tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post6584464675181863606..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Scientistic Simpletons and the Church of the Immaculate DeductionGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23265060210728654832009-12-08T19:43:39.915-08:002009-12-08T19:43:39.915-08:00Actually, I heard "the science is settled&quo...Actually, I heard "the science is settled" uttered on the Diane Rehm show this past summer--by Ms. Rehm, who is hardly a right-winger. She said this quite condescendingly to a skeptic who was questioning the data sources for the most recent U.S. study.Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23517287294412977272009-12-08T10:06:14.952-08:002009-12-08T10:06:14.952-08:00It is, I will risk saying, invariably true, that t...It is, I will risk saying, invariably true, that the leftist's first thought in evaluating a man or his opinions is the intelligence of the man. Of which he has no idea. <br /><br />But the reason is simple. Intellegence is the only thing the leftist owns except his arrogance. <br /><br />When I go to hear a violinist play a concerto with orchestra, I do not ask myself how talented he is, how many hours he has practiced, who he has studied with, or what instrument he is playing on. That is entirely his reponsibility. I will know soon if I wish to stay or go. That is mine.<br /><br />Those on the left will not go to that trouble, because they don't know and are afraid to learn. And they are intelligent enough to keep up the game and dodge the consequences, which leads to ever more bizzare results.xlbrlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01931950075332608449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-18987324818013784372009-12-07T22:03:33.344-08:002009-12-07T22:03:33.344-08:00"Likewise, even despite the revelations of we..."Likewise, even despite the revelations of weathergate, these pinheads persist in their insane project of destroying the world's economy -- its wealth-producing mechanism -- to "solve" a problem that doesn't exist. Millions will die as a result -- just as millions have died of malaria in Africa due to the "success" of radical environmentalists in banning DDT. For these radicals, the death of one child due to malaria is a tragedy, but the death of 50 million is a smashing success."<br /><br />The awful people's awful arithmetic. Wouldn't it be nice if they could be clued in to the one actual peril to the world, the worlds poor, and their children - radical leftist do-gooders.<br /><br />As if.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9014172283223864612009-12-07T21:57:48.085-08:002009-12-07T21:57:48.085-08:00"Perhaps this idea of the "worship of in..."Perhaps this idea of the "worship of intelligence" is new to you, but it is the blue thread that runs through the modern left extending over the past century or so. Although it is primarily a narcissistic exercise in self-flattery, those who are not members of the cult are not just considered wrong, but dismissed as morons. But one of the bases of wisdom -- which transcends the mere intellectualism of the tenured -- is to know the limits of intelligence. And the left repeatedly fails in this regard, again, because of the replacement of God with human (small r) reason. "<br /><br />That reminds me of this quote, which gave me the giggles this weekend, by <a href="http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=99&chapter=48507&layout=html&Itemid=27" rel="nofollow">Thomas Babington, Lord Macaulay</a>, reviewing one of the granddaddy's of the left, Mill's (J.S. Mills dad) 'On Government',<br /><br />"<i>...We think that the theory of Mr. Mill rests altogether on false principles, and that even on those false principles he does not reason logically. Nevertheless, we do not think it strange that his speculations should have filled the Utilitarians with admiration. We have been for some time past inclined to suspect that these people, whom some regard as the lights of the world and others as incarnate demons, are in general ordinary men, with narrow understandings and little information. The contempt which they express for elegant literature is evidently the contempt of ignorance. We apprehend that many of them are persons who, having read little or nothing, are delighted to be rescued from the sense of their own inferiority by some teacher who assures them that the studies which they have neglected are of no value, puts five or six phrases into their mouths, lends them an odd number of the Westminster Review, and in a month transforms them into philosophers. Mingled with these smatterers, whose attainments just suffice to elevate them from the insignificance of dunces to the dignity of bores, and to spread dismay among their pious aunts and grandmothers, there are, we well know, many well-meaning men who have really read and thought much; but whose reading and meditation have been almost exclusively confined to one class of subjects; and who, consequently, though they possess much valuable knowledge respecting those subjects, are by no means so well qualified to judge of a great system as if they had taken a more enlarged view of literature and society.