tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post113622531155617404..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Brokeback Mountain and the Passion of the Left: Deconstructing the DeconstructersGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1154057303828285842006-07-27T20:28:00.000-07:002006-07-27T20:28:00.000-07:00Correction: I have heard many on the right (espe...Correction: I have heard many on the right (especially the Christian right) state that any society that embraces(insert HOMOSEXUALITY here) is one that is cursed. As if the very decision to acquiesce to the homosexual agenda is what dooms a society. I think the inevitable American promotion of widespread homosexuality is mearly a symptom of a society that has been doomed for at least the past 60 years.<BR/><BR/>Jimmmmmmmmmmm AKA long riderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1154056928081841842006-07-27T20:22:00.000-07:002006-07-27T20:22:00.000-07:00I haven't read your entire blog, so maybe you have...I haven't read your entire blog, so maybe you have already addressed this, but isn't a phobia and irrational fear? It is telling that the homosexual left label those who oppose their agenda "crazy". <BR/><BR/>I have a theory, actually it would be a two part hypothesis. No one would fund the research for obvious reasons. <BR/><BR/>1) I hypothesize that since we are pack animals, hypocrisy is built into every one of us. What we want to do is not what we want our pack to do. We want to get away with as much as we can, but we want the pack to be as secure as possible. Our selfishness(the true human nature) is always at war with the stability of society. <BR/><BR/> In a permissive society, Individuals are allowed to do things at are actually at odds with this first instinct. Individuals can "rest assured" as the step out into activities that deviate from the norm that the pack will not reject them.<BR/><BR/>2)One of our strongest instincts is procreation. In moderntmes this instinct is no longer necessary for the propagation of the species, so it has morphed into a pasttime or aform of entertainment. In the secular world, they don't even want to recognize that it is an instinct, "the measure of everything" has elevated himself above such primative things. <BR/><BR/>Still these two instincts endure. The instinct to reproduce and the instinct to maintain a strong pack. Therefore it is perfectly natural that most hetrosexuals will have an aversion to homosexuality. No amount of desensitization (which was one of the reasons for the movie to exist) will completely remove this natural aversion to any deviant sexuality that doesn't atleast simulate...well, mating.<BR/><BR/>So, if my hypothesis is correct, the label homophobia is a sickening misnomer. It debases the basic instinct that has insured the very existance of our species. <BR/><BR/>I have heard many on the right (especially the Christian right) state that any society that embracessociety is one that is cursed. As if the very decision to acquiesce to the homosexual agenda is what dooms a society. I think the inevitable American promotion of widespread homosexuality is mearly a symptom of a society that has been doomed for at least the past 60 years.<BR/><BR/>But hey..it's just an hypothesis!<BR/><BR/>Peace be unto you,<BR/><BR/>Jimmmmmmmmm aka Long RiderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1141624312817461432006-03-05T21:51:00.000-08:002006-03-05T21:51:00.000-08:00Gaaaaah--wanker!! you aren't gay. How in the worl...Gaaaaah--wanker!! you aren't gay. How in the world anyone thinks that victims will ever be much more than victims is some sort of iconography gone wild. Christianity in its purist form simply has no room for judgement of anykind. Grace is the issue at hand NOT victims as the nobility of nature.... It's unconditional love. subverting all mens homosexual needs is a social stricture of new western origin. homophobia is so rampant. Why is that? who would care what a tiny percentage of the population could have sexual desires different from there own unless there is far more to it? If man were allowed to align his sexual pathos as it developed naturally there would be no dominoe effect of queer nation. Some straight guys could easily guide their weaker fellows who are gay not of real love for men but a need to consume and bring into himself what he isn't and working for just the drops of sweat ofF the superhero's jock. Ashamed he is so far from that world that he works it into a kind of cannabilistic obsession. we'll never achieve a healthy society of men until homosexuality is part and parcel of that small group of people well integrated into the rest of society with complete acceptance love, compassion and respect. It is fully insane to think that not blending homosexuality into the script of nature on the same strata as heterosexuality will somehow promulgate armies of limp wristed pillow biters all burning in desire to do nothing but to consume the essence of another man. No! That's more like it is now!!! balance and harmony and a much better understanding between males and females and the breadth of all sexual needs. Giving is grace. grace is showing that you can love and guide the fearful and ashamed. and to have that strength is manly and compassionate. But then this man is not so scary, imposing, mocking.... Alienation of young homosexuals deepens neediness driven of self hate ultimately. Bring them in from their exile and the straight jock is their friend and brother. then tension is resolved and that jock