tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post116118297754632921..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: The Soul Pathology of the Beast With Red CheeksGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-47914825489238930162015-09-07T22:51:05.170-07:002015-09-07T22:51:05.170-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45572966162378973452015-08-25T00:13:34.378-07:002015-08-25T00:13:34.378-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74394268268780228752015-08-10T00:35:10.409-07:002015-08-10T00:35:10.409-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41070606876317148202015-07-06T00:29:39.482-07:002015-07-06T00:29:39.482-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15612327984310366710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-91527788836141233912015-07-06T00:29:39.364-07:002015-07-06T00:29:39.364-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15612327984310366710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33311586560187535992015-07-06T00:29:39.123-07:002015-07-06T00:29:39.123-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15612327984310366710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65087769873786189102015-06-12T23:54:31.380-07:002015-06-12T23:54:31.380-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9525426053958254422015-05-23T00:00:30.377-07:002015-05-23T00:00:30.377-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30835879606412645342015-05-15T00:32:51.663-07:002015-05-15T00:32:51.663-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39568512518779850482015-05-10T00:07:45.310-07:002015-05-10T00:07:45.310-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78500730125772199532015-05-10T00:07:08.362-07:002015-05-10T00:07:08.362-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10419707179029332820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161517727914505922006-10-22T04:48:00.000-07:002006-10-22T04:48:00.000-07:00Volition... Our God given right that all deserve.Volition... Our God given right that all deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161390172143164302006-10-20T17:22:00.000-07:002006-10-20T17:22:00.000-07:00Cousin dupree, yeah I've got to admit you did have...Cousin dupree, yeah I've got to admit you did have the right call on that last one, good to hear you're full time now, 50, 60, 70 comments a post ain't no part time gig!<BR/><BR/>Hopefuly my new title doesn't preclude me from lending a hand here and there though - gotta keep fit ya know.<BR/><BR/>By the way Joarjey, I figured you'd jump to that conclusion, but if you're flat on your back with only your eyes pointing up, the spirals appear to be circles and each one ever smaller, but instead the reality is it's reaching higher and farther with each cycle. <BR/><BR/>Work on sitting up first, then standing then go for some baby steps... you can do it, just need some faith.<BR/><BR/>(Sorry cousin', couldn't resist)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161388876027275962006-10-20T17:01:00.000-07:002006-10-20T17:01:00.000-07:00Shep Barbash said... "'Nothing is good or bad but ...Shep Barbash said... "'Nothing is good or bad but that thinking makes it so.' But somehow calling the Bard a 'secular leftist' misses the mark. Great artists provide the strongest proof that 'securalism' need not devolve into standard-less, inquiry-less multi-culti pap. "<BR/><BR/> I posted about this a little while ago on my <A HREF="http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/2006/09/whos-there-hamlet-and-america.html" REL="nofollow">site.</A> The line is from Hamlet, but it is the first line of the Play that is, IMHO, the theme of the play "Who's there?", and gives more contextual meaning to the line you quoted. Hamlet returns home with all his fine Renaissance university learning, and has many fine ideas and plans, but no beliefs or convictions. How many times does Hamlet ponder and ponder, but never connect thought to deed?<BR/><BR/>Reason is a fine thing, when it is directed to encompass all of your knowledge, enabling you to bring all of your skills and abilities to bear on a problem - but when it's cut off from its roots in reality, making it impossible to connect the dots in your life, at that point your fine learning becomes an albatross around your neck.<BR/><BR/>How many times does Hamlet ponder and ponder, but never connect thought to deed?<BR/><BR/>Who's there? It is his self indulgent moroseness and indecisiveness that ultimately brings about the deaths of Polonius. The actions he does take are sporadic, without thought, and when he see's a body behind a tapestry and knowing nothing but his snap assumption, stabs it with his sword and killing poor befuddled Polonius.<BR/><BR/>I think that sums up the leftist acadanemic thought of today rather well, and proves even further that Shakespeare did write for the ages.