<br /><br />Nothing is more amusing or instructive than to observe the manner in which people who think themselves wiser than all the rest of the world fall into snares which the simple good sense of their neighbours detects and avoids. It is one of the principal tenets of the Utilitarians that sentiment and eloquence serve only to impede the pursuit of truth. They therefore affect a quakerly plainness, or rather a cynical negligence and impurity, of style. The strongest arguments, when clothed in brilliant language, seem to them so much wordy nonsense. In the mean time they surrender their understandings, with a facility found in no other party, to the meanest and most abject sophisms, provided those sophisms come before them disguised with the externals of demonstration. They do not seem to know that logic has its illusions as well as rhetoric,—that a fallacy may lurk in a syllogism as well as in a metaphor.</i> ..."<br /><br />Ah, the more things change, the more they remain the same.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19336810992961815402009-12-07T20:58:30.208-08:002009-12-07T20:58:30.208-08:00No, only three!No, only three!Tigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54500049234155624712009-12-07T20:36:12.157-08:002009-12-07T20:36:12.157-08:00Fore!!Fore!!Elinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34723844300333714482009-12-07T20:09:44.477-08:002009-12-07T20:09:44.477-08:00"The Science is Settled" is a phrase onl..."The Science is Settled" is a phrase only deployed by right-wing denialists such as yourselves. <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/12/unsettled-science/#more-2187" rel="nofollow">See here</a>. Science is never absolutely settled, <br /><br />The depth of the original authors ignorance and distortion about science in general is pretty astounding. Just to warn your readers: if you pay attention to this man, you will end up stupider than when you started. If you want to learn about science, listen to scientists, not resentful raving loons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44986679339760802532009-12-07T19:40:19.138-08:002009-12-07T19:40:19.138-08:00Such as?Such as?Tigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-16710091052473149512009-12-07T19:33:56.274-08:002009-12-07T19:33:56.274-08:00As a corollary, the same can often be said of &quo...As a corollary, the same can often be said of "for richer and for poorer." Being richer can be far more challenging, since it opens up whole new vistas of possibility for bad behavior that generally aren't available otherwise.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20846835061585504842009-12-07T19:29:21.608-08:002009-12-07T19:29:21.608-08:00I was just thinking over all this "the scienc...I was just thinking over all this "the science is settled" nonsense just this morning--not just re: climate-quiddick but also about other so called "science" aimed at propping up policy goals (like, say, secondhand smoke "studies"--based on phone surveys...). <br /><br />No real scientist worth his salt would dare utter that phrase. True realists acknowledge that they can't even begin to know what they don't know--even while doggedly pursuing it.Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53297448479167275142009-12-07T18:52:29.642-08:002009-12-07T18:52:29.642-08:00“For example, every psychotherapist knows that if ...“For example, every psychotherapist knows that if one spouse becomes healthier, this poses a threat to the marriage itself.”<br /><br />So True. In my case anyway. If'n I had the smarts, I could write a book.<br />The family climate changes in unpredictable ways. <br />Both people <i>must</i> be willing to accept thiers and the others' shortcomings, blame, etc.Dougmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08468871451814828157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52639352268389620672009-12-07T17:33:07.133-08:002009-12-07T17:33:07.133-08:00Well, that's why they say "in sickness an...Well, that's why they say "in sickness and in <i>health</i>," the latter being the trickier of the two.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-36219704389634528252009-12-07T16:52:23.337-08:002009-12-07T16:52:23.337-08:00“For example, every psychotherapist knows that if ...“For example, every psychotherapist knows that if one spouse becomes healthier, this poses a threat to the marriage itself.”<br /><br />Bob, is it me, or are you just looking for a fight? I mean, the one getting well is the trouble-maker?<br /><br />WV: People just like to say <i>palsa</i>.<br /><br />RRRickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28059234078329387502009-12-07T16:24:16.407-08:002009-12-07T16:24:16.407-08:00Then you, sir, are a Holocaust denier. And if you...Then you, sir, are a Holocaust denier. And if you oppose socialized medicine, you are pro-slavery to boot.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-29586062092984922782009-12-07T16:16:52.486-08:002009-12-07T16:16:52.486-08:00As for Copenhagen and the confederacy of dunces cu...As for Copenhagen and the confederacy of dunces currently stinking up that dreary city -- I pledge to stop being so lazy and start taking more carbon-spewing international trips than ever. 2010 I'll try to fly as much as possible, and I'll install more 150W incandescent light bulbs too.Stephen Macdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474300559219020772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74073301882855497412009-12-07T16:04:33.681-08:002009-12-07T16:04:33.681-08:00Catching up on a few posts...
