tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post117043282542061737..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Vertical Globalization and the Further Adventures of ConsciousnessGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90356949542137667702007-04-26T13:09:00.000-07:002007-04-26T13:09:00.000-07:00ms. "E"Please don't misconstrue me as something i ...ms. "E"<BR/><BR/>Please don't misconstrue me as something i am not, nor imply that I have made comments which I have not. You can easily post a link to what said directly. <BR/><BR/>btw- how would you know that I'm a "resisting muslim troll"? I merely question the reactionary rhetoric on all sides, but do not espouse it.<BR/><BR/>zzazzeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170972398069416122007-02-08T14:06:00.000-08:002007-02-08T14:06:00.000-08:00My three cents on the Godwin and Sam Harris:Perhap...My three cents on the Godwin and Sam Harris:<BR/><BR/>Perhaps Sam Harris is calling for the end of pre-rational faith, as opposed to the end of trans-rational faith, which as Godwin says is clearly a prerequisite for all vertical endeavors. Pre-rational faith is so prevelant amongst the Christian Right, radical Moslims, post-modern pluralists, and probably anyone not actively and conscioulsy developing beyond a separate-self sense, that a call to end this kind of dangerous, pre-rational faith might be a boon to a planet desperately in need of memetic development. Now, according to Spiral Dynamics and other developmental schemes, all stages of consciousness are recognized as being an integral part of an evolving cosmos. There can be healthy and unhealthy versions of each of these stages, but none-the-less, eventhough it might be hard to understand or accept, they say there is a place for all less-than-enlightened perspectives. In light of that, it seems rediculous to call for an end of pre-rational faith, for “pre-rationalism” would be part and parcel of evolving minds, and not until these minds reach a certain stage of development could they make the radical, top-down switch and really cultivate (o) in the purest sense. Why would Harris demand for the end of a natural psychological stage? Would that be as rediculous as calling for the end of rocks, grass or zebras? And why would Godwin intepret Harris’ call for the end of pre-rational faith as an attack on trans-rational faith? Even Harris has faith in reason and his meditative techniques.<BR/><BR/>In respect to Harris’ atheism, perhaps he is not saying that there is no ontological meaning in this beautiful cosmos, but there is simply no thing out there called God. A Buddhist atheism sounds like a far cry from a cold-blooded, flatland relationship to the universe, but more like a metaphysical get-up to shake people out of a deep-rooted psychological materialism. When Harris says he doesn’t believe in God, maybe he doesn’t believe in the mythic, old-man-in-the-sky God so prevalently believed in by the majority of mankind. In fact, Harris would probably argue that not only does an independent, self-contained, un-created, separate thing called God not exist, but from a certain perspective there is also is no such thing as a desk, chair, microscope, television, or any thing at all, and that any utterance about the existence of a thing would be an imputation and an exercise in the impossible, for the ebb and flow of the non-dual whole cannot be broken into parts, for it is a thing-in-itself. From that absolute, Madyamikin, advaitan perspective, though, even claiming atheism would a back-door approach to a non-duality that really won’t take “no-God” for an answer either.<BR/><BR/>Will the Sam-antics prevail? Does God-win in the end? Who knows, but I’m sure God’s non-existent Self is getting a real kick out of our metaphysics. I know I am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170508527273370472007-02-03T05:15:00.000-08:002007-02-03T05:15:00.000-08:00Glasr-Forgot to add:Although the veil will be gone...Glasr-<BR/>Forgot to add:<BR/>Although the veil will be gone, and we see clearly, doesn't mean we fully realize and experience all of God. <BR/>Indeed, that is what Eternity is for, among other things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170508350528376482007-02-03T05:12:00.000-08:002007-02-03T05:12:00.000-08:00Glasr-I believe that the word see, in reference to...Glasr-<BR/>I believe that the word see, in reference to seeing God, means to fully realize, comprehend, understand, gno in all His glory.<BR/><BR/>Even after we shed our bodies, I still don't believe we will see God fully, although we may gno more.<BR/><BR/>As Georges said, we have all of Eternity to 'see' God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170486295739042482007-02-02T23:04:00.000-08:002007-02-02T23:04:00.000-08:00We'll see soon enough how GOD reveals himself to u...We'll see soon enough how GOD reveals himself to us after jettisoning our bodies. The "kid" said she saw GOD, perhaps JESUS? Oh shit, maybe HEAVEN. The quote is the Apostle John's variation of GOD telling Moses such a thing. I think, maybe, uh, well, ah, little help here? heh hehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170465630307138892007-02-02T17:20:00.000-08:002007-02-02T17:20:00.000-08:00ms E:Great link(ye)to eclectech. Gotta wonder what...ms E:<BR/>Great link(ye)to eclectech. Gotta wonder what she would create with a 'Coon.