tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post1354449277117778115..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Reading the Sunday Timeless -- Live Tree Edition (3.21.10)Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61010707191219097992008-03-31T08:39:00.000-07:002008-03-31T08:39:00.000-07:00We basically had the same thesis.We basically had the same thesis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69499062393307203592008-03-31T04:51:00.000-07:002008-03-31T04:51:00.000-07:00I guess that should be "Fergeddit™."I guess that should be "Fergeddit™."walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4023258502986159772008-03-31T04:42:00.000-07:002008-03-31T04:42:00.000-07:00The late Art Hoppe wrote a column about the anti-v...The late Art Hoppe wrote a column about the anti-viagra when the blue pill was first introduced -- for those folks who are just not very interested in the whole "scene" (Hoppe was in S.F.).<BR/><BR/>He suggested it be called "Fergeddit."walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56278460959831066022008-03-31T03:42:00.000-07:002008-03-31T03:42:00.000-07:00I am all for the anti-viagra, and have in fact for...I am all for the anti-viagra, and have in fact for years occasionally wondered in public why the more affluent churches haven't invested heavily in such research for the benefit of their monks, missionaries etc.<BR/><BR/>However! There is a lot more to "the Resistance" than merely our sex drive. Some people I know have a naturally low sex drive, or one reduced as a side effect of antidepressiva. This translates directly into more time for playing World of Warcraft.<BR/><BR/>There will always be an excuse for not having time for God (or Dharma, the Light etc).<BR/><BR/>The reason why an anti-viagra would be a good thing is that if it existed, people would be forced to admit that they really don't want it.Magnus Itlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445902788427523461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30111120158839361862008-03-30T23:34:00.000-07:002008-03-30T23:34:00.000-07:00Anon said,"More and more people could take the cel...Anon said,<BR/><BR/>"More and more people could take the celibate route, causing a welcome drop in our turgid populations and producing a healthy crop of uber-spiritual Divine helpers, selfless and expendable."<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm, dress it up in spirituality and it still comes out smelling control freak eco/marxist, especially the "uber" and "expendable" parts.<BR/>Why don't you go first, just to show the rest how it's done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40215486916139290112008-03-30T22:25:00.000-07:002008-03-30T22:25:00.000-07:00'The onus of mating, reproduction, and the resulta...'The onus of mating, reproduction, and the resultant complications are the main diversion from the spiritual "superhighway."'<BR/><BR/>Riiight. No particular reason for the whole "it is not good that Man should be alone" schtick.<BR/><BR/>Sorry, anon, but if O wanted humans to be asexual, there are lots of ways it could have been done without the whole marriage, two sexes and no adultery bit. In point of fact, within the context of a good marriage spirituality can actually be <I>enhanced</I>, not repressed. Obviously, you haven't experienced that kind of relationship (for which I pity you, deeply). Which is not to say that everyone is cut out for marriage, either. <BR/><BR/>There are many paths to a deeper spirituality. <BR/><BR/>A blanket moratorium on sexuality would not make more of the human population spiritual, it would simply divert their attention (and obsessions) to other things. And there are so very many other horizontal things to focus on that it would be decidedly naive to think they'd automatically go vertical without a sex drive.<BR/><BR/>If you want to be non-sexual, go for it - nobody here is stopping you, and for some people it <I>is</I> the right path. If you think that is the only or best on-ramp to the "spiritual superhighway," however, you are sadly mistaken.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12237317682508869872008-03-30T19:54:00.000-07:002008-03-30T19:54:00.000-07:00Anonymous said "Very few choose the straight and n...Anonymous said "Very few choose the straight and narrow. Now why is that? Is that the will of God?" <BR/><BR/>The will of God <I>is</I> the straight and narrow, and the path is there for Man to choose to follow - or not - but it is the only path to the deistination - you can focus and follow it, or nod at the weil and vear off into the weeds - that's up to the will of Man... and <I>that</I> is the will of God.