Yesterday's obs...Catching up on a few posts...<br /><br />Yesterday's observation about how Westerners and Asians have different modes of thinking certainly makes sense to me. Tokyo or Beijing are <i>radically</i> different from where I am now -- the foundation of Western Civilization. Superficially Rome is a city like Tokyo, but dig a bit deeper and it could be different "species" we're seeing (as always, this has zero to do with "race"). <br /><br />Rome simply overflows with a sense of "the Person" -- far more so than any North American city. Much probably has to do with it being several thousand years old and the center of the Christian world, but Israel also has that "as above, so below" sense too.<br /><br />I know one Buddhist very well. I can say that there is much of value in that tradition, but unlike, say, Judsaism (or possibly even Hinduism) I can't imagine Buddhism as an <i>alternative</i> to Christianity for me. Also I've noticed he gets quite tetchy when the notion of a Personal Being is even mentioned. Odd, but Bob's post helped to clarify this.Stephen Macdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474300559219020772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-68374004908213799952009-12-07T15:37:59.004-08:002009-12-07T15:37:59.004-08:00Northern Bandit: I'm jealous - you bring back ...Northern Bandit: I'm jealous - you bring back fond memories of my trip there two years ago. <br /><br />Enjoy! Wandering away from the piazza's is the best way to find real local food (and much cheaper!)Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12164380825209501612009-12-07T15:31:22.700-08:002009-12-07T15:31:22.700-08:00Report from a Coon Abroad:
My hotel is a few hund...Report from a Coon Abroad:<br /><br />My hotel is a few hundred yards from the Sistine Chapel. Wed. will go to St. Peter's Bascilica to attend Pope's mass (if he's in town) and to see <a href="http://theinspirationroom.com/daily/print/2007/4/pieta-michelangelo.jpg" rel="nofollow">La Pieta</a> which quite seriously makes my knees go weak -- it is overwhelming. <br /><br />Rome is great in December as long as you don't mind a bit of cooler weather. Hung out at Piazza Novana today and met a friend who lives here. He took us for "real" Italian food in some back-street place that only locals know about yadda yadda. It was really, really great pizza though.Stephen Macdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13474300559219020772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-46078002290542160992009-12-07T15:03:35.617-08:002009-12-07T15:03:35.617-08:00as a term, "warmmongers" is golden coina...as a term, "warmmongers" is golden coinageGradusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-2373239925890930242009-12-07T12:41:54.156-08:002009-12-07T12:41:54.156-08:00Fritz Wagner over at Voegelin View has an insightf...Fritz Wagner over at <a href="http://www.voegelinview.com/future-commentary.html" rel="nofollow">Voegelin View</a> has an insightful observation on Climategate.Mizz Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02325435271880036807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45157489481574748882009-12-07T12:11:32.237-08:002009-12-07T12:11:32.237-08:00...more tears are shed as a result of answered pra...<i>...more tears are shed as a result of answered prayers than unanswered ones.</i><br /><br />I've never heard that adage before. How true.<br /><br />Re. the warmmongers, the number of news articles in the past couple weeks admonishing people to do more to save the earth seems to have grown by leaps and bounds, and the urgency of the situation grows with each article. They're so deeply invested in their beliefs, they're resorting to a metaphorical jihad against the weather infidels, doing their utmost to destroy the evidence and general knowledge of their essential wrongness. The sacred cow must not be melted down, lest the world come to a scorching end. Or their funding be cut off...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14821758367754654342009-12-07T10:39:24.157-08:002009-12-07T10:39:24.157-08:00Re the "worship of intelligence" -
Here...Re the "worship of intelligence" -<br /><br />Here's an opinion from a master potter, Soetsu Yanagi, regarding Beauty (and I suspect it applies to Truth and Goodness as well):<br /><i>"One should refrain from becoming a student of aesthetics just because one has a good brain; to know a lot about beauty is no qualification. In understanding beauty, intuition is more of the essence than intellectual perception. To "see" is to go direct to the core; to know the facts about an object of beauty is to go around the periphery."</i><br /><br />But our "self-anointed" overlords continue to design a brave new world for us, since they know what sort of "beauty" we'll be needing.<br /><br />And speaking of "aesthetics," an article I read yesterday which summarized all the various points about Climategate concluded with, <i>"Ultimately, there are <b>billions of dollars</b> to be made off of global warming."</i> And that's the essence of "green."walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10734482129844454492009-12-07T10:38:08.827-08:002009-12-07T10:38:08.827-08:00Here is a an example - a quote from an acton insti...Here is a an example - a quote from an acton institute blog... <a href="http://blog.acton.org/archives/13141-deacons-secularism-and-the-welfare-state.html" rel="nofollow">blog</a>...<<br /><i>The church helped to bring about the welfare state in two ways. First, the Church embodied the idea of loving self-sacrifice in service of others. “The Word which the Church proclaims demands charity and justice for the poor. As this Word has permeated at least the Western world, an alerted public conscience has demanded public welfare,” write DeKoster and Berghoef. “The Church is the parent of the welfare community.”<br /><br />But this “welfare community” became secularized when the Church “did not, and perhaps in some respects could not, measure up to her own ideals. Not all the starving were fed, not all of the homeless given shelter, not all of the oppressed and exploited relieved. The cries of the needy ascended to heaven. The Lord answered with the welfare state. The government undertakes to do what the Church demands and then fails to achieve by herself.”<br /></i>Alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24474880530104394342009-12-07T10:16:24.301-08:002009-12-07T10:16:24.301-08:00...untinker and there're no climate scientists......untinker and there're no climate scientists..<br /><br />RR :-)Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33992989348984464422009-12-07T09:56:28.859-08:002009-12-07T09:56:28.859-08:00Perhaps God, in his infinite wisdom, is aware of t...<i>Perhaps God, in his infinite wisdom, is aware of the incredibly complex and delicate web that makes anything function at all. </i><br /><br />Yes. For example, it is snowing out right now, big flakes gliding diagonally through trees to land on outstretched bare branches. Utter and mesmerizing beauty.<br /><br />'Simple' principles are involved - temperature, air pressure, resistance, crystallization, gravity - all creating a unique manifestation far exceeding the sum of their parts. Tinker with any single element and there's no Christmas.robinstarfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15665546554663005609noreply@blogger.com