tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post116671596919669428..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Announcing a New 12-Step Program for the Left: Apparatchiks AnonymousGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger162125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1167853524975417462007-01-03T11:45:00.000-08:002007-01-03T11:45:00.000-08:00As true today as it was when you wrote it.Wait, th...As true today as it was when you wrote it.<BR/><BR/>Wait, that's not considered "history" anymore?<BR/><BR/>Hard to imagine anyone who is currently being indocterinated into Leftist ideology reaching back far enough to see how wrong their tutors are.<BR/><BR/>Linked.<BR/>A. Truman North<BR/>http://condig.blogspot.com<BR/>conservativedigest-at-yahoo-dot-comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166959808731308042006-12-24T03:30:00.000-08:002006-12-24T03:30:00.000-08:00ROBERT A: Thanks for the compliments! Usually if a...ROBERT A: Thanks for the compliments! Usually if a person takes care to present self as non-arrogant, more as a seeker of answers to questions, then we do address them kindly & supportively. But see the other side with compassion also: We get alot of people not only in here (on the blog) but in our daily lives who evidence arrogance - which they think smacks up against ours (their arrogance does, but our is not arrogance, its more like assertiveness.)<BR/><BR/>LOL Buford Pusser! No, um, Jesus is not quite like that, but He is Assertive, Bold (The Lion of Judah, King, Justice, etc.) AND He is also Compassionate Merciful Healer/Shepherd, and lots of things in between. Just wanted to clarify hes not polar opposites and either/or switches between them - Hes the ultimate Integralist, actually.<BR/><BR/>Hope that helps and best wishes to you in your studies. You are welcome to come back here anytime & participate. One other reader decided to go into Pupa / Cocoon stage and cogitate on the blog here w/less interaction, just so you are assured thats an option too.<BR/><BR/>Now that we know you a little better and where you are coming from it helps us see you more clearly & respond better also. Sometimes it can be rough going at first - we are in a Spiritual War, yes? Sometimes potential friends are not immediately recognized. But with Gods help we make it through. Just know you are welcome here anytime you're ready to come back. <BR/><BR/>- PsychoPrincess -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166887673872824642006-12-23T07:27:00.000-08:002006-12-23T07:27:00.000-08:00Thank you all. I need to take a break and digest a...Thank you all. I need to take a break and digest all this. As I might have already said, I'm better off spectating than participating just now. I want to say though that the tone of these final posts is great, and surprising, given the reception I thought I would receive.<BR/><BR/>It's amazing the way new thought flows when a defensive posture is dropped. I am sure this follows a universal metaphysical principle, and that this principle is in use by all great spiritual teachers. Hence the reason for great ones expressing compassion rather than ridicule when confronted with differing thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166845706625981092006-12-22T19:48:00.000-08:002006-12-22T19:48:00.000-08:00ROBERT A: Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I can ...ROBERT A: Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I can certainly empathize with you about Churchianity...We typically say, "Churchianity pukes out the Remnant" and "Churchianity Christians always shoot their woundeds."<BR/><BR/>Sorry you had a bad experience with Them, many Christians have come from a similar spiritually abusive experience, but have chosen to transform the pain of the rejection into a launching point to growth which challenges them to Seek deeply & Knock more persistently (as one is motivated to search for water in a desert) until they finally find a deep tangible organic experiential relationship w/Christ & hopefully connect with The (True) Body instead of being codependent on others first and putting Christ a distant 2nd/3rd.