tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post116663369352312263..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Catch a Falling Man... Before it's Too LateGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166804494961931472006-12-22T08:21:00.000-08:002006-12-22T08:21:00.000-08:00Integralist - If by "global civilization" you mean...Integralist - If by "global civilization" you mean a one-world government, good God, I hope not. It seems that there are some on the far, far left that would like nothing better, which kind of explains the popularity of the U.N. and Open Borders among those folks. If you mean a global economy, then I would tend to agree, and think that to be a most desirable thing. A global, free-market economy, despite the caterwaulings of the anti-globabization mob, is the best weapon we have against both the jihadists and the one-worlders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166734436552386992006-12-21T12:53:00.000-08:002006-12-21T12:53:00.000-08:00Hoarhey, yes, Cruttenden has been on Art Bell once...Hoarhey, yes, Cruttenden has been on Art Bell once or twice.<BR/><BR/>Will, nice post about Steiner etc. I tend to agree with Steiner, but also with your assertion that modern civ. tends to "flatland," thereby obscuring even disallowing depth and what Godwin calls "verticality."<BR/><BR/>But I do think we are undergoing our "universal trauma" right now--the birth pains into a global civilization. Vertical development may be a necessity for us to survive into the 22nd century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166722430062612962006-12-21T09:33:00.000-08:002006-12-21T09:33:00.000-08:00In my opinion the human race as a whole is more or...In my opinion the human race as a whole is more or less in it's teenage years. <BR/><BR/>We have collectively entered the annoying but for some reason natural/common know it all phase of our youth. This stage, which we all experience to varying degrees, is obviously annoying and/or comical to those around us, but for whatever reason God considers it a neccessary stage for us individually and collectively.<BR/><BR/>Now obviously individually some of us emerge from our teenage years with an unhealthy number of hang ups, which in many cases can be attributed to poor parenting by poorly developed adults. <BR/><BR/>My point of view is that collectively God is our parent and I am optomistic about his ability to parent us into healthy adults no matter how cocky and ungrateful our our current collective disposition appears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166714089504187402006-12-21T07:14:00.000-08:002006-12-21T07:14:00.000-08:00Inte said:"To some degree it is a directional thin...Inte said:<BR/>"To some degree it is a directional thing: the former looks back for God, the latter looks forward."<BR/><BR/>How very linear of you.<BR/><BR/>Going on: "Or is there, again, a more embracing integral view?"<BR/><BR/>Seems you're looking to "embrace" a "line" function.<BR/><BR/>Ummm... can't you see you've set up a real problem for youself?ximezehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09969724903834433405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166711091243697692006-12-21T06:24:00.000-08:002006-12-21T06:24:00.000-08:00Integralist,Interesting idea about the orbits - pr...Integralist,<BR/><BR/>Interesting idea about the orbits - probably a bit of a stretch, but interesting.<BR/><BR/>A quick downing the coffee before dashing out thought:<BR/><BR/>If true, apart from the scientific knowledge, would it have any actual value or impact above the level of another fact among lists of facts?<BR/><BR/>But as with myth, the imagery conveys a value of it's own - but not entirely of it's own, it can't attain to it's coherent imagery apart from the facts, and the facts have no value of themselves, without their support for the imagery.<BR/><BR/>There's the archetypal contrast forever swirling about eachother, as with the Yin-Yang, and it's only when that the two halves of the swirl are seen to be contained by and within a One, that their full value can be grasped.