tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post5340128358386993138..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: OWS and the Right of Return to Infantile ParadiseGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73216426680228872792011-12-04T08:27:01.703-08:002011-12-04T08:27:01.703-08:00And it goes without saying that he would insist th...And it goes without saying that he would insist that conservatives are only imagining the evils of the left. Admittedly, our case would be stronger if those 100 million or so corpses could speak.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79166352758920079972011-12-04T08:21:13.733-08:002011-12-04T08:21:13.733-08:00The process is identical to, say, anti-Semites who...The process is identical to, say, anti-Semites who use the Protocols of Zion to justify their hatred of the evil Jew of their imagination. Not for nothing are it and Mein Kampf perennial bestsellers in the Islamic world, just as Noam Chomsky is the most papular author on college campuses. Notice how easily literacy is hijacked by the emotions.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69852534123987197242011-12-04T08:06:07.490-08:002011-12-04T08:06:07.490-08:00I have no intention of reviving this appropriately...I have no intention of reviving this appropriately dead thread except to point out how interesting it is that William demonstrates the truth of UF's point about demons being generated as a result of perverse will + imagination.<br /><br />That is to say, he imagines that Nazism and Christianity are somehow compatible, by willfully insisting that Hitler was "pro-Christian," despite the fact that no minimally informed person would suggest such a thing. This legitimizes his prior hatred, and results in the demonic conservatives of his fevered imagination (in other words his hatred is the cause of his "truth," not vice versa). <br /><br />This demon feeds on easily correctible lies, but since the demon is in control of the host, William is literally incapable of acknowledging that he is in error. Again: perverse will is in charge.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6242181578504212832011-12-02T17:17:19.276-08:002011-12-02T17:17:19.276-08:00O.J. said "...convicted of murder if not for ...O.J. said "...convicted of murder if not for twelve brave Williams who believed me and not the evidence."<br /><br />JEWss!<br /><br />;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58459647553547020402011-12-02T17:16:24.780-08:002011-12-02T17:16:24.780-08:00Dietrich, thanks for putting what needed to be sai...Dietrich, thanks for putting what needed to be said so well... I couldn't stomach another reply.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56874344659228221482011-12-02T17:06:04.640-08:002011-12-02T17:06:04.640-08:00Dietrich, you're being a little rough on Willi...Dietrich, you're being a little rough on William. I mean, I actually know a guy who would have been falsely convicted of murder if not for twelve brave Williams who believed me and not the evidence.O.J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7763633001835320692011-12-02T16:44:43.738-08:002011-12-02T16:44:43.738-08:00It's rather amazing that liberals who have no ...It's rather amazing that liberals who have no trouble believing that George Bush is a theofascist can't wrap their minds around the fact that Hitler would lie about his utter hatred of Christianity, which he privately and openly regarded as no better than Judaism. Truly, there is no point in arguing with such a person, except to prove to oneself that absolute mental density exists.Dietrichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52565567112032114972011-12-02T12:36:43.432-08:002011-12-02T12:36:43.432-08:00... and then... willian continues to quote Adolph ...... and then... willian continues to quote Adolph Hitler, and not even from a private message, but from <i>a speech</i>, as a credible witness for his true and good intentions, having no plans whatsoever (other than his privately stated & written plans, and of course <i>the actual fact that he did do just that</i>) to transform all churches into pulpits for National Socialism with himself as the source of their new revelation... and with absolutely <i>no</i> intention of taking over the world, or anything else like that, honest... he wouldn't... I could show you more speeches where he <i>swears</i> he only want's a little more lebensraum. Honest. <br /><br />Truly your stupidity is beyond all help.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27051398462243480312011-12-02T11:52:50.707-08:002011-12-02T11:52:50.707-08:00... not to mention thinking for yourself! HAH!... not to mention <i>thinking</i> for yourself! <i>HAH!</i>Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20006553886335597002011-12-02T11:51:37.602-08:002011-12-02T11:51:37.602-08:00willian "My quotes were from Hitler himself -...willian "My quotes were from Hitler himself - which carry much more weight."<br /><br />Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex, with that woman... Monica Lewinsky."