tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post8251258570476116039..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Yeah, I'm Totally Useless. What's Your Point? Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78885107062988331942013-02-02T19:17:18.323-08:002013-02-02T19:17:18.323-08:00Hmmm... Yea...
I believe the stillness that Saint...Hmmm... Yea...<br /><br />I believe the stillness that Saint Augustine is referring to is not the stillness that Seniors get in retirement (infact they can be an unhappy lot and may die soon after letting go of their career), but perhaps the stillness of being 'centered' (your center - not anyone elses) from years of defining, honing, searching and doing that which is a pleasing and proper life.<br /><br />The effortlessness that only a labor of love can give.<br /><br />I know that for me in this era of my life, to be perfectly still (physically) is the best manner for me to really figure 'stuff' out. <br /><br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/PrototypeFC3S/WhatchaThinkinAbout-Nothin-JustBearStuffs.jpg<br /><br />Even better if near a refrigerator and a microwave... :)<br /><br />To laugh often and much;<br />To win the respect of intelligent people<br />and the affection of children;<br />To earn the appreciation of honest critics<br />and endure the betrayal of false friends;<br />To appreciate beauty, to find the best in others;<br />To leave the world a bit better, whether by a healthy child,<br />a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;<br />To know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived.<br />This is to have succeeded.<br /><br />Nice quote, Bob. Its going in my Archive.<br />Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55251728732406190102013-02-02T18:18:08.869-08:002013-02-02T18:18:08.869-08:00Just read this today, by Augustine:
"We ours...Just read this today, by Augustine:<br /><br />"We ourselves shall become that seventh day" when "we shall have <i>leisure to be still</i>..." <br /><br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-47381873877215662822013-02-02T18:11:06.171-08:002013-02-02T18:11:06.171-08:00"Rather, to engage in real metaphysics is to ..."Rather, to engage in real metaphysics is to touch the divine."<br /><br />Yes. The Divine mercy. That cool drink at the fountainhead.<br /><br />Seek and ye shall find.<br /><br />"A monkey, goddammit, has certain intrinsic needs, and to deny him the object of those needs would be a cruelty. So hand over the banana already! "<br /><br />Banana!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6jlWbiTy1E<br /><br />"Man also needs, according to Schuon, spiritual practice, which, you might say, is a systematic way to assimilate and embody truth and morality. "<br /><br />Systematic. <br /><br />Absolutely. That means categorizing and ... ordering a disordered soul. <br /><br />But Why?<br /><br />All things grow weary under the sun. You can't be all things to all people. There are only 24 hours in the day. The fires of passion do burn low and the need to find other conceptual vehicles to extend your will and shore up flagging discipline. <br /><br />How?<br /><br />Duty - To know the limits of your flesh, assess the appropriate measure of labor and To do what you say your going to do. An act of love grown cold is bolstered by the conceptual tool of Duty (I'm upgrading this sense right now...)<br /><br />Honor - To do what is right. This transcends Duty and Self Interest. There is a Metaphysical 'sparkly' in this one that is ill defined for me, but when you are in the grip of Honor, it supercedes ... well most everything. If you know the limits of your courage, you will KNOW the limits of your Honor. Perhaps that is why the Medal of Honor is the highest award of our Christian nation, and if your lucky, will live to Know what ...mettle... you are made out of.<br /><br />Integrity - To be the same person, have the same values in the continuum of Social Pressurization from the extreme pressurized Concentration Camp to nearly vacuum pressurization of being a Tin-pot Dictator: The man of greatest structural integrity (in terms of the soul) will not suffer the moral deformation that would occur from living the extremes of Social Pressurization. To be unyeilding to temptation is to be someone of integrity.<br /><br />There are other vessels, concepts or tools, I suppose, that will maximize the experience of living, but those are 3 ones that come to mind for me.<br /><br />" But reality is utterly useless, which is to say, it cannot be reduced to some pragmatic, goal-directed activity. "<br /><br />We are the Artwork of God - created by him... just cuz. We are HIS work of Art. Just Cuz.<br /><br />Love, perhaps? :)<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdIjO3ONp4Q#t=1m1s<br /><br />"But the proper telos of all this creativity is the sabbath, on which we are enjoined to enjoy utter uselessness."<br /><br />The one day to do what we WANT to do (Only Duty-free work is allowed). Not ONE DROP of time is doing the have-to's in life. Sunday is representative of the ultimate of Slackitude. The bigger block of undisturbed time 'away form it all', the better the results of the ... 