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166710512565267582006-12-21T06:15:00.000-08:002006-12-21T06:15:00.000-08:00uss ben said... "I integrated a very large beef an...uss ben said... "I integrated a very large beef and bean burrito, with hot sauce, cheese, and guacamole.<BR/><BR/>However, I don't feel enlightened. "<BR/><BR/>LOL LOL LOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOL ROFLOLVan Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166710293655760732006-12-21T06:11:00.000-08:002006-12-21T06:11:00.000-08:00annonymous of comment 12/20/2006 09:09:48 PM ah......annonymous of comment 12/20/2006 09:09:48 PM <BR/><BR/>ah... yes.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166710138546106272006-12-21T06:08:00.000-08:002006-12-21T06:08:00.000-08:00PsychoPrincess said... Radiance Reborn There you ...PsychoPrincess said... <BR/><*> Radiance Reborn <*><BR/><BR/>There you go - short and Very sweet.<BR/><BR/>(didn't your fingers almost crash from zooming down from sonic speed to standstill so abruptly?)<BR/><BR/>;-)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166709866457219672006-12-21T06:04:00.000-08:002006-12-21T06:04:00.000-08:00cosanostradamus said... "There is far more Truth i...cosanostradamus said... "There is far more Truth in archetypical myth (e.g the Genesis record, Virgin Birth, The Upanishads, or LOTR) than in all our scientific libraries. All done with far fewer words, as well.<BR/><BR/>And by myth, I don't mean lie; I mean parable or an abstract necessary to enable the mind's I to leap through the dim glass, however momentary."<BR/><BR/>You got it. I've got the first 2 of probably 4 posts up on my site relating to this idea, and the relation of thought to word... #3 coming soon...Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166709438178181102006-12-21T05:57:00.000-08:002006-12-21T05:57:00.000-08:00Hoarhey said ... "I was making a transition from a...Hoarhey said ... "I was making a transition from an uncontained decadent party life to a more spiritualy grounded and contained life..." and then notes that with a slip up "... was that there was a definite disconnect from something that I wasn't even aware I had a connection to. "<BR/><BR/>I remember that time well as well.<BR/><BR/>And regarding the containers, I recall those days and think of the search for ... search maybe too deliberate a word... wandering through the variety of various ... um... inputs, be they liquid, or literary, spiritual, thrilling (and) or curvaceous, I had the decided mindset that there were many worthwhile 'goods and truths' in the world and no reason to hold one up over another.<BR/><BR/>It wasn't until I allowed the idea of a One being more worthwhile than the many (enter future wife), not a commitment, no-sir-ree-bob, just the idea of one maybe being elevated above the rest... and soon the many were just that - it was a rather awkward moment that the realization dawned on me, but this being a respectable joint, I won't go into that - but with the idea of a vertical scale of value being introduced, and of one 'container' at the top of all scale, those that didn't rise above the horizontal plane just became worthless.<BR/><BR/>I seems as if with the idea of not just a container, but of One Container being above the Rest, that the scattered interests that had all been of equal and distractingly enjoyable value, suddenly were shown to be but cheap knockoff's in the illuminating light of the One above the rest, and it becomes the container for all.<BR/><BR/>What had seemed to be an unnecessary restriction, is suddenly seen as being not a restriction, but a consolidating, a strengthening, the One value, a focal point from which the many are merely reflections of.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166707375691190492006-12-21T05:22:00.000-08:002006-12-21T05:22:00.000-08:00Joan of argghh!!! said... "That officially makes t...Joan of argghh!!! said... "That officially makes them a CaraVan of Magi, following one bright Star!"<BR/><BR/>;-)<BR/><BR/>I think your poor offering is a wealthy one.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166705537299478222006-12-21T04:52:00.000-08:002006-12-21T04:52:00.000-08:00I integrated a very large beef and bean burrito, w...I integrated a very large beef and bean burrito, with hot sauce, cheese, and guacamole.