tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post5946644558310140578..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Spiritual Words and the Realities To Which They ReferGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-18670352101168651342010-06-17T06:09:38.997-07:002010-06-17T06:09:38.997-07:00Jack said "Ah, yes...he plays Basketball. I w...Jack said "Ah, yes...he plays Basketball. I wonder what he learned from doing so?"<br /><br />Uhm... that white men can't jump?<br /><br />;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44012031929958626612010-06-17T05:41:26.316-07:002010-06-17T05:41:26.316-07:00Ah, yes...he plays Basketball. I wonder what he le...Ah, yes...he plays Basketball. I wonder what he learned from doing so?Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12583135877809355252010-06-17T05:40:17.703-07:002010-06-17T05:40:17.703-07:00Van-
Excellent point. How is it that John Wooden ...Van-<br /><br />Excellent point. How is it that John Wooden emphasizes *character* above all and wins so many championships and yet we still emphasize cheap theatrics and self-glorification over sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is about facing one's limitations and yet choosing to continue in spite of them. Ironically the attack on competition as unhealthy and the self-esteem-"everyone gets a trophy"-mentality only seems to make one MORE selfish and LESS equipped to deal with reality. <br /><br />The problem with not teaching boys (in particular) to deal with reality, specifically through sports, is that when reality comes knocking (and it always will, eventually) it's still going to deal with THEM.<br /><br />Did Obama play sports?Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25215006516742116342010-06-16T21:43:45.126-07:002010-06-16T21:43:45.126-07:00About the Sports issue, there's a danger of lo...About the Sports issue, there's a danger of looking at playing sports in the same way that we look at getting an education. If you aren't particular about the sort of education you get, it is far more likely to destroy you, than develop you.<br /><br />In the same way, Sports without an emphasis on Sportsmanship, is far more likely to lead you to become an O.J. Simpson, than a Lou Gehrig.<br /><br />Supposedly Wellington said that "The battle of Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton"... presumably he wouldn't have said the same about playing fields filled with the likes of Barry Bonds, Jose Canseco and Plaxico Burress.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34306098177460461842010-06-16T21:42:21.845-07:002010-06-16T21:42:21.845-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11840631084114171962010-06-16T21:30:59.376-07:002010-06-16T21:30:59.376-07:00(How was that for pithy?)
wv feeling spooky again...(How was that for pithy?)<br /><br />wv feeling spooky again:<br />wichriseVan Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72904449619062472842010-06-16T21:30:23.259-07:002010-06-16T21:30:23.259-07:00Jack said "Without getting *too* dark can a f...Jack said "Without getting *too* dark can a free society survive when it stops even *talking* about Goodness, Beauty and Truth let alone doing what one can to cultivate these in one's own life?"<br /><br />No.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75802361566003707422010-06-16T19:28:09.220-07:002010-06-16T19:28:09.220-07:00I don't see how. I mean, who will join the mi...I don't see how. I mean, who will join the military in order to fight for the right of leftist Supreme Court nominees to ban military recruiting at Harvard?Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23445545832763169562010-06-16T19:24:56.066-07:002010-06-16T19:24:56.066-07:00So where do we then, as a culture, transmit and cu...So where do we then, as a culture, transmit and cultivate virtue? Or is that just an "antiquated" notion in a postmodern society? Have we replaced virtue with mere "preference" and "lifestyle"? <br /><br />Without getting *too* dark can a free society survive when it stops even *talking* about Goodness, Beauty and Truth let alone doing what one can to cultivate these in one's own life?Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30374803478073937102010-06-16T19:14:18.444-07:002010-06-16T19:14:18.444-07:00Let us not leave out politicians!Let us not leave out politicians!Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78449691215410330982010-06-16T19:13:25.309-07:002010-06-16T19:13:25.309-07:00In Pieper's book he mentions a relevant quote ...In Pieper's book he mentions a relevant quote by Nietzsche, to the effect that those who are addicted to honor are resistant to being loved. As such, they replace real love with the false adoration of the crowd, but it's a hole that can never be filled. No surprise that so many athletes and show-biz people have such disordered lives.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76557443922843187272010-06-16T19:06:10.380-07:002010-06-16T19:06:10.380-07:00Alas, yes...you are right. One might contrast a co...Alas, yes...you are right. One might contrast a constrained vision of sports that focuses on developing and maintaining character--and that in the face of both victory and defeat and an unconstrained version that revels in the wondrousness of the undeveloped self that avoids any real challenge to its delusions. <br /><br />Narcissism does sell. When does a touchdown dance go from exuberance to poor sportsmanship? Are we, as a culture, even able to make that distinction anymore?Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75719065227972274382010-06-16T18:46:10.891-07:002010-06-16T18:46:10.891-07:00No, not at all -- except that sports has become so...No, not at all -- except that sports has become so contaminated by narcissism and the lust for personal glory, that it can just as well backfire.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78640250635162863592010-06-16T18:14:50.719-07:002010-06-16T18:14:50.719-07:00Yes, I agree wholeheartedly...it is *very* importa...Yes, I agree wholeheartedly...it is *very* important for boys. I think, if done right, it is a path to Manhood...or at least a serious antidote to narcissism. Maybe that's part of it? Am I being too paranoid to see some relation between attacking sports and veiled attack on Manhood?Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71380442564075393312010-06-16T18:08:04.491-07:002010-06-16T18:08:04.491-07:00It's particularly critical for developing boys...It's particularly critical for developing boys. Without sports, they might try to exert power and dominance in inappropriate ways such as left wing politics.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-336856868867600942010-06-16T17:58:29.102-07:002010-06-16T17:58:29.102-07:00GB-