<BR/><BR/>We are here to know Christ, yes? We call ourselves Christ-ians since we claim to follow him, not Buddha? Then let us do so in earnest.<BR/><BR/>So we must study who He is - the Triune aspects of the Godhead invite us to deeper knowledge & potential relationship & experience of God.<BR/><BR/>If you'd like to check out a bit of interesting reading, there are many good books by Herbert Lockyear on the Names of God. Also: "The Names of Jesus" AB Simpson. These books take excerpts from Scripture & delineate each Theme/Topic so we can learn the various Aspects of God, Jesus and HolySpirit, to learn their Identities as they are Beings, and not things, so we can relate with Them based on Truth not lies and projections.<BR/><BR/>We need to also learn not to put so much "faith" in what WE feel and think, and instead learn to open to what Scripture study has to teach us and show us.<BR/><BR/>I will never in a million years understand people that have a problem with accepting/rejecting the idea of Absolute Truth/God. But thats just me.<BR/><BR/>I accept it, I study it, I receive it, I learn it, I grow & share in that security and knowledge of Absolute Truth that gives true Christians a rock-solid base from which to proceed forward to relate from the internal to the external world.<BR/><BR/>Hope these refs to Books help give you a starting place. They will at least round out your narrow view and fill in the spectrum colors between Wimpy Jesus and Hardass Jesus. Knowing Him better is our goal, yes?<BR/><BR/>Zondervan has a great series of books that are chockful of "Charts of..." various themes, such as Theologies, Heresies, Church History, Aspects of God, etc.<BR/><BR/>Theology is about the study of God, and you can usually learn more taking a few classes or reading a few Theological 101 Textbooks than you can attending a year stadium circus-church.<BR/><BR/>I encourage you to continue on your journey, to develop spiritual depth, and commit yourself to studying little by little all you can to know God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit in their fullness of Identity, Personality, and Functions, how they each relate with us, how you relate with them. <BR/><BR/>There is an incredible stability I get from the combination of my knowledge of Them and my relationship w/Them, and I am grateful for it, and wish you well in your spiritual development & journey. Keep reading here on Bob-s blog there is much to ponder & chew and consider - perspective and developing skill in right judgment does take time, but its an immensely worthy goal to grow into gaining. Perseverance & paring down, as we say.<BR/><BR/>Blessings to You!<BR/>- PsychoPrincess -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166830520354821672006-12-22T15:35:00.000-08:002006-12-22T15:35:00.000-08:00... and also what Susan Lee said - I really enjoy ...... and also what Susan Lee said - I really enjoy the company here, on top of the content - Thanks for letting us use your Philosophy Bar Bob!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166830383483092592006-12-22T15:33:00.000-08:002006-12-22T15:33:00.000-08:00I pretty much (No jewelry around my neck) second w...I pretty much (No jewelry around my neck) second what Ximeze said.<BR/><BR/>Susan Lee ;-)<BR/><BR/>Looks like about 175 posts Gagdad, does Cousin DuPree get a percentage of the cover charge per Head? (if so you might want to lock the garage... put up a sign that says "No Murphy Bed In Here"; you know how he gets with money in his pockets - no offense Cousin)<BR/><BR/>Leaving the office - MERRY (last working day before)CHRISTMAS!!!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166825709014716422006-12-22T14:15:00.000-08:002006-12-22T14:15:00.000-08:00Hi Susan LeeYour personality shows too. Welcome ab...Hi Susan Lee<BR/><BR/>Your personality shows too. <BR/><BR/>Welcome aboard.ximezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969724903834433405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166824216186027452006-12-22T13:50:00.000-08:002006-12-22T13:50:00.000-08:00robert a. said; "Write on, Bob. The rest of you ...robert a. said; "Write on, Bob. The rest of you Bobbleheads, I would strive to be like the second group Van describes and not so much like a lynch mob."