is just another man like you ...guy! no idolized unreachable super penis with sperm gushing like a artesian well. No NO simply another man like you with differences but not a god. Straight guys give all your gay friends a big hearty loving nonsexual hug... that you love them however they are. This is the biggest way to destroy all of the cultural perversity and degradation of the modern gay culture. for in no longer being cast out they are without need to play the fatalistic queen yearning for her MAN. That man exists nowhere. But he is created not out of homosexuality but out of it's exclusion hate and fear.deadmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01011719426074300898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136658985167370242006-01-07T10:36:00.000-08:002006-01-07T10:36:00.000-08:00A much deeper question cutting to the core of the ...A much deeper question cutting to the core of the Hollywood logos: Will I pay money to see the movie?<BR/><BR/>No, no I won't.Chiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07972876880559981372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136522207155909742006-01-05T20:36:00.000-08:002006-01-05T20:36:00.000-08:00bubbsi agree as I said let's get that will and gr...bubbs<BR/><BR/>i agree <BR/><BR/>as I said let's get that will and grace show off the air. And in NY the new City Council President is LESBIAN<BR/><BR/>our culture and civilization are at riskAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136395487470059802006-01-04T09:24:00.000-08:002006-01-04T09:24:00.000-08:00More interesting comments on this subject:See Inst...More interesting comments on this subject:<BR/><BR/>See Instapunk.com archive of 21 December-<BR/><BR/>"... but the elephant in the room is not anal sex; it's the political and social agenda of the gay movement, whose purpose is to overturn a moral consensus which has underlain western civilization for at least 2,000 years."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136394876433346772006-01-04T09:14:00.000-08:002006-01-04T09:14:00.000-08:00Anonymous straight gal ~Shouldn't that be Bareback...Anonymous straight gal ~<BR/><BR/>Shouldn't that be Bareback Mountin' ?<BR/><BR/>Everybody else ~<BR/><BR/>Er, tolerance is good, force-feeding obligatory acceptance is not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136392384104100112006-01-04T08:33:00.000-08:002006-01-04T08:33:00.000-08:00will the american right's deeply morbid and immatu...will the american right's deeply morbid and immature fascination with gay sex never end?<BR/><BR/>zzzzzzzzzzzAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136351084739240112006-01-03T21:04:00.000-08:002006-01-03T21:04:00.000-08:00You're missing the point entirely. I was drawing ...You're missing the point entirely. I was drawing an ironic parallel between the religious iconography of the left vs. that of the religious right. You are free to not understand what I'm talking about, but there's no reason to be offended. You're just making my point--to the left, everything is open for analysis and deconstruction except for their own sacred icons. Piss Christ? No problem. Brokeback Mountain? Sacred victims! Hands off!Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136346357458937682006-01-03T19:45:00.000-08:002006-01-03T19:45:00.000-08:00as a gay person i don't feel "used" by brokeback m...as a gay person i don't feel "used" by brokeback mountain or the reviewers<BR/><BR/>i do, however feel intellectually abused by your equating the film with some sort of societal decadence decrying the film in which<BR/><BR/>"homosexuals are elevated to the highest realm of the leftist pantheon. "<BR/><BR/>and then stating:<BR/><BR/>"I am writing about deeper cultural trends, not about particular homosexuals, many of whom are obviously fine people"<BR/><BR/>so a film portraying gays in a positive light is part of a debased society but some of us are "fine people"<BR/><BR/>thanks for nothing<BR/><BR/>intellectual homophobia even when "the lady doth protest too much"<BR/><BR/>btw some of best friends are black...and jewish... and hispanic. It's just their politics, movies, music and art I have a problem with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136321883763511892006-01-03T12:58:00.000-08:002006-01-03T12:58:00.000-08:00"You're like a Nietzsche to some future Hitler."Ex..."You're like a Nietzsche to some future Hitler."<BR/><BR/>Exactly! Except that Nietzsche and I have exact opposite views on everything, and that fascism and totalitarianism always comes from the left, not out of the classical liberalism I advocate. <BR/><BR/>"please do address why you choose to write in such derisive tone about a movie you haven't seen seeing it as a sign of the decedent left."<BR/><BR/>--Because, as I made clear, I am writing about the cultural phenomenon of the movie, not the movie itself. I have no interest in the film per se, only what it reveals about the deep structure of leftist thought and passion. <BR/><BR/> "And you're "surprised" at the response. Was that surprised at the homophobes or surprised at those that took offense?"<BR/><BR/>--Both. <BR/><BR/>"But "many gays are fine people" (I'm sure they needed your approval) <BR/><BR/>--You're free to be sarcastic, but I was simply trying to emphasize that I was not writing about individual homosexuals, but about how homosexuals are used by the left to advance their political agenda. <BR/> <BR/>"btw your evidence that liberals "don't care " about blacks. And conservatives care about ?