tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post6251518902179515674..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Man: The End of, and Escape from, EvolutionGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39409622788611220542009-08-17T08:28:04.813-07:002009-08-17T08:28:04.813-07:00Cooncur. It's for the best.Cooncur. It's for the best.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53230957702351082392009-08-17T08:16:03.899-07:002009-08-17T08:16:03.899-07:00I will imply from your response that the article i...I will imply from your response that the article is a joke. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50407919671647622602009-08-17T06:50:43.020-07:002009-08-17T06:50:43.020-07:00Yes, it is a joke or not.Yes, it is a joke or not.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-47036398673636139042009-08-17T05:39:18.088-07:002009-08-17T05:39:18.088-07:00Hi,
I was wondering if someone could let me know ...Hi,<br /><br />I was wondering if someone could let me know if this article is a joke or not. I checked the author's profile and couldn't tell if he is being serious in his arguments. I don't have time right now to research it further, so please help me out.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />RussellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-31040062174148081452009-08-15T08:46:27.195-07:002009-08-15T08:46:27.195-07:00Magnus said "scientists, whenever they discov...Magnus said "scientists, whenever they discover something truly wondrous and amazing, are compelled to try to make it look as banal as possible."<br /><br />Yep. I think it's the 'Mr. Spock' effect of dualism - anything smacking of emotion is tarred with physical associations which means they are less 'intellectual' and therefore 'not serious', 'Serious' thoughts can only be expressed through clinical, flat, verbiage purged of any signs of emotion, humor, etc, a prescription for the banal.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12893735889480086262009-08-15T08:02:45.019-07:002009-08-15T08:02:45.019-07:00It is unfortunately so that scientists, whenever t...It is unfortunately so that scientists, whenever they discover something truly wondrous and amazing, are compelled to try to make it look as banal as possible. I don't know if this is a requisite for publication or simply a constraint of their conditioned mind.<br /><br />So often scientific facts come with so much banality goo attached that one must routinely wash one's mind in running water until only the nuggets remain.Magnus Itlandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18445902788427523461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5447157397019932802009-08-14T15:47:38.817-07:002009-08-14T15:47:38.817-07:00potty mouth,
See my comment on 8/14/2009's pos...potty mouth,<br />See my comment on 8/14/2009's post at 02:02:00 PM. Fit's well here too.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54137598914621212232009-08-14T14:28:44.244-07:002009-08-14T14:28:44.244-07:00Van: It is a very simple process in principle...
...Van: <i>It is a very simple process in principle...</i><br /><br />Morality and politics is indeed simple, if you're a simpleton.goddinpottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6466025851503947112009-08-14T08:32:57.821-07:002009-08-14T08:32:57.821-07:00"I don't know which is more shocking, the..."I don't know which is more shocking, the (↑) that potentially results in the divinization of man, or the (↓) that makes possible the hominization of God."<br /><br />I was sorta shocked this didn't generate some comments... there are a lot of ways that could be interpreted and misinterpreted, but it seems to me that that would be one of the leading reasons for saying 'let there be light' to begin with... but maybe that's just me.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86568193373459712782009-08-14T08:25:52.526-07:002009-08-14T08:25:52.526-07:00"If our humanness were reducible to natural s..."If our humanness were reducible to natural selection, then it could have no finality. Rather, every species would only be "on the way" to something else. But again, man cannot be surpassed, because man is capable of conceiving and knowing the Absolute. Obviously there cannot be a "more absolute absolute." "<br /><br />My first reaction to this was welll... I could envision improvements, meniscus' that don't tear, that'd be an improvement... corneas that don't require goofy glasses as you get old, there's certainly room for that improvement, and even a more reliable, searchable, retrievable system for our memories database, that could certainly be improved (maybe even a usb bio-thumbdrive for those of us who don't want to have to wait on the million year darwinista 'quality is job one' program)... but that all sorta brings us back to the previous point about the separation between animality and humanity... any improvements that maybe conceivable, are on the flat level of material quantity, but of what makes us Human, the perception of and ability to participate with Truth... "Obviously there cannot be a "more absolute absolute." "Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60378456042179956552009-08-14T08:24:08.017-07:002009-08-14T08:24:08.017-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-88881090519820924812009-08-14T08:10:30.936-07:002009-08-14T08:10:30.936-07:00" I was thinking about this the other day. Th..." I was thinking about this the other day. Think of a man raised in the wild by other animals. He has never shaved, had a haircut, or worn clothing. He scrambles about on all fours; there is no "light" in his eyes, which simply dart about the landscape looking for food or predators. This would not be a man, but something less than a man, a failure to embody the human archetype. Note that from a Darwinian perspective, he would still be 100% human."