tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post6670652968528752972..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: The Picture of Dorwinian GrayGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39873461473751842482009-02-26T05:29:00.000-08:002009-02-26T05:29:00.000-08:00Julie,Thanks for responding. BTW, the "distinctio...Julie,<BR/>Thanks for responding. BTW, the "distinction" between petros and perta is not true. There is no distinction at all. It's Kepha all the way. Jesus changed Simon's name to Rock, Kepha, Peter- not little stone.<BR/><BR/>PatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65343735089611291702009-02-25T08:51:00.000-08:002009-02-25T08:51:00.000-08:00Pat, I referenced it because from my point of view...Pat, I referenced it because from <I>my</I> point of view it provided a bit of context which I had previously been lacking (I think I knew Peter meant "rock," but I didn't <I>really</I> know it, much less the distinction between "petra" and "petros." That's <I>completely</I> new to me). I wasn't thinking of Popes or Orthodoxy or Catholicism, I was thinking that Jesus was making rather a funny joke at the time, which also happened to be Absolutely serious. Can you picture Peter's expression? Mixed in with the Awe must have been a big dose of ?!?!.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70889883067673443052009-02-25T08:03:00.000-08:002009-02-25T08:03:00.000-08:00Matthew, what is interesting is that Fr. Schmemann...Matthew, what is interesting is that Fr. Schmemann said the same thing - that notion of the rock and hard place. Socialism is not the Christian answer because it eliminates active personal sacrifice, without which there is no freedom (Walt mentioned it too.)Ephrem Antony Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032465992619034619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-68856841561350940712009-02-25T07:38:00.000-08:002009-02-25T07:38:00.000-08:00A unified view that embraces both the practicality...A unified view that embraces both the practicality of science and materialism, and the transcendence of values that touch the beyond and admit to morality being more than just arbitrary (i.e. religion done right), is in some ways the biggest single need of our time.<BR/><BR/>The west's materialism is in collapse, and the religions of both west and east have so far failed to rise to the challenge of true integration. The 'stimulus' and its ilk will fail to save us from general societal disintegration if some sort of values or movements don't help us all re-prioritize. As gagdad aptly points out, we need unification, not the obliteration of difference implicit in communism and today's leftist postmodern nonsense (and explicit in Islam).<BR/><BR/>So-- as long as we're blowing trillions of dollars and mortgaging the planet's future in what's currently a futile attempt to stave off disaster, why not take the extra step-- we HAVE a tool to integrate the spiritual and the material, to bring justice and reboot the system. It's called Jubilee...<BR/>http://newjerutalmud.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/crisis-a-great-excuse-for-jubilee/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12386196395411450712009-02-25T06:52:00.000-08:002009-02-25T06:52:00.000-08:00Yes, but Peter still wasn't the first Pope. Histor...Yes, but Peter still wasn't the first Pope. Historically, Patriarchs or Popes did not arise until later, since their function was to be an overseer of overseers; i.e, you need to have a number of bishops - churches - already to need a metabishop. <BR/><BR/>What the passage says - in terms of the nitty-gritty of the Greek - is pointless! Peter gives that authority to the Apostles, who give it to their followers, and so on, primarily through ordination, but also through simple baptism. It's Paradosis. <BR/><BR/>What is important about the passage is less about Peter himself and more about 'paradosis' passed-down teaching. The scriptures are one of the kinds of Paradosis (take note that for the first half to full century it all was handed down directly) but there are others. Often the sayings of the Fathers are strange and somewhat incomprehensible unless one also has the 'invisible' components. Likewise with the scripture. <BR/><BR/>The Roman Catholics have made the mistake of placing all of their Catholicity in Peter; it requires a level of historical revision - and not just interpretation - to create the notion that the first Pope is Peter. <BR/><BR/>If we believe that scripture interprets itself, that is, that no authority is handed down, then tell me why Jesus contradicts himself, where in one place he says, "resist the devil and he shall flee from you" in another he says, "resist not the evil man" and in yet another, "flee from the devil"? I'll find the exact scriptures if anyone is interested in this controversy. The real truth is that Jesus is referring to different things, but the 'other half' is handed down and not 'literal'.Ephrem Antony Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032465992619034619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-32699724041866894332009-02-25T05:57:00.000-08:002009-02-25T05:57:00.000-08:00Julie,Not sure why you referenced the small piece ...Julie,<BR/>Not sure why you referenced the small piece on Matt. 16. It was not a very good explanation of the text from any point of view. Not to mention it renders the whole "perspicuity" of Scripture argument meaningless;which is pretty much what it is-meaningless.