tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post47167163166242039..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: The Cause and Cure of History (11.17.10)Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56026830490182577362007-12-28T20:50:00.000-08:002007-12-28T20:50:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19910583943355231132007-12-14T19:36:00.000-08:002007-12-14T19:36:00.000-08:00ALAN:I think Aslan called himself the Great Bridge...ALAN:<BR/><BR/>I think Aslan called himself the Great Bridgebuilder in one of the Narnia books. C.S. Lewis was an Anglican, true enough, but I can't help but feel that he meant something by that...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90494163187157465432007-12-13T22:42:00.000-08:002007-12-13T22:42:00.000-08:00re: man as the bridge...Pontifex Maximus = Greates...re: man as the bridge...<BR/><BR/>Pontifex Maximus = Greatest Bridge Builder (better known as the Pope).<BR/><BR/>I had forgotten the origin of the title from roman religion but it is interesting (see wikipedia)<BR/><BR/>(hi everyone - I've been lurking but in heavy startup mode. This little community is still a must visit in my daily regimen)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12821370244279068372007-12-13T20:16:00.000-08:002007-12-13T20:16:00.000-08:00Coonified,I meant I wasn’t sure if I even fully un...Coonified,<BR/>I meant I wasn’t sure if I even fully understood what I was driving at. Impossible to put these things into words.<BR/>And I don’t want you to shut up.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90654576987775907112007-12-13T19:06:00.000-08:002007-12-13T19:06:00.000-08:00"What are the chances of his being crucified after..."What are the chances of his being crucified after descending into "cosmic metaxy?"<BR/><BR/>100%"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, that was kind of my point, even though as I go back and read it now, it doesn't appear that way.<BR/><BR/>"But that’s ok I understand the coonfusion. Sort of."<BR/><BR/>Your right Ricky. I was confused. I'll stop trying to flex a mind muscle I don't have, and just shut up for a while.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44221903715730080192007-12-13T18:41:00.000-08:002007-12-13T18:41:00.000-08:00Nomo,I think we said the same thing just yousing d...Nomo,<BR/>I think we said the same thing just yousing different words.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5551496372216584442007-12-13T17:48:00.000-08:002007-12-13T17:48:00.000-08:00For me, it is all so very obviously about relation...For me, it is all so very obviously about relationship. I see the initial relationship of the Creator with His creation (Gen 3:8) pictured as God "walking in the garden in the cool of the day" - apparently a common occurence implying a real and personal relationship between the Creator and the people living there. Once severed by the decision of those people, the relationship was lost and alienation from the Creator became the one sure inheritance of everyone to follow.<BR/><BR/>Then, over time, the Creator continued taking actions to recover what was lost, by establishing a series of covenants with the people - each in its own way picturing or foreshadowing the coming final act of reconciliation (prophesied clearly throughout scripture). Then, at the chosen time, in the chosen place, the Creator returned in the person of His Son to again "walk in the garden" with the people who lived there. This time, however, when they chose to severe the relationship, they in fact fulfilled exactly what He came to do - establish a relationship that would endure and never end for those who believe.<BR/><BR/>However you want to slice this up, however literally you choose to take this story, it is the story scripture tells - in its entirety. As always, I encourage you all to spend time in careful, thoughtful, prayerful, reading of the Bible. There is so much there for each of us. Speaking of "The Cause and Cure of History".NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53901931014238511092007-12-13T16:45:00.000-08:002007-12-13T16:45:00.000-08:00Coonified,I didn’t say ‘predetermined incident’. Y...Coonified,<BR/>I didn’t say ‘predetermined incident’. You did. I’m not one of those types. But that’s ok I understand the coonfusion. Sort of. By “not an accident”, if I even know what I mean, I meant that the cross symbol was in a sense, say, selected from perhaps all of the infinite symbols available. And I don’t mean selected by the regular old ungardened variety people bumping into each other down here. I happen o think the symbol was selected because we could understand it. I think I might even prefer a possible explanation that suggests the incident was inevitable or eventual given the circumstances at the time, yet freewill was always available to adjust the timing if not even prevent the necessity of the incident itself. I am in no way insisting I’m right, just trying to describe one of the meanings it has come to mean to me from meditating on it. And even if I am right I’m almost certain there are many more if not infinite meanings within it.