tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post4567143694743247310..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Trial by Ordeal and Ordeal by TrialGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73422514032758079062018-09-25T20:08:58.590-07:002018-09-25T20:08:58.590-07:00That quote got my attention . Wilber is a smart gu...That quote got my attention . Wilber is a smart guy - I have absolutely know idea how anyone remotely intelligent and/or honest could say such a thing . I must confess , I’d love it if you would review the book - your reactions will assuredly be awesome .Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04865413665629644313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39158448943302472132018-09-25T14:56:37.941-07:002018-09-25T14:56:37.941-07:00aninnymouse said "The prime individual right ...aninnymouse said "The prime individual right is (at least for that individual) some form of control over Rule of Law."<br /><br />Thank you for that demonstration of being not even wrong.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55271552215076210252018-09-25T10:02:36.900-07:002018-09-25T10:02:36.900-07:00No offense, Anon, but your comment was clear as mu...No offense, Anon, but your comment was clear as mud.<br /><br />Just trying to understand where you're coming from: Do you mean that the senses can know truth and that God is knowable, or do you mean just what you said?<br /><br />And do you assert that someone who believes God is knowable is evil, or do you mean the opposite?<br /><br />Not being snarky, just genuinely confused. Clearly there is sarcasm in there, but the wording is such that I am too stupid to follow which direction it is intended.<br /><br />juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26972905139183965642018-09-25T09:21:54.315-07:002018-09-25T09:21:54.315-07:00The prime individual right is (at least for that i...The prime individual right is (at least for that individual) some form of control over Rule of Law. But try telling that one to somebody who believes they know everything while actually controlling nothing.<br /><br />Good God, if only you could see yourselves. The five proven senses cannot ever know truth. Only the one mythical sense can prove an unknown god who never shows up in any way which the five senses can detect. And if you don’t believe this then you’re pure concentrated evil. <br /><br />And one still wonders why religion is in such a steep decline in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70368812821684983842018-09-24T09:18:36.824-07:002018-09-24T09:18:36.824-07:00Gagdad said "...The phrase implies that not o...Gagdad said "...The phrase implies that not only is someone not making a valid point in a discussion, but they don't even understand the nature of the discussion itself, or the things that need to be understood in order to participate..."<br /><br />It took me long enough to notice that, but once I did, that was when I began asking trolls and anninnies "What do you think an Individual Right is?". Their replies made it clear that attempting to discuss anything to do with Liberty or Justice or the Rule of Law, was a discussion that they were not even up to considering, let alone arguing about.<br /><br />The sad fact is that many trolls, are trolls, because they aren't up to being anything more than a troll.<br /><br />SadVan Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3416132830666094532018-09-23T19:39:40.893-07:002018-09-23T19:39:40.893-07:00Anyway, it doesn't matter who he nominates. Th...Anyway, it doesn't matter who he nominates. The left playbook follows the idea of "show me the man, and I'll show you the crime."<br /><br />As Christians (or at least people of faith), we know that everyone is a sinner. By grace, though, we know that through Christ we are forgiven, and once forgiven our wrongs are lifted from our shoulders for eternity.<br /><br />To the left, it is believed that everyone is a criminal; conveniently, in fact, we have reached the point that most people unknowingly commit felonies on a regular basis. So long as we keep our heads down and don't, say, accept a nomination for a position of any power or consequence, it's unlikely that anyone will notice most of the more obscure offenses. However, the moment anyone attracts the notice of the left, it becomes simply a matter of time before they find something, <i>anything</i>, which they can use to try to ruin your life if not outright destroy you. There is no grace, nor mercy, for anyone who isn't in thrall to their side.<br /><br />Amy Barrett? I don't know a thing about her, but I'll bet someone is already lined up to claim she tweeted something mean or used the n-word once in 1972, or maybe they'll just imply she had an abortion and a sordid past. Maybe she got drunk once in high school and there's a yearbook photo of her passed out somewhere, and if there is you can bet that every pixel will splashed across the cover of the Washington Post and the New York Times. And even if it's false, they'll publish the salacious details and then issue a retraction a couple of hours later after the damage has been done.