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161387639847746842006-10-20T16:40:00.000-07:002006-10-20T16:40:00.000-07:00Alan said: "You don't get there by believing that ...Alan said: "You don't get there by believing that an atom is the parent the molecule is the parent of dna is the parent of the cell is the parent of the human and ultimately is the source of all meaning."<BR/><BR/>No, but then the people you're talking about don't believe your characterization, because you got it wrong.<BR/><BR/>The direct and emergent properties of atoms build molecules, some of which can build DNA, which can in certain instruction sets create cells and even humans. <BR/><BR/>Its not about "parents" - and all of these relationships were imagined, pursued, and tested by a scientific method that has proven itself far superior to religious belief in arriving at empirical truths.<BR/><BR/>The source of all meaning is, of course, a NON-empirical Truth and hence outside the realm of science. Its inclusion is inappropriate - either by materialists who wrongly make the leap, or by spiritual people who mischaracterize science.<BR/><BR/>The thing is, there are some non-empirical items that are damn important, especially at a cultural/societal level. Europe is indeed the poster child for the effects of a culture's loss of soul. Not pretty, and not good.<BR/><BR/>If science wishes to continue doing its thing, it needs to work within a culture that won't hand its practitioners (and those who have its required mindset) over to the first religious fanatic - leftist, or Islamist. That has failed before and speaking empirically, it didn't go very well thereafter.<BR/><BR/>So there are some spiritual values that science needs, but do not derive from science. Respect for those is not only appropriate, but necessary. When Dawkins says that religion has never accomplished anything positive, he's traducing that and in fact undermining everything he stands on.<BR/><BR/>On the other side, many say that science is not enough, and 'values' cut off from their religious roots are like cut flowers that must wither in time and perish. I agree.<BR/><BR/>I add that this is also true in the case of scientific values. There are important values that have science at their root, and the principles and obligations they uphold are things you value deeply: Truth. Beauty/Unity. Liberty.<BR/><BR/>What science can do is help us become more responsile stewards and participants in the One Cosmos, by understanding a little better each time how The Source of All Meaning has set things up to work. And even more important than the understanding, made us fitter pursuers of the requirements of this quest: inspiration, truth, higher unities... all of which have a tendency to become first flabby and then calcified under the orthodoxy of religion, which lacks an equivalent challenge/test system.<BR/><BR/>That deserves respect from seekers of truth via religion. Lack of respect for that challenge/test system tends to lead the religious to places that are not only foolish, but ultimately not very spiritual.<BR/><BR/>And so, the two need each other. Often not realizing this, nor understanding why. But if this is really about evolving consciousness in the One Cosmos, I'm willing to make both an empirical and a spiritual case that this is so.Joe Katzmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13917754785464014034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161386484544432662006-10-20T16:21:00.000-07:002006-10-20T16:21:00.000-07:00Bob, Wretchard over at Belmont Club (political blo...Bob, Wretchard over at Belmont Club (political blog) put in a trackback to this posting of yours.<BR/><BR/>His comment thread turned into a Creation-vs-Evolution fight from the first comment...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161369530816844392006-10-20T11:38:00.000-07:002006-10-20T11:38:00.000-07:00Actually, Hitler was not "healthier" than the peop...Actually, Hitler was not "healthier" than the people he murdered. <BR/><BR/>Hitler is dead.<BR/><BR/>The People of Israel live.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161369471067588662006-10-20T11:37:00.000-07:002006-10-20T11:37:00.000-07:00Just found your blog... amazing. Very good post. ...Just found your blog... amazing. Very good post. There are parts that I have trouble with (regarding the timing of man's appearance) but overall I am very impressed with your intellect and ability to communicate. I will definitely continue checking in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161364690353548522006-10-20T10:18:00.000-07:002006-10-20T10:18:00.000-07:00Van--Perhaps you haven't noticed, but you are no l...Van--<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you haven't noticed, but you are no longer responsible for troll abatement, so don't feel obligated to respond. I am now on board full time to deal with them, but only those who are not already self-refuting, as this one is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161361834656257642006-10-20T09:30:00.000-07:002006-10-20T09:30:00.000-07:00vanllucid:Here's to truthiness and bobservation!Ac...vanllucid:<BR/><BR/>Here's to truthiness and bobservation!