<BR/><BR/>patAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58395587770713458322009-02-25T04:19:00.000-08:002009-02-25T04:19:00.000-08:00Good grief NoMo the petra versus petros is one of ...Good grief NoMo the petra versus petros is one of the more lame protestant arguments against the authority vested to St. Peter by our Lord Jesus Christ himself. Surely you can do better than that.<BR/><BR/>wv = clearies ~ clear eyesphil ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15486481489355451711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6741651940570551112009-02-25T01:38:00.000-08:002009-02-25T01:38:00.000-08:00A thousand smiles she gives to meTake anything you...A thousand smiles she gives to me<BR/>Take anything you want from me.<BR/><BR/>Jimi Hendrix<BR/>(Little Wing)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72094223747121008672009-02-25T01:22:00.000-08:002009-02-25T01:22:00.000-08:00Bob,I know you love music, and our tastes don't al...Bob,<BR/><BR/>I know you love music, and our tastes don't always line up, bur come on, in terms of pure rock virtuosity...<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-AYAv0IoWIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27164377049019751212009-02-25T01:07:00.000-08:002009-02-25T01:07:00.000-08:00Bob is one of the great intellucuals of the past 2...Bob is one of the great intellucuals of the past 25 years. If I didnn't know that myself, i sure do now thanks to a prof who took the time to review his posts.<BR/><BR/>Nice to be on a winning team, although Montreal Canadians are looking weak again this year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26564154975845166332009-02-24T21:27:00.000-08:002009-02-24T21:27:00.000-08:00That's actually an interesting little essay; so mu...That's actually an interesting little essay; so much gets lost in translation, but it sounds like one of those guffawha type of pronouncements, only hardly anyone gets the joke these days. And once it's been explained, it isn't quite as funny. I'll bet <I>He</I> was laughing, anyway.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10774514692490062532009-02-24T21:21:00.000-08:002009-02-24T21:21:00.000-08:00dummie, see heredummie, see <A HREF="http://www.gotquestions.org/upon-this-rock.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50913294976088372082009-02-24T20:26:00.000-08:002009-02-24T20:26:00.000-08:00Dear Anonymous at 3:33pm -- I thought you guys wer...Dear Anonymous at 3:33pm -- I thought you guys were very religious; have you never heard of <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(Biblical)" REL="nofollow">Jubilee</A>? Forgiveness of debts is built into Biblical law.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-42986074750977628062009-02-24T18:39:00.000-08:002009-02-24T18:39:00.000-08:00Nomo, please elaborate & clarify the differenc...Nomo, please elaborate & clarify the difference between petra and petros.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23938253455333311472009-02-24T18:01:00.000-08:002009-02-24T18:01:00.000-08:00Anon - Speaking from the reformed, and, I believe,...Anon - Speaking from the reformed, and, I believe, orthodox perspective, I suggest you look much more deeply into the meaning of Matthew 16:18. That is, the difference between petra and petros.<BR/><BR/>"Proper authority" indeed.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34181943070807516892009-02-24T17:25:00.000-08:002009-02-24T17:25:00.000-08:00YO! YO! Where da ho?YO! YO! Where da ho?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65125783709770987632009-02-24T16:52:00.000-08:002009-02-24T16:52:00.000-08:00Simply put, I am reminded of our Lord's words that...Simply put, I am reminded of our Lord's words that people love the darkness more than the love the light. I believe most of what we see with the liberal mindset (and to the same extreme in the opposite direction with some conservatives)is willful ignorance- they "choose" (in the most proper sense of the word, ie. heresy)to see things the way they do. Call it Grace resisted if you will. This will definately make one stupid.<BR/><BR/>I've always had this notion that Heretics and Protestants suffer from one huge problem among many. All the good, beautiful and right interpretations have already been taken, thus leaving them always falling short of the mark. Proper authority is truly a very important thing to have a grasp on.