<BR/><BR/>However, I don't feel enlightened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166703021258064072006-12-21T04:10:00.000-08:002006-12-21T04:10:00.000-08:00Luke,No. No soy de Argentina. Naci aqui en los est...Luke,<BR/><BR/>No. No soy de Argentina. Naci aqui en los estados unidos, pero vivia en el d.f. de Mexico.<BR/><BR/>Otra cosita?<BR/>:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166691310303843752006-12-21T00:55:00.000-08:002006-12-21T00:55:00.000-08:00integ,Wasn't Walter Cruttenden on Art Bell? ;)integ,<BR/><BR/>Wasn't Walter Cruttenden on Art Bell? ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166684152134662882006-12-20T22:55:00.000-08:002006-12-20T22:55:00.000-08:00Joan, I am curious, are you from Arrgghhentina?-Lu...Joan, I am curious, are you from Arrgghhentina?<BR/><BR/>-LukeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166684002143369882006-12-20T22:53:00.000-08:002006-12-20T22:53:00.000-08:00For some Sirius and intersting reading, Robert K.G...For some Sirius and intersting reading, Robert K.G. Temple's "The Sirius Mystery".<BR/><BR/>Also "The Glory of the Stars" by E. Raymond Capt, "The Gospel in the Stars" by Joseph Seiss, and "Witness of the Stars" by E. W. Bullinger<BR/><BR/>Or David Davidson's "The Great Pyramid, its Divine Dimensions" -which deserves a bit of discussion, and a few dozen other books -but it is late.<BR/><BR/>Integrate that pally!<BR/><BR/>-LukeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166682078354106522006-12-20T22:21:00.000-08:002006-12-20T22:21:00.000-08:00Nice post, Monsieur Godwin. And I applaud you for ...Nice post, Monsieur Godwin. And I applaud you for quoting William Irwin Thompson, one of my very favorite writer-philosopher-poets--perhaps one of the most unsung great thinkers of the last thirty years (IMO, at least).<BR/><BR/>What arises for me from your post is the clash of two archetypal views with regards to human culture and spiritual awareness: the Traditional or "Romantic" view espoused by Schuon, Guenon, et al; and the progressivist/evolutionary view as espoused by Aurobindo, Steiner, Wilber, et al. To some degree it is a directional thing: the former looks back for God, the latter looks forward.<BR/><BR/>But are either fully true? Or is there, again, a more embracing integral view? (I would even say that the big integral name, Ken Wilber, veers too much towards the latter, labeling the former "retro-romantic" and "regressive").<BR/><BR/>Walter Cruttenden's book <I>The Lost Star of Myth and Time</I> outlines an interesting possible synthesis. He believes, after Sri Yukteswar, that our sun is part of binary partnership with another star, and that what we know as the precession of the equinoxes is not the Earth's wobble, as is accepted, but the orbit our sun shares with this star (possibly Sirius). During this 24,000-year period the Earth goes through a spiritual cycle equating with the Indian yugas. But it is cyclical with two parts to the Great Year of 24,000 years: a 12,000 year descent and a 12,000 year ascent. According to Cruttenden via Yukteswar, we are in the early part of the ascending cycle--which began in the depths of the Dark Ages, 1400 years ago.<BR/><BR/>Whether or not Cruttenden's theory is at all scientifically viable, it offers an interesting solution to the "Fall of Man" vs. "Evolution of Man" debate. According to Cruttenden we do both; just as in the daily cycle it gets darker as we "descend into night" and gets lighter as we "ascend into day."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166678256300366192006-12-20T21:17:00.000-08:002006-12-20T21:17:00.000-08:00There's nothing finer...Then the angel showed me t...There's nothing finer...<BR/><BR/>Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb down the middle of the great street of the city. On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. No longer will there be any curse. The throne of God and of the Lamb will be in the city, and his servants will serve him. They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever. (Rev 22:1-5 TNIV)<BR/><BR/>Amen.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166677788056408682006-12-20T21:09:00.000-08:002006-12-20T21:09:00.000-08:00Beyond language, The Word. Beyond time, Eternal ...Beyond language, The Word. Beyond time, Eternal Light. <BR/>Beyond forms, Infinite Form.