<BR/><BR/>Well, I don't post much (ever?) but I get a WHOLE lot out of each original Post, modified by the comments. I think it's JUST like a bar party, and I am smiling the whole time I read the comments! Y'alls personalities come out so clearly, and I'm very fond of all of you. I guess it depends on how much fear you have when you enter here whether you see the bar party or a lynch mob?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166822717837929072006-12-22T13:25:00.000-08:002006-12-22T13:25:00.000-08:00Robert AI feel the need to clarify something: not ...Robert A<BR/><BR/>I feel the need to clarify something: not all regulars here are followers of Christ, or are primarily interested in Christian theology.<BR/><BR/>I, for one, read Bob for his grasp on the Logos & its Universal nature, how it shows up pretty much everywhere & throughout time.<BR/><BR/>At this point, in my life, I would call myself a Christian, perhaps for want of a "better" word. The various denominational squabbles just seem to point to something much bigger, behind all that, which is what I'm looking for.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, I'm not in the business of collecting scalps for Jesus, and thus concerned about how this group might sound. I am here for purely selfish reasons, for my own intellectual & spiritual benefit.<BR/><BR/>In my own case, the draw was uncontrollable, something that just would not go away, no matter how hard I tried to push back. It felt like a net being pulled in around me, ever tighter, kicking & screaming every inch of the way.<BR/><BR/>It certainly was not what I would have chosen & no "body" brought me to the Light thru their snag & thus, to "right dogma" of their particular creed.<BR/><BR/>It's the "That Behind All That" which is of interest to me. The capacity to resonate with the call comes from somewhere other than myself, prevenient grace, if you will.<BR/><BR/>I read the Bible for its putting forth of the Logos, for its wisdom targeting the human condition & for its ability to reframe ideas.<BR/><BR/>I wear a Cross around my neck, not to broadcast my status to believers, but as a constant reminder to myself, like a beeper set to go off at regular times.<BR/><BR/>My birth family never mention that Cross, except to say "it's very pretty" & have never asked me what it's all about. Likely, they've discussed it between themselves, but I don't know what they conclude. Maybe they think I'm nuts. Certainly, I would seem the least likely amongst the set to have gone this way. Go figure.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, just wanted to clarify.<BR/>And that trinket I wear IS very pretty.ximezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969724903834433405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166820037542090932006-12-22T12:40:00.000-08:002006-12-22T12:40:00.000-08:00P2:Thanks for the comments. Particularly the secon...P2:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the comments. Particularly the second one. Much more in keeping with an attitude of exchange rather than one-upsmanship, which does wonders for opening one up to new ideas.<BR/><BR/>My relationship with Christ has been tainted via Churchianity. Regarding Jesus, I have had to toss out all I learned in the first half of my life to move forward in the second half. Only in the last decade have I learned to let Jesus as Christ back in again without prejudice. You are right, I do not understand Jesus in the way you describe. I am not opposed to this HardAss Jesus...I just haven't heard those stories. Let me sit with these ideas, let me read more about Jesus as the Buford Pusser of Nazareth. <BR/><BR/>RiverC: Is this a timely way of saying, "Bless all those who abide, liberal or conservative"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166816684065095432006-12-22T11:44:00.000-08:002006-12-22T11:44:00.000-08:00ROBERTA: Jesus most certainly did "lose patience" ...ROBERTA: Jesus most certainly did "lose patience" with Peter:<BR/><BR/>"Get Thee behind me Satan! You are a stumbling block (barrier) to me. You do not have the things of God in mind but the things of men/satan."