Wednesday, May 29, 2024

Adequation to the Realm of Meta-Comedy

Jerry Seinfeld has been popping up everywhere in order to promote his new film. From the interviews I've seen, he's become quite philosophical about comedy, even touching on the transcendent realm of metacomedy. This prompted me to read the book Seinfeldia, in which the author says that in school Seinfeld even

saw geometry class as training for comedy; a good joke, he felt, had the same rigorous internal logic as a theorem proof. 

In a recent interview with Bari Weiss, he talks about how comedy penetrates the banal surface of reality:

The thing that you are incredibly fortunate enough to have if you spend your life in comedy... the gift that you were given, is you see through the surface of everything -- everything.

"Life itself"

is so peeled away of the surfaces, and the gauzy, phony planes of existence that most people deal with and on... Everybody else is like eight layers of fake cream and veneers of waterproof woodcoating... that's where most people live. That's why they come to see a comedian. How do they know these things? 

Is the source of comedy a kind of Platonic realm from beyond the cave? Whatever the case, it seems that comedy arises in the tension between appearances and reality, or between immanence and transcendence. 

It also seems that comedy -- like the knowledge of truth and perception of beauty -- is a kind of adequation to transcendental reality. It's funny because it's true. Which in turn must be why, as Wittgenstein remarked,    

A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes.

This being the case, why has no one yet written one? I suppose Dávila did in a way, composing a lengthy monologue consisting of 10,000 rapid fire gags and one-liners. Truly truly, he is the Rodney Dangerfield of metaphysicians. 

As you know, I've been rummaging through the arkive in search of an implicit book contained therein. But maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing. Maybe it's all been an endless monologue consisting of a lot of metaphysical yucks, the yucks being for their own sake. 

It reminds me of what Seinfeld said about his endless pursuit of humor: he compared himself to a woodchuck. Why does he chuck wood? Because that's what he does.

Likewise, what does Bob do? He writes posts. Why? Because that's what he does. Like this one from four years ago:

Now, deep -- that's a name no one would self-apply where I come from. But then, there was a lot about psychology that didn't make a whole lot of sense to me. But then again, maybe that's why I found the field s'durned innarestin'.

In any event, "deep" isn't necessarily synonymous with profound. One can be deeply confused, or maybe you don't pay attention to the liberal media. For it is written: Confused ideas and murky ponds seem deep (Dávila).

Moreover, Profundity is not in what is said, but in the level from which it is said. At the same time, The depth of an idea depends on the capacity of the listener.

Putting these three together, we see that there is a true and false depth, and that depth not only transmits a content, but is a kind of form, such that that depth must call out to depth, so to speak.

While this may at first sound novel -- or worse, original -- it is actually quite mundane and experience-near. There are credentialed morons who know more about quantum physics than we ever will, and smelly Walmart shoppers who know more about the soul than the physicist will ever even suspect. Which is why there is infinitely more wisdom at a single Trump rally than in the entire Harvard faculty lounge. For

Great stupidities do not come from the people. They have seduced intelligent men first.

Indeed, if you've spent any time in college, you know that A high I.Q. is indicative of distinguished mediocrity, and that The learned fool has a wider field to practice his folly. The institution of tenure is a way to transform idiocy into a permanent instead of temporary condition.

Now, back when I was in grad school, I began to have my suspicions, although who was I to question the basis of an entire discipline? 

Nevertheless, I couldn't help noticing two things: first, that a discipline is defined by its object, and that psychology didn't have one. For example, any introductory course will acquaint you with all the major theorists and theories of psychology. But if psychology is a thing, there shouldn't be wildly divergent opinions about the nature of its object.

Analogously, if you study physics, you don't begin with a survey of all the various disputed and discarded theories about the nature of physical reality. Rather, a mature discipline converges on a unity of both object and method.

So, the first thing I noticed was that psychology was and is pre-paradigmatic. It's not so much that the theories disagreed with one another, but that there was no agreement as to the object of psychology. Is it behavior? The brain? The mind? The unconscious? Attachment? Affect? Neurobiology? Neurochemistry? At least we can agree: it can't be the soul, because there is no such thing.

What about morality? Is this totally subjective, or is there objective good and evil? Does human development have a telos, or do we make it up as we go along? Is there such a thing as human nature, or do we define ourselves by our arbitrary choices? Do we even have choices, i.e., is there such a thing as free will? If so, what is it and how did it get here? By virtue of what principle can freedom even exist?

Etc. The second thing I noticed is that there is no objective way to choose between these 238 theories to guide one's life -- and the life of one's patient client consumer of mental health services. 

So, on what basis do we choose? It occurred to me that we choose based on "what works for me." Being that clinical psychology isn't just a discipline of study but a "healing art," one will pick the one through which one was "healed."

Healed of what? Let's just call it "pain," which covers a lot of territory.

We're almost out of time. But as usual, I see that Dávila was here before me. For as he observes,

The great imbecilic explanations of human behavior adequately explain the one who adopts them.

