tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post462998540155671130..comments2024-03-29T06:03:45.545-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Will You Join Me in My Fight Against the Scourge of Normality? (1.04.12)Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20112632084973216542008-12-11T06:39:00.000-08:002008-12-11T06:39:00.000-08:00URGENT request for love and support for ALLSoldier...URGENT <A HREF="https://www.ifr-ors.com/ors_2_live/clients/soldiersangels/blanketofbelieffinalcall/index.cfm" REL="nofollow">request</A> for love and support for ALL<BR/>Soldiers!<BR/><BR/>Sadly, they do not have the funds for postage to ship out the remaining 40,000 care packages for our troops. That’s why they desperately need our help.QPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15827536245376441948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1335710454195040052008-12-11T06:03:00.000-08:002008-12-11T06:03:00.000-08:00What if the stress of being raised by parents who ...What if the stress of being raised by parents who didn't 'get' you led to a hypersensitivity to not being fully 'got'? A tendency to overdiagnose simple misunderstanding or disagreement (or even different 'styles') as pathological?<BR/><BR/>Just raising the possibility of a mote in the eye that corresponds to the beam in everyone else's.Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60309516779406684572008-12-11T03:24:00.000-08:002008-12-11T03:24:00.000-08:00Northern Bandit: Welcome from this Canadian expat ...Northern Bandit: Welcome from this Canadian expat (living in the other CA) also in the technology industry. Glad you've uncloaked and are participating.<BR/><BR/>Bob: After reading today's post, I was first wallowing in my own upbringing but quickly switched the how to I turn this little bit of extra light into something better for my kids. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Walt: great quote re control - it was part of the brilliance of the founding of the US that this was understood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-82798239382513968942008-12-10T22:47:00.000-08:002008-12-10T22:47:00.000-08:00Cassandra said "...Oh! Thank you, Van, for the war...Cassandra said "...Oh! Thank you, Van, for the warning! (Although,to be sure, I have already foreseen the danger!)"<BR/><BR/>You did? Really?... Nyahhh... I don't believe you.<BR/><BR/>(<I>Doh!</I>)<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>Oh my... sleep typing again... g'nite all!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9344531461207691052008-12-10T22:36:00.000-08:002008-12-10T22:36:00.000-08:00Thanks Van, Julie, ximeze, ropata, and ALL other c...Thanks Van, Julie, ximeze, ropata, and ALL other commenters. I think I understand more or less what all of you are saying. Your personal testimony helps. And I will reread the post.<BR/><BR/>Oh! Thank you, Van, for the warning! (Although,to be sure, I have already foreseen the danger!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78213153219272750822008-12-10T22:22:00.000-08:002008-12-10T22:22:00.000-08:00Heroes, all 100 of those guys. God bless them and ...Heroes, all 100 of those guys. <BR/>God bless them and their families.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10879799248147135732008-12-10T22:08:00.000-08:002008-12-10T22:08:00.000-08:00Listening to Amazing Grace tonight by massed Scott...Listening to Amazing Grace tonight by massed Scottish Canadian bagpipe. Canada surrendered her 100th son to the Taliban last week since 2001. Virtually none of them (literally) from the big cities (Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver) which account for the 60% of Canadians who vote "Democrat" reflexively.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12508994398065701062008-12-10T21:33:00.000-08:002008-12-10T21:33:00.000-08:00get Back, get Back.get Back to where you once belo...get Back, get Back.<BR/>get Back to where you once belonged<BR/><BR/>Canuck or no, anycoon who grooves to Johann da Man is ok by meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15898754365523274272008-12-10T21:26:00.000-08:002008-12-10T21:26:00.000-08:00"I have simply heard too much of this nonsens..."I have simply heard too much of this nonsense all my life to find it palatable, much less enlightening.<BR/>Yes, Mommy and Daddy (who pay your college tuition) are dullards! Teaching a kid how to spell, never mind teaching him the mechanics of drawing, is supressing his precious creativity. Normality is oppression! Be a non-conformist! Free your authentic self from the constraints of bourgeois morality!"<BR/><BR/>Cassandra, Bob's post was not at all about what you've written above. Try rereading it a few times looking for meanings quite different & deeper than saturated, loaded phrases that come to mind. Another pass after sleeping on it might unlock it for you, since lots of stuff plays musical chairs in your head while you sleep.