<BR/><BR/>Thats just one example, You can look up the rest yourself, there are many. If you make effort for careful biblical study, your limited flat views will grow also, and I think your experience of Him will as well.<BR/><BR/>It seems you do not take the pieces and integrate them into a coherent whole picture of Christ, so your vision of Christ is partial, at best, and not integral nor wholistic.<BR/><BR/>Theres no insult here, so dont read any into it.<BR/><BR/>~ P2 ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166815945295767162006-12-22T11:32:00.001-08:002006-12-22T11:32:00.001-08:00VAN: Will be reading on Your Blog today in a bit, ...VAN: Will be reading on Your Blog today in a bit, between bites and before my next session. Just going to get sumfink to eat and will be back to peruse. <BR/><BR/>LOVE WHAT YOU AND USS.BEN wrote about "not feeling integrated after your bean burritos!" ROFL!!<BR/><BR/>BTW, I'm going to Guido-Burrito! Maybe I should go to KFC? Subway? (The ones you mentioned in another post.) <BR/><BR/>Wait, OO OO I Know: After Princess eats Spicy Hot Pakistani Food - Ohhhh Yes! Then I FEEL "The Integration" happenin! You guys would love it too cuz you arent weenie-types. It really is kinda...um...Spiritual, among "other" things. :>)<BR/><BR/>Croikee! "Somewhere else" feels The Burn of what ISN'T integrated, too!<BR/><BR/>Princess Says: "Whatever isnt Integrated, must be Eliminated!"<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~<BR/><BR/>ROBERT A: Waaay off base, to see Jesus so one-sided. Lest you deceive yourself further into the modern "Wimpy Jesus" pop-paradigm usually believed in by Leftist Christians / Churchianity, here is a corrective for your own myopathy, straight from Jesus & Scripture: <BR/><BR/>Speaking to the Pharisees, the educated learned religious leaders & supposed-to-be-Believers-in-Meshiah of Jesus day...Jesus Called Them:<BR/>"Hypocrits! Brood of Vipers! Snakes! You Are The Rot Inside of the Grave. Unclean. An Adulterous Generation. Unfaithful. Harlots. Prostitutes. Satan. Tares. Demonically posessed. Ungrateful. Deaf. Blind. Dumb. Usurpers. UnKnowing (Stoopid). Not Wise. Counterfeits. Charlatans. Fakers. Devious. Clever. Speaking with the mouth of Satan. Evildoers. Schemers. Scammers. Wolves in Sheeps Clothing. Guilty. Evil. Full of Dead Mens Bones (as in mass graves of holocausts/war). Traitors. Murderers. Poisonous. Leprous. Diseased Spiritually. Rebellious. Sons of Satan, their Father..."<BR/><BR/>Need I go on to prove your "assertions" of "wimpy" Jesus as "tolerant and forgiving" is off base? <BR/><BR/>Jesus is also: A King, with Fire in His Eyes, and a Sword from His Mouth...Justice!<BR/><BR/>Did you "forget" to see all sides to Christ? I know it happens nowadays if one is not careful to think carefully. <BR/><BR/>We all need to SEE and KNOW Him more in 3-D or 4-D experiential relationship as wholistically as possible, instead of ones ego/pride's piecemeal and linear-limited perspectives, as ones self often assumes erroneously. 1/2 truths are still Lies. Satan even wraps his "nuggets o truth" with layers of Lies, and peddles them as "Truth."<BR/><BR/>Good thing I dont eat nuggets. :D<BR/><BR/>Jesus IS the King. He IS Justice. Wimpy Anemic Jesus is not the Jesus True Christianity serves & loves. I do not know this "Wimpy" Jesus you speak of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166815798958577962006-12-22T11:29:00.001-08:002006-12-22T11:29:00.001-08:00Well done Van, in the spirit of the second categor...Well done Van, in the spirit of the second category. (I'll do my best to watch the tipos.)