tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post6795486135137462286..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Brewing White Lightnin' in My Pappy's Still Point of the Turning WorldGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60443298259480122062011-07-24T05:58:13.691-07:002011-07-24T05:58:13.691-07:00Having nothing really valid to add to this I will ...Having nothing really valid to add to this I will simply deposit Kipling<br /><br />The Gods of the Copybook Headings <br /><br />AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,<br />I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.<br />Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,<br />And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.<br /><br />We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn<br />That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:<br />But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,<br />So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.<br /><br />We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,<br />Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,<br />But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come<br />That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.<br /><br />With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,<br />They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;<br />They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;<br />So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.<br /><br />When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.<br />They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.<br />But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,<br />And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know." <br /><br />On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life<br />(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)<br />Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,<br />And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death." <br /><br />In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, <br />By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; <br />But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, <br />And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die." <br /><br />Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew<br />And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true<br />That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four<br />And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.<br /><br />As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man<br />There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. <br />That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, <br />And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;<br /><br />And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins<br />When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, <br />As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, <br />The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! <br /><br /><br />Rudyard KiplingHoosiernormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04420498412700707079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71053067489493985542011-07-24T05:17:26.014-07:002011-07-24T05:17:26.014-07:00http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/24/jesus-re...http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/07/24/jesus-reagan-and-john-lennon-what-secrets-has-yoko-ono-been-keeping-from-us/?test=facesgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28487923144693962402011-07-23T22:09:38.232-07:002011-07-23T22:09:38.232-07:00"Now, the Absolute manifests in one of two wa..."Now, the Absolute manifests in one of two ways, either as Truth or as Presence, or knowing and being, testimony and testament..."<br /><br />There will be a test, one way or 'nother. And it's not multiple cult-choice. :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-29023511231226225552011-07-23T21:57:53.649-07:002011-07-23T21:57:53.649-07:00Bravo Zulu Bob!
Outstanding post!
"For the ...Bravo Zulu Bob! <br />Outstanding post!<br /><br />"For the same reason, there can be no "neutral truth," because truth always takes sides."<br /><br />Indeed! It only helps leftists when the self-described "In-dependents" and "Moderates" say a compromise between leftism and conservatism is preferrable to either.<br /><br />Because truth can never compromise.<br /><br />That's what's so insidious about leftism...it compromises the truth like a tumor, cancer or AIDS until it means what they want it to mean rendering our immune systems null n' void.<br /><br />It only takes so many compromises for the pestilence of leftism to thrive.<br /><br />Thus even the "neutral" fence straddling jellyfish takes sides.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56817959123383822422011-07-23T12:45:42.776-07:002011-07-23T12:45:42.776-07:00"No great genius has ever existed without som..."No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness." -Aristotle, as quoted by Seneca the Younger.Magnus Itlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445902788427523461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52771420255949445462011-07-23T11:01:21.475-07:002011-07-23T11:01:21.475-07:00Amy Winehouse was a real mess, wasn't she?
Pr...Amy Winehouse was a real mess, wasn't she?<br /><br />Proof that understanding how to make entertaining Music is Lore and not Knowledge (an understnding of the contours of the human animal mind vs Truth)Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90865135541133749632011-07-23T10:27:31.349-07:002011-07-23T10:27:31.349-07:00Guess Smoov couldn't save her.Guess Smoov couldn't save her.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56881440001361385372011-07-23T10:15:13.843-07:002011-07-23T10:15:13.843-07:00Oh, that's sad. I always had a small hope that...Oh, that's sad. I always had a small hope that one day she'd sort herself out, even though as bad as her problems were it seemed unlikely.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39238603127416430032011-07-23T10:10:26.857-07:002011-07-23T10:10:26.857-07:00Add a member to Club 27.Add a <a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_OBIT_AMY_WINEHOUSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-23-12-53-42" rel="nofollow">member</a> to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club" rel="nofollow">Club 27</a>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9772134701420577202011-07-23T08:29:50.336-07:002011-07-23T08:29:50.336-07:00Oops - sorry! As mentioned before, I hadn't ha...Oops - sorry! As mentioned before, I hadn't had coffee yet. <br /><br /><a href="http://fatherstephen.wordpress.com/2011/07/21/the-god-who-sings/" rel="nofollow">Here's that link</a>. (I promise it's the right one this time!)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55915738602764112822011-07-23T08:29:14.766-07:002011-07-23T08:29:14.766-07:00Nice compliment to my String Ducky video, Julie. ...Nice compliment to my String Ducky video, Julie. :)Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89532865911462615422011-07-23T08:28:04.450-07:002011-07-23T08:28:04.450-07:00Julie... the link to the essay "The God Who s...Julie... the link to the essay "The God Who sings" goes to the same link as the guitar strings resonance seen through the shutter speed of a camera.<br /><br />Could you point out the specific essay, Julie?Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-8147305410118965062011-07-23T07:19:37.080-07:002011-07-23T07:19:37.080-07:00Thank you, Julie.
I loved it as much as I loved m...Thank you, Julie.<br /><br />I loved it as much as I loved mythology/Faerie-Tales and read it over and over and over along with the classic stories about Zeus and Athena and Aseops Fables.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-92154844639466654862011-07-23T07:06:56.369-07:002011-07-23T07:06:56.369-07:00O, indeed.