<br /><br />The better the person, the worse the treatment will be. This circus has nothing to do with a fair and reasonable evaluation of a candidate for an important position, and everything to do with getting their way by any means necessary.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-87437695926083369182018-09-23T18:56:03.241-07:002018-09-23T18:56:03.241-07:00She's being held in reserve for when RBG is of...She's being held in reserve for when RBG is officially pronounced dead. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-82628235048506141802018-09-23T18:49:42.064-07:002018-09-23T18:49:42.064-07:00Trump should have gone with Amy Barrett.Trump should have gone with Amy Barrett.Daniel Tnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84596781813584699902018-09-23T13:22:48.780-07:002018-09-23T13:22:48.780-07:00Now then, let us consider Yoga. Is a Christian als...Now then, let us consider Yoga. Is a Christian also a yogin? Yes they are. "Yoga" means "to yoke" and a "yogin" is a person who is yoked, as an ox is yoked to a cart. It is a metaphor for a human yoked to God. <br /><br />The Lord's Prayer, recited by a Christian, is yoga. Therefore, yoga doctrine is applicable to Christians, as Christian doctrine is applicable to Yogins of any stripe, such as Vedantists and Hindus. The life story of Jesus dovetails seamlessly with the yoga doctrine of rebirth. Christianity and Yoga are materially one and the same. <br /><br />That being said, a discussion of the benighted wrong-doer (the Leftist), would not be complete without scrutinizing the Leftist through the lens of yoga as well. <br /><br />Unity, Sincerity, Equality, and Surrender....the four pillars of Yoga, would tend to see the Leftist as eminently curable. Albeit there may be a point where a person is too far gone to repent and fly right, however this point is reached by only a very few of the most willfullyt wicked. The others, are salvageable. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44384017406741676202018-09-22T16:23:47.877-07:002018-09-22T16:23:47.877-07:00Well, we here at the NWO take credit for creating ...Well, we here at the NWO take credit for creating PC ideology, indeed it is a carefully crafted weaponized ideology, the most brilliant every devised. It propagates itself!<br /><br />A 36 year-old grope recollection can be something significant. Pah, we who created the ideology know that is poppycock. What if some spiteful maven, at a family function, blurts out a charge of that ilk against the patriarch of the house? Laughter all around. <br /><br />But the minions, in their millions, carry out a serious program. They have swallowed the Kool-aid. The fools. Useful fools. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70759489270839329632018-09-22T15:09:59.198-07:002018-09-22T15:09:59.198-07:00*to get through a day, that is...*to get <i>through</i> a day, that is...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53249247948986114682018-09-22T15:06:20.471-07:002018-09-22T15:06:20.471-07:00It's sad when someone doesn't even reach u...It's sad when someone doesn't even reach up to the Donny level of discussion. They aren't just out of their element, they're out of their minds. One wonders how such a person manages to get a day, so disjointed and irrational is their thought.<br /><br />We have a neighbor who suffers from (and occasionally enjoys) some pretty major hallucinations/ delusions. Apparently not quite bad enough to be institutionalized, unfortunately, but bad enough to pose serious problems for herself and the people around her. Even so, I suspect she's more in touch with reality than the Moores of the world. Certainly far less dangerous, as nobody agrees with her that airplanes have been landing in her back yard...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75933460966139985232018-09-22T14:38:41.082-07:002018-09-22T14:38:41.082-07:00One other reason it can be so hard to debate a lef...One other reason it can be so hard to debate a leftist is they literally aren't <i>even</i> wrong. I was looking into the origins of that concept last night, and <a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong" rel="nofollow">it says here</a>,<br /><br />The phrase implies that not only is someone not making a valid point in a discussion, but they don't even understand the nature of the <i>discussion itself</i>, or the things that need to be understood in order to participate.<br /><br />This is far more than just an argument leading to a wrong conclusion. The premises aren't even related to the conclusion or are themselves completely nonsensical.<br /><br />The premises, their arrangements, the conclusion, all are so divorced from facts and logic that even attempting to rationally engage with it gives it too much credit.<br /><br />Either through willful ignorance, or at best by being out of date with current research, they don't know enough about the subject to know what is needed to form a sensible argument. This can be caused by the Dunning-Kruger effect, where someone makes a not even wrong argument but lacks the meta-cognitive ability to recognize that they don't know enough even to make a wrong argument, never mind a right one. <br /><br />******<br /><br />That's Moore. One wouldn't even know where to begin. He's arguing so far downstream from his ignorance, misinformation, bigotry, and incorrect premisses, that one feels overwhelmed. <br /><br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3080810767810251092018-09-22T13:30:30.309-07:002018-09-22T13:30:30.309-07:00I often wonder how one can have a conversation wit...I often wonder how one can have a conversation with someone like that. I think Davila has it about right:<br /><br />"Engaging in dialogue with those who do not share our assumptions is nothing more than a stupid way to kill time."