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-21442110181112626802008-03-30T19:45:00.000-07:002008-03-30T19:45:00.000-07:00And there's a point where the body politic has bec...And there's a point where the body politic has become so flacid and out of shape, unable to resist at all, and the locusts come in. Europe's gone dark at least twice before... wonder if Fitna will be a wake up call, or a snooze button?Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-88254127381784949112008-03-30T19:41:00.000-07:002008-03-30T19:41:00.000-07:00"...the reason why the world is so full of analogy..."...the reason why the world is so full of analogy, metaphor, and symbol, is that these aren't just literary devices but literal deivoices, i.e., the ethereal Word made fleshy, or earthereal. No matter how lo One gos, the logos goes two. And then three, as we shall see."<BR/><BR/>Once again, the price of admission here is repaid ten fold...an hundred fold ... oh heck, no need for any fold... or spindle or mutilate... print it to a mobius strip, deposit in the Klein bottle piggy bank, and watch your gnosis investment return infinite interest....<BR/><BR/>wv:begbbaki ... no veri, you missed the point, gno need to beg bor... oh... the heck with it.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60777033754781754452008-03-30T19:31:00.000-07:002008-03-30T19:31:00.000-07:00Anon,It's not just the DNA that seeks to reproduce...Anon,<BR/>It's not just the DNA that seeks to reproduce, it's also the memes that propagate around the world at the speed of thought. There is a cosmic battle between the Judeo-Christian "kingdom of God" meme (apologies for squeezing such a rich theme into a four letter word) versus an assorted rabble of jihadists and marxist weirdoes who find reality unthinkable and strive to impose their psychosocial disorder on the rest of us. <BR/><BR/>And I have a funny feeling that the reality-challenged memes will disintegrate in the face of Truth. (If I may be excused for using such such bigoted non-inclusive terminology q-: )Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15748681484256501222008-03-30T18:24:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:24:00.000-07:00Funny. Just today I was thinking to myself that a...Funny. Just today I was thinking to myself that asceticism involves the path of lust resistance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52283698738191756342008-03-30T18:22:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:22:00.000-07:00"More and more people could take the celibate rout..."More and more people could take the celibate route, causing a welcome drop in our turgid populations and producing a healthy crop of uber-spiritual Divine helpers, selfless and expendable."<BR/><BR/>How does that jive with be fruitful and multiply? Just today headlines are announing that Muslims now outnumber Catholics, though I doubt all Christians. The point is he/she who mates is the winner. It doesn't take much imagination to see what Europe will look like in 50-100 years given the birth rates of the Muslims relative to the native Europeans.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-42147353466666782702008-03-30T18:11:00.000-07:002008-03-30T18:11:00.000-07:00I'm going to have to agree with Freud and say that...I'm going to have to agree with Freud and say that, in response to Bob's talk of resistance, sexual tension creates one of the main sources of resistance to spirit.<BR/><BR/>Truly, without the sexual drive, what would be left to do here? One could become purely selfless and helpful like Mother Teresa and reach lofty spiritual goals in one lifetime.<BR/><BR/>The onus of mating, reproduction, and the resultant complications are the main diversion from the spiritual "superhighway." Very few choose the straight and narrow. Now why is that? Is that the will of God? <BR/><BR/>What gives? I say, in response to the challenges of spiritual development, humanity should find a real "off button" for the sex drive, which would allow people, for the first time, a real choice in the matter. Perhaps a pill could be developed to knock out the drive?<BR/><BR/>More and more people could take the celibate route, causing a welcome drop in our turgid populations and producing a healthy crop of uber-spiritual Divine helpers, selfless and expendable.<BR/><BR/>This could be the an option for the eventual spiritualizing of the human species.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15485443712983885202008-03-30T16:20:00.000-07:002008-03-30T16:20:00.000-07:00It seems that once a person is aware of the "analo...It seems that once a person is aware of the "analogies" that are woven into all of creation, one should be surprised if one does NOT see the parallels. Ever since I've understood these different "languages" as saying the same truth but through a different media, I have encouraged others to do the same through their special field, knowledge base, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-47244650265443076562008-03-30T16:17:00.000-07:002008-03-30T16:17:00.000-07:00Thanks for the lead, Bob - I should have guessed t...Thanks for the lead, Bob - I should have guessed that Schuon might be a part of it!