<BR/><BR/>Everyone always cites Jesus and the temple as an example of the Wrath of Christ. But the record of Jesus' life as portrayed in the Bible shows that trait as the exception. <BR/><BR/>Personally I find his interaction with his disciples as most the revealing of his human temperament. How could twelve guys be so dumb? Look at Peter's behavior in the Garden. Time and again He gave these guys the opportunity to gather wisdom and insight, and time and again they concerned themselves with trivialities. But he never gave up on them (I'm not a bible scholar, but will go back and find references if I need to make that point) or lost patience outwardly. I want to believe that any "seeker" would have done better, would have asked better questions of Him. Yet somehow after his crucifixion, the message seemed to get through to these guys, and they were able to carry on His work. This aspect of the story provides proof of the "Holy Spirit" aspect of man-the change in them came - apparently - not through their intellect, but through some metaphysical shift in their understanding. Did they "earn" this, or did Jesus Will it upon them? Did they have to pass some test, or were they simply in the right place at the right time?<BR/><BR/>Do we need to go outside to settle this, or are you gonna quit being so stingy with that hip flask? I can't stomach Lite Beer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166812943202926972006-12-22T10:42:00.000-08:002006-12-22T10:42:00.000-08:00Robert A.,Just curious, Typo's or puns? "coctale p...Robert A.,<BR/>Just curious, Typo's or puns? "coctale party... sinarios"<BR/><BR/>The moneychangers in the temple does come to mind, but not important. Obviously everyone can choose where to stay, leave, or call DuPree for intervention.<BR/><BR/>Personally I'd just rather continue the conversation.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166812325140575632006-12-22T10:32:00.000-08:002006-12-22T10:32:00.000-08:00Sorry Van, Bobbleheads. I agree with most of what ...Sorry Van, Bobbleheads. I agree with most of what is said here (and the rest maybe I just don't understand yet), but as for your tidy description of this blog as a coctale party, Truth is that this blog doesn't fit either of those sinarios you described. The regulars on this site come across as an angry bunch of people, not some gathering of friends and aquaintances, not a "lively, sometimes raucous exchange". This from someone who has not contributed, for this very reason. That yoiu won't see this side of your group personality means you can't change it. Your harsh tone damages the foundation of everything you say. If we follow the example set forth here, Christ, as the ultimate enlightened one, must have had more reason than anyone on this site to be angry and intolerant with those less enlightned than he. Yet over and over His example is of tolerance and forgiveness. Look at his relationship with his disciples. "Come unto me as a child." Whenever someone comes in here as a child, he is slapped first for being a child. Whatever learning follows is a credit to the student, not you people as teachers. And lest you criticise me for my "opinion", the record is there for the reading. You all helped write it. <BR/><BR/>So please don't offer up someone else's venom as proof that they are imbalanced while justifying your own as somehow sanctified because you are "righting" some "dense" comment. <BR/><BR/>Write on, Bob. The rest of you Bobbleheads, I would strive to be like the second group Van describes and not so much like a lynch mob.<BR/><BR/>So have at it. Here's a criticism from someone who largely agrees with you, stated as directly as I can state it without being unneccessarily confrontational. I can already predict the tone and membership of the response. There's a problem no one here seems to be able to fix, no matter how smart you believe yourselves to be. One doesn't Think one's way to enlightenment. It's still a three-part being that reaches Heaven as an individual, not a mass ascension of nick-named buddies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166810207696685002006-12-22T09:56:00.000-08:002006-12-22T09:56:00.000-08:00Newbie said:"as this is one caustic, confrontation...Newbie said:"as this is one caustic, confrontational group of followers.<BR/>Which leads me to this conclusion: Conservative values have never justified anger in my own life. I am in the wrong crowd. Good Bye."<BR/><BR/>More Weeniedom<BR/> <BR/><BR/>See yaximezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969724903834433405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166809947764868842006-12-22T09:52:00.000-08:002006-12-22T09:52:00.000-08:00BOROMIR: Some LOTR Trivia:Q: What do you get when ...BOROMIR: Some LOTR Trivia:<BR/><BR/>Q: What do you get when you mix an Elf with a Troll?