<br /><br />Cooncidentally I was having the same thought the night before, for similar reasons, making the similar point that it is the ever Higher thoughts, concepts, morality, that make us Human - and that thoughts and actions which don't reflect the 'upward incline', which trumpet counter-beauty, counter-higher standards, etc, are anti-human, and are efforts to return us, shove us, down the incline back towards animallity.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78016647972936662712009-08-13T20:18:46.215-07:002009-08-13T20:18:46.215-07:00Elephant, I'll bear Storm Cell in mind next ti...Elephant, I'll bear Storm Cell in mind next time I want to watch something so bad, it's hilarious. I wonder if there's a <a href="http://www.rifftrax.com/" rel="nofollow">Rifftrax</a> for that? They did wonders for Daredevil. And don't feel too bad about going off topic; I'm way worse about that than you :)juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66259595181102811832009-08-13T20:04:34.596-07:002009-08-13T20:04:34.596-07:00gulpingpotty said "Does that "falsify&qu...gulpingpotty said "Does that "falsify" "leftism"? Does falsifying leftism require that all of the ideas in this big space have failed, or only some of them? More than half?"<br /><br />Proregressivism & Leftism cover so many things... so that makes it invalid as terms. I see... so....<br />2+2 = 4 is right, and there is no other correct answer.<br /><br />2+3 = 4 is wrong, as is 3+4=4, 1+1=4, 1+2=4, and a potentially infinite amount of other combinations would also be incorrect... but it would be invalid to term them so?<br /><br />Does it matter that it was well intentioned to try to make 1+2=4? Not in the least.<br /><br />It is a very simple process in principle, of identifying those individual rights which are requirements for a person to make the decisions necessary in the course of their lives, to live their lives - free speech, freedom of association, sanctity of contract and inviolability of property rights. Together with the necessity of objective laws, representative government and equal taxation, they, the principles of Classical Liberalism, are the concepts which this country was founded upon, and which should guide our legislators, executive and justices in writing and applying laws.<br /><br />If a law is passed which violates those rights, if they remove a persons ability and right from their own life to make the decisions proper to a human being, and on top of doing that, mandate their actions by law, force, what actions they must take, in place of where their own individual choice would have been... it is wrong. <br /><br />Whatever the intent which lay behind it, it is wrong, they are wrong, and leftism is wrong. <br /><br />No matter how good and swell you may feel about what shape you are going to reform other peoples lives into, it borders on evil. Sometimes spilling over those borders. <br /><br />Those actions, policies, laws, which leftists propose, and the many panels of experts which proregressives in particular delight in proposing to give the power to impose their own decisions into other peoples lives, in whatever shape or form they propose them; are definitely false, and they are failed before even they finish conceiving, let alone proposing them. They are false because they are rooted in a denial of what is real, in favor of what they'd prefer to be real, and as such they are in their very essence a desecration of individual rights, of liberty, and they are ugly to their very core.<br /><br />No doubt this is beyond you, but for others who might yet happen across here, I hope it is useful as more than a mere exercise.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13978867770373323882009-08-13T17:49:46.257-07:002009-08-13T17:49:46.257-07:00"Leftism too is unfalsifiable, which is one o..."Leftism too is unfalsifiable, which is one of its great appeals, for it means never having to say you're a sorryass."<br /><br />Van: <i>Cue gulpingpotty.