<BR/><BR/>PatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5775918285555258182009-02-24T15:37:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:37:00.000-08:00okay...I had to vent somewhere. Now back to your r...okay...I had to vent somewhere. <BR/><BR/>Now back to your regularly scheduled blogramming. <BR/><BR/>Thank you and have a nice day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72674737411706374632009-02-24T15:33:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:33:00.000-08:00I just saw a facebook group entitled "Cancel Stude...I just saw a facebook group entitled "Cancel Student Loan Debt to Stimulate the Economy"<BR/><BR/>Are people really that confused that they think that someone *else* should pay for their college debts...which they choose to enter into? Has it really come this far? And how far further will our intelligence/common sense fall...<BR/><BR/>Boy, what a sucker *I* am...I went to a state school, decided a master degree in music wasn't worth the 60 grand. I've lived with that choice. <BR/><BR/>I highly doubt anything will come from such a foolish notion, but GB when you are right you are right. It's taken me a while to see it this clearly but: The Psycho-spiritual Left is just plain NUTS!<BR/><BR/>Okay...*breathe*...phew...I am all worked up!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10987647489146038492009-02-24T15:15:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:15:00.000-08:00River, I think that genuine spiritual self-examina...River, I think that genuine spiritual self-examination and attentiveness requires something of a meditative state - it's a bracing, energizing awareness that is devoid of fantasy, devoid of, as they say, "roof brain chatter."<BR/><BR/>Mere speculative musing on one's successes/failures is really a fantasizing, as I see it. It certainly isn't self-examination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66998919844248428272009-02-24T15:06:00.000-08:002009-02-24T15:06:00.000-08:00Dammit Jim!Dammit Jim!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-21221696486540127512009-02-24T12:59:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:59:00.000-08:00will: Priest-confessors can tell you that there is...will: Priest-confessors can tell you that there is even a kind of prideful self examination; An exaggeration would be, "I wasn't able to leap to the moon today." Failings, but not sins, real errors. I guess the contrast between Dorian looking in the mirror and him seeing his 'inner portrait'.Ephrem Antony Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032465992619034619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37399701364626382632009-02-24T12:33:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:33:00.000-08:00>>we imagine we are mastering matter, when i...>>we imagine we are mastering matter, when it is really matter that is slowly mastering us<<<BR/><BR/>Well, it's simple pride at the root of the scientism abomination, isn't it? Pride of abiiity to examine, categorize, and manipulate matter. <BR/><BR/>The proud mind dominated by scientism is willing to examine and manipulate everything save for itself. (Consciousness Studies do not count)<BR/><BR/>I don't think pride can ultimately exist in a self-examined, truly self-aware consciousness. I would think that Shakespeare and other great artists ultimately derived their powers of insight into human nature from just that - in-sight, a self-examination so keen that it could be universalized. <BR/><BR/>wv: "palin" . . . hmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-80280149647162008712009-02-24T12:10:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:10:00.000-08:00Could it be that this is one of the primary causes...<I>Could it be that this is one of the primary causes of the general coarsening and re-barbarization of our culture? I don't think there is any doubt about it.</I><BR/><BR/>Me neither.<BR/><BR/><I>And not just the mastery of form, but the equal mastery of insight into human nature.</I><BR/><BR/>That's true. Shakespeare is unequaled, especially considering the breadth of what he could convey. If he were a movie director, he be somewhat like Chaplin, John Ford, Howard Hawks, Billy Wilder, Frank Capra, and Hitchcock rolled into one. <BR/><BR/><I>But somewhere in the radical secularist's attic is a picture of his reptilian soul.</I><BR/><BR/>OK, that's why the B'ob is Dear Leader for life at least -- this post is <B>art</B>.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30027635635055407132009-02-24T12:09:00.000-08:002009-02-24T12:09:00.000-08:00I dunno Walt…don’t you want to see her brain scan ...I dunno Walt…don’t you want to see her brain scan first before jumping to conclusions?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.com