tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2872133514097766735..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Man: Putting the Quest in QuestionGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77037884583505436942012-11-25T08:46:11.086-08:002012-11-25T08:46:11.086-08:00Bob, watched it again this weekend with the boy. W...Bob, watched it again this weekend with the boy. We haven't yet discussed the allusions..<br /><br />Anyways, you'll headjoy this one. I can't believe I missed it. It was right there in plain sight:<br /><br />What literally does McMurphy offer Chief when he nudges him two times?<br /><br />Chief's replys each time are just as rich and perfect.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13775876043267661342012-11-19T08:01:53.797-08:002012-11-19T08:01:53.797-08:00yowza---we could all use some tranks this month!
...yowza---we could all use some tranks this month!<br /><br />meanwhile a headline:<br />"Twinkies likely to survive, become a foreign import"<br />...Your local unions at workgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50376292189357788862012-11-18T18:29:40.266-08:002012-11-18T18:29:40.266-08:00I mean, if you still have it you could donate it t...I mean, if you still have it you could donate it to his Presidential library, take a nice tax deduction.John Lienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302615225311776021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1464924791668523432012-11-18T16:52:37.748-08:002012-11-18T16:52:37.748-08:00ge. Good story. So what did you end up doing with...ge. Good story. So what did you end up doing with Gerald Ford's Valium?John Lienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302615225311776021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-48957823067746220002012-11-18T13:29:38.480-08:002012-11-18T13:29:38.480-08:00"Ah, good question! If you are intellectually..."Ah, good question! If you are intellectually honest, the first thing you will acknowledge is that man is a mystery to himself, period. "<br /><br />So true. When we are 1 years old, we are astonished at those 2 flppy appendages (legs) that appear to be under our control... but even then not sure of that.<br /><br />Likewise goes for dealing with the heat and pressure of an experience (such as understanding a concept you were supposed to know, but must now evoke .... something ... anything ... during a test you are taking on the subject) and drawing on those unknown deep reserves where suddenly the concpet is illuminated whereas before it was not.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25112726465108863162012-11-18T13:12:25.293-08:002012-11-18T13:12:25.293-08:00"Again, it seems to me that he's (Rahner)..."Again, it seems to me that he's (Rahner) putting it all out before having completely digested and assimilated the material, so that too much work is required on the reader's part. "<br /><br />My guess is that he needs to spend time as "A Nony Mouse" in a comments section in cyberspace and learn the true meaning of the Cyberspace Golden Rule:<br /><br />"May your flames be witty, insulting, interesting, <br />paradoxical, funny, illogical, caustic, sarcastic, even inconsistent - but never, <br />ever, let them be boring. "<br /><br />http://www.flayme.com/flame/04-psychology.shtml#Boring<br /><br />Its the true aritst who can write a very long post and yet keep a captive Raccoon hungry for more.<br /><br />Hi Bob! :)<br /><br />On the internet, boring is death.Cond0011https://www.blogger.com/profile/04576204654819543273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20151184762861005062012-11-18T10:32:07.869-08:002012-11-18T10:32:07.869-08:00-A brief off-wall comedic real-life situation i wa...-A brief off-wall comedic real-life situation i was in with the director Milos Forman & McMurphy Jack himself!:<br />Milos came to Telluride Film Festival #2 [2012 was 39th!] with Aurore Clément, the young starlet of Malle's 'Lacombe Lucien', which we had premiered at the Flick theatre in Denver where I worked p/t [owned by the Film Fest mavens]<br />I had driven to Telluride with a friend and we stopped in Vail on the way for lunch and to see his pal who was working the desk at some resort there. This guy relayed the strange fact that ex-Prez Gerald Ford was staying there and someone had left the briefcase sitting there in his office-- with Gerald's Valium prescription-- when checking in some minutes before. He asked us if we wanted any of his pills for our weekend and we said 'sure!'...and off we continued to the mountain town. <br /><br />Well, the lovely Aurore, it turned out at one of the Q&A's, was hit with a toothache on arrival and was in pretty much pain; so afterwards I graciously-manically approached her & Milos with a midwestern 'Howdy!' and aksed her if she would like any of Gerald Ford's valium for her condition! [briefly sharing the story how i came to have the pills] She sensibly declined, :) But i did get to glimpse her up-close smile & receive merci's for the offer. <br /><br />Now, I had taken some quarter z's of grass to sell for spending $, and on the last day, after Kenneth Anger* agreed to buy breakfast for anyone who stayed up all night and watched some of his rare old Fatty Arbuckle collection-- I think I slipped away late to snooze then got up early to attend! and I approached Nicholson's table [he was there alone at the cafe] and aksed if he'd like to get any! Otra vez I struck out sharing my toys but not for want of swinging!<br />Who else was there....? Buck Henry!<br /><br />*had more run-ins w/ him there + in later yearsgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20037687481982158512012-11-18T09:10:19.247-08:002012-11-18T09:10:19.247-08:00Re. the fold catastrophe, it occurs to me just now...Re. the fold catastrophe, it occurs to me just now that while a great many people are in the habit of predicting The End of the World as we Know It™, especially by natural - or naturally man-made - disaster, very few seem to genuinely believe anything of the sort will happen. At the same time, many of those prophets of unlikely doom have been working diligently to bring about the conditions which will almost certainly bring about, well, The End of the World as we Know It™.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23976329118273278372012-11-18T08:58:38.672-08:002012-11-18T08:58:38.672-08:00Speaking of chaos, that's what Ratched maintai...Speaking of chaos, that's what Ratched maintains in the therapy sessions. When the disciples are all fighting with themselves; divided, <i>then</i> she looks pleased.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60270221218182889452012-11-18T08:56:00.011-08:002012-11-18T08:56:00.011-08:00Yes, the skullcap and IV's!