<BR/>Beyond humanity, Eternal Man. <BR/><BR/>Created as a Testament to Eternal Truth, I chose to live the primordial lie.<BR/><BR/>In Your Goodness You created me. But how could I know such Unbounded Love? <BR/><BR/>Your Wholeness was too much to bear. So I hid in the Abyss. <BR/><BR/>A fractured shell of the Man You created. <BR/><BR/>Alone in the Void, I made my own world. Blacker than the abyss from which it was built. An abominable mockery of Your perfect Creation.<BR/><BR/>Reenacting my Fall for all of time. Through all of history. Every instant of life. <BR/><BR/>Every day. Every breath.<BR/><BR/>The same patterns. The same symbols. An endless loop of untethered consciousness. <BR/><BR/>But You did not forsake me. <BR/><BR/>You entered the dim world of my creation and infused it with Your Light.<BR/><BR/>Allowing Goodness, Truth and Beauty to flourish in a place that had only known darkness.<BR/><BR/>I humble myself before you, Living God. Who, in Your compassionion, has returned to me my Spirit. Great is your faith in me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166670409615894482006-12-20T19:06:00.000-08:002006-12-20T19:06:00.000-08:00POWERFUL thoughts and images here today.Can't Than...POWERFUL thoughts and images here today.<BR/><BR/>Can't Thank You All Enuf for Being Diamonds in My Sky.<BR/><BR/>The Spirit-Light You Share is... Exquisite. Profound. Touches me, Moves me often to Tears. Pierces my Soul with Sorrow and Joy. Reality and Hope are here, Eternal yet Present. The Spirit is Beyond, yet The Spirit is Right Here...Within Your Words, Alive in Your Souls.<BR/><BR/>You are A Nexxus - The Cruxpoint of Heaven & Earth Alive in Your Spirit & Soul. You..Are..Beautiful Beyond Belief!<BR/><BR/>Heheheh, Beauty must be what finally "does it" to get the Princess to type less, renders her to Grateful-Filled Tears & Silly Sweet Giggles, her face in a towel, fingers finally away from the keyboard. :D<BR/><BR/>Striking...the LACK of DEPTH of FELLOWSHIP at any of the Six Flags Over Jeezuz Professional Circuses.<BR/><BR/>"THE BLOG IN THE WILDERNESS"<BR/><BR/>A CyberHouse to Call Home<BR/>for the Previously Homeless.<BR/><BR/>A Hospital of Healing and Hope<BR/>for the Wounded, Weary & Hopeless.<BR/><BR/>A Beacon Shining for Lost Ships at Sea,<BR/>Guiding Them Back to Harbor, Safely.<BR/><BR/>A Wellspring of Water in a Wilderness Dry, Quenching Ones Thirst for Truth Free From Lies.<BR/><BR/>A WatchFire Burning Thru the Night <BR/>Warning When the Enemy draws within Sight.<BR/><BR/>A Fellowship Blazing with Spirit & Light, Helping Blind Men See with New Spirit & Sight.<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166665306941479832006-12-20T17:41:00.000-08:002006-12-20T17:41:00.000-08:00Radiance Reborn "A Star on Her Finger, a Gleam in...<*> Radiance Reborn <*><BR/><BR/>"A Star on Her Finger, a Gleam in Her Eye, a Passion in Her Heart, a Light in Her Mind. A Fire in Her Spirit, a Joy in Her Soul...Diamonds, A Reminder of Radiance, Reborn."<BR/><BR/>"Tonight, after Shopping for Presents (as Princess' will!), walking outside in quiet and still, to clear my head of Shoppers-Frazzle, leaving behind Christmas Lights and the Holiday Electronica razzle dazzle...<BR/><BR/>Meditating on G-BOBs Blog today, my eyes are drawn upward, inward, away from the twinkling baubles, to my Companion within, to Listen to His Voice, to See thru His Eyes, to Know His Thoughts, and Reflect with Him...<BR/><BR/>Together We walked and talked and shared, Thru His Eyes I beheld Diamonds...Brilliancy set against the Black Velvet Night; Sanity, Clarity, True Beauty and Light, are the Diamonds Who Shine Here in the OneCosmos Sky... <BR/><BR/>Once They were Coal, yet under His Pressure, thru Spirit Formation, They are Chiseled, Molded, Refined and Reformed...Each Shines with His Light of Transformation...Born to Be Diamonds...A Reminder of Radiance, Reborn."<BR/><BR/>~ PsychoPrincess ~<BR/>"Diamonds ARE A Girls Best Friend"<BR/><BR/><+> MERRY CHRISTMAS TO G-BOB & ALL YOOZ BOBBLEHEADS & NEW FREINZ at ONE COSMOS <+>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166654827465302212006-12-20T14:47:00.000-08:002006-12-20T14:47:00.000-08:00river -I think I have that Ackerman disc at home, ...river -<BR/><BR/>I think I have that Ackerman disc at home, gotta find it later...