<BR/><BR/>Bob's unsense is dancing-nonsense & unlike the nonsense you've heard all your life from the outside. Listen inside, that's where the unsense lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55969492253218985092008-12-10T21:08:00.000-08:002008-12-10T21:08:00.000-08:00As an INFP (intorverted touchy-feely idealist) I h...As an INFP (intorverted touchy-feely idealist) I have always had an inner quest for authenticity. But most "Normals" are relatively disonnected from the subjective world of emotion and spirituality, and think a search for meaning is a waste of time. Only later do they realize that their whole life was a waste of time if it was spent on things of no lasting significance.<BR/><BR/>But then again I'm just one of those Gen X losers, and my parents were hard-working Boomers with important things to do... no time for impractical conversations about silly notions like GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62418968581413776722008-12-10T21:05:00.000-08:002008-12-10T21:05:00.000-08:00Once a Fool...still stuck in normalraised in the w...Once a Fool...<BR/><BR/>still stuck in normal<BR/>raised in the wild by monkeys<BR/>no mirrors allowed<BR/><BR/>Jest kidding, Ray.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63350261298357339252008-12-10T20:53:00.000-08:002008-12-10T20:53:00.000-08:00NB said "Mozart's 21st and 23rd piano con...NB said "Mozart's 21st and 23rd piano concertos contain epiphanic passages for me that tweaked something connected vertically as far back as I can remember -- LONG before I knew God in any way at all. "<BR/><BR/>I agree. It's fun when the musical top 10 lists come out here... the raccoon hand washing manners get set aside, and the screeching howlers of the night fights break out. <BR/><BR/>(Keep your eye on Dupree)<BR/><BR/>Personally I do like some jazz, especially piano bar Trio's & Quartets (acoustic)... I used to be a Rocker' myself, and certainly don't mind it today (the good stuff anyway), but, with many exceptions, I think of Rock as being more musical enthusiasm or emotional aerobics, than as true <I><B>Music</B></I>. When I want to listen to <B>Music</B>, that's where Mozart, Beethoven, Back (ahem) & Co. come in. <BR/><BR/><I>That's</I> music, that can transport me.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39753194944593948412008-12-10T20:37:00.000-08:002008-12-10T20:37:00.000-08:00Julie,Was relfecting on your last post...The peopl...Julie,<BR/><BR/>Was relfecting on your last post...<BR/><BR/>The people you describe seem more like desperate souls trying to cram themselves into externally imposed roles.<BR/><BR/>The kind of "Normal" I get from Bob's description is something vastly more troubling. It is manifested here famously by the austistic -- yet highly intelligent -- persona known colloquially as the jester. It is an <I>absence</I> of a range of apperceptive functionality which leaves one with the gnawing sense that there is a gaping hole -- a <I>nothing</I> where the rest of us <I>at least</I> are constantly wrestling. I'd contrast the jester with someone like Chris Hitchens -- a first-rank intellect in some respects who when dealing with spiritual matters comes across as a rather nonplussed and defiant mouse in the shadow of a seductive cat.<BR/><BR/>The "normals" are the spiritual Stepford Wives. They are almost universally on the Left. The purest litmus test is abortion: the pure "Normal" will be a bit queasy about an 8th month "termination", but for <I>exactly the same reason he is queasy about stepping on large bugs, small rodents, lizards, etc</I>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90308356471396344692008-12-10T20:30:00.001-08:002008-12-10T20:30:00.001-08:00Cassandra,Yep, you're missing a bit of context... ...Cassandra,<BR/>Yep, you're missing a bit of context... stick around, there's more to it than has met your eye today. No one here mistakes flighty blurtings and pretentious eccentricities for creativity, or has patience for those who do - and those who do usually are flatly leftist - doubly damned in these bandits eyes.<BR/><BR/>Might want to look back through the Knowa's Arkive... you'll get the picture.<BR/>And you don't need to worry about any of us here ignoring your forewarnings of doom - we already know about it.<BR/>(psst... when Queen <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clytemnestra" REL="nofollow">Clytemnestra</A>, say's follow me... don't. Just sayin')Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14427668967655479992008-12-10T20:30:00.000-08:002008-12-10T20:30:00.000-08:00Northern Bandit said "Back = Bach Phone was ringin...Northern Bandit said "Back = Bach <BR/>Phone was ringing as I hit publish, before I had a chance to read (blush) "<BR/><BR/>Sheesh... imagine someone not spell chekang thair commeants. The nearve.<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/><BR/>(Welcome!)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34390995026494405652008-12-10T20:18:00.000-08:002008-12-10T20:18:00.000-08:00You know how Bob has this way of describing great ...You know how Bob has this way of describing great jazz so that you know that he has had these electifying, transformative encounters with (what was that!?!?)...