tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post355464457538391117..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Bleeding Brain Conservatism and the Human MarginGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger104125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13315112139252260502011-05-09T10:33:43.726-07:002011-05-09T10:33:43.726-07:00“I doubt he’s even very interesting,” Ambrose obse...“I doubt he’s even very interesting,” Ambrose observed. “I mean, to the extent that the devil has any personality to speak of at all—even if the story is true and he was once an archangel or something of that sort—he must by now be a pretty sordid, unimaginative, and dreary little fellow. He would have to be so monstrously self-absorbed: not a brilliant conversationalist, not a philosopher and wit, not a bon-vivant or perverted aesthete, but just some tedious little troll, full of spite and resentment. He’s probably a monomaniac who talks about nothing but his personal grievances and aims, and in the bluntest, most unrefined language imaginable—the sort of person you try your best to get away from at a party.”<br /><br />Apparently, this guy has been cornered by William...Aproposhttp://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/05/a-person-you-flee-at-partiesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37618085464956300652011-05-09T08:37:52.067-07:002011-05-09T08:37:52.067-07:00Okay, you both almost owed me a new keyboard just ...Okay, you <i>both</i> almost owed me a new keyboard just then. And now the baby is looking at me funny...<br /><br />:Djuliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45740931356685040252011-05-09T08:33:07.415-07:002011-05-09T08:33:07.415-07:00Gagdad said "Conservatives are all homoerotic...Gagdad said "Conservatives are all homoerotic polluters. Not that there's anything wrong with it."<br /><br />(blink)<br /><br /><br /><br />(That's sooo hot)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63386792309413177762011-05-09T08:31:55.401-07:002011-05-09T08:31:55.401-07:00Conservatives are all homoerotic polluters. Not t...Conservatives are all homoerotic polluters. Not that there's anything wrong with it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62090708603356280912011-05-09T08:29:27.372-07:002011-05-09T08:29:27.372-07:00(I hit a hundred!)(I hit a hundred!)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10196742691747247122011-05-09T08:28:55.666-07:002011-05-09T08:28:55.666-07:00Why all the continued homoerotic references Julie?...Why all the continued homoerotic references Julie? Why are we all such haters?! Obviously there are a set of environmental stimuli out there which cause our reactionary positions... including some that continue to make me think that I'm thinking these thoughts on my own (... and there must be some that make me think my faux thinking is real thinking... and Ah! I'm doing it again!... )can't these environmental hazards just be removed? Hasn't there been a study?!<br />It's unfair that our leftie superiors, who are obviously just a creation of haphazard chance, reap the benefits of their unfair accidental mental benefits! Why can't they share their mental performance enhancing environmental mental stimuli?!<br />They're just Haters?!<br />And greedy!<br />And you can't possibly get past the fact that David's marble is hard... Oh!!!!! The references! Holy Pin Ball Ba'atman!<br />Flip the stimuli flipper!!!!!!!!!!<br />SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56262040824352010322011-05-09T08:20:29.444-07:002011-05-09T08:20:29.444-07:00Bummer. I failed to dazzle his appreciation for br...Bummer. I failed to dazzle his appreciation for brilliance with my lowbrow snarkasm. <br /><br />Seems like he has a real hardon for you, though Bob. Why do I get the impression that if this were all going down in person, he'd be that guy who just has to prove something by picking a fight with the biggest guy in the room? Or in his case, demanding a race? Maybe he should dial down the roids...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4486261453590483432011-05-09T06:39:41.092-07:002011-05-09T06:39:41.092-07:00William:
You are so full of shit. I'll bet ...William:<br /><br /><br />You are so full of shit. I'll bet you folding money that more conservatives agree with you and me than with Al Gore. And if you think Al is open to truth, you're even more full of shit.Cousin Dupreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38840262838889197132011-05-08T22:57:29.696-07:002011-05-08T22:57:29.696-07:00OT, Vanderleun links to a good article at the WSJ ...OT, Vanderleun links to <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703992704576307021339210488.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories" rel="nofollow">a good article at the WSJ about Navy SEALS</a>. I like this part:<br /><br />"Almost all the men who survived [Hell Week] possessed one common quality. Even in great pain, faced with the test of their lives, they had the ability to step outside of their own pain, put aside their own fear and ask: How can I help the guy next to me? They had more than the "fist" of courage and physical strength. They also had a heart large enough to think about others, to dedicate themselves to a higher purpose."juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62743325798118321482011-05-08T22:53:24.121-07:002011-05-08T22:53:24.121-07:00Bob,
