tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post5327065861605443916..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: You Can Learn A Lot From a Political SociopathGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50045503700231405512014-11-16T21:24:05.579-08:002014-11-16T21:24:05.579-08:00... and for most, I think there is no way out for ...... and for most, I think there is no way out for them. That is horrifying sad. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-649866076235982512014-11-16T21:21:31.921-08:002014-11-16T21:21:31.921-08:00" Which brings us right back to Jonathan Grub..." Which brings us right back to Jonathan Gruber and ObamaCare: he acknowledges that the Obama administration lies to us because we are stupid. But it's really the other way around: they first contemptuously deprive us of our personhood ("bitter clingers," and all the rest), then exert power over us, being that the lie is in the service of the greater end of power. "Such speech," adds Pieper, is "in contradiction to the nature of language," since it "intends not to communicate but to manipulate.""<br /><br />And true as that is, it goes even deeper. For as I noted on fb:<br /><br />"Democrat & Independent voters: You do realize that he was talking about you, right? Those of us on the Right spent painful amounts of time and effort pointing out exactly the points me makes, and more, while you dismissed us.<br /><br />To borrow a phrase: 'You were the Stupids they'd been waiting for!'"<br /><br />Buttt... true as That is, it goes even deeper still. For as I've been discovering, those on the left, politico and peon, are not only not surprised by Gruber's remarks, they knew it all along, to one extent or another. Which means that they were thankful for the lies when first told, because they gave them the cover they needed in order to pretend a righteous need for ObamaCare... which they even then knew to be a falsehood which would get them what they wanted done. <br /><br />Which brings us back to this: "If one is not guided by truth, then to what is one oriented?"<br /><br />The Fall goes deeper and deeper down into darkness. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-80111786915150690082014-11-15T05:37:17.579-08:002014-11-15T05:37:17.579-08:00Joan, once again Exodus 23 comes to mind:
"3...Joan, once again Exodus 23 comes to mind:<br /><br />"32 You shall make no covenant with them or with their gods. 33 They shall not live in your land, because they will make you sin against Me; for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare to you."<br /><br />Notably, the Israelites ignored this warning again and again. Even Solomon, for all his wisdom, married a lot of foreign women and lived multiculturally; it all went downhill for quite a while, after that...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50611640892789179322014-11-14T19:53:52.376-08:002014-11-14T19:53:52.376-08:00Joan, yeah, it's sad that the ministries of th...Joan, yeah, it's sad that the ministries of the Episcopal Church and many other so called Christian denominations have lost their way - The Way.<br /><br />I read the article and then scanned it again but didn't see a mention of when CAIR has opened their mosques for Christian prayers. Sure the fine Islamic leaders reciprocated ... didn't they?EbonyRaptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02483546359869912858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28441205637032027922014-11-14T19:04:47.387-08:002014-11-14T19:04:47.387-08:00Julie said "...if we even had something so si...Julie said "...if we even had something so simple as a year where instead of introducing new laws we pruned back the old ones, it would do us a world of good."<br /><br />Actually <a href="http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch2s23.html" rel="nofollow">Jefferson proposed something</a> along those lines,<br /><br />"<i>...Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years...</i>"<br /><br />, but as was often the case with him, a little too much enthusiasm, a little too little soundness. I wouldn't mind seeing something like the later half though.<br /><br />Dare to dream.<br />Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61535190822545775822014-11-14T16:59:02.665-08:002014-11-14T16:59:02.665-08:00@Joan: As the old saying goes, "Episcopalians...@Joan: As the old saying goes, "Episcopalians are just Unitarians with a liturgy."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73910752521925943392014-11-14T16:59:02.004-08:002014-11-14T16:59:02.004-08:00@Joan: As the old saying goes, "Episcopalians...@Joan: As the old saying goes, "Episcopalians are just Unitarians with a liturgy."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-35814469411790208512014-11-14T16:27:24.975-08:002014-11-14T16:27:24.975-08:00Convergence, you say? The Episcopal Church is way ...Convergence, you say? <a href="http://juicyecumenism.com/2014/11/14/open-letter-anglican-friends-global-south/" rel="nofollow">The Episcopal Church is way ahead of you.</a>Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39345360745891008842014-11-14T14:25:47.291-08:002014-11-14T14:25:47.291-08:00Slowly reading through Exodus lately, I've jus...Slowly reading through Exodus lately, I've just recently reached the part where God expands on the laws summed up in the 10 commandments. Mainly they pertain to how people should interact with each other, and it occurred to me that any nation that could keep it that simple in essence would probably be pretty successful. <br /><br />Anyway, I had occasion to think about the significance of sevens, and the idea of the sabbath years combined with the significance of pruning vines to prevent overgrowth and encourage new growth, and it occurred to me that if we even had something so simple as a year where instead of introducing new laws we pruned back the old ones, it would do us a world of good.<br /><br />Of course, that would require that people be willing to give up power, so it would never be suggested anywhere important.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13045451095237984872014-11-14T13:45:16.470-08:002014-11-14T13:45:16.470-08:00Prove the reality of Life. Die trying. That woul...Prove the reality of Life. Die trying. That would be something. Like a kiss, or just not staying put.<br /><br />And the Head, and the Body, stumbles, and gets bit.