<br /><br />When most (non-leftist) people grow up(!), they discover that a persons deeds say more about what they believe, than their words. Especially if that person is a politician... or a tyrant. <br /><br />BTW willian, here's a tip - that historian, as part of documenting the actual history, recorded Hitler's words, along with his deeds. You could discover it for yourself... but of course... that'd require reading for yourself.<br /><br />Fat chance, eh?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20553413010737816602011-12-02T11:40:34.213-08:002011-12-02T11:40:34.213-08:00Note: Van has quoted from historian interpretatio...Note: Van has quoted from historian interpretations, which may certainly be valid. My quotes were from Hitler himself - which carry much more weight.<br /><br />Like the bullshit claim that pseudo intellectual Jonah Goldberg makes that "Darwinism led to Nazism," such interpretations are nothing more than ideological masturbation ... which Goldberg always has his dickbrain in his hand.<br /><br />Is that why the <b>Nazis banned Darwin's books </b>and rejected the idea that Aryans could have evolved from the lower orders of primates? Huh, Goldberg... 'Mr. Intellectual?'<br /><br />Unlike Goldberg, real scholars like Robert Richards and Daniel Gasman have <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/evolution/Severing-the-link-between-Darwin-and-Nazism.html" rel="nofollow">conclusively refuted</a> the Hitler - Darwin BS.<br /><br />Nazism was pseudo-scientific religious dogma, closely tied to the German religious culture of the time, which was almost entirely Catholic and Lutheran. Look at those quotes of Hitler again.<br /><br />Nazism was a right-wing Christian Reich - <a href="http://www.continuumbooks.com/books/detail.aspx?BookId=166691&SntUrl=148410&SubjectId=997&Subject2Id=1683" rel="nofollow">founded primarily on a Christian supersessionist theology, </a>no matter how you try to slice it for your self serving ends.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05861596158055480390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75451240265048644342011-12-02T10:57:05.389-08:002011-12-02T10:57:05.389-08:00I won't bother trying to sum that up for you w...I won't bother trying to sum that up for you willian, trying to explain nazism to you would be like trying to tell you what air smells like, but, well for the rest who can, and do, read... it's kind of self explanatory.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28614882233898084442011-12-02T10:45:14.092-08:002011-12-02T10:45:14.092-08:00(cont)
At the bottom of 238,
“On February 12, 193...(cont)<br /><br />At the bottom of 238,<br /><i>“On February 12, 1937, Dr. Zoellner resigned from the Church Committee – he had been restrained by the Gestapo from visiting Luebeck, where nine Protestant pastors had been arrested – complaining that his work had been sabotaged by the Church Minister. Dr. Kerrl replied next day in a speech to a group of submissive churchmen. He accused the vernerable ZOellner of ailing to appreciate the Nazi doctrine of Race, Blood and Soil, and clearly revealed the government’s hostility to both Protestant and Catholic churches."</i><br /><br />Top of pg 239:<br /><i>“’The party [Kerrl said] stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity IS National Socialism… National Socialism is the doing of God’s will… God’s will reveals itself in German blood… Dr. Zoellner and Count Galen [the Catholic bishop of Muenster] have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh… No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle’s Creed… True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are not called by the party and expecially by the Fuehrer to a real CHristianity… The Fuehrer is the hearld of a new revelation.’"</i><br /><br />And… ooh… wish I’d thought of googlebooks before I began typing, <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=sY8svb-MNUwC&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=%22national+reich+church+of+germany%22&source=bl&ots=FHyo-Rh4d3&sig=23B0E4B-j0R2fsAR8N_zcVfQ9VI&hl=en&ei=9RLZTrLGFc2FsAK-yoyXDg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=%22national%20reich%20church%20of%20germany%22&f=false" rel="nofollow">links to the bottom of pg240</a>, and a few pages before and after, but particularly scroll up a bit to this:<br /><br /><i>“It would be misleading to give the impression that the persecution of Protestants and Catholics by the Nazi State tore the German people asunder or even greatly aroused the vast majority of them. It did not. A people who had so lightly given up their political and cultural and economic freedoms were not, except for a relatively few, going to die or even risk imprisonment to preserve freedom of worship. What really aroused the Germans in the Thirties were the glittering successes of Hitler in providing jobs, creating prosperity, restoring Germany’s military might, and moving from one triumph to another in his foreign policy. Not many Germans lost much sleep over the arrests of a few thousand pastors and priests or over the quarreling of the various Protestant sects. And even fewer paused to reflect that under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closet to Hitler, said publicly in 1941, “National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable."<br /><br />What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program for the “National Reich Church" drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, who among his other offices held that of “the Fuehrer’s Delegate for the Entire Intellectual and Philosophical Education and Instruction for the National Socialist Party." A few of its thirty articles convey the essentials:"</i><br /><br />And you can see them in the link.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-67072871193544415212011-12-02T10:44:48.669-08:002011-12-02T10:44:48.669-08:00(cont)
For those who do read, grab yourself a cop...(cont)<br /><br />For those who do read, grab yourself a copy of William L. Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", and read from pages 234-240. A couple quick highlights, bottom of pg. 237 & carrying over to 238:<br /><br /><i>“…On the eve of the elections of delegates to the synod which would elect the Reich Bishop, Hitler personally took to the radio to “urge" the election of “German Christians" whose candidate Mueller was. The intimidation was highly successful. Bodelschwingh in the meantime had been forced to withdraw his candidacy, and the “elections" returned a majority of “German Christians," who in September at the synod in Wittenberg, where Luther had first defied Rome, elected Mueller Reich Bishop.<br /><br />But the new head of the Church, a heavy-handed man, was not able to establish a unified Church or to completely Nazify the Protestant congregations. On November 13, 1933, the day after the German people had overwhelmingly backed Hitler in a national plebiscite, the “German Christians" staged a massive rally in the Sportpalaast in Berlin. A Dr. Reinhardt Krause, the Berlin district leader of the sect, proposed the abandonment of the Old Testament, “with its tales of cattle merchants and pimps" and the revision of the New Testament with the teaching of Jesus “corresponding entirely with the demands of National Socialism." Resolutions were drawn up demanding “One People, One Reich, One Faith," requiring all pastors to take an oath of allegiance to Hitler and insisting that all churches institute the Aryan paragraph and exclude converted Jews. This was too much even for the timid Protestants who had declined to take any part in the church war, and Bishop Mueller was forced to suspend Dr. Krause and disavow him.<br /><br />In reality the struggle between the Nazi government and the churches was the age-old one of what to render unto Caesar and what to God. So far the Protestants were concerned, Hitler was insistent that if the Nazi “German Christians" could not bring the evangelical churches into line under Reich Bishop Mueller then the government itself would have to take over the direction of the churches. He had always had a certain contempt for the Protestants, who, though a tiney minority in his native Catholic Austria, comprised two thirds of the citizens of Germany. “You can do anything you want with them," he once conficed to his aides. “They will submit… they are insignificant little people, submissive as dogs, and they sweat with embarrassment when you talk to them." He was well aware that the resistance to Nazification of the Protestant churches came from a minority of pastors and an even smaller minority of worshipers."</i><br /><br />(break)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19449958881801113372011-12-02T10:44:08.751-08:002011-12-02T10:44:08.751-08:00willian said ""
Hey doofus, I know you&...willian said ""<br /><br />Hey doofus, I know you're confronting two nearly insurmountable issues here, 1) your inability to recognize that leftists lie in order to gain the favor of those they're lying to - your being afflicted with the same condition, blinds you to it in others. And 2) that fact that you don't actually read books, preferring to plagiarize what other people have said online, limits your ability to follow an issue from start to finish, and so understand what is actually going on.<br /><br />I feel fo you. So here’s a handy <a href="http://www.holocaustresearchproject.org/nazioccupation/alroseninrussia.html" rel="nofollow">online summary for you</a> of a fellow named Rosenberg (you might want to substitute a combination of <a href="http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1833" rel="nofollow">Jim Wallis</a>, <a href="http://www.missourieducationwatchdog.com/2011/09/arne-duncan-would-have-become-president.html" rel="nofollow">Arne Duncan</a> and <a href="http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2009/12/breaking-obamas-safe-schools-czar-is-promoting-porn-in-the-classroom-kevin-jennings-and-the-glsen-reading-list/" rel="nofollow">Kevin Jennings</a>.