<BR/>Whichever the case may be, I think the primary purpose may be that we think about it seriously and apply it to our individual lives – which is what we are doing right now.<BR/>I hope we still cooncure.<BR/>RRRickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30680445091164435572007-12-13T15:57:00.000-08:002007-12-13T15:57:00.000-08:00Newly released:"The Attack of the Matterbots""What...Newly released:<BR/><BR/>"The Attack of the <A HREF="http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/12/science_debate" REL="nofollow">Matterbots</A>"<BR/><BR/>"What we need to do is raise the public discourse so that (not believing in evolution) is not an acceptable statement."Mizz Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02325435271880036807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51496161616614133192007-12-13T15:55:00.000-08:002007-12-13T15:55:00.000-08:00http://www.duelity.net/http://www.duelity.net/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14922334083103918322007-12-13T14:30:00.000-08:002007-12-13T14:30:00.000-08:00hear there is a new Scorsese movie coming soon, Me...hear there is a new Scorsese movie coming soon, Metaxy Driver, with Rosie ODonnell starring as the cab...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40911484234576688152007-12-13T14:27:00.000-08:002007-12-13T14:27:00.000-08:00What are the chances of his being crucified after ...What are the chances of his being crucified after descending into "cosmic metaxy?"<BR/><BR/>100%Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-42790585912541003372007-12-13T12:17:00.000-08:002007-12-13T12:17:00.000-08:00The vertical state of Man is rather like the globa...The vertical state of Man is rather like the global temperature. The materialists would have it flattened (or static), when the reality is both are dynamic. Much like the temperature, we are always getting either higher or lower on the scale, but if the flatManders have their way we'll plummet right down into an ice age (both literally and figuratively). If global warming were actually somehow reversed due to human activity, the climate wouldn't just stop changing, we'd all freeze in a new ice age. If spiritual growth were ever actually stamped out by scientism, humans would not suddenly dwell in mental utopia freed from the constraints of faith-based morality, we'd simply plummet to the cold depths of subhuman behavior. <BR/><BR/>Looking at a three-dimensional object (or abstraction, since in both cases that's really what we're dealing with) with one eye closed may make it appear to be lacking depth, but just because the difference can't be seen doesn't mean it isn't real and potentially hazardous.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50678239529801347542007-12-13T12:12:00.000-08:002007-12-13T12:12:00.000-08:00"His “cross”, his example, is the eternal sign pos..."His “cross”, his example, is the eternal sign post for this message…to me at least."<BR/><BR/>I concure Ricky. But, I can't say that it was all a predetermined incident. I mean, come on, the cross, a pre-christian symbol of heaven and earth, and Jesus, claiming to be the above it all. What are the chances of his being crucified after descending into "cosmic metaxy?"<BR/><BR/>Two books on that: <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Truth-Common-Vision-Religions/dp/0062507877/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197575896&sr=8-1" REL="nofollow"> Forgotten Truth </A> and the more detailed <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Symbolism-Cross-Rene-Guenon/dp/0900588659/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197575991&sr=1-1" REL="nofollow"> The symbolism of the Cross </A> for anyone whose interested.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"besides your obvious gifts, what is your friggin' secret? : )"<BR/><BR/>Kick ass indulgence deals from petey?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-64127824466605446272007-12-13T11:43:00.000-08:002007-12-13T11:43:00.000-08:00Oh, yeah, my mistake - there is no point, it's all...Oh, yeah, my mistake - there is no point, it's all KAOS. <BR/><BR/>SHeesh.<BR/><BR/>Dat's no way to wun a wailwoe'd.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3285613796766748722007-12-13T11:38:00.000-08:002007-12-13T11:38:00.000-08:00"KAOS and CONTROL"99!I started pulling quotes, but..."KAOS and CONTROL"<BR/><BR/><I>99!</I><BR/><BR/>I started pulling quotes, but it ended up being the whole damn thing - everyone should just go back and read it again, again.