tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2340615830111588098..comments2024-03-29T06:03:45.545-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Contemporary Liberalism and the Resurrection of the Blood FeudGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90022143605665617562011-03-17T19:43:05.122-07:002011-03-17T19:43:05.122-07:00Another point might be that evils are always perve...Another point might be that evils are always perversions of a natural good. In this case, ethnic super-identity (or mobsterism based on race) is in fact a twisted version of something that could be good, and isn't. I realize this is Platonism...but a case could be made that this is a Christian view properly as well.Matthew C Smallwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08234878138545287306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10549268687710813642011-03-17T19:40:56.694-07:002011-03-17T19:40:56.694-07:00Quote
"Upton makes a more subtle point, that...Quote <br />"Upton makes a more subtle point, that the person who descends into the swamp of blood and race cannot help dividing his own mind against itself, which requires psychological projection in order to maintain a fraudulent sense of psychic wholeness."<br /><br />Why are the only alternatives either race/blood are completely irrelevant, and race/blood are God? Is all the ground in between a swamp?Matthew C Smallwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08234878138545287306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57411261403145220542011-03-17T09:18:31.840-07:002011-03-17T09:18:31.840-07:00Like our brother Johan! He's an American! :^)
...Like our brother Johan! He's an American! :^)<br /><br />And let us not forget Magnus. But indeed Ben, American is not (only) a nationality.<br /><br />/JohanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12049158237454508542011-03-17T06:43:09.619-07:002011-03-17T06:43:09.619-07:00Yes. The Raccoon is ultimately soph-educated.Yes. The Raccoon is ultimately soph-educated.Peteynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65415004130605780622011-03-17T06:09:51.713-07:002011-03-17T06:09:51.713-07:00Great post.
"We have by no means conquered t...Great post.<br /><br />"We have by no means conquered these mind parasites. The attempt to do so begins with the ancient Israelights, moves on through Christianity, and then has its fullest political expression in the United States, which was explicitly founded upon ideas and values, not blood or soil."<br /><br />...reminds of this from the Philokalia:<br /><br />St Neilos the Ascetic,<br /><br />"Many Greeks and not a few Jews attempted to philosophize; but only the disciples of Christ have pursued true wisdom, because they alone have Wisdom as their teacher.."Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89555379643499656552011-03-17T04:41:54.870-07:002011-03-17T04:41:54.870-07:00Van said...
'One in the many' enables the...Van said...<br /><br />'One in the many' enables the various quantities to be contained, their differences made meaningless, is what is felt as a threat? Why else would the otherwise warring quantities band together (for instance islambies & gay rights wackivists), except that they see the fact of the others basis in quantitative power, as validating their own embrace of power along with a mutual rejection of that higher perspective which ever threatens to render their quantities meaningless and powerless?"<br /><br />I think you're onto something there, Van. Good aye! :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10787067370951942462011-03-17T04:38:22.378-07:002011-03-17T04:38:22.378-07:00"Proglodyte Left"...LOL! That's a ke..."Proglodyte Left"...LOL! That's a keeper, Bob! :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4692943947376642532011-03-17T04:31:59.401-07:002011-03-17T04:31:59.401-07:00"We have by no means conquered these mind par..."We have by no means conquered these mind parasites. The attempt to do so begins with the ancient Israelights, moves on through Christianity, and then has its fullest political expression in the United States, which was explicitly founded upon ideas and values, not blood or soil. Anyone can be an American, so long as they adopt certain values."<br /><br />Like our brother Johan! He's an American! :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38362236031421335082011-03-16T22:37:38.547-07:002011-03-16T22:37:38.547-07:00In other words, if the topic is Great Scientists, ...In other words, if the topic is Great Scientists, I don't care if they're male or female, I care what they discovered.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77527580156398246542011-03-16T22:35:20.037-07:002011-03-16T22:35:20.037-07:00:D