<BR/><BR/>A: A Dumbed-down Orc who is Spiritually retarded/disabled! Went down the wrong way on the Spiritual food chain.<BR/> <BR/>* * * * *<BR/><BR/>Q: What do you get when you cross an Elf with a Wizard?<BR/><BR/>A: Masters, such as Gandalf the White and Elrond of Rivendell (3,000 yrs old!) Wise Warriors who went Right way up the Spiritual food chain.<BR/><BR/>Gee, even Tolkien "got" what we are saying and put the same concepts into his books & characters. He was a Master Philologist & studied human character along with Languages & the power of myth, legends & stories to teach people on Spiritual matters.<BR/><BR/>Any questions on Why not to mix certain things together?<BR/><BR/>BOROMIR said:..."Some truth is Absolute. Some truth is belief."<BR/><BR/>Yes, thats what we've been saying, some Truth is Absolute, some truth is relative ("beliefs that change" are relativistic) - Both Truth & truth are encompassed in Absolute Truth View - G-BOBs Integralism. More than "just a political stance" its a Spiritual Evolutionary Paradigm.<BR/><BR/>BOROMIR Said: "...Do those who consistently pounce on opposing thoughts come here that way, or are these Dark Warriors summoned to life by the single drumbeat of the present environment?"<BR/><BR/>I can only speak for myself and as a Princess of the Peeps I belong to and Represent: Neither choice you provide is correct. Most of us are "Summoned to Life" OUT OF the darkness of Self by God/Christ/HolySpirit. We are summoned to Life unto, by, for & with Christ.<BR/><BR/>In this New Life, thru Spiritually wholistic organic relationship w/Him, we Study, Grow, come to Know Spiritual Absolute Truths which trump everymans relativistic truth, Truths That Transform our self into Spirit - Truths that Transform our Spirits into Transcendence.<BR/><BR/>We are the Transcendent Integration of Spirit and Life. Again, as I said on yesterdays blog: We are a Nexxus, a CruxPoint. To call us Right, or Left or even Liberalism (by todays defs) are wrong, for we are none of them. Neither are we Theonomists (the combo of Spiritual/political and economic).<BR/><BR/>We transcend them and are something else we call "Integralism."<BR/><BR/>Spiritual Integralism: "We live and breathe this stuff!" (borrowed from Advance Copier commercial).<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166809774612646962006-12-22T09:49:00.000-08:002006-12-22T09:49:00.000-08:00BOROMIR: Some LOTR Trivia:Q: What do you get when ...BOROMIR: Some LOTR Trivia:<BR/><BR/>Q: What do you get when you mix an Elf with a Troll?<BR/><BR/>A: A Dumbed-down Orc who is Spiritually retarded/disabled! Went down the wrong way on the Spiritual food chain.<BR/> <BR/>* * * * *<BR/><BR/>Q: What do you get when you cross an Elf with a Wizard?<BR/><BR/>A: Masters, such as Gandalf the White and Elrond of Rivendell (3,000 yrs old!) Wise Warriors who went Right way up the Spiritual food chain.<BR/><BR/>Gee, even Tolkien "got" what we are saying and put the same concepts into his books & characters. He was a Master Philologist & studied human character along with Languages & the power of myth, legends & stories to teach people on Spiritual matters.<BR/><BR/>Any questions on Why not to mix certain things together?<BR/><BR/>BOROMIR said:..."Some truth is Absolute. Some truth is belief."<BR/><BR/>Yes, thats what we've been saying, some Truth is Absolute, some truth is relative ("beliefs that change" are relativistic) - Both Truth & truth are encompassed in Absolute Truth View - G-BOBs Integralism. More than "just a political stance" its a Spiritual Evolutionary Paradigm.<BR/><BR/>BOROMIR Said: "...Do those who consistently pounce on opposing thoughts come here that way, or are these Dark Warriors summoned to life by the single drumbeat of the present environment?"<BR/><BR/>I can only speak for myself and as a Princess of the Peeps I belong to and Represent: Neither choice you provide is correct. Most of us are "Summoned to Life" OUT OF the darkness of Self by God/Christ/HolySpirit. We are summoned to Life unto, by, for & with Christ. In this New Life, thru Spiritually wholistic organic relationship w/Him, we Study, Grow, come to Know Spiritual Absolute Truths which trump everymans relativistic truth, Truths that Transform our self into Spirit - Truths that Transform our spirits into Transcendence.