<br /><br />Lots of details. Ornery, and wandering off. That might be something to pay attention to. Or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19584542367715798812014-11-14T11:27:18.926-08:002014-11-14T11:27:18.926-08:00Maybe we are stupid because we haven't put a w...Maybe we are stupid because we haven't put a wall around D.C., but it's nice to see Gruber and Obama being Breitbarted.<br /><br />In a sane society, we would know never to believe anything these fools say ever again.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73254463821001547892014-11-14T10:22:57.119-08:002014-11-14T10:22:57.119-08:00Funny synchronicity -- I'd been thinking of po...Funny synchronicity -- I'd been thinking of posting on that very idea -- that maybe you can't prove the existence of God, but you can certainly prove the existence of the diabolical, and thereby prove the existence of God. It's the left-hand path, I suppose (as it travels through the left). Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-92133140053306822092014-11-14T10:19:47.588-08:002014-11-14T10:19:47.588-08:00Hi Bob,
Although I don't comment often, I sti...Hi Bob,<br /><br />Although I don't comment often, I still tune in every day for a daily dose of your sanity. <br /><br />I've often wondered if you haven't read Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy, probably best know for <i>Out of Revolution</i> which was certainly floating around universities when you attended. <br /><br />To add to this conversation, here's a passage from his book <i>Speech and Reality</i>:<br /><br />"God cannot be proven and need not be proven. But the devil can be proven. I very well am able to see that the deniers of the one and only name eternal, make hell for all of us. The liar who reports a fact which he knows is not so, the hypocrite who pretends an emotion which he has not experienced, a commander who asks me to do what he is not willing to do himself, a scientist who plans us all except himself, they all abolish the commonwealth of speech in which I have my franchise of free speech and thought. They devaluate my treasure. These devils, then, make my pursuit of happiness impossible. For my happiness depends on the existence of a universe of speech and thought to which I can contribute and in which I may share. What good does it do me that I am free to swim if all the waters in which I might swim, dry up? This is what the four types of liars do: dry up the ocean in which I feel free to swim." (Pg. 186)<br /><br />Best regards,<br />Irene NYC (from another time, long ago and far away)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11370924974705615032014-11-14T10:17:56.669-08:002014-11-14T10:17:56.669-08:00"In a word, the education of old was a kind o..."<a href="http://happyacres.tumblr.com/post/102618975999/in-a-word-the-education-of-old-was-a-kind-of" rel="nofollow">In a word</a>, the education of old was a kind of propagation -- men transmitting manhood to men; the new is merely propaganda.”Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39738389654955716922014-11-14T10:13:41.922-08:002014-11-14T10:13:41.922-08:00Yes, Obama seems bent on provoking the apocalypse ...Yes, Obama seems bent on provoking the apocalypse now.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45377730950381269422014-11-14T10:08:34.796-08:002014-11-14T10:08:34.796-08:00Hence the need to progress - to not look back, to ...Hence the need to progress - to not look back, to not learn from history.<br /><br />Doesn't it seem we are nearing a convergence? Maybe the final historical convergence. Individualism, statism, Islamism are all vying for supremacy and can not ultimately co-exist. As we get closer to the point of convergence, things happen faster and subtle coercion turns to bludgeoning and that seems to be where this is headed.<br /><br />God save us.EbonyRaptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02483546359869912858noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53443904775937933772014-11-14T10:03:38.022-08:002014-11-14T10:03:38.022-08:00So, we "paid Dr. Gruber $400,000 for his expe...So, we "<a href="http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=353147" rel="nofollow">paid</a> Dr. Gruber $400,000 for his expertise in tutoring the government to serve more effective false propaganda to us."<br /><br />Truth sets you free, but lies really cost you.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56374449310509719532014-11-14T10:02:48.897-08:002014-11-14T10:02:48.897-08:00"But we can of course go back even further, s..."But we can of course go back even further, since Christianity revolves around this question of Word and embodied truth. Words ultimately matter because the Word is en-mattered."<br /><br />Ooh, that tasted good. OK, I'll stop pasting now and read on through. Sorry, a weeks withdrawals kicking in. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63208066399176106632014-11-14T09:57:42.515-08:002014-11-14T09:57:42.515-08:00More contempt and depersonalization.More <a href="http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2014/11/found-gruber-tape-5-was-this-letter.html" rel="nofollow">contempt</a> and depersonalization. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-22697604815270999622014-11-14T09:57:41.481-08:002014-11-14T09:57:41.481-08:00"It turns out that Milton was on the case fou..."It turns out that Milton was on the case four centuries ago, observing that when language "becomes irregular and depraved," it is followed by the "ruin and degradation" of the people, who become "listless, supine, and ripe for servitude.""<br /><br />As was Thucydides about 1,400 years before that. I can't get to links at the moment, but he describes the fall into language without meaning, giving pets rights, father's killing sons and vice versa, and other Kreskin like predictions of modern day California. Ugh.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73333524699354155572014-11-14T09:52:04.604-08:002014-11-14T09:52:04.604-08:00"About the liberal bullshit machine: Green wr..."About the liberal bullshit machine: Green writes that "when language becomes dislocated from truth, some power or set of powers other than truth is at work."<br /><br />O, that's pretty good. Progress is halted and Regress ensues. I finished catching up on the week last night, syncoonistic good stuff. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.com