<BR/><BR/>A recent example from yesterday was PCAs comment:<BR/>Father = Cosmos= Maker of all things, seen and unseen<BR/>Son = Scripture = Word<BR/>Spirit = Intellect = Spirit of Truth<BR/><BR/>Also, Magnus' illustrative comment was great.<BR/><BR/>Just now, you mentioned "As above, so below."<BR/><BR/>In all three cases, my understanding (?) seems to go beyond my remembering -- so the "words" help me re-collect. I know the real danger is to get tangled up in words. And of course no "list" of Laws will make a difference. <BR/><BR/>As always, trying to colonize parts of my brain!walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-396594328712106102008-03-30T15:42:00.000-07:002008-03-30T15:42:00.000-07:00Regarding the Laws, I find them most clearly artic...Regarding the Laws, I find them most clearly articulated in certain books by Schuon, for example, <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/dp/0941532275?tag=onecosmos-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=0941532275&adid=1FXB3M67946ZDT54XF5Y&" REL="nofollow">Survey of Metaphysics and Esoterism</A>. Then, once you understand them, you can appreciate how they are instantiated in, for example, Christianity. <BR/><BR/>Regarding the analogies between matter, life, and mind, those are discussed in the dissertation and in the papers I published afterwards. Until today I don't think I ever discussed this in terms of the law of analogy, or "as above, so below."Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44246021380662278102008-03-30T15:22:00.000-07:002008-03-30T15:22:00.000-07:00Well, just so you don't think you're being ignored...Well, just so you don't think you're being ignored, I have a number of questions about what you wrote today -- but I know that the One Cosmos is not a question and answer session!<BR/><BR/>For instance, you wrote,<BR/>"...we shouldn't be surprised at the fractal and holographic nature of reality, meaning that we see the same patterns and principles repeat themselves at all levels..."<BR/><BR/>Okay - the Laws are everywhere the same. Terrific insight, but though the posts hit the High notes daily, when I try to organize in words exactly what those Laws are, I find myself stumbling. Is there a way to organize the holographic principle more specifically, or is that just stabbing at Reality with the left brain?<BR/><BR/>Also you wrote about,<BR/>"I saw clear "analogies" between the way the physicist looks at the subatomic world, the way the biologist looks at life systems, and the way the psychoanalyst conceptualizes the deep structure of mental functioning. "Seeing" is one thing, but seeing what you're seeing is another. And to see this is yet another. In fact, you could almost say that this is the trinitarian structure of transcendence: knowing, knowing that you know, and then knowing that you know you know."<BR/><BR/>I may have missed a post where this was discussed, or need to re-read OCUG -- but if you feel inclined, your insights from your dissertation might shine a light on the prior question.<BR/><BR/>Finally, <A HREF="http://www.bankrate.com/yho/news/pf/20080219_lalanne_q&a_a1.asp" REL="nofollow">here's</A> proof about your statement that physical strength is a function of resistance!walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-80950355301003808752008-03-30T15:20:00.000-07:002008-03-30T15:20:00.000-07:00reminds me of a passage from Tomberg's Covenant of...reminds me of a passage from Tomberg's Covenant of the Heart where he describres matter as concentrated energy and energy as concentrated will. Thus the resurrected Christ was able to "pass through" doors. He is now master over matter simply by willing it to be.<BR/><BR/>pcaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57555602486883798022008-03-30T13:40:00.000-07:002008-03-30T13:40:00.000-07:00Sheesh.Finally got a post out of my system and ont...Sheesh.<BR/><BR/>Finally got a post out of my system and onto my site (starting in on <A HREF="http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/2008/03/liberal-fascism-getting-to-root-of.html" REL="nofollow">Liberal Fascism</A>), and was looking forward to catching up on Friday's OC... and here I find there was a <I>Saturday</I> but a <I>Sunday</I> too! And no one here to play with!<BR/><BR/>Sheesh.<BR/><BR/>Print. Print. Print.<BR/><BR/>Read, read, read... back later....Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.com