<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30366875098594972872018-09-22T11:38:35.528-07:002018-09-22T11:38:35.528-07:00Watch the first two minutes of this... what buffoo...Watch the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JWxrMw4LfQ" rel="nofollow">first two minutes of this</a>... what buffoon Moore is!tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354048695798015131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23761401354807045392018-09-21T22:26:17.541-07:002018-09-21T22:26:17.541-07:00I read somewhere that he refuses to allow any edit...I read somewhere that he refuses to allow any editor to touch his work, which no doubt contributes to the excruciatingly bad prose. I first noticed the downward trend after Sex, Ecology and Spirituality in 1995. His journals (1999) were cringeworthy, and the novel (2002) was just an embarrassment. He must have no self-awareness. Maybe that's it: no self and therefore no awareness that it's still there. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25454448834686371602018-09-21T19:55:03.165-07:002018-09-21T19:55:03.165-07:00Wilber has become a caricature of himself, sadly. ...Wilber has become a caricature of himself, sadly. I loved his work once, and now I don't. It's like an ex-gf, and we're and non-reading terms now.tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354048695798015131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6585028878309288482018-09-21T19:36:09.127-07:002018-09-21T19:36:09.127-07:00Speaking of bad literature, I just received a copy...Speaking of bad literature, I just received a copy of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1627793429?ie=UTF8&tag=onecos-20&camp=1789&linkCode=xm2&creativeASIN=1627793429" rel="nofollow">The Infernal Library: On Dictators, the Books They Wrote, and Other Catastrophes of Literacy</a>. Sounds like a hoot. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13178976814003645132018-09-21T18:38:10.129-07:002018-09-21T18:38:10.129-07:00And I did notice some deterioration for a couple m...And I did notice some deterioration for a couple months, but over the past week I've begun to feel back on top of things. Hopefully just one of those slumps rather than the beginning of a slow decline.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9275717766802953272018-09-21T18:34:03.743-07:002018-09-21T18:34:03.743-07:00Dear readers: please notify me if I start to deter...Dear readers: please notify me if I start to deteriorate like that. I like to think I'll recognize it, but you never know. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84333325384707566472018-09-21T18:31:50.801-07:002018-09-21T18:31:50.801-07:00I can't help suspecting Wilber has suffered so... I can't help suspecting Wilber has suffered some kind of organic brain damage.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52685415405250361632018-09-21T18:21:28.016-07:002018-09-21T18:21:28.016-07:00'[P]olls consistently showed that people felt ...'[P]olls consistently showed that people felt Trump was “more truthful” than Hillary Clinton (who, no matter how much of an atmosphere of “corruption” followed her, as many believed, she never set out explicitly and blatantly to lie, or certainly nowhere nearly as much as Trump).'<br /><br />Er, what?<br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9316452304989243342018-09-21T18:19:39.186-07:002018-09-21T18:19:39.186-07:00I love the pearl-clutching shrieking about "P...I love the pearl-clutching shrieking about "Populism!!11!11" They must have figured out that crying "fascism" isn't working, since people are noticing that the only ones acting like fascists are leftists.<br /><br />Frankly, populism sounds pretty darn appealing, considering that it implies things like "your vote matters," and "people should have a say in what their government actually does." juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62987414916011908642018-09-21T18:15:39.898-07:002018-09-21T18:15:39.898-07:00Can't be reviewed. I read the sample, and it&#...Can't be reviewed. I read the sample, and it's just poorly written pretentious gibberish. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86931470112136326172018-09-21T18:09:54.091-07:002018-09-21T18:09:54.091-07:00Another sickening catastrophe of literature, only ...Another sickening catastrophe of literature, only from the other direction: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Trump-Post-Truth-World-Ken-Wilber/dp/1611805619/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8" rel="nofollow">Trump and a Post-Truth World</a>, by Ken Wilber.<br /><br />To think that I once looked up to this ignorant jackass! <br /><br />I'm tempted to get the book and do an extensive review. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.com