Well yes, context matters! I guess what I mean...:D<br /><br />Well yes, context matters! I guess what I meant is that I tend to be just as put off by giving anyone special credit for lacking a Y chromosome as I am by giving anyone special credit for having a particular skin color. <br /><br />I am not even remotely interested in conflating male and female, I'm just tired of all the militant feminist BS.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83821820712211360372011-03-16T22:06:33.877-07:002011-03-16T22:06:33.877-07:00Julie said "...the next least interesting oug...Julie said "...the next least interesting ought to be gender."<br /><br />'<i>Least</i> interesting'?... hmm... well...maybe depending upon a particular point of view involved, but I suspect that regarding the female gender, that may not hold true for some; males between 11 & 99, for instance.<br /><br />Just sayin'.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-31495019681685023472011-03-16T21:49:54.692-07:002011-03-16T21:49:54.692-07:00Heh. This would only be surprising to a leftist.Heh. <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/15/ron-schiller-is-wrong-people-who-want-small-government-are-not-racist/" rel="nofollow">This would only be surprising</a> to a leftist.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-49242357922155741842011-03-16T19:50:46.576-07:002011-03-16T19:50:46.576-07:00They don't waste any time, do they? It's m...They don't waste any time, do they? It's maddening. Of all the characteristics about a person, one of the ones that ought to be <i>the least</i> interesting is their racial background. And in discussing <i>accomplishments</i>, the next least interesting ought to be gender.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27005200334228994802011-03-16T18:56:30.605-07:002011-03-16T18:56:30.605-07:00Truly, there is no escape from the poison. Even g...Truly, there is no escape from the poison. Even going to a Catholic school, I see that Tristan brought home a little miniature Time magazine for kids. The cover has a picture of Obama, and says "Learn about African-American leaders, artists, scientists and athletes."<br /><br />Why? Why not GREAT artists, or COURAGEOUS leaders, or BRILLIANT scientists? Why does the adjective "African American" have any significance whatsoever, especially to a 6 year-old?<br /><br />Tristan's best friend is black, and so far he doesn't even know it. Why is it so important for the left that a 6 year-old be aware of race?<br /><br />Truly, it's a soul sickness.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9799957703451659202011-03-16T18:12:02.188-07:002011-03-16T18:12:02.188-07:00A noble society is one where obeying and exercisin...A noble society is one where obeying and exercising authority are ethical behaviors, and not mere practical necessities.Don Colachonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33133751096723989362011-03-16T17:42:50.341-07:002011-03-16T17:42:50.341-07:00Will - indeed; also, all things considered I don&#...Will - indeed; also, all things considered I don't think I qualify as doglike. The dogs I know are generally much more virtuous than I am.<br /><br />To the post, re. the counterfeiters posing as alchemists, I think they might have earned their place. In today's terms, they're the sellers of homeopathic water and other useless treatments taken by the gullible to heal their ills, often at the expense of medicines and procedures that could genuinely help. Think of the cancer victim who goes to one of those phony faith healers who "non-surgically" removes a "tumor" (with a convincing bit of theatrics and slight-of-hand) or drinks water "infused" with some essence that supposedly will shrink the tumor. From a spiritual perspective, they lead the faithful away from true healing, true whole-iness. Anybody who's lost a loved-one to that sort of fraud would no doubt feel the false-alchemist completely deserved his fate, I suspect.<br /><br />Re. The resurgence of blood - or in a sense, tribalism - over the American way, <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704893604576200522251828538.html" rel="nofollow">Taranto yesterday</a> noted the sinister "suggestion" by the police and fire department unions that a business support their political cause or suffer consequences. The union tribes, in brotherly solidarity, would seem to be less concerned with defending the Constitution than with defending the honor and interests of their brethren. Justice quite literally becomes personalistic when those who are charged with maintaining the rule of law selectively choose to enforce it. Additionally, on that note our laws have become so convoluted in recent days that the defenders of justice cannot help but selectively enforce it. If I didn't know better, I'd think that was by design...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61546352507116430362011-03-16T15:24:21.460-07:002011-03-16T15:24:21.460-07:00Liberty: Gold
Equality: Shite
Trying and believin...Liberty: Gold<br />Equality: Shite<br /><br />Trying and believing as hard as they can, the alchemists of social justice can never turn shite into gold. Unfortunately, they can turn gold into a whole lot more shite.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19232170473011601182011-03-16T15:00:57.245-07:002011-03-16T15:00:57.245-07:00Masoch:
You have somethng there. The teuton/sa...Masoch: <br /><br /> You have somethng there. The teuton/saxon has had his merry way with the world and its peoples over the last millenium. A lusty and vigouous people launched from the germanic forest clearings, leaping to the british isles and thence to wide america before fetching up agains the bamboo barrier of the feisty asiatics, <br />they've managed to civilize to some extent almost all peoples but there is a deep and brooding resentment there too. <br /><br />I think this smouldering anger drives alot of cultural and political movements worldwide, including islamism, leftism and militant feminism.<br /><br />The saxon way is a manly, hetero, family centered and vigorous life-force and has greatly improved the world, but it has undeniably done violence and this now must be paid for.Toot On Voutonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51897619742495473912011-03-16T14:50:59.121-07:002011-03-16T14:50:59.121-07:00>> . . . parochialism of blood and kin.<&...>> . . . parochialism of blood and kin.<<<br /><br />To quote the Master:<br /><br /> "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple."<br /><br />Which I think sheds a little light on what many find to be an enigmatic saying.<br /><br />And hey, Early Morn troll, I too am one of Bob's ardent running dogs, am disconsolate you omitted me.<br /><br />"running dog" . . . heh, last time I heard that term it was coming out of the greasy jowls of Chairman Mao.willnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44225611597328602022011-03-16T14:11:13.291-07:002011-03-16T14:11:13.291-07:00The triumph of diversity over morality.The <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262234/are-children-infected-judeo-christian-values-paul-diamond" rel="nofollow">triumph of diversity over morality</a>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-43687863054395464752011-03-16T14:00:01.623-07:002011-03-16T14:00:01.623-07:00Liberal racism. Jackie Robinson rotates in his sa...<a href="http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/16/grant-hills-response-to-jalen-rose/" rel="nofollow">Liberal racism</a>. Jackie Robinson rotates in his sarcophagus.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45677200072488274682011-03-16T13:34:57.733-07:002011-03-16T13:34:57.733-07:00Van:
I see what you are getting at but intuitivel...Van:<br /><br />I see what you are getting at but intuitively the metaphysical explanation feels too complex or too cerebral to be the real cause of the unlikely alliances between the various enemy camps.<br /><br />I feel the common denominator is more likely a desire to "stick it to the {white hetero} man."<br /><br />What is your take on that?Count Masoch de Sadenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34842027293034296512011-03-16T12:42:47.009-07:002011-03-16T12:42:47.009-07:00"Upton makes a more subtle point, that the pe..."Upton makes a more subtle point, that the person who descends into the swamp of blood and race cannot help dividing his own mind against itself, which requires psychological projection in order to maintain a fraudulent sense of psychic wholeness."<br /><br />Hmmm... creating and associating yourself with a faux hierarchy, one horizontally based upon numeric power, rather than verticality.<br /><br />I wonder if the fact that the vertical 'One in the many' enables the various quantities to be contained, their differences made meaningless, is what is felt as a threat? Why else would the otherwise warring quantities band together (for instance islambies & gay rights wackivists), except that they see the fact of the others basis in quantitative power, as validating their own embrace of power along with a mutual rejection of that higher perspective which ever threatens to render their quantities meaningless and powerless?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-27429468379125284872011-03-16T12:18:30.947-07:002011-03-16T12:18:30.947-07:00"But this is a shrill smokescream anyway, bec..."But this is a shrill smokescream anyway, because we all understand that the left's hysteria about race and gender is just the rationale for a raw power play. Their "racial pride" does not extend to Thomas Sowell or Clarence Thomas or Walter Williams or Shelby Steele."<br /><br />Yep, the left is anti-conceptual, it is entirely dependent upon imposing Power over Truth. It will always retreat from principles into particulars because that is the way to change the footing of a conversation from Truth, to Power. It masks it's intent as 'getting real' or 'dealing with the actual issues that are important to Americans when sitting at their table', but what it actually means is discarding any Qualitative question of Right and Wrong, in order to discuss Quantitative issues, because the moment you stop discussing whether or not, say, the Income Tax is Right or Wrong, and begin discussing whether a 'reasonable' upper percentage would be 60% or 30%, you've conceded their position and thrown out the only thing can could save you - the principle involved. <br /><br />To retain the advantage of the moral high ground... it requires that you stay on the high ground!<br /><br />If our side would just stop getting hypnotized by the lure of being seen as being 'reasonable', and start using Right Reason, the full support of Vertical Truth would be available to us... but nooo... we always want to seem bigger in worldly eyes... and we get sucked down into it, falling 32 ft per sec, per sec.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71684804582780803942011-03-16T11:43:35.169-07:002011-03-16T11:43:35.169-07:00"The proglodyte left"
Lol, that alone i..."The proglodyte left"<br /><br />Lol, that alone is worth the price of admission.<br /><br />Back to reading....Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.com