And the opening sc...Yes, the skullcap and IV's!<br />And the opening scene -- yes when the camera looks up -- the angels, that's it. One of them is giggling, but you don't see which.<br /><br />Dr Spivey is Pontius Pilate and there are official councils with the other drs and high priests. McMurphy proves in a sort of "meaning debate" with one of them that he is smarter even than this one.<br /><br />You might like "The Making Of..." disc, Bob. The screenplay writer is a raccoon I think. He talks about the "script of life" and he gets a bit choked up at the end.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20319327175001769472012-11-18T08:39:27.702-08:002012-11-18T08:39:27.702-08:00Yeah, this is pretty much what Petey says about th...Yeah, <a href="http://downgradediary.blogspot.com/2012/11/waiting-for-return-of-old-gods.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> is pretty much what Petey says about the forthcoming "fold catastrophe," -- which will take us from the age of men back to the age of chaos. If it's not 12.12.12, it might as well be, if you're looking at it from a 14 billion year cosmic perspective....Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-42886491009536466082012-11-18T08:30:39.815-08:002012-11-18T08:30:39.815-08:00Putting booze in the IVs = water to wine...Putting booze in the IVs = water to wine...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71723398522113894682012-11-18T08:30:01.730-08:002012-11-18T08:30:01.730-08:00Breaking the window to get the cigarettes = going ...Breaking the window to get the cigarettes = going off on the moneychangers...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60236101930366148372012-11-18T08:27:32.613-08:002012-11-18T08:27:32.613-08:00Cheswick is like the meekest of the bunch, and he&...Cheswick is like the meekest of the bunch, and he's the first real disciple...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9462750288869768852012-11-18T08:24:27.736-08:002012-11-18T08:24:27.736-08:00And how about the fact that McMurphy wears that ca...And how about the fact that McMurphy wears that cap, which is like a yarmulke or other religious skullcap...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56441269731862448782012-11-18T08:22:10.811-08:002012-11-18T08:22:10.811-08:00I'm just thinking too of how no one even knows...I'm just thinking too of how no one even knows how to speak when McMurphy gets there. Harding just kind of bloviates in a vague, vaporous, and pretentious manner, not unlike the tenured, and the Nurse makes sure that truth can't be spoken in any event.<br /><br />Also re Billy -- think of how he betrays McMurphy when the cock crows in the morning, a parallel to Peter. <br /><br /><br />Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66582292526334078972012-11-18T08:17:57.203-08:002012-11-18T08:17:57.203-08:00Very good.