'rest'. (Now with the Irish, everyday is Sunday - and I'm 1/3 Irish. ;) )Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73532615397623899042013-01-31T19:53:57.144-08:002013-01-31T19:53:57.144-08:00Thanks, Bob. It appears to be similar but "pl...Thanks, Bob. It appears to be similar but "played live".Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77136387669693708312013-01-31T17:49:36.620-08:002013-01-31T17:49:36.620-08:00Chapter 2.Chapter 2.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12641011651929532842013-01-31T17:22:07.891-08:002013-01-31T17:22:07.891-08:00Oh, and is there enough bread in the dues jar to p...Oh, and is there enough bread in the dues jar to pay somebody to make Van turn the that PDF of MoTT into a Kindle book?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71584294273267077092013-01-31T17:16:09.199-08:002013-01-31T17:16:09.199-08:00Jeepers, that pull quote from Fr Barron. He's ...Jeepers, that pull quote from Fr Barron. He's awesomer in print? This is not possible until it is.<br />Bob, what chapter is that from? I'd like to see if it's the same as in the video but only sounds different in print..Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-36525244832299487112013-01-31T15:54:45.314-08:002013-01-31T15:54:45.314-08:00I find it impossible to take Wilber seriously, so ...I find it impossible to take Wilber seriously, so I haven't thought about him for a long time. If you ever catch me endorsing Tony Robins or Deepak Chopra, don't take me seriously. Rather, please shoot me. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10597833575799169842013-01-31T15:26:14.636-08:002013-01-31T15:26:14.636-08:00ha!!
Love it!
I think I would characterize his v...ha!!<br /><br />Love it!<br /><br />I think I would characterize his views as essentially panpsychist. His rough treatment of classical theism seems to echoe the typical village atheist objections to "miracles" and "mythology". Wilber's and Chopra's reaction to the Orthodox understanding of the Incarnation is unfriendly, to say the least.<br /><br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865413665629644313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-49211540491445787332013-01-31T15:13:54.676-08:002013-01-31T15:13:54.676-08:00I couldn't possibly answer that in the space o...I couldn't possibly answer that in the space of a comment, so I will do so in the form of a riddle: is it possible to take seriously a thinker who thinks Deepak Chopra is a serious thinker? Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63661119947795473502013-01-31T15:06:43.634-08:002013-01-31T15:06:43.634-08:00Gagdad,
To this day, I find myself returning to K...Gagdad,<br /><br />To this day, I find myself returning to Ken Wilber's materials. (Odd that, since Aquinas has been front and center for me recently) What do you think are the fundamental problem/s with the Boomeritis guy's Integralism?<br /><br />Thanks.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865413665629644313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41623543289504405872013-01-31T06:53:08.751-08:002013-01-31T06:53:08.751-08:00ge -- speaking of playing, a new 7 CD box o' S...ge -- speaking of playing, a new 7 CD box o' <a href="http://www.jambase.com/Articles/113162/Skydog-The-Duane-Allman-Retrospective-7CD-Box-Set" rel="nofollow">Skydog</a>. Looks intriguing. I've never heard 75% of what's on it. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73951447682197301792013-01-31T05:51:17.557-08:002013-01-31T05:51:17.557-08:00Expenditure's pleasure ...Potlatch [Bataille] ...Expenditure's pleasure ...Potlatch [Bataille] ....Play/Art/Humor [epitomes of glorious uselessness]<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/Homo-Ludens-Study-Play-Element-Culture/dp/0807046817gehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65950998769655669632013-01-30T20:10:48.821-08:002013-01-30T20:10:48.821-08:00You're welcome, Van. Databases are beautiful,...You're welcome, Van. Databases are beautiful, too. In their own way. <br /><br />Julie and Mrs. G, thank you for your responses. I think may have overstated my case a little. Women can, no doubt, be great slack-0-philes -- it just takes a different complexion, as you point out.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10126976667630229952013-01-30T19:05:19.705-08:002013-01-30T19:05:19.705-08:00As one former left-leaning Wilberian to another......As one former left-leaning Wilberian to another...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78132730139821966352013-01-30T18:55:44.336-08:002013-01-30T18:55:44.336-08:00I would suspend any concern that he was trying to ...<i>I would suspend any concern that he was trying to be mean, critical, or negative and would assume only pure motives for a limited time just to see what would happen.</i><br /><br />I did the same thing when I started reading this blog as a left leaning Wilberian Buddhist. I'm glad it worked for you Mrs. G :)tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354048695798015131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5712991926622292322013-01-30T18:24:28.841-08:002013-01-30T18:24:28.841-08:00Magister.
