tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2993481281205174167..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Understanding UnderstandingGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57564864925264174052018-01-22T18:06:18.277-08:002018-01-22T18:06:18.277-08:00"In short, "Though we are led to think t..."In short, "Though we are led to think that the universe is the province of a special science," the cosmos "is an irreducibly metaphysical and theological idea" which we only subsequently investigate via scientific methodology."<br /><br />Sure science began in the West (but only of course because compasses are racist), but why did the movement towards Science, peter out with the Greeks? Why did such notions go no further than ideas of engineering, with the Romans? Why did Science proper only finally begin in the West, with Christian monks such as Roger Bacon? <br /><br />You'd think, what with scientists being so curious & all, they'd spend more time asking questions like that. I mean in our time... in Roger Bacon's time, being a Christian, the answer was fairly obvious. Weird how some questions stop being asked. Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1064556763504738422018-01-22T15:34:09.102-08:002018-01-22T15:34:09.102-08:00Then nothing. The most important things are for th...Then nothing. The most important things are for their own sake. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45653313668374638092018-01-22T14:33:47.487-08:002018-01-22T14:33:47.487-08:00Once you've understood understanding, then wha...Once you've understood understanding, then what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-42698888321756648332018-01-22T13:54:00.830-08:002018-01-22T13:54:00.830-08:00"you cannot derive up from down"
So no..."you cannot derive up from down" <br /><br />So now I think I get the meaning of "as above, so below."Olden Earshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07431608770606724754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-720967230898218492018-01-22T10:33:06.734-08:002018-01-22T10:33:06.734-08:00Yes, that's not surprising. What can be observ...Yes, that's not surprising. What can be observed so powerfully contradicts most religions that there can either faith or science, but not both.<br /><br />Much like how without the many specific circumstances of our planet, moon, solar system, galaxy, etc., there would be no life on Earth.<br /><br />That Christianity is not proven wrong by science is a pretty powerful indicator that it is in fact the Truth.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73541301199369867142018-01-22T10:29:11.254-08:002018-01-22T10:29:11.254-08:00Stanley Jaki and others have written extensively o...Stanley Jaki and others have written extensively on this (Rodney Stark comes to mind). Science requires a very specific metaphysic, which is why it was "stillborn" in all other civilizations.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00911613613759942690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26357917528097215672018-01-22T10:26:33.150-08:002018-01-22T10:26:33.150-08:00But they assume it for religious reasons, in that ...<i>But they assume it for religious reasons, in that they assume the cosmos of the Bible, not, say, Buddhist cosmology</i><br /><br />Huh. I don't know that I've ever thought of it that way before. What would a Buddhist cosmology look like? It couldn't posit a big bang; would it recognize the speed with which various bits of the universe are scattering from each other, or would it come up with a different set of theories to explain what can be scientifically observed? Would a Buddhist cosmology posit black holes?<br /><br />Very interesting thought. <br /><br />I'd love to see an atheist scientist try studying the universe from a different cosmological perspective, just to see if it generated any different testable theories.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com