<BR/><BR/>The Transcendent Integration of Spirit and Life. Again, as I said on yesterdays blog: We are a Nexxus, a CruxPoint. To call us Right, or Left or even Liberal (by todays defs) are wrong, for we are none of them. We transcend them and are something else, we call "Integralism."<BR/><BR/>Spiritual Integralism: "We live and breathe this stuff!" (borrowed from Advance Copier commercial).<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166808730267068972006-12-22T09:32:00.000-08:002006-12-22T09:32:00.000-08:00dicentra63 said... "It is for us decipher between ...dicentra63 said... <BR/>"It is for us decipher between the Truth and Lie, Good and Evil, Beauty and Ugliness....You don't "decide" what is a chair or what is a throw rug, you discern it."<BR/><BR/>Very good.<BR/><BR/>Somewhere Gagdad used the alternate image of not a visual comparison, but an auditory one.<BR/>As you listen to a AM radio, you get a tiny impression of the basic melody, seems to be constant single tones, etc, kinda catchy.<BR/><BR/>Later you hear it playing somewhere in the distance, this time on a good sound system. As you walk nearer the tune gains more definition - where you thought you'd heard a simple tone, you discover it is made of chords. Closer still, you discover harmonies. Still closer you notice flutes in the background, kettle drums, oboe's, a Rickenbacher bass riff (#What's that doing there!#), etc.<BR/><BR/>You like the tune so much you go see the concert live, and discover the rich sounds you'd heard on the stereo were pale in comparison to hearing it live. You become a musician and discover subtleties of technique that a listener would never be aware of, etc, etc, etc.<BR/><BR/>The original tune didn't change one whit from what was heard on Aristotle's AM Radio, but our ability to discern its meaning and depth does as we come nearer to the source.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166806254594781982006-12-22T08:50:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:50:00.000-08:00"It is for us to decide what is truth, what is goo...<I>"It is for us to decide what is truth, what is goodness, what is beautiful."<BR/><BR/>No. It is not. <BR/><BR/>It is for us decipher between the Truth and Lie, Good and Evil, Beauty and Ugliness.</I><BR/><BR/>I would replace the word "decipher" with "discern." It's not a riddle, it's a glass through which we see darkly. Apply some light, and you can begin to see what is what, the way you can tell what's in a room after you light a candle, whereas before you were stumbling around in the dark, trying to figure out what it was you were stumbling into.<BR/><BR/>You don't "decide" what is a chair or what is a throw rug, you discern it.dicentra63https://www.blogger.com/profile/18265008441951516140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166806041947299382006-12-22T08:47:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:47:00.000-08:00Juliec said..."...I'd like to add, though, that at...Juliec said..."...I'd like to add, though, that at this gathering, occasionally there are crashers who wander in, hurl around a bunch of insults, eat all of the cocktail shrimp and (horror of horrors) disrespect Yottle! "<BR/><BR/>That's when Cousin DuPree and Hoarhey lift them up under the armpits, take 'em upstairs and heave them off the deck.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166804822582579602006-12-22T08:27:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:27:00.000-08:00Bob...uh, Bob. I think someone's about to hijack ...Bob...uh, Bob. I think someone's about to hijack your posse. Bob?NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166804257789066492006-12-22T08:17:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:17:00.000-08:00You missed the most important person here, ME!You missed the most important person here, ME!