<BR/><BR/>--You are not receptive to truth at this moment in your life. Perhaps some other time.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136318953070888272006-01-03T12:09:00.000-08:002006-01-03T12:09:00.000-08:00Interesting. When you write about homosexuality, i...Interesting. When you write about homosexuality, it never fails: people hear what they want to hear. Whay is that?<BR/><BR/>I will address this in a future post. <BR/><BR/>please do address why you choose to write in such derisive tone about a movie you haven't seen seeing it as a sign of the decedent left. <BR/><BR/>The movie (which you might want to see before writing about)tells a homosexual love story unrequited because of social mores. One character leads a lonely life, the other is murdered for his sexual orientation. <BR/><BR/>But it is sick to see this as a tragic story, I guess it is decadent lefty thought to think this happened to anyone in the real world in the 1950s or early 1960s or it would say anything about society if it did.<BR/><BR/>And you're "surprised" at the response. Was that surprised at the homophobes or surprised at those that took offense<BR/><BR/>But "many gays are fine people" (I'm sure they needed your approval) <BR/><BR/>As long I guess, as they stay in the closet and don't have their lives portrayed in movies (or books,plays, television,music too ?). 'Cause that would be a manifestation of the hijacking of our culture by the sick leftys.<BR/><BR/>btw your evidence that liberals "don't care " about blacks. And conservatives care about ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136304413842327012006-01-03T08:06:00.000-08:002006-01-03T08:06:00.000-08:00Interesting. When you write about homosexuality, ...Interesting. When you write about homosexuality, it never fails: people hear what they want to hear. Whay is that?<BR/><BR/>I will address this in a future post.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136267790684035012006-01-02T21:56:00.000-08:002006-01-02T21:56:00.000-08:00As a straight single woman, I appreciate honest ga...As a straight single woman, I appreciate honest gay men. At least out gay men aren't wasting women't time, trying to be straight. I want to be with a guy who likes women, not a guy who's trying not to like men (that way).I do understand Gagdad Bob's point, which makes my post slightly OT, but I don't see anyone else being on topic either. And as long as I'm here...every time I see the title "Brokeback Mountain," I'm tempted to read it as "Bareback Mountain."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136265593904189202006-01-02T21:19:00.000-08:002006-01-02T21:19:00.000-08:00Gagdad Bob,Some of the comments today bring up a t...Gagdad Bob,<BR/>Some of the comments today bring up a thought I have had before about you. You're like a Nietzsche to some future Hitler. It scares me a bit. In that vein, I think it is irresponsible of you to give Petey's angry and hostile (prejudicial?) sarcasm a stage. His destructive urges require greater policing by you, and it is your responsibility to understand that there are many in your audience who, er, miss the point all too zealously and monomaniacally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136250029185077872006-01-02T17:00:00.000-08:002006-01-02T17:00:00.000-08:00Er, I think you missed the point.Er, I think you missed the point.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136249709530817952006-01-02T16:55:00.000-08:002006-01-02T16:55:00.000-08:00Thank you, thank you for pointing out the sick, le...Thank you, thank you for pointing out the sick, lefty valueless agenda represented by movie. I too won't see it and am in fact working with other to get our local theatre to stop showing it. You and you readers should become active as we have. We succeeded in getting Procter and Gamble to stop advertising on Will and Grace, although we had less success with Ford. At my son's private school we successfully pressured a homosexual teacher/coach to resign. At the local public school they are attempting the same. We have also established a parent curriculum committee to review all assigned reading material.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the inspiring intellectual support !! We will win the battle against the degenerate secular left.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136245607105362102006-01-02T15:46:00.000-08:002006-01-02T15:46:00.000-08:00Partly off-topic, but the obsession with nature an...Partly off-topic, but the obsession with nature and feelings reminds me of the post and discussion a few months back at "Gates of Vienna" on the Coalition against Civilization and the whole anarcho-primitivist movement.<BR/><BR/>http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_gatesofvienna_archive.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1136236460188709672006-01-02T13:14:00.000-08:002006-01-02T13:14:00.000-08:00It is true that there are undoubtedly some obligat...It is true that there are undoubtedly some obligatory homosexuals, and that they deserve our tolerance. But there are actually far fewer than we are led to believe by the activists. The last thing to tell a sexually ambivalent teenage boy is that they should simply "act on their feelings," as if there are no unnatural or destructive feelings. It's a terrible message to send a child--another instance of the left abusing children under the guise of helping them "come out" and "acccept their homosexuality," as if it's a foregone conclusion.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.com