<br /><br />What Hitler appreciated in the Churches of Germany, was very similar to what Clinton, Jesse Jackson and President Obama, and all the rest, appreciate in their churches – not Christianity, but a focal point for pushing their leftist (and ultimately pagan… oops… I meant Green) agenda.<br /><br />Afraid I'll have to break this up a bit....Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55371727774967918652011-12-02T08:07:25.554-08:002011-12-02T08:07:25.554-08:00Hey aninny, here's another messenger you can s...Hey aninny, here's another <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/284671/problem-china-envy-jonah-goldberg?pg=1" rel="nofollow">messenger you can shoot</a>, he's got some cool observations about everyone's favorite, pro-working guy, ex-Union mogul, Andy Sterne. Sterne just published an op-ed on the glories of Red China, and this messenger points out that: <br /><br /><i>"To the extent that China’s economic planning “works,” it does so because China is an authoritarian country. ... You can hit your building quota a lot more easily when you can shoot inconvenient people and trample property rights at will. The Three Gorges Dam displaced more than a million people who were given three choices: move, jail, death. "</i><br /><br />That's the kind of change that proregressives believe in, right?! the <i>"We can't wait!"</i> sort of, fuhgeddaboud the rules and make things happen hopey-changey stuff, right?<br /><br />Oh, and here's a nifty book by the same messenger, it'll help fill you in on all sorts of nifty Hitler facts, you'll absolutely <i>love</i> denying <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385511841/ref=nosim/nationalreviewon" rel="nofollow">Liberal Fascism</a>, I know, because we love it so here.<br /><br />Ok, enjoy your morning!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71828394699432471662011-12-02T07:30:04.952-08:002011-12-02T07:30:04.952-08:00And hey, they've managed to solve the obesity ...And hey, they've managed to solve the obesity problem, too! Plus there's no worry about income inequality. Not even soldiers get exceptional pay. Except for Dear Leader, of course, but he's like a god or something, so that's cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-85759844582078960382011-12-02T07:25:53.430-08:002011-12-02T07:25:53.430-08:00Charcoal burning trucks? Those guys are on to some...Charcoal burning trucks? Those guys are on to something, there. Trees are totally a renewable resource, not like those awful petroleum products! Score one for socialism!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83436234273476207822011-12-02T07:23:28.046-08:002011-12-02T07:23:28.046-08:00Apropos, the NorksApropos, <a href="http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2011/12/01/the-jealous-god/" rel="nofollow">the Norks</a>juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37525574584442734902011-12-02T07:18:48.925-08:002011-12-02T07:18:48.925-08:00Hitler would not lie!
And George Washington can b...Hitler would not lie!<br /><br />And George Washington can be forgiven for not knowing that in our day "liberal" means the opposite of his use of the word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9221986897620872952011-12-02T07:13:54.271-08:002011-12-02T07:13:54.271-08:00You know what they say about the dangers of genoci...You know what they say about the dangers of genocide: it can lead to lying.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7669317444834551292011-12-02T07:06:30.866-08:002011-12-02T07:06:30.866-08:00Yea, it worked for Hitler...
Reminder:
It was Ge...Yea, it worked for Hitler...<br /><br />Reminder:<br /><br />It was George Washington who wrote the praises of an "enlightened and liberal policy..." (letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792)<br /><br />It was Adolph Hitler who wrote that society should "fill our culture again with the Christian spirit" and that "liberal excesses" must be "burned out"<br /><br />--The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1, pg 871-872<br /><br />No Van, it didn't work for Hitler, but it did for G. Washington.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34704216479746292672011-12-02T06:44:00.600-08:002011-12-02T06:44:00.600-08:00Just for fun, my friend Patch posted this video of...Just for fun, my friend Patch posted this video of <a href="http://www.poedpatriot.com/2011/11/occupy-monterey-protester-attacks.html" rel="nofollow">OWS peacefulness</a>, a not so rare glimpse into how closely their words refract reality.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72720639075698020922011-12-02T06:33:42.863-08:002011-12-02T06:33:42.863-08:00I picked up some super Chin-Foo-Do techniques from...I picked up some super Chin-Foo-Do techniques from a certain master I know.<br /><br />;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44196032144650931322011-12-02T06:23:31.148-08:002011-12-02T06:23:31.148-08:00Hai! Van beat me to it...and with strong link foo,...Hai! Van beat me to it...and with strong link foo, too. <br /><br />Domo, Master Van-san. :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.com