Re your last observation, it's al...Very good. <br /><br />Re your last observation, it's almost as if he's "accepted his cup," so to speak.<br /><br />Also in that first scene, notice how there's an upward shot that makes it look like the inside of the cathedral. You can see a couple of patients looking down on the scene, almost like angels or something.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23299710099381191002012-11-18T08:10:41.838-08:002012-11-18T08:10:41.838-08:00OT, but not really,
Received this week the 2-disc,...OT, but not really,<br />Received this week the 2-disc, special edition of OFotCN ($1.84 on Amazon -- WhataCountry). Nice "The Making of" thing on disc 2 btw, Bob.<br /><br />Watched it last night. A few new Bobservations, thanks B2Bob:<br /><br />McMurphy (first scene) arrives in chains to the world of crazybelief. The scene Begins with a "kiss", which is to say, that's when "it all goes down".<br /><br />McMurphy, hands at the wheel of the Cosmic Bus, (wink) - wide shot as the bus makes a "right angle" turn on two wheels - says, "Come on! <i>It's easy!</i>" (his yokes are pretty light).<br /><br />McMurphy descends to satan's place to save the dead (the strangle scene) but doesn't perish <i>there</i>, only his early life is crucified.<br /><br />There are open windows which McMurphy does not pass through. Not yet.<br /><br />The indian rolls the stone through the window.<br /><br />There are a number of scenes of McMurphy and his nine disciples around a table. He is in the center. He is often dressed differently then he is. Around the table he shows them and explains things to them; things in private (how to play cards, how to bet properly). He loses his patience with them often. After his crucifixion, Martini finally plays right (understands how a broken cigarette is not a dime nor two nickles; only a whole one is of value. Chief runs off into the world with McMurphy's spirit in him (says, "Let's go."); Chief is Christianity itself; the good news going forth.<br /><br />After Billy is awakened unstuttering, Ratched crows a few things about where he comes from and the new shame is nothing but the old shame. Billy says he was made to do it. She asks for them to be identified. Billy betrays McMurphy and McMurphy is amazed.<br /><br />No man spake as this man McMurphy did about the World Series and they see this miracle <i>as</i> he sees it.<br /><br />At the end of the big funeral party there is an extended close up of McMurphy's face as he seems to meditate on what has happened to his disciples and downloads something Bigger. His face goes through several emotions in sequence. He isn't in the room for a minute as if almost in downlogue with the man upstairs, then he smiles, then closes his eyes as if "it is all over" and goes to sleep in his cloudhidden.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-369230650108066142012-11-16T17:30:48.570-08:002012-11-16T17:30:48.570-08:00Thanks Bob, that's great news.
I hate taking m...Thanks Bob, that's great news.<br />I hate taking morphine for the reasons you stated. USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9399518817607262302012-11-16T17:00:55.899-08:002012-11-16T17:00:55.899-08:00Ben: Gabapentin can be tolerated in huge doses, s...Ben: Gabapentin can be tolerated in huge doses, since it's pretty much a natural substance. <br /><br />Cymbalta has been approved for neuropathic pain, and can be very effective. It's so much better than taking potentially addictive painkillers (which also lead to hyperalgesia, or more pain, in the long run). It is an excellent drug -- good for anxiety, depression, sleep, and various types of chronic pain. I recommended it to a patient just today. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23640574287646641612012-11-16T16:53:38.407-08:002012-11-16T16:53:38.407-08:00Er, Gabapentin that is.Er, Gabapentin that is.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1607413414511431852012-11-16T16:52:49.749-08:002012-11-16T16:52:49.749-08:00Bob, I'm currently using Gapapenten for PN. It...Bob, I'm currently using Gapapenten for PN. It does help but not always enough.<br /><br />I didn't know cymbalta also is used for PN. Have the results been encouraging?<br /><br />If so I'll ask my Doc about it.<br /> USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39184177987653551192012-11-16T16:45:49.022-08:002012-11-16T16:45:49.022-08:00Therefore, Rahner posits man as "the universa...Therefore, Rahner posits man as "the universal question he is for himself." You might even say that man is the original (?!), or the sacred WTF! <br /><br />I mean, right? Isn't it obvious when you think about it? And isn't it immediately apparent that such godforsaken disciplines as evolutionary psychology and behaviorism are just so much whistling past the graveyard, just fairy tales the tenured tell themselves so they can sleep at night?"<br /><br />Aye! Emphantically I might add.<br />It used to really bother me not to have all the answers to the mystery of I and the mystery of I Am.<br /><br />Now, I have slowly begun to appreciate the mysteries and to gno that there's some answers I'm not ready for and that's Ok.<br /><br />But more than that I have learned to trust the Mystery.<br /><br />That, among other things I have learned from your book n' blog B'ob! <br />And there's more...?!<br />Thanks man. :^)<br /><br />USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-2847937116124619262012-11-16T16:31:59.035-08:002012-11-16T16:31:59.035-08:00Thanks. I'll ask about those at my next appoin...Thanks. I'll ask about those at my next appointment. I may hold off a bit, though - there's no pain, mostly just numbness; don't know if potential side effects would be worth the trade-off at this point.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40685976176641646792012-11-16T16:30:45.348-08:002012-11-16T16:30:45.348-08:00OT, beg pardon [then again 20th c philosophers hav...OT, beg pardon [then again 20th c philosophers have been mentioned here of late] ..Anyone dip into <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/57271875/The-Empty-Plenum-David-Markson-s-Wittgenstein-s-Mistress" rel="nofollow">Wittgenstein’s Mistress </a> yet?gehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.com