tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post115237212603432653..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Healthy Child-Rearing and the Ideocide of the LeftGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152434940119737052006-07-09T01:49:00.000-07:002006-07-09T01:49:00.000-07:00Gumshoe:Society, as a whole, moves forward. It do...Gumshoe:<BR/><BR/>Society, as a whole, moves <I>forward</I>. It does not move <I>upward</I>. (Nor is it "twirling towards freedom," but that's another distinction entirely.)<BR/><BR/>The upward movement is, I feel, meant to be carried out by the individual on his own behalf. Attempts have been made, all of them unsuccessful, to shove society as a whole up a level; they keep trying to immanentize the eschaton, so to speak, on a scale that is <I>not possible in this world</I> or with this human race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152427912642964552006-07-08T23:51:00.000-07:002006-07-08T23:51:00.000-07:00Fabulous. This is why One Cosmos is the top of my...Fabulous. This is why One Cosmos is the top of my bookmarks...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152426233222984332006-07-08T23:23:00.000-07:002006-07-08T23:23:00.000-07:00"... what has Ted Kennedy specifically said or don..."... what has Ted Kennedy specifically said or done as a politician that you see as constituting "child abuse..." <BR/><BR/>Ever see/hear him do his (thankfully) inimitable "Itsy-Bitsy Spider" schtick?<BR/><BR/>OTOH... there is the typical (il)liberal long-standing backing of the NEA & all its "programmes".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152413376855374922006-07-08T19:49:00.000-07:002006-07-08T19:49:00.000-07:00"All children should be taught that the political ..."All children should be taught that the political and judicial system is basically fair and just..." Except that it might not be. In which case one would have to teach a moral code that took precedence over the law.<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking e.g. of the situation facing Southern blacks before the civil rights movement, when looking at a white woman the wrong way might get a black killed, for instance (Julius Lester, <I>Lovesong</I>). But a large proportion of blacks at this time had a strong moral code, quite different from the later concept of victimhood, by which they overcame such obstacles, Lester says.<BR/><BR/>Nowadays, leftist tendencies in the judicial system might also force someone with moral integrity to break the law in some cases, particularly in Europe, I imagine.Mr. Spoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10158551679946746825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152403666742088822006-07-08T17:07:00.000-07:002006-07-08T17:07:00.000-07:00and for all the disasters"modern society" spawned,...and for all the disasters<BR/>"modern society" spawned,<BR/>"post modern society" ahs barely gotten started.gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567181585153569751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152403480354355372006-07-08T17:04:00.000-07:002006-07-08T17:04:00.000-07:00i only read the initial paragraphsof the post,Bob,...i only read the initial paragraphs<BR/>of the post,Bob,but the idea/image that came to mind was that <BR/>"modern society" has a linear image of "progress" and for that matter a "scientistic" view of psychology('eventiually ALL human behavior will be categorized and 'cured')...<BR/>but when we stop and look around<BR/>we're living with all of this "progress"...it ain't pretty.<BR/><BR/>yet another argument for the vertical search.gumshoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10567181585153569751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152399051871321032006-07-08T15:50:00.000-07:002006-07-08T15:50:00.000-07:00"It is impossible to speak in such a way that you ..."It is impossible to speak in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood."Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152397806382689802006-07-08T15:30:00.000-07:002006-07-08T15:30:00.000-07:00I agree with you that some people, in their effort...I agree with you that some people, in their efforts to overcome them, misguidedly perpetuate, in the ways you describe, the very conditions you mention with respect to such things as black anger and underachievement. But what has Ted Kennedy specifically said or done as a politician that you see as constituting "child abuse" in the sense that you describe? Specific quotes or other concrete examples would be appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152389494247050602006-07-08T13:11:00.000-07:002006-07-08T13:11:00.000-07:00Thanks dilys. I was just about to bring some of t...Thanks dilys. I was just about to bring some of that info here. I will shorten it.<BR/><BR/>I come from the generation and class which thought that money-grubbing professions were inherently tawdry and unethical, while the more useless disciplines, such as what I studied, had an inherent nobility which made us more refined than people who majored in business or engineering. What a crock!<BR/><BR/>They still say it behind closed doors.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1152384986823847942006-07-08T11:56:00.000-07:002006-07-08T11:56:00.000-07:00Bob-o-commentor Assistant Village Idiot has two in...Bob-o-commentor Assistant Village Idiot has <A HREF="http://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/2006/07/types-of-answers-in-education.html" REL="nofollow">two</A> interesting <A HREF="http://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/2006/07/types-of-answers-in-education-part-two.html" REL="nofollow">posts</A> on what kind of thinking is currently rewarded in the young in "liberal" education. Not exactly bedrock childraising issues, but somewhat related here. <BR/><BR/>My own observation is that the more recent products of public education are less than familiar with methodical factual material, and rush to conceptualize and mix'n'matchthe abstract [rather like <EM>moi</EM> on a bad day, but more of them :-) ]. Anyway, he offers a sense of how this happens.<BR/><BR/>You might some day have a comment on the issues of fostering the mind as a foundation for the Vertical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com