Good passage selection, Cond. As a kid...O, indeed.<br /><br />Good passage selection, Cond. As a kid I tried to read as much of Tolkien as I could, but seem to recall getting bogged down somewhere in the <i>Silmarillion</i>, and that was the end of that.<br /><br />Now that I have a little more perspective, I wonder if it would be worth a second look?juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41784192432732171252011-07-23T06:58:54.695-07:002011-07-23T06:58:54.695-07:00" But some people just drone on and play the ..." But some people just drone on and play the same notes over and over, like certain trolls."<br /><br />----------------<br /><br />From 'The music of the Ainur':<br /><br />"The next Theme had a sound unlike the others before it. It began quietly amid the confusion of the Second Theme, and sounded like the rippling of soft and sweet notes. It gained power and depth over time, until two completely different songs were being made. One was filled with "immeasurable sorrow", which gave it tremendous beauty, while the other was a loud, pompous theme playing in violent opposition to it. Nevertheless, this repetitive theme could not overcome the sorrowful one, and the latter merely took the former's greatest notes and "[wove them] into its own solemn pattern... <br /><br />Then Ilúvatar spoke, and he said: ‘Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor; but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Ilúvatar, those things that ye have sung, I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye have done. And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.’". <br /><br />http://www.pcgamingbuzz.com/2011/great-tolkien-passages-the-music-of-the-ainur/<br /><br />--------------<br /><br />I especially like the part where he says this "Nevertheless, this repetitive theme could not overcome the sorrowful one, and the latter merely took the former's greatest notes and "[wove them] into its own solemn pattern".<br /><br />I think Tolkien (and you) really encapsulated a Truth that Idealogues and Demogogues (those who speak Half Truths) don't understand:<br /><br />Truth transcends their Half Truths and enfolds it into its theme to make the Turht even greater INSPITE of those Heresies.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-49472585403248763102011-07-23T06:57:44.482-07:002011-07-23T06:57:44.482-07:00(oops - I seem to be having parenthetical difficul...(oops - I seem to be having parenthetical difficulties. Time for coffee...)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25036400369009627762011-07-23T06:56:44.639-07:002011-07-23T06:56:44.639-07:00Speaking of strings, here's a nifty video of t...Speaking of strings, here's a nifty video of them <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKF6nFzpHBU" rel="nofollow">in action</a>.<br /><br />As to the singing, there's a good essay at Father Stephen's on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKF6nFzpHBU" rel="nofollow">The God Who SIngs</a> )and as an aside, that icon is just gorgeous.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72740677272064412662011-07-23T06:40:06.655-07:002011-07-23T06:40:06.655-07:00"This is mentioned on pp. 22-23, where it com..."This is mentioned on pp. 22-23, where it compares the cosmos to a holographic, multidimensional musical score that may support diverse interpretations."<br /><br />Yea... like the scietific theory of 'String Theory'<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvBW_8Jw8Lo<br /><br />Even the Hard Sciences have music. The Music of the Spheres...Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15207404504946342762011-07-23T06:35:48.073-07:002011-07-23T06:35:48.073-07:00Ah.. you already answered my question.
Thanks Bob...Ah.. you already answered my question.<br /><br />Thanks Bob.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37620900545466284322011-07-23T06:35:25.983-07:002011-07-23T06:35:25.983-07:00Usually when we confront a duality, it is actually...Usually when we confront a duality, it is actually a complementarity. Thus, especially in a trinitarian cosmos, there is no need to reduce word and music to one or the other, for as John Lennon sang, the Word is Love.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5350754150624386832011-07-23T06:31:30.478-07:002011-07-23T06:31:30.478-07:00Hmmm...
Or maybe it should be in this order:
&#...Hmmm...<br /><br />Or maybe it should be in this order: <br /><br />'Song, Poetry and THEN Wurd'<br /><br />to keep it in 'tune' with the vertical and the traslation from mind to soul.<br /><br />I dunno.. your the superior 'spellcaster' in regards to truth, Bob. What seems to fit to you?Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66058499121609784752011-07-23T06:27:42.944-07:002011-07-23T06:27:42.944-07:00To the second comment, Yes again. One of the work...To the second comment, Yes again. One of the working titles of the book was the Cosmic Suite, a suite having four movements, matter, life, mind and spirit. This is mentioned on pp. 22-23, where it compares the cosmos to a holographic, multidimensional musical score that may support diverse interpretations. Each of us is our own little melody sailing over and though the chords like a jazz improvisation. There is the horizontal (melody) and the vertical (chords), which may be compared to history and archetypes, respectively.<br /><br />We could extend the analogy further, and say, for example, that the "ground note" of the performance is our body, while the more adventurous soloing takes place in the realms of mind and spirit. But some people just drone on and play the same notes over and over, like certain trolls.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41808781964936537982011-07-23T06:20:53.575-07:002011-07-23T06:20:53.575-07:00Haha!
Funny that yyou should mention Churchill an...Haha!<br /><br />Funny that yyou should mention Churchill and the cadence of his words were almost like song.<br /><br />Some one else noticed that too:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6jW9y59JY<br /><br />RAther entertaining, I would say. :)Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76205714774564349382011-07-23T06:17:21.576-07:002011-07-23T06:17:21.576-07:00..and in that respective order, too...and in that respective order, too.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19108479693278378192011-07-23T06:16:53.972-07:002011-07-23T06:16:53.972-07:00Yes, think of how Churchill held off Nazism for al...Yes, think of how Churchill held off Nazism for almost a couple of years with little more than the magic of speech. <br /><br />I think if more people were aware of this power, they wouldn't fall for someone as vacuous as Obama. Evidently, he is regarded as this great and spellbinding orator, but I don't recall ever hearing him utter an intelligent sentence. <br /><br />I think this is because in this scientistic/materialistic age, people no longer know how to understand and use rhetoric, which, in the classic sense, is an important tool to help convince people of a truth. Instead, "rhetoric" has devolved to mere demagoguery, so people can't tell the difference.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.com