<BR/><BR/>Mozart's 21st and 23rd piano concertos contain epiphanic passages for me that tweaked something connected vertically as far back as I can remember -- LONG before I knew God in any way at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27033101871871800502008-12-10T20:08:00.000-08:002008-12-10T20:08:00.000-08:00Cassandra,"I suspect I am missing something here,"...Cassandra,<BR/><BR/>"I suspect I am missing something here,"<BR/><BR/>Probably, yes. Speaking for myself, my parents weren't normotic; I was ridiculously fortunate in that, while they didn't necessarily <I>get</I> me, they nevertheless allowed me to be myself, more or less. This doesn't mean there was no structure, rather that they recognized that I had a personality of my own, which they did their best to allow to develop. Partly, this had to do with the fact that my mother went through some extensive therapy. <I>Her</I> mother managed to take the normotic lifestyle to an extreme. Appearances were <I>all</I> that mattered. The negative repercussions of that excessive, obsessive drive to be the most normal family in the neighborhood are being felt through several generations now, and they have been truly awful.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61657894083066948352008-12-10T19:58:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:58:00.000-08:00Hi, NB "can I get that on a T-shirt, preferably wi...Hi, NB <BR/><BR/>"can I get that on a T-shirt, preferably with a bowling raccoon for illustration?"<BR/><BR/>if you're serious, that could certainly be arranged...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-91788877440543511072008-12-10T19:53:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:53:00.000-08:00Waylon Jennings got it right:I've always been craz...Waylon Jennings got it right:<BR/>I've always been crazy but it's kept me from goin' insane...<BR/><BR/>That's a great idea, Northern Bandit!<BR/>T-shirts (or see shirts), mugs, steins, Raccoon hats, a Gagdad swimsuit calendar, ...merchandising! Bob can start a Gagdad Bob Mart.<BR/>I would buy stuff...except for the swimsuit calendar (not that there's anything wrong with that).USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51677632245847563892008-12-10T19:41:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:41:00.000-08:00Thanks Ben, you old Salt!Well, I'll go back to lis...Thanks Ben, you old Salt!<BR/><BR/>Well, I'll go back to listening for a bit. One thing I can say about today's essay from Bob -- I'm not normal.<BR/><BR/>Now, can I get that on a T-shirt, preferably with a bowling raccoon for illustration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-43895959832017274712008-12-10T19:39:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:39:00.000-08:00Good news! Gary Sinise received the Presidential C...Good news! Gary Sinise received the Presidential Citizen Medal!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6121#comment-76025" REL="nofollow">Gary Sinise</A><BR/><BR/>A well deserved honor. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Mr. Sinise is a true Patriot.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-941044992809002992008-12-10T19:34:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:34:00.000-08:00Thesis? Bwahahaha! Ahem. Yeah, I would say you mis...Thesis? <BR/>Bwahahaha! Ahem. Yeah, I would say you missed it alright.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89714772975916098512008-12-10T19:30:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:30:00.000-08:00Welcome aboard, Northern Bandit!Another brightside...Welcome aboard, Northern Bandit!<BR/>Another brightside is you don't hafta worry about gettin' banned here, even if you are a Canuck. :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54698098061206969232008-12-10T19:25:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:25:00.000-08:00I am oddly ambivalent about this post. Perhaps, as...I am oddly ambivalent about this post. Perhaps, as a member of the baby boomer generation, I have simply heard too much of this nonsense all my life to find it palatable, much less enlightening.<BR/>Yes, Mommy and Daddy (who pay your college tuition) are dullards! Teaching a kid how to spell, never mind teaching him the mechanics of drawing, is supressing his precious creativity. Normality is oppression! Be a non-conformist! Free your authentic self from the constraints of bourgeois morality!<BR/><BR/>I saw The Queen. I was on her side. I liked her and her sense of honor, decorum, and tradition. I even preferred her cold reserve to the media-driven emotion of the mooniacal Diana-worshippers.<BR/><BR/>I said I was "ambivalent." Normality can, indeed, be a scourge. Be to what extent, in what way, and under what circumstances? <BR/><BR/>I suspect I am missing something here, but I think it would be helpful to distinguish clearly between your own thesis and the standard antinomian claptrap of the Left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9445902692264437502008-12-10T19:20:00.000-08:002008-12-10T19:20:00.000-08:00Back = BachPhone was ringing as I hit publish, bef...Back = Bach<BR/><BR/>Phone was ringing as I hit publish, before I had a chance to read (blush)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com