<BR/><BR/>Plus this:<BR/>"And understanding the point of history is admittedly quite difficult -- if not impossible -- if you don't know what a human being is""<BR/><BR/>My oldest's History prof sent home an essay of his own, on why they should study history, his answer:'to be better able to predict the future' and he used examples of being able to tell how prices of things like gas fluctuate, and having an understanding of history will make you better able to predict such things. Seriously. To college students.<BR/><BR/>No mention of seeking to better understand the nature of Man, of how people respond under the influence of different ideas and situations, how it seems that there are always some people how somehow manage to think and act differently than prevailing beliefs, etc.<BR/><BR/>If it's just to understand how things will behave, how is that different from insurance actuarials? Economics? At leas with those, you can earn some money! If history is just the study of things that have happened in the past, why look any further than the plate I broke on the kitchen floor last week? Physicists could use that to expound on KAOS theory to no end!<BR/><BR/>What is the point of any of it, divorced from seeking better understanding of Man in/and of the Cosmos?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55293334756189920472007-12-13T11:17:00.000-08:002007-12-13T11:17:00.000-08:00at in la said "...besides your obvious gifts, what...at in la said "...besides your obvious gifts, what is your friggin' secret? : ) and i would ask..."<BR/><BR/>Not in any way a comprehensive reason, but rumor has it that <B>Key</B> was a <B>Shift</B> to mastering the capital 'I'.<BR/><BR/>(Sorry, couldn't resist)<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>P.S. Where's your Blog?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5612849548965794432007-12-13T11:04:00.000-08:002007-12-13T11:04:00.000-08:00BobIt occurred to me that I have not said “Thank Y...Bob<BR/><BR/>It occurred to me that I have not said “Thank You” for all you do on your blog. Thanks, I don’t know how you do it but I read it everyday and am very grateful for the insights.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-82648243903736852052007-12-13T10:09:00.000-08:002007-12-13T10:09:00.000-08:00Historywater from abovemeeting at the middlemanwat...<A HREF="http://robinstarfish.blogspot.com/2007/12/history.html" REL="nofollow">History</A><BR/>water from above<BR/>meeting at the middleman<BR/>water from belowrobinstarfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15665546554663005609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-17536404153757977122007-12-13T10:05:00.000-08:002007-12-13T10:05:00.000-08:00i have to say, too, bob. this is all really brilli...i have to say, too, bob. this is all really brilliant stuff and no easy task to do it at all, let alone daily. you're doing people a great service here at One Cosmos. <BR/><BR/>besides your obvious gifts, what is your friggin' secret? : ) <BR/><BR/>and i would ask when you're going to convert to Christianity, but i have sense that you have already. <BR/><BR/>have a great day, all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-48208996841567709432007-12-13T09:38:00.000-08:002007-12-13T09:38:00.000-08:00another great post, bob.and interesting that you s...another great post, bob.<BR/><BR/>and interesting that you should talk about what man is today. i was just about to do the same on my blog after discussing laws. <BR/><BR/>Frank Sheed from his book, Theology and Sanity says this,<BR/><BR/>“Sanity involves seeing what is; in relation to our self, it means seeing what we are, where we are, and what life is really about. To become citizens of the real world, that we might be at home in it, familiar with it- knowing its realities and its laws, knowing how to conduct ourselves in it. …not merely as something known, but as something seen, as a kind of landscape in which the mind habitually lives. ” <BR/><BR/>Sheed calls it "The Landscape of Reality" or coming mentally to citizenship of the Real World.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-87111777343019971122007-12-13T09:13:00.000-08:002007-12-13T09:13:00.000-08:00“to mean the permanent place where man is in-betwe...“to mean the permanent place where man is in-between two poles of existence”<BR/><BR/>At some point it should become clear that Christ crucified on a cross was no accident. No accident that they just happened to find a couple of beams lieing around to nail him to. He, at the center of these two Worldpool forces headed toward each other, was no accident. These intersections, whether we like that they exist or not, we can choose to live “with” their fact or we can just live merely “in” it and get nowhere but lost in History. His “cross”, his example, is the eternal sign post for this message…to me at least.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.com