tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post115617427948327188..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Adultery is AdolescentryGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156243250696710182006-08-22T03:40:00.000-07:002006-08-22T03:40:00.000-07:00>>There are two false paths; one is the descending...>>There are two false paths; one is the descending path into hedonism, distraction, and other various soulless activities. But the other false path is the ascending one: going up the sacred mountain with the soul, but leaving the body behind<<<BR/>The former sounds like all the American Idol, look at me, dressed up pretty, I a star television TV pop tart-ette glitter. The latter the body murderer's of the anti religion Islamo-Aztecs. What a split in the world.Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436307862970155155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156233715017828272006-08-22T01:01:00.000-07:002006-08-22T01:01:00.000-07:00Bob-Interiority complex?Heh heh!How about complexi...Bob-<BR/>Interiority complex?<BR/>Heh heh!<BR/>How about complexity leery?<BR/>Or maybe complexity weary? :^)<BR/><BR/>Thanks for another super post, Bob.<BR/>Man, this body is hard to drag uphill!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156222659889106552006-08-21T21:57:00.000-07:002006-08-21T21:57:00.000-07:00anagrams for SIGMUND FREUD:FIRM GUNS, DUDEFUMED ID...anagrams for SIGMUND FREUD:<BR/><BR/>FIRM GUNS, DUDE<BR/><BR/>FUMED ID RUNGSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156220285256837652006-08-21T21:18:00.000-07:002006-08-21T21:18:00.000-07:00Either way, he's out. If you're going to drive do...Either way, he's out. If you're going to drive down the cosmic lane, you better bring stronger stuff than that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156220015914493022006-08-21T21:13:00.000-07:002006-08-21T21:13:00.000-07:00wait a sec . . . missed an A . . BE ENLIVENING OR ...wait a sec . . . missed an A . . <BR/><BR/>BE ENLIVENING OR A OUT! . . or . .<BR/><BR/>BE A EVENING LOIN TOUR!<BR/><BR/>Whichever works best for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156219644033979272006-08-21T21:07:00.000-07:002006-08-21T21:07:00.000-07:00anagram for BRAIN EVOLUTION GENE:BE ENLIVENING OR ...anagram for BRAIN EVOLUTION GENE:<BR/><BR/>BE ENLIVENING OR OUT!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156216968838854692006-08-21T20:22:00.000-07:002006-08-21T20:22:00.000-07:00Freud teaches us that sexuality is a disruptive, e...Freud teaches us that sexuality is a disruptive, ever-present force in our lives and that civilization exists to rein it in. <BR/><BR/>On an unconscious level, we all feel sexually deprived (hence the market's ingenious marketing of various kinds of pornography). Religion exists in part to give us a structure that allows us to deny (the cynic) or sublimate (the optimist) our sexual impulses.<BR/><BR/>We are all capable of "perverse" sexual behavior -- just as we are all, in part, narcissistic, and capable of total lack of concern for objects. The sexual must marry the spiritual because we must find ways of containing the drives that threaten us and those around us. <BR/><BR/>Freud taught us that we must learn to love, or fall ill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156200012169693552006-08-21T15:40:00.000-07:002006-08-21T15:40:00.000-07:00Dicentra - >>So why does sex affect one's spiritua...Dicentra - <BR/><BR/>>>So why does sex affect one's spirituality?<<<BR/><BR/>Well, you didn't really ask me, but I figure that you, as a Scorpio, need to know NOW. <BR/><BR/>Answer: Sex is the life-force manifested at the purely physical, one might even say, animal level. It's the same life-force that when sublimated rises to open the higher centers of the body, which gives way to creativity and spiritual awareness. Thus there is no one for whom the sex drive, the life-force, is not the greatest factor in determining whether or not one succeeds or fails in the purpose of this life - the realization of God within. <BR/><BR/>This isn't a prescription for celibacy for everyone -- though that can have its place. However, it does underscore the need to "spiritualize" sexuality so that it is a genuine channel for love, and not merely as an animal instinct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156199312396569402006-08-21T15:28:00.000-07:002006-08-21T15:28:00.000-07:00Dicentra -in a rush today, but you might look at P...Dicentra -<BR/>in a rush today, but you might look at Pope John Paul II's 'theology of the body". Boiled down to its essence, it means 'don't tell lies with your body'. Ie., if you're not married, don't help yourself to the marriage act as if you were. If you're married, then don't act as though you're married to someone else. and so on.<BR/><BR/>If God respected human sexuality enough to make it the matter of a sacrament, we shouldn't do less.<BR/><BR/>Sheldon Vanauken dealt with this as well in an excellent essay called 'The False Sanction of Eros'.<BR/>Well worth a look if you can find it.Salhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13201226644704622876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156189443274859002006-08-21T12:44:00.000-07:002006-08-21T12:44:00.000-07:00I would be interested in learning what you think o...I would be interested in learning what you think of this commandment on a more literal plane, i.e., what physical sexual sin actually means to one's spirituality.<BR/><BR/>Sexual activity has a profound effect on one's spirituality; were this not so, the major religions wouldn't emphasize self-restraint and propriety of context with regard to sexual activity.<BR/><BR/>So why does sex affect one's spirituality? What does promiscuity do to you? Why is marriage the ideal or even the only proper place for sexual expression?dicentra63https://www.blogger.com/profile/18265008441951516140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156189143612624162006-08-21T12:39:00.000-07:002006-08-21T12:39:00.000-07:00But what about the soul? From whence did it come?I...<I>But what about the soul? From whence did it come?</I><BR/><BR/>In my religious tradition, our souls were <I>engendered</I>, not created, by God, making us His literal offspring.<BR/><BR/>So in that context, asking why God did it is like asking why people reproduce: because that's the first law -- be fruitful and multiply. As on earth, so in heaven.dicentra63https://www.blogger.com/profile/18265008441951516140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156183553698767492006-08-21T11:05:00.000-07:002006-08-21T11:05:00.000-07:00Will--Concur. Looked at from an involutionary sta...Will--<BR/><BR/>Concur. Looked at from an involutionary standpoint, the animals are descended from man, specifically, the divine-human prototype, or Adam Kadmon.<BR/><BR/>Just another way of saying that there is both past-to-future Darwinian evolution and top-down, future-to-present evolution, or what Petey calls "darwhiggian evolution and supernatural election."Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156182578229682092006-08-21T10:49:00.000-07:002006-08-21T10:49:00.000-07:00Bob,Thanks for fleshing out and giving coherent ex...Bob,<BR/>Thanks for fleshing out and giving coherent explainations to my intuitions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1156182377598455732006-08-21T10:46:00.000-07:002006-08-21T10:46:00.000-07:00>>I do believe that the evolutionary task of our a...>>I do believe that the evolutionary task of our age is to bring these two extremes back together--to fully reconcile soul and body and achieve the Life Divine in a monkey body<<<BR/><BR/>Of oourse, the literal monkey body is physical only. The human body seems to have "higher centers" along with its physical aspect, which connotes "bodies", plural. The human body seems specifically designed to channel physical, instinctual energies "upward" into divine sublimation. <BR/><BR/>The human body may be originally derived from the ape body - lotsa similarities, obviously, down to DNA - but it would appear that a Higher Agency tinkered with, modified the original ape model. Had to be something "extra-evolutionary", not merely from the ground up but engineered from the Top.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com