Guffah HA! This explains a great deal, not just with respect to psychological theories, but vis-a-vis every theory that pretends to be comprehensive. I believe Nietzsche said something to the effect that philosophy is just autobiography in disguise. 

This would explain why feminists are feminists, why Marxists are Marxists, why atheists are atheists, why critical race theorists are critical race theorists, ad nauseam. The theories explain them -- or rather, help to manage their pain -- but they do not explain us

And yet, so many of them want to force us to live under their theories, when all we ask is to be permitted to live in reality. For us, it is painful to even contemplate a life confined to their absurd little ideology. 

But has anyone anywhere ever been healed -- made whole -- by ideology? Or is an ideology one of those phony planes of existence, one of the eight layers of fake cream and veneers of waterproof woodcoating? Whatever the case, it is why ideologues are never funny, except unintentionally. It's why they are in urgent need of treatment -- by a professional comedian. 

I suppose we will know they've been cured when they can appreciate their own absurdity and laugh at themselves just as hard as we are laughing at them.

9 comments:

ted said...

I watched that interview with Seinfeld, and he seems to see the humor on things on a deeper level. First time I ever saw him tear up a bit too. Class act.

ted said...

Unfortunately Larry David suffers from too much TDS (read about his confrontation with Alan Dershowitz). I do like Curb nevertheless.

Gagdad Bob said...

It is indeed hard to square David's TDS with his comedic genius. Oh well. Everybody has a blind spot.

Gagdad Bob said...

Gemini says

The passage explores the intersection of comedy, philosophy, and psychology through the lens of Jerry Seinfeld's recent comments and the author's own background.

Here are the key points:

Seinfeld's comedic philosophy: Seinfeld views humor as a way to see through the superficiality of everyday life. He compares a good joke to a theorem proof, emphasizing its internal logic.

Comedy and truth: The author suggests there's a connection between humor and truth, referencing Wittgenstein's idea of a philosophical work made entirely of jokes.

Meta-comedy and transcendence: The passage ponders the possibility of a comedic realm beyond the ordinary, a "Platonic realm" of humor.

Psychology and limitations: The author criticizes psychology for lacking a unified object of study and questions the objectivity of various therapeutic approaches.

Ideology vs. humor: The author argues that ideologies lack humor and proposes that comedians can help ideologues see their own absurdity.

The text is rich with allusions and references, including Rodney Dangerfield and Friedrich Nietzsche. It also injects humor through sarcasm and witticisms.

julie said...

This prompted me to read the book Seinfeldia, in which the author says that in school Seinfeld even

saw geometry class as training for comedy; a good joke, he felt, had the same rigorous internal logic as a theorem proof.


Ha - last night around the dinner table, talking with the kids, they observed that if they were in public school they'd probably be learning trans-geometry: "This square identifies as a circle. How many sides does it have?"

ted said...

My view on De Niro's acting has definitely moved down a notch.

Gagdad Bob said...

De Niro is literally insane: Trump will end the world?

ted said...

It will end his inner incoherent world.

Open Trench said...

Good evening my fellow citizens.

Psychology is scattered. The reason being within each of us there are parts which disagree with or are in conflict, great or small, with the other parts. So when you refer to a human being, you are looking at a collective phenomenon composed of a lot of moving parts.

The task of every human is to have all of the parts fall into line with each other. When this happens, you get a very composed looking human being who nevertheless can marshal and use volcanic quantities of energy not just derived from ingested food but taken directly from the surrounding cosmos. Meet the sages. The quiet persons who have managed the hat trick. They sit like lions on the veldt, calm, eyes half-lidded, but capable of tireless and swift actions at a moments notice. From the ranks of these integrated persons come the saints and the military geniuses who win wars.

Within you lies your common sense, your sense mind, your volitional emotions, your non-volitional emotions, your conscious and your subconscious awareness, the dim but insistent input from the bones, muscle tissue, viscera, and the huge chemical signaling factory known as your gut biome. Then the intuition is there, and the subliminal mind, the waking mind, the sleeping mind, the deep dark dungeon of the Id, and finally, the nominal leader who is constantly brayed out of the conference room, the soul.

These all meet around a large table and common sense is ordinarily the chairperson, calls the meeting to order, and puts issues on the table. "We don't want to go to the Christmas Party, do we?" Then the shouting starts. The emotions chime in "of course we are going to go, we would feel guilty if we did not." Each in turn makes a comment. Finally a body part will decide the matter. The viscera announce they feel they must vomit. Party cancelled due to food poisoning.

You see how it is. The soul is usually left in back, raising its hand, trying to get it a word, drowned out, and it retires into its inner chambers and awaits the next meeting. It is patient. It will wear down all of this and in some future day, it will stand and announce "I the soul call the shots now. Anybody have a problem with that?" Silence.

"Alrighty then. We will arrive late to the party, put in an appearance, then go home and watch Seinfeld re-runs. Execute."

In unison: "Sir yes sir!"

Then off to bed to dream of wonderful true things. The world is now your b*tch and you gonna make that b*tch sing.

Love from Trench.

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