Your assertion "9,100 of the past 10,50...Bob, <br />Your assertion "9,100 of the past 10,500 years were warmer than 2010." is based on pure bullshit and the dishonesty of one wingnut denialist who has been <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2010/06/don_easterbrook_caught_in_a_li.php" rel="nofollow">thoroghly debunked</a>, but you'll cite him anyway.<br /> <br />The funny thing is though that we're in agreement. You acknowledged AGW, and you, like me, doubt human remedies to mitigate it. <br /><br />This is all very confusing for Julie... " (because apparently he was for it before he was against it, and that was all just around 3:20)." <br /><br />She illustrates my point exactly. Wingnuts can not separate the science from what they've been conditioned to believe politically. It is confusing to them when they see someone like me who acknowledges the scienctific fact of AGW yet believes there is no significant and timely man made solution. Do you see what I mean here? <br /><br />You Bob apparently acknowledge AGW but downplay it's affect, as well you should, because you will likely die within 30 yrs and will not likely be affected to any great extent. But mitigation factors aside, the reality exists. AGW is real. And yes, cap and trade could very well be BS, particularly if in fact a tipping point has been reached as I think is the case. <br /><br />Glad we agree on this. <br /><br />PS... stay away HotAir and those BS sites, it's not good for your credibility to cite their dishonesty. They, like nearly all conservatives, have an agenda driven by polluters who who see climate science as a threat. Again, they can not separate science from politics. That is their persistent conditioned response mechanism. They can't help it.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05861596158055480390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41168675523176129062011-05-08T19:55:05.923-07:002011-05-08T19:55:05.923-07:00wilian said "Because I do not walk in lock st...wilian said "Because I do not walk in lock step as conservatives do"<br /><br />Uh-huh.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that, based on the new science of phrenology, botched and inferior peoples are imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that, based on the new science of population studies, the birth rate is too high, populations are growing too quickly and soon all the world will be plunged into famine imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that, based on the new science of climatology, the climate is cooling, a new ice age is coming imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that based on the new science of environmental studies, industries are killing the waters and producing acid rain imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that based on the new science of atmospheric studies, the ozone hole is being caused by aerosols imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Proregressive science finds that based on the newly improved science of climatology, the climate is warming, the oceans are rising imperiling civilization, because it's such a dire threat, there's no time to wait for more information, action must be taken immediately, therefore govt must be given sweeping powers to limit and control it's peoples, so as to save civilization.<br /><br />Lockstep. Conservatives. Right.<br /><br />Conservatives say 2+2=4. Leftists complain Conservatives walk in lockstep.<br /><br />Right.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78895614794964490292011-05-08T18:36:19.453-07:002011-05-08T18:36:19.453-07:00Not only that, but so often the proposed solutions...Not only that, but so often the proposed solutions do not involve utilizing effective technological advances such as nuclear power, but rather they want us to "simplify" - i.e. live more like prehistoric people. The problem is, fossil fuels and the way we use them now are a <i>vast</i> improvement over anything men have used in the past for heat, work and transportation. Modernized human population centers are, in general, orders of magnitude cleaner than they were a hundred years ago. And the more we allow for technological innovation, generally speaking, the <i>better</i> the environment gets even as it supports greater numbers of people than ever before. But it's never good enough for some people. They want everyone else to live like noble savages.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70128172464809702062011-05-08T18:11:05.959-07:002011-05-08T18:11:05.959-07:00And make no mistake: environmental hysteria kills...And make no mistake: environmental hysteria <a href="http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2010/02/16/the-green-death/" rel="nofollow">kills</a>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30100787214094867302011-05-08T18:09:23.912-07:002011-05-08T18:09:23.912-07:00Put the line far enough back and approximately 9,1...Put the line far enough back and <a href="http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2010/12/ice-core-samples-9099-out-of-past-10500.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FNWlS+%28YID+With+LID%29" rel="nofollow">approximately 9,100 of the past 10,500 years were warmer than 2010</a>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9518315301643847502011-05-08T18:04:27.003-07:002011-05-08T18:04:27.003-07:00I agree that the planet is getting a little bit wa...I agree that the planet is getting a little bit warmer -- depending, of course, on where one draws the before-after line -- and that human activity may well contribute to it. Where I depart from the weather worshipers is over whether the warming is a net negative, whether the policies advocated would make a difference, whether they would be so costly as to cause a worldwide depression, whether the "solutions" would kill more people than the problem, whether the market will naturally solve the problem as energy prices increase, and whether preventing third world countries from exploiting fossil fuels is a cruel way to keep them mired in backward economies.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-47763035102158789072011-05-08T17:56:52.917-07:002011-05-08T17:56:52.917-07:00There are so many reasons to be skeptical of the w...There are so many reasons to be skeptical of the warmists, not the least of which being the poor judgment revealed by their politics, priorities, and values. <br /><br />Even more basically, it would be foolish to put one's faith in the self-appointed intellectual vanguard of an immature science that is perpetually trolling for more funds by propagating and endorsing demonstrably misleading information and hysterical speculation, such as Al Gore's crockumentary. <br /><br />No one needs to prove the existence of gravity by distorting the evidence against it, or by telling us that WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE if we don't heed its lessons.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50794571697808938882011-05-08T17:36:31.679-07:002011-05-08T17:36:31.679-07:00I really do wonder what William's malfunction ...I really do wonder what William's malfunction is.