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166804019404812292006-12-22T08:13:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:13:00.000-08:00Sounds like a blast, Van (I guess that's why I'm s...Sounds like a blast, Van (I guess that's why I'm still hanging around ;-)<BR/><BR/>I'd like to add, though, that at this gathering, occasionally there are crashers who wander in, hurl around a bunch of insults, eat all of the cocktail shrimp and (horror of horrors) disrespect Yottle! Of course we're going to be a little touchy when that happens! Yet still, often, I see members of the group invite said crashers to get hold of themselves so that a good time might be had by them, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166803875635590082006-12-22T08:11:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:11:00.000-08:00RIVER-C: Hail Bro! So you found my page, heheheh? ...RIVER-C: Hail Bro! So you found my page, heheheh? Its soooo Under Construction, but thanks for your compliments! It feels like I'm cyber preggers - Hey can I eat for two now? At least until zee Princess Blog is born...See what YOU Guys have created? <BR/><BR/>VAN: ROFL!! FLOGGER!! LOVE THAT!! Hilarious! OMG - high-5 your wife for me! Toooo funny. You and RIVER-C said alot of GREAT stuff on Aristotle and the Objective / Subjective Truth relationships they integrate.<BR/><BR/>Now about this "Flogger" thing: From a Shrinks perspective: Hmmmm...Whats THIS?? (Opens Vans desk drawer.) A WHIP I see hidden in your desk drawer under your computer? *Shocked* C'mon, Fess up VAN: You KNOW You like to Crack That Whip when you're flogging!<BR/><BR/>* * * * * *<BR/><BR/>Okay. Christening Time, Princess Style:<BR/><BR/>G-BOB = KRESKIN. GOD-FADDER. FATHER-GUIDO. UNCLE OVERALLS milking his Cow. THE ORACLE of OC. DR WORDSWORTH.<BR/><BR/>VAN THE MAN = DA WHIP. WEBSTER. FLOGGER. BRAINIAC - Cuz he has a portable library lurking in his brain and hes like a bottomless pit of Knowledge. JAVA-JUNKIE for short, cuz he needs Caffeine!<BR/><BR/>WILL = DR BOEHME. SAINT WILLIAM. DR JONES - He writes of Spiritual / Metaphysical angles & fits all together well. Hes a MetaPhysician & Christian Shaman. But dont call him Billy. PROPHET OF HIS SERENE HIGHNESS YOTTLE.<BR/><BR/>COUSIN DUPREE = AGENT SMITH? - Theres much more to CD than meets the Blog. He strikes me as SECRETARY of STATE type of man. BIG CHEESE for short. GRANDE POOBAH OF THE RACOON LODGE.<BR/><BR/>NOMO = GMAN-JR. JUNIOR for short. MR MIYAGI - cuz hes a man of few words. Think: "Wax on, Wax off. Nuff said." NUFF-SAID-NOMO.<BR/><BR/>USS BEN = BROTHER GILLIGAN. BOAT BOYEEE. FOO-FIGHTER (That pic of the foot to the jaw, priceless). WHITEY short for dress whites.<BR/><BR/>DICENTRA = LADY BOLOKs - Thats Kolob spelled backwards for the BOM in You. Shortened to LADY DaBOMb.<BR/><BR/>JOAN OF ARRGGHH!! = MYSTERESS. FIRST LADY of OC / LADY RACOON (but dont call her Lady Fuzzybutt.) <BR/><BR/>COSANOSTRADAMUS = PHANTOM PROPHET - with a name like that, hes really a Black Ops undercover Ninja/MafiaDon who can predict someones Future while he carves em up...in French AND in Italian, mind you! HITMAN of OC. <BR/><BR/>RIVER-COCYTUS: MAESTRO (for his love of Bach.) SAINT ANGELIS (for Angelis Laudentes of Music & Art.) DEFENDER OF MUSLIM WOMEN (He makes the Arab Wiminz do their holler when he walks by.) SIR LIONHEART, a Knight after King Richard.<BR/><BR/>UNCLE CRAYFISH = CRAWDADDIO. CRABBY for short or when hes miffed.<BR/><BR/>DILYS = LADY NIMBLEFINGERS - Shes always counting on them & her toes! LADY_SLIPPER due to her Flowers pic!<BR/><BR/>XIMEZE = LADY DALRYMPLE - due to her love for TD. "DROP_DEAD_FRED!" as she told em to "Stuff his round table."<BR/><BR/>MIKEZ = ZEE-MAN - hes the GO-TO-GUY as hes Got the Goodz & all kindz of info. More nics for him to come.<BR/><BR/>LUKEBLOGWALKER: LUKE_BIBLE_SCHOLAR - for his love of Greek/Hebrew/Bibles. GEEK-BOYEE (after his love of Greek & Gadgets.) SNOREDY-BOREDY-BOY - cuz he Snores alot when hes Bored on the Blog.<BR/><BR/>JULIEC = JULIA-CHILDS & STEYNER_GIRL for her memorable Ice Cream & Dog Poop quote from Mark Steyn. JULES for short.<BR/><BR/>Okay, if I Missed Anyone, Nevah Feah: Princess WILL get You Laterz!! I'll be Bahk!<BR/><BR/>BTW: WHO is Petey? (Is that J.Peden?) Also GRANDE POOBAH of the Racoon Lodge.<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com