<BR/><BR/>I'd buy stuff with those amusing fuxshops on them: cards, Tshirts, posters, etc. Perhaps an email is in order.ximezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969724903834433405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170460472686032292007-02-02T15:54:00.000-08:002007-02-02T15:54:00.000-08:00Cousin Dupree-Thanks for the link to American Thin...Cousin Dupree-<BR/>Thanks for the link to American Thinker (those guys can really think!). <BR/>It's a keeper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170460113754188272007-02-02T15:48:00.000-08:002007-02-02T15:48:00.000-08:00JWM/Booger the cat said..."Cassandra:I don't belie...JWM/Booger the cat said..."Cassandra:I don't believe you."<BR/><BR/>LOL, Nothing to do with what the commenter Cassandra said (I agree), but I had the same immediate impulse!<BR/><BR/>- If you don't get it, look up Cassandra in Wikipedia ;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170459816477557782007-02-02T15:43:00.000-08:002007-02-02T15:43:00.000-08:00For another aspect of pathological reactions to mo...For another aspect of pathological reactions to modernism, see Jeffrey Herf's study of Naziism, "Reactionary Modernism" (Cambridge U. Press).Bleeplesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11266223131463603911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170458800205214302007-02-02T15:26:00.000-08:002007-02-02T15:26:00.000-08:00Before y'all git too far down and dirty, lively up...Before y'all git too far down and dirty, lively up yourselves some Shaker music in the hands of those who can wring the spirit from it. It's distinctly American too, although more a blend of Celtic and northern Appalachian. Yankees didn't steal everything from General Lee's camp. :-) <BR/><BR/>For the acoustic side, check out "Simple Gifts", or "Tree of Life" from this catalog --> <A HREF="http://www.gourd.com/quickview.html" REL="nofollow">Gourd Music</A>. Anything from this indie label is gold. On the 110 voltage side, I've heard the Young Dubliners and Clumsy Lovers rip off some pretty hot Shaker licks from time to time.<BR/><BR/>Granted, the Shakers had something profoundly wrong as they extinctified themselves by expending all their energy stomping and hollering in their clapboard chapels, leaving no life force for the horizontal bump and grind, but they did leave behind some great music. <BR/><BR/>OK, all raccoons back south of the Mason-Dixon. Shoo!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170457214790558842007-02-02T15:00:00.000-08:002007-02-02T15:00:00.000-08:00Try Elvin Bishop, Koko Taylor on the same vinyl.Try Elvin Bishop, Koko Taylor on the same vinyl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170456592556563152007-02-02T14:49:00.001-08:002007-02-02T14:49:00.001-08:00Down here in Texas we like to do do the Suzie Q - ...Down here in Texas we like to do do the Suzie Q - a la Lightnin' Hopkins- all night long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170456586037905412007-02-02T14:49:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:49:00.000-08:00All night long.All night long.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170455998065440662007-02-02T14:39:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:39:00.000-08:00All night long.All night long.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170455853875360772007-02-02T14:37:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:37:00.000-08:00Uh, I think wang dang doodle IS a force of nature....Uh, I think wang dang doodle IS a force of nature.<BR/><BR/>;o)NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170455279935009932007-02-02T14:27:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:27:00.000-08:00No, here we do the Wang Dang Doodle.No, here we do the Wang Dang Doodle.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170454853219372592007-02-02T14:20:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:20:00.000-08:00GB - So, when you really want to shake it up, migh...GB - So, when you really want to shake it up, might I assume you also crank up Koko Taylor's "Force of Nature"? Whew, just thinkin' about it gets me movin'. (Plus my wife LOVES it).NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170453897556011482007-02-02T14:04:00.000-08:002007-02-02T14:04:00.000-08:00Nomo:I know it's a horror to traditionalists, but ...Nomo:<BR/><BR/>I know it's a horror to traditionalists, but I am more of an electric bluesman: Muddy, Wolf, Sonny Boy Williamson, Little Walter, Bobby Blue Bland, Big Joe Turner, Duane Allman and Stevie Ray would be my favorites. I can certainly appreciate the earlier stuff, but it doesn't shake my coon tail in the same way.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170453284139357452007-02-02T13:54:00.000-08:002007-02-02T13:54:00.000-08:00GB - Small point. I may have missed it, but have y...GB - Small point. I may have missed it, but have you ever mentioned Robert Johnson in your lists of "Cosmic American Music" origins? I have always considered him as The Source or at least very close to it.