<BR/><BR/>Here's another great musical primer for budding songwriters or anyone interested in how songs are crafted - <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Tunesmith-Inside-Songwriting-Jimmy-Webb/dp/0786884886/sr=1-1/qid=1166654203/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4810694-1280613?ie=UTF8&s=books" REL="nofollow">Tunesmith</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166654186555550312006-12-20T14:36:00.000-08:002006-12-20T14:36:00.000-08:00There is so much good stuff here today. My wee bra...There is so much good stuff here today. My wee brain is freewheeling&reeling even more than usual...and although it's all been said many times before and far more eloquently, I just gotta say...<BR/><BR/>The Age of Myth was constructed around the importance of story, and brought people together knowing they played an integral part in it. <BR/><BR/>Our Age of Enlightenment is built around the god of knowledge and the accumulation of facts and measures in which humans have no role to play; we're just another fact, another measure, and all accidental.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps both are squinting hard to see the face of God. One sees the edge of a shadow pass by, or the slight flicker of a leaf as a raindrop falls from miles above, and is filled with inexplicable joy; the other looks in a mirror and is aroused by an inviting Narcissus or is horrified by a strangely familiar death mask.<BR/><BR/>Fortunately, there is still a remnant of true mythologists (Verts) rubbing archetypical salt into the wounded flesh of the age (Hos). Some are healed and join the journey, others scream and hurl offal at the merry band of passing pilgrims who laugh and press on toward the Celestial City.<BR/><BR/>There is far more Truth in archetypical myth (e.g the Genesis record, Virgin Birth, The Upanishads, or LOTR) than in all our scientific libraries. All done with far fewer words, as well.<BR/><BR/>And by myth, I don't mean lie; I mean parable or an abstract necessary to enable the mind's I to leap through the dim glass, however momentary.<BR/><BR/>Of course I don't want to give up my forced heat and air conditioning, 4-wheel drive jeep, or whizbang PC either - all the direct result of scientific endeavor and for which I am grateful - but I do not want to be distracted by them enough to forget that it's the Story that really matters. Is that possible in our culture? I really don't know, I ask myself that almost every day and most of the time I don't like the answer. Hey - it's a rerun of House MD - let's watch!<BR/><BR/>The magi, the star, the Christ child, the crucifixion, the resurrection - these are powerful Stories, true beyond all the explanations invented to prove or disprove them. They were and are life and culture and civilization and world changing in their impact. And utter heresy to trolls.<BR/><BR/>So as long as the salty ones are still around, I have plenty of hope. Darkest before dawn and all that, although I have heard it said that it's always darkest just before it goes pitch black (courtesy of despair.com). Either way it's ok, it's part of the Story and we've been written into it. <BR/><BR/>Ok, it's Christmas week, let's start the caroling...here's the first one, I'll start:<BR/><BR/>Joy to the World<BR/>The Lord Is Come<BR/>Let Earth Receive Her King......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166653114169108292006-12-20T14:18:00.000-08:002006-12-20T14:18:00.000-08:00cousin dupree -- don't forget "and the Original Go...cousin dupree -- don't forget "and the Original Gospel Harmonettes".<BR/><BR/>Sweet.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1166652884527874012006-12-20T14:14:00.000-08:002006-12-20T14:14:00.000-08:00lukebiblescholar (seems a more appropriate handle)...lukebiblescholar (seems a more appropriate handle) - You are one who might appreciate www.carm.org for a ton of great Christian apologetics info. I've been listening to and learning from a radio program hosted by the site guy lately (his name is Matthew J. Slick -- gotta love it).NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.com