Actually, it had a lot to do with Bob&#...Magister.<br /><br />Actually, it had a lot to do with Bob's being honest and not watering down his concerns to spare my feelings. And the other part was probably that I also put the truth above my feelings, even though that was really hard. But once I really understood what he was getting at, I was motivated to keep at it. <br /><br />One thing that helped me to hear what Bob was saying and not let my mind parasites get in the way was that I told myself that for two weeks I would only assume that Bob had my best interest in mind. I would suspend any concern that he was trying to be mean, critical, or negative and would assume only pure motives for a limited time just to see what would happen. That was probably one of the more memorable turning points. But I don't remember anything quick or amusing!<br />LLeslie Godwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794375005614166921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73372214466220904672013-01-30T17:16:18.128-08:002013-01-30T17:16:18.128-08:00Completely off topic, I wonder if this was like th...Completely off topic, I wonder if <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/30/october-2012-women-for-menendez-event-boasted-senators-record-empowering-women-worldwide/" rel="nofollow">this</a> was like the "Little Lebowski Urban Achievers"? Or perhaps it's more like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8qnu2bqMYg" rel="nofollow">the Unified Fund?</a>juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1780393427183189632013-01-30T14:07:44.022-08:002013-01-30T14:07:44.022-08:00(but thanks for the pic, beats the heck outta the...(but thanks for the pic, beats the heck outta these table schemas I've been starting at all day long)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26893961673026324362013-01-30T14:05:23.547-08:002013-01-30T14:05:23.547-08:00Mushroom, lol. I didn't say a league that hot ...Mushroom, lol. I didn't say a league that hot ladies would play in because guys would watch, or yet another niche or throw away Olympics event that plays to the exceptions, but a SUPER SUCCESSFUL league of female players and female fans, on a par in #'s & $'s with the NFL.<br /><br />Other than 'Mary a Millionaire Bachelor ' TV shows, that is.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-16177293133462936542013-01-30T13:32:02.689-08:002013-01-30T13:32:02.689-08:00My answer? The blog made flesh.My answer? <i>The blog made flesh</i>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-16259411228059626472013-01-30T13:28:42.535-08:002013-01-30T13:28:42.535-08:00I appreciate that, Leslie, but on second thought, ...I appreciate that, Leslie, but on second thought, there's no need to hash any of this out on my account. My wife and I are doing fine. I just thought there might be something quick and amusing to report. Carry on!Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51019964110250542332013-01-30T13:22:22.631-08:002013-01-30T13:22:22.631-08:00Magister, I will think about this and do my best t...Magister, I will think about this and do my best to respond. But if you are thinking of a special someone, the methods you use might be different. If you could give me any particulars, that would help me respond to your situation better. But I will also think about how to describe Bob's methods as they affected me. <br />LLeslie Godwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11794375005614166921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27080441715648175422013-01-30T13:21:19.785-08:002013-01-30T13:21:19.785-08:00ha -- "microsophies" works, too
not a l...ha -- "microsophies" works, too<br /><br />not a lot of "philo" going aroundTonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86318264161867859512013-01-30T13:20:11.592-08:002013-01-30T13:20:11.592-08:00julie, yes, and the state sure has arranged it so ...julie, yes, and the state sure has arranged it so they have no economic incentive to take jobs that pay less than what the state pays -- their question is totally rational, "why work?"<br /><br />if, of course, it's only "rational" to think purely in terms of financial income<br /><br />like yours, I think my answer would be "to prevent your kid from becoming a selfish wanker, too, and crashing the system"<br /><br /><i>'All take, no make' makes Blake a foul boy.</i><br /><br />Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.com