Maybe I am wrong, but I think it's fairly...GB-<br /><br />Maybe I am wrong, but I think it's fairly safe to say, that the unofficial, far, far left "progressive" campaign against sports has been going on for a long time. It sometimes seems that the left would be okay with sports as long as one could remove all that nasty "competition" and "winning and losing" It's all, so...so...CAPITALISTIC!! <br /><br />How much more evolved we would be if we could only move past this obsession with winning and losing and hold hands as we dance in a circle with flowers in our hair!<br /><br />The reality is that for a lot of people sports may be one of the few ways to learn to deepen and mold their character (witness John Wooden). Beyond that it may be one of the *only* ways to experience some sense of self-transcendence. You can almost see it in how someone carries themselves whether they've experienced any real athletic training.<br /><br />What one learns when their is the ever-present risk of losing and one gives it all in spite of that fact...or maybe BECAUSE of that fact. And to do so with dignity and bearing (I think it used to be called "sportsmanship"...such a quaint notion!)<br /><br />To watch others do the same at the highest level is ennobling...I am not surprised someone still blathering on about a marxist revolution doesn't understand that!Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06708393262849661076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40403733266819494702010-06-16T17:47:11.344-07:002010-06-16T17:47:11.344-07:00You know what they say -- leftism is the opiate of...You know what they say -- leftism is the opiate of the tenured.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33186944526718266482010-06-16T17:43:05.601-07:002010-06-16T17:43:05.601-07:00Hmmm. Let's see ... which thought pattern to c...Hmmm. Let's see ... which thought pattern to choose ...??<br /><br /><i>Modern societies deny men and women the experience of solidarity, which football provides to the point of collective delirium.</i><br /><br />or ...<br /><br /><i>"...fasten the will to one's highest aspiration and ... become a truly free and magnanimous spirit ..."</i><br /><br />Oh dear, which way? Which ...?walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-80408964374888741912010-06-16T17:39:31.840-07:002010-06-16T17:39:31.840-07:00Hah - that guy obviously isn't privy to the es...Hah - that guy obviously isn't privy to the esoteric secrets of Yottlism.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90895135516536341872010-06-16T17:28:01.638-07:002010-06-16T17:28:01.638-07:00Okay, if the Lakers win the championship tomorrow,...Okay, if the Lakers win the championship tomorrow, I promise to get down to the real business of rewriting history with the blood of the ruling class.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11140957403095248892010-06-16T17:22:23.514-07:002010-06-16T17:22:23.514-07:00This is pretty funny. The left just never gives u...<a href="http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2010/06/dupes-and-opium.html" rel="nofollow">This</a> is pretty funny. The left just never gives up -- sports is now the new opiate for the masses!Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62660540827935479292010-06-16T17:18:11.855-07:002010-06-16T17:18:11.855-07:00Julie -
We're fine; I was just helping a frie...Julie -<br /><br />We're fine; I was just helping a friend. A few Ø stains got on me, but they'll rinse out.<br /><br />It was a Catholic hospital, and the resident Chaplain got on the intercom and suggested a moment of prayer, offering a simple prayer of thanks to God. Folks around me continued to yap, however, and, you know: the TV blatt <i>never</i> stops.walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-17532730679321983112010-06-16T17:04:47.157-07:002010-06-16T17:04:47.157-07:00Hi Walt!
I had missed that news story. Why can'...Hi Walt!<br />I had missed that news story. Why can't she learn from Lohan's example? Or conversely, why can't her dad lock her away from the limelight for about ten years or so? If he was any kind of responsible, he would have done it after that infamous photo shoot.<br /><br />Re. the ER, I hope you & Miss V. are okay!juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15475646466861827822010-06-16T16:56:17.380-07:002010-06-16T16:56:17.380-07:00Bob, you're a tricky guy:
"...fasten the...Bob, you're a tricky guy:<br /><br /><i>"...fasten the will to one's highest aspiration and ... become a truly free and magnanimous spirit ..."</i><br /><br />You tossed that in right at the end, just for Grant, didn't you? After all his pleas for a precise "Raccoon <i>Action</i> Plan," you decided to <b>Spell. It. Out.</b> for him!<br /><br />Very clever of you.<br /><br />I liked it too. I'm gonna swipe it.<br /><br />Also this:<br />Ø <-- (•) --> O <br /><i>"...a complete account of reality requires both sides."</i><br /><br />Something about ↓ ↑ <i>requires</i> the negative pole, or "no movement."<br />Now earlier today, I was stuck in a hospital waiting room, and the ever-present Television News subjected me to the Burning Issue of the Day, regarding Ms. Cyrus' lack of undergarments, as well as "her right" to that lack, or not, etc., etc. Personally, I could have easily done without it, but there it was.walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-81095755291169461362010-06-16T16:17:54.672-07:002010-06-16T16:17:54.672-07:00grunt maker said "...and whoever doesn't ...grunt maker said "...and whoever doesn't is a..."<br /><br />grunt is a dØØ-dØØ head.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.com