</i><br /><br />Well, if you insist...but I'm not sure what it would mean to falsify something that apparently incorporates everything from Hitler to Hillary, from Ford to Franklin Roosevlt, from Wilson to W. That's an awfully big design space, containg some things that worked out for the good (child labor laws, social security), some things that were outrageously evil (the Holocaust), some things that sounded like they might be good ideas but failed in practice (public housing), some things which are a mix of working and non-working (universal public education). Does that "falsify" "leftism"? Does falsifying leftism require that all of the ideas in this big space have failed, or only some of them? More than half? <br /><br />Or is it possible that this is an ill-posed question for multiple reasons, which are left as an exercise for the reader.goddinpottynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55984056850254627862009-08-13T16:10:49.089-07:002009-08-13T16:10:49.089-07:00The obvious main notion of the movie is in the tit...The obvious main notion of the movie is in the title: storm cell >> terrorist cell... ...brought on by non-environmentalists who are causing these cells that kill and terrorize. So the subtext was that non-environmentalists should potentially be treated as terrorists and even murderers. <br /><br />Anyway, very OT.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71566276874379806412009-08-13T16:06:40.297-07:002009-08-13T16:06:40.297-07:00Julie,
I did a brief bit of Google-looking-up a m...Julie,<br /><br />I did a brief bit of Google-looking-up a minute ago, and the odd thing is that on the internet the general temperature seems to be that Christians are calling it prophetic and the media is saying it was Christian propaganda. I don't know how either of those can actually think that. I experienced mounting stomach curdling until the end when I wanted to hurl or yell from embarrassment at where it went at the end.<br /><br />This is very OT but for a good walk down uber-propaganda/lame movie lane, I recommend Storm Cell with Mimi Rogers. In terms of terribleness, it really takes the cake. Brandishly poor special effects, plot, and dialogue along with a raging cross-pollination of terrorist threat with Republicans and land developers, conflating the two to form a militant cause and enemy. It will make you laugh though. I can't overemphasize how tragically silly it is.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69716334253881890502009-08-13T16:02:56.316-07:002009-08-13T16:02:56.316-07:00Yes, the book turned out to be a disappointment --...Yes, the book turned out to be a disappointment -- a thoroughly banal thinker wrestling with a subject far surpassing her modest intellectual gifts. This is why I hold academic psychology in such low regard.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34014683277438912922009-08-13T15:46:12.791-07:002009-08-13T15:46:12.791-07:00One wonders how many Gopniks remain imprisoned in ...One wonders how many Gopniks remain imprisoned in their materialist flatland despite having the exit starting them in the face. Up and out!Northern Banditnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12880353095254003822009-08-13T15:40:11.799-07:002009-08-13T15:40:11.799-07:00It was very weird, and frankly just kind of crapta...It was very weird, and frankly just kind of craptacular. Also, Cage's hairplugs are taking on a life of their own.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71344083015695898582009-08-13T15:21:39.798-07:002009-08-13T15:21:39.798-07:00I say weird because that movie seemed so thick wit...I say weird because that movie seemed so thick with propaganda to me. Less so about the "automatic" writing and codes. That part wasn't as straight-up weird to me as the propagandized symbolism all over the place.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-17251624495936414472009-08-13T14:54:51.663-07:002009-08-13T14:54:51.663-07:00Anon:
Sounds like demons posing as neutral beings...Anon:<br /><br />Sounds like demons posing as neutral beings/phenomena (or some such things) such as the "aliens" in that weird Nicolas Cage movie, Knowing. I hesitate to post this, but, just saying. It is also not exactly worth a lot of time today, given the heights of today's post, which is more pertaining to more elevated subjects.<br /><br /><br />wv: sycicki <br /><br />Heh.Annahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16900344453710081874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4076067221330105522009-08-13T14:02:29.030-07:002009-08-13T14:02:29.030-07:00"Abdul:
Good comedy means knowing when the j..."Abdul:<br /><br />Good comedy means knowing when the joke has ended." <br /><br />That's precisely why I'm leaving American Idol.Paulanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25140465082046811202009-08-13T13:17:04.309-07:002009-08-13T13:17:04.309-07:00Mr. Wad:
You will be further abused by this intui...Mr. Wad:<br /><br />You will be further abused by this intuition:<br /><br />The inorganic formations that will supplant man and be the summit of physcial evolution will go on to experiment and tamper with energy until they create stable conscious formations composed entirely of energy. Then these conscious energy forms will summit the evolutionary charge.<br /><br />And even then, some women will like porn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24208577326825274852009-08-13T11:12:29.159-07:002009-08-13T11:12:29.159-07:00Anon,
Your intuitions are fucked, dude.Anon,<br />Your intuitions are fucked, dude.Johnny Wadnoreply@blogger.com