interesting (not out yet): http://www.amazon.com/American-Dreamers-ebook/dp/B004G606BW

7/18/2011 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Dougman:

Interesting choice of meds. Usually SSRIs are contraindicated for bipolar, since they can trigger mania, but you never know. The Abilify would be for the mood stabilization. But if your doctor recommends an antidepressant, there are always the SSNRIs such as Effexor or Cymbalta, which target both serotonin and norepinephrine, so they aren't usually sedating but stimulating. As I said, I'll run it by my colleague, so you can run it by your doc.

7/18/2011 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Dougman said...

Much appreciated!

7/18/2011 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger mushroom said...

...insane clowns such as Olbermann, Krugman, or Ed Schultz... -- now that is an insane clown posse indeed.

Nature has a secret, and the nihilist likes to pretend that the secret is unbearable. I admire of some of Jack London's prose though he was a nihilist and a practical socialist (see The Iron Heel). I can't remember which book or story it's in, but London talks about how man's imagination forces him to invent fiction and religion to avoid seeing the Medusa at the heart of nature.

I don't suppose it ever occurred to him to wonder why he would imagine the truth as a gorgon in the first place.

7/18/2011 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Hey, Walt! How are you doing?

7/18/2011 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

willian, I think anunce wants to pet your pussy cat.

7/18/2011 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger mushroom said...

Do you find Pat Robertson or Jack Van Impe "interesting" by contrast?

I think Rexella is hot.

7/18/2011 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Even if we grant William's belief that we classical liberals are "generous, abundant, lavish, broadminded, tolerant, enlightened, charitable, free, and advanced," it is absurd to suggest that we have these traits because of some identifiable portion of the brain.

Rather, we are classical liberals because it happens to be true -- or is the "truest" political philosophy available to man, man being what he is. If another philosophy were truer -- say, William's reactionary leftism (now misleadingly called "liberalism" -- I would assent to it. As Good writes, leftists are

"most likely to flat-out refuse discussing certain topics and answering certain questions, their purportedly “open” minds snapping shut like a giant clam. They became the group most likely to try and silence their opponents by shouting them down, defaming them, assaulting them, and even urging legislation to ban the use and expression of certain terms and sentiments. They became the group most disposed toward emotional appeals, double standards, wishful thinking, and wretchedly malodorous sanctimony." (HT American Digest)

7/18/2011 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger Van said...

"Second, we can always experience the inverse of this in the unimaginative secular (or religious, it doesn't matter) thinker who reduces reality to what his own little mind can contain. In this type of prose, one can always intuit the strain, so to speak, in the author's attempt to stretch his inadequate ideas to the proportions of reality. This results in a kind of tedium, or deadness, that the author unwittingly projects into his reader. Zzzzzzz.....

The result is, of course, boredom, and it is critical to bear in mind that this type of boredom is not an absence, but rather a presence. "

How painfully true... as any school kid today could attest. Ask them to sum up school in one (non swear) word, and "Boring!" is what you're likely to get in reply. Even worse, it isn't the unintended boredom of the twit who thinks he's downright scintillating, but the boredom of elitist drones who purposefully set about riding all 'educational' materials of imaginative content, and with the typical modernist justification 'I think it should work, therefore it will' : "The more educational materials can be reduced to pure factual content, the more we'll be capable of quantitatively evaluating a students progress, and with such a scientific basis behind education, students will learn far more and learn it in much less time than the inefficient methods of the past."

See your friendly neighborhood public school (remember to remove your keys before passing through the gun detector) for their latest proregress.

7/18/2011 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

And we have no problem whatsoever accepting Mr. Good's irreligious and skeptical version of liberalism, since we clearly have common enemies.

7/18/2011 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

Van:

Only now do I understand that school was boring precisely because leftists have been in control of the educational establishment for at least 50 years. It takes real effort to make learning tedious. I happen to be reading the wonderful McCullough biography of your fellow Missourian Truman, and how different education was when it was in the hands of people who loved and respected truth. There is no question that Truman's high school education was superior to a contemporary university education in the humanities.

7/18/2011 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

"The result is, of course, boredom, and it is critical to bear in mind that this type of boredom is not an absence, but rather a presence. "

Huh... This gives new meaning to the Golden Rule of Internet Flaming:

"May your flames be witty, insulting, interesting,
paradoxical, funny, illogical, caustic, sarcastic, even inconsistent - but never,
ever, let them be boring."

http://www.flayme.com/flame/04-psychology.shtml#Boring

I think it applies to converstion, too.

"Does anyone else find Obama to be deeply boring? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Blah? Charles Johnson? Blah?

LOL... If only charles knew the impact of his fall...

One more thing about boring. Anything can be boring, it all depends on who tells the story:

"If you want to build a ship, don’t drum up the men to gather wood, divide the work, and give orders. Instead, teach them to yearn for the vast and endless sea."

—Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

7/18/2011 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

"...how different education was when it was in the hands of people who loved and respected truth. "

BAck in the early 60's there was a preschool near where we lived called "Krahl School". Miss Krahl (Spelling??) came form europe and she believed that children should be inspired by the very leaders of thier academic disciplines.

So... she set about getting retired Professors and academics to come to her school =and teach the little children their love for their disciplines.

My Oldest brother and sister went to 'Krahl' school and they were speaking different languages before tehy were 5.

Needless to say, My sister was valedictorian of a class of around 1000 and my brother was 3rd. The later children still ranked very high and learning was important in our family, but I do think Mrs 'Krahl' made a significant impact.

The 'Krahl School' was finally closed by pressure of the Public education system so the rest of us could not go there.

Very sad. All that retired talent and gift gone to waste.

7/18/2011 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

C--

Precisely. I'd love to be flamed for once by someone with some genuine wit! To be parodied by Iowahawk is pretty much beyond my dreams.

7/18/2011 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

To put it another way, the Raccoon is humor bound to always respect teh funny.

7/18/2011 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

Yea.

Me too. A worthy adversary indeed.

Here's one of my all time favorite flambeau al-Tartar:

http://www.atomicnerds.com/?p=3576#comment-8457

The context... the form... the blue flames. Only the best deserve to be flamed to such extent.

Pure Poetry.

*sigh*

7/18/2011 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger Rick said...

There's only one way to improve McCullough's Truman. That's McCullough reading it. In the audio version there's even a clip of Truman playing the piano.
If America has a Grandfather it's McCullough. What a great voice.

7/18/2011 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

I just love how the book evokes a bygone Americana. As Lileks once wrote, it is indeed possible to be nostalgic for something one has never experienced. Vertical recollection, I suppose.

7/18/2011 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger julie said...

Speaking of the flames of hilarity, friend Linda sent this link my way the other day and I wasted far too much time reading and laughing when I should have been cleaning. So I'm sharing.

I particularly like the flame from Mrs. Johansen (5th entry down) - I'll bet her class was never boring...

7/18/2011 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger Brazentide said...

William wrote: "When fundamentalism is eliminated, divisiveness fades."

Agreed.

Just ditch that scientistic fundamentalism and the divisiveness will simply fade away~

7/18/2011 11:40:00 PM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

After reading through the comment section of this post, Bob, does this Flame Warrior remind you of anybody we know? :)

http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/android.htm

Okay, okay... that was childish and rather sophmoric, but I simply couldn't resist...

Still... this rogues gallery of flame warriors makes for a great office game entertainment when figuring out who best fits each archtype (KungFu Master is off limits as EVERBODY thinks they are him)

7/19/2011 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger USS Ben USN (Ret) said...

Cond0010 said...

"(KungFu Master is off limits as EVERBODY thinks they are him)"

Not me. I'm a Chin-foo Master. However, I'm a very humble Chin-foo Master because Masters, as we all know, are humble (the good ones that is).

Especially Chin-foo Masters.

7/19/2011 01:11:00 AM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

Golly Ben,

I simply can't find 'Chin Foo Master' anywhere! Maybe thats one of the special abilities, eh?

When we all voted at the office what avatar each person represented, this one was what they thought fit me best:

http://www.flamewarriors.com/warriorshtm/palooka.htm

heh.

7/19/2011 06:17:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

That roster of flame warriors is amazingly perceptive and funny. Interesting also that the troll never knows that he is only playing a role that precedes him.

7/19/2011 06:34:00 AM  
Blogger Gagdad Bob said...

C-

We actually had a real life Palooka troll who called himself Nagarjuna. As with Wm., it was difficult to tell whether he just too dense and insensate to know that he was mortally wounded.

7/19/2011 06:38:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Cond0010 said "I simply can't find 'Chin Foo Master' anywhere! Maybe thats one of the special abilities, eh?"

Indeed, one simply does not find the Chin Foo Master, he finds you.

When you are ready.

As for myself, well, you know I like the name, Philosopher, and I suppose that,

"His fighting tactics are direct and uncomplicated - he smothers the opposition with his ponderous and lengthy cogitations."

, is as good a description of long winded as any.

7/19/2011 06:45:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Yep, Nags would require a new entry, like 'Palooka Zombie'.

7/19/2011 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger Van said...

Cond0010, awesome Hamster by the way. Very clean.

7/19/2011 06:52:00 AM  
Blogger julie said...

C - thanks for the flamewarriors link. Too funny. Also, Van's right - nice hamster. I hope he gets fed regularly; I've a suspicion that his wheel is what's powering the intertunnels...

7/19/2011 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger Cond0010 said...

Thanks! I'm glad you all liked the links, everyone.

7/20/2011 01:11:00 AM  

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