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170451786273738462007-02-02T13:29:00.000-08:002007-02-02T13:29:00.000-08:00Overheard at a modern day Beaumont and Fletcher me...Overheard at a modern day Beaumont and Fletcher melodrama workshop:<BR/><BR/>zzazzeefrazzee (a resisting muslim troll): "Why, slaves, 'tis in our power to hang ye."<BR/><BR/>Spencer, <A HREF="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015087.php#c343439" REL="nofollow">Fitzgerald</A> & and JihadWatch readers: <BR/>"Very likely,<BR/>'Tis in our powers, then, to be hanged, and scorn <A HREF="http://eclectech.co.uk/b3ta/greengrinner.jpg.html" REL="nofollow">ye</A>."<BR/><BR/>And so it goes - "Life is a festival only to the <A HREF="http://emerson.thefreelibrary.com/Essays-First-Series/8-1" REL="nofollow">wise</A>".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170449699791097222007-02-02T12:54:00.000-08:002007-02-02T12:54:00.000-08:00I took a pass on the War of the Rebellion discussi...I took a pass on the War of the Rebellion discussion. Just so everyone gets it straight - the South has risen - it's been over for a while. I'm ready to go home .......... tired of living among the defeated who don't have a clue.heh hehAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170449045730581882007-02-02T12:44:00.000-08:002007-02-02T12:44:00.000-08:00That was a little faster than I expected, the "Fut...That was a little faster than I expected, the "Future Leader" consideration, like that. Do you have a Time Machine too? heh heh The other connectivity I find fascinating is the infusion of the personal. If you only read the Web Log posts where Dr. Barnett(informality breeds disrespect - saying from the 'hood)writes of the "rhythms of life" none of his "circumnavalgazing" would be lost. Completely buries any other "blogger" with the exception of Washingtonian or perhaps Wonkette. heh heh That is not a request in any shape or form - no coonstalker me.So, if you have the time, skip the "tempest of the day" over there, look around for the rhythms, easy to spot. There are folks who believe Dr. Barnett needs psychoanalysis and therapy anyway. heh heh Correct me if I was wrong on the word, language creation, get you outta the chair funny, personal vertical - kinda struck me is all. I said nothing to the folks I filter for(who no longer come here, under your "I don't want to be famous" coonedict heh heh)but the WTF? is Dr. Godwin related to Dr. Barnett response was immediate. Of course, they're the same person, you're being converted to Catholicism,globalization mechanism, 5GW style, my reply. heh heh<BR/><BR/>Do read the books. The classical liberalism of The Founders is well, uh, um, right down to "at the point of a gun". We all know a little homogenization will not kill us as readily as some of the alternatives. And c'mon, who would believe that other human beings want to live in poverty, threatened by disease and at the mercy of blood thirsty maniacal despots besides libtardcommiecrats? <BR/><BR/>Maybe I should have sent this in an e-mail, wouldn't want any raccoons, uh, um, ya know, getting the wrong ring-tail head scratching ideas. Connectivity of the cults .... oops, I mean groups of strategic forward and upward thinkers. heh heh<BR/><BR/>Thanks. I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170446099158717782007-02-02T11:54:00.000-08:002007-02-02T11:54:00.000-08:00Speaking of pathological reactions to modernity, a...Speaking of pathological reactions to modernity, a wonderful article on the religion of radical environmentalism <A HREF="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/a_necessary_apocalypse.html" REL="nofollow">A Necessary Apocalypse</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170444492328751562007-02-02T11:28:00.000-08:002007-02-02T11:28:00.000-08:00Hey, I appreciate Southern culture in all its beni...Hey, I appreciate Southern culture in all its benign aspects as much as anybody. But I think Southern culture is the way it is, not because of its antebellum values, but because "it lost a war". <BR/><BR/>I don't think we'd see much of what we do see in Southern values had the South actually been successful in seceding from the Union. As I said before, the South was becoming more European in culture at the time of the Civil War - a certain royalty was forming, everyone else being a degree of serf. A reprise of feudal society, in other words. <BR/><BR/>However, by losing the war, by being as impoverished as it was, by suffering through the long years of recovery, I believe the South discovered within itself a certain liberating spiritual value that persists to this day. So, to a certain extent, by losing the war, the South forged for itself the real American spirit. <BR/><BR/>In short, we can thank Lincoln for Elvis. <BR/><BR/>Dupree - yeah, it's just damn eerie, isn't it? Actually, we're both just reading the same sky graffiti.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1170441725806700602007-02-02T10:42:00.000-08:002007-02-02T10:42:00.000-08:00A perpetual mystery... How does the First Deputy o...A perpetual mystery... How does the First Deputy of Doctrinal Enforcement always manage with such elan to simultaneously extend Dear Leader's functioning core of knowledge and fill in his unintegrated gaps? Are you twin sons of different Coon mothers or something?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com