<br /><br />He jumps into a conversation with a complete non-sequiter meant to insult the people conversing, then follows up with a bunch of links meant to demonstrate further how dumb we are.<br /><br />But really the insults are just kind of funny, because even though he apparently reads here with regularity, he thinks that we're anti-science creationists or ouija-board wielding mystics or who knows what else. He can't stay on topic, can't counter a reasonable argument, and can't make up his mind about whether we should worry about AGW (because apparently he was for it before he was against it, and that was all just around 3:20).<br /><br />What's the point? Why does he care so much what we think?juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34521026655447935482011-05-08T16:36:59.748-07:002011-05-08T16:36:59.748-07:00A Retrofuturistic Neo-Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Max...A Retrofuturistic Neo-Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum! Add one more to the <a href="http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm" rel="nofollow">list of things caused by global warming</a>.Cousin Dupreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51873176948604844032011-05-08T16:20:44.526-07:002011-05-08T16:20:44.526-07:00And for that matter, if you know that it could onl...And for that matter, if you know that it could only be because you do the same.<br /><br />Oh, you poor thing...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-64589479481506416132011-05-08T16:18:07.103-07:002011-05-08T16:18:07.103-07:00Says Julie who eats daily from the pseudo intellec...<i>Says Julie who eats daily from the pseudo intellectual trough of Gagdad. </i><br /><br />Granted, but at least he's usually entertaining.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56971988982759888592011-05-08T15:55:35.527-07:002011-05-08T15:55:35.527-07:00When William proselytizes, it seems like the only ...<i>When William proselytizes, it seems like the only thing he wants us to worship is his superior intelligence.</i><br /><br />Says Julie who eats daily from the pseudo intellectual trough of Gagdad. <br /><br />Like I said... I guess just too much information. Sorry for wasting your time.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05861596158055480390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60395434090748274972011-05-08T15:43:42.335-07:002011-05-08T15:43:42.335-07:00Ya know, at least when the fundies come a knockin&...Ya know, at least when the fundies come a knockin' at the door they have a genuine concern for saving my soul literally from a fate worse than death. <br /><br />When William proselytizes, it seems like the only thing he wants us to worship is his superior intelligence. And all we'd get in return is a patronizing pat on the head and a fate worse than death. <br /><br />Funny, that just doesn't strike me as much of a bargain...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20457987409067868032011-05-08T15:33:52.991-07:002011-05-08T15:33:52.991-07:00blah blah blah... something about being smarter an...blah blah blah... something about being smarter and more mentally flexible than everybody else... blah blah blah... <i>maybe someone out there might find it in themselves to look deeper before spewing insults and denials.</i>William saidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39120236604408746992011-05-08T15:20:59.466-07:002011-05-08T15:20:59.466-07:00Julie,
I agree. I love a warm climate and live f...Julie, <br />I agree. I love a warm climate and live far enough above sea level where I can't be affected. Conservatives nearly universally walk in lock step on this AGW issue. <br /><br />The basic thing to acknowledge is yes, the climate ALWAYS changes because of natural forces. But industrialized humanity has built it's stake on this planet in a blink of an eye ont the geologic timescale and in a relatively stable climate period. Even a slight change of a few degrees could have a significant affect on humanity and world species. <br /><br />Yes, there have been ice ages and climate changes in human history, but <b>nothing</b> like the warming event that occurred 55 million years ago that resulted in the melting of the arctic and mass impacts on species evolution. This event, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM), was the result of a 5 to 8°C sea surface temperature rise over a <i> few thousand years</i>, likely caused by massive volcanic activity. The present trend would clearly indicate an event like the PETM is a likely possibility, and despite what ignorant pundits say, a one degree global temperature rise <i>over 100 years</i> IS a big deal. We are already seeing global climate change impacts far more quickly than the models have predicted. I cited the Navy because what other entity is in a position to observe climate change over a few hundred years in places where it happens first, the arctic.<br /><br />Because I do not walk in lock step as conservatives do, I recognize man's conrtibution to climate change but I don't personally think we can do anything substanitive about it, especially in our lifetime. I don't subscribe to cap and trade and the like. <br /><br />In our very stable climate, just one serious volcanic event like a super volcano could make man's contribution to global climate change seem miniscule. However, you see an automatic persistent reaction based more on political conditioning and denial rather than intellect from the right. <br /><br />Of course, this is falling on deaf ears but maybe someone out there might find it in themselves to look deeper before spewing insults and denials.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05861596158055480390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69657940179661894272011-05-08T15:15:18.854-07:002011-05-08T15:15:18.854-07:00Anonymous, I roger that. There is juvenile mockery...Anonymous, I roger that. There is juvenile mockery here. A very prominent feature.<br /><br />I kind of like it, but its not for everyone probably.<br /><br />The mature caucasians that accumulate here to congratulate the head psycho are a wierd bunch but they grow on you.She sits nude at the monitornoreply@blogger.com