<BR/><BR/>According to your last comment, your vertical view renders circles as spirals & your horizontal yields no clues toward vertical ascendance. I understand now we don't see eye to eye: I'm standing up when I refer to vertical.<BR/><BR/>I'm hazarding a guess that you, like all devoted Bobbleheads, may have some axis to grind. No wonder the world seems a threatening place. It will seem more tractable once you learn to stand, and eventually walk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161360662774645612006-10-20T09:11:00.000-07:002006-10-20T09:11:00.000-07:00Jerry, Bob or any of the "Bobbleheads" here are no...Jerry, Bob or any of the "Bobbleheads" here are not presuming to speak for God, we are seeking to understand God better through discussion, thought and getting to the truth, which you apparently are failing to comprehend. No one here is forcing you to believe one way or the other. If you can use the information discussed here good, if you can't, move on you're hanging out with the wrong crowd and wasting your time and ours. <BR/><BR/>And how condescending and pompous you sound in your exhortation for others with a different opinion than yours to have more humility. Further, we don't care if you are offended. God's opinion is the one that ultimately matters, and that's what we seek.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161358806932122012006-10-20T08:40:00.000-07:002006-10-20T08:40:00.000-07:00Jerry--Given your silly opinions, we are not surpr...Jerry--<BR/><BR/>Given your silly opinions, we are not surprised that you would have such a high opinion of wackademia, nor are we surprised that you are offended by the idea that some people have a better understanding of God than you do. We are never offended by the fact that some people have a better idea of God than we do. Indeed, we thank God for it every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161355660015863992006-10-20T07:47:00.000-07:002006-10-20T07:47:00.000-07:00Gagdad Bob,I'd say politics is a bit like a trial,...Gagdad Bob,<BR/>I'd say politics is a bit like a trial, there's always a side prosecuting and a side defending - this is the nature of politics. <BR/><BR/>Democrats would be failing in their duty if they weren't critical of the President, and there simply are very many reasons to criticize this Administration I can't possibly list them all here). <BR/><BR/>I also think that there is a conflict in criticizing a President during a war, and that you might by confusing this reticence with a lack of vision by the left.<BR/><BR/>About God, Darwin, and soul-less academics - first, if you think eternal social or esthetic truths aren't taught at the great academic institutions you simply know nothing of what is taught and why people devote themselves to scholarship. <BR/><BR/>I'd also think that you have little understanding of Darwin or modern evolutionary teaching, in this way you resemble the misguided politicos who coopted "Darwinism" a hundred years ago - your politics keeps poor people stupid, the Social Darwinists politics accomplished the same goal albeit more brutally.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I'm offended when people presume to speak for God or presume to have a better understanding of God - I'd prefer to see some reticence and humility when stepping into that territory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161345059250533512006-10-20T04:50:00.000-07:002006-10-20T04:50:00.000-07:00I agree with much of your post. However, I don’t t...I agree with much of your post. However, I don’t think that multiculturalists and other leftist “ists” deny all truth or the good. They are opposed to, for example, the subjugation and violence against women. It’s just that they worship the victimhood that comes from living in a backward or third-world society, to the extent of absolving the victims of all moral responsibility (i.e., they treaty them like infants). They also worship the nobility that comes from opposing our own, deeply corrupt society. A third-world man or nation can thus be criticized, theoretically, for wife-beating or clitoridectomy, but such criticism should be no more severe than that leveled for the excesses of a three-year-old, or of a WWII French resistance leader.DWPittellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02809996471988559374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1161318790961879582006-10-19T21:33:00.000-07:002006-10-19T21:33:00.000-07:00Hooray for joarjey another fine display of reasoni...Hooray for joarjey another fine display of reasoning.<BR/><BR/>To the horizontal point of view this van may appear to be going in circles, but from the vertical you can see it's actually spiraling upwards. <BR/><BR/>Probably just the sun sparkling off the mirrors makes it difficult for you to see.<BR/><BR/>Fetch.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.com