tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post5650492419321197384..comments2024-03-18T21:33:35.309-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Beauty, Milk, Poop, Soul Jazz, and the Miscaste ObamaGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger84125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15932507900089736462008-07-17T07:33:00.000-07:002008-07-17T07:33:00.000-07:00I'm trying to imagine how the Body of Christ, as d...I'm trying to imagine how the <A HREF="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2012:3-8;&version=72" REL="nofollow">Body of Christ</A>, as described with each member having certain spiritual gifts, etc. and performing different roles in the Body, will play out in the <A HREF="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2021:1-8;&version=72" REL="nofollow">new heaven and earth</A>. The Body wouldn't just be for this world, would it?NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-22189302172472507032008-07-17T06:55:00.000-07:002008-07-17T06:55:00.000-07:00Ricky,Think you're right about the 'predom...Ricky,<BR/>Think you're right about the 'predominant' vis a vis the 'caste system'. Not hard & fast rules per say, not rigid structure - don't dare move outside The Boundries of your type.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps more like getting your 'colors' done or taking one of those career suitability tests. They force a focus on thinking about what fits & what does not, and where stuff shades off into other catigories. Ie, they're useful as exercises to help illuminate & clarify.<BR/><BR/>Geez, no wonder I've always been crappy at ________, that makes sense. Perhaps I should try ________, which is 'on my list' as a possibility. <BR/><BR/>Thinking back to those 'caste' OC posts, the 'shock' to mysoph was how clueless my 'pick' for myself was. Real kick to the egobutt. Pretty damn funny in restrospect.<BR/><BR/>However, as a personal guide to being able to embrace a more True-to-me type, it was invaluable. Magically, with a better 'fit', the endlessly chattering chorus in my head started to let up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79604182149302746002008-07-17T06:03:00.000-07:002008-07-17T06:03:00.000-07:00Hi Walt,Yep. Understood. I agree. Believe me, I’m ...Hi Walt,<BR/>Yep. Understood. I agree. Believe me, I’m still trying to figure out what I really meant. :-) I think it has to do with…well.. I have to scoot to work so this is hurried: many people think I was born to be an artist. To some it must look like it comes easy to me. I’ve seen other people struggle with drawing and so I can see their point. I do not think I’m exceptional by any stretch and I am not. Never did think that way. I remember this one artist, a painter, in art school who was exceptional. Far above anyone else there. It truly came easy to him. Or so it looked. In fact the rumor was the professors didn’t know how to take it further. I’m not sure why I went in that direction. Anyway, for whatever reason I don’t think, if I had a choice, that I could “do art” 24/7 – even if I am not very good at , for lack of a better way to put it, my “true calling.”<BR/><BR/>And…this just in…if I pretend to be any kind of “philosopher”, despite how good or not I may be at that, I have to be one, because I have a son. So I’ll keep at it. The day job is sufficiently under control. Or so it seems - better get to that one :-)Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78465989352336528922008-07-17T06:02:00.000-07:002008-07-17T06:02:00.000-07:00Worked late lastnight, came home & read the yo...Worked late lastnight, came home & read the youngest into bed, took care of somethings around the house, and just had a few minutes before bed to spare, got a couple comments lined up and ready to post lastnight... and zap! bluescreen of death - without the bluescreen, just 'blip' and the new Vista Ultimate laptop gave me the official Microsoft welcome to vista handshake.<BR/><BR/>Sheesh.<BR/><BR/>Just as a quick hit and run before getting the youngest up for school, from the post yesterday... crud, it even lost the IE History, and I don't see the link I'd found lastnight on the Judith and Halofernes (if you don't know your Bible, this is a beheading... those born before 1980 might find it gruesome). Well <A HREF="http://artandaesthetics.wordpress.com/2007/05/08/judith-beheading-holofernes/" REL="nofollow">this will work</A>, might even be more instructive by it's lack of depth, he takes a much more horizontal look at the two. <BR/><BR/>In comparing two artists conceptions, Artemisia Gentileschi’s and Caravaggio, he finds Caravaggio's painting of Judith, as being far too reserved, whereas the one I found last night, though approaching it as a commentary on gender and cathartic release (stemming from her Gentileschi’s having been raped), her Judith (argh, this one doesn't even use the more visceral of her two paintings of it, <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GENTILESCHI_Judith.jpg" REL="nofollow">wiki does</A> ), is more involved in the act of beheading Holofernes. But the lost page, pointed out that it was God and justice that guided and animated her hands in Caravaggio's, while the rest of her almost tried to withdraw from the action. Artemmisia's however, is far more involved, more horizontally motivated to behead the general, than Caravaggio's.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The point, is even in matters of a horrible, ugly act, Art, true Art, seeks to convey a truth and beauty in visual poetry... composition, colors, character study, what is included and what is not... it tells a story, that most vital ingredient, which post-modernism most of all has exiled from its 'works' in lit & art 'for their own sake'.<BR/><BR/>They not only seek to pretend that their whims are more worthwhile than reality, but in doing so even begin to exile themselves from human reality, from any vertical grasp at all, they descend to the horizontal animality and below.<BR/><BR/>The Good, the True and the Beautiful are inextribly united - any attempt to fake or exclude one or the other, soon banishes you from all.<BR/><BR/>(crud, gotta go, no time for spell or thought check, sorry)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7153235057087607242008-07-17T05:18:00.000-07:002008-07-17T05:18:00.000-07:00Ricky --Just my opinion:A "little farming" is only...Ricky --<BR/><BR/>Just my opinion:<BR/><BR/>A "little farming" is only a hobby; to feed a family, or other families, is no small thing.<BR/><BR/>A "little hunting" is the same; if it's for food, for sustenance, it takes "a lot" of hunting.<BR/><BR/>Stunning, <I>how much</I> is required, if you ever try it. This is where the middleman, or "merchant" came in.<BR/><BR/>A little farming is definitely good for the soul, and the learning curve.<BR/><BR/>Again, just my opinion. Yours, at no cost.walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-48523569949388979642008-07-17T04:37:00.000-07:002008-07-17T04:37:00.000-07:00Oh Lord, of course, Gato on the OC sidebar. I was ...Oh Lord, of course, Gato on the OC sidebar. I was searching for it on the dailymail stylish cow page.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54420643447650419052008-07-17T04:36:00.000-07:002008-07-17T04:36:00.000-07:00Bob,RE “priestly” caste, good eye. I should have s...Bob,<BR/>RE “priestly” caste, good eye. I should have said “referred”. Anyway, it didn’t sound pretentious to me about you, but I understand how it must sound of you from your perspective. And now that you mention it, I’m surprised it didn’t kick-start a troll when I brought it up. It made me stop too for a sec when I read it. But given only 5 or 6 categories to choose from and one of them “priestly”, it made sense for you to use it. Besides, I know you didn’t mean it the way some Deecafs would “embrace” it so easily.<BR/><BR/>One other thing about caste, and maybe I’m not using it right but, I don’t think I would survive as a hunter or farmer either. I don’t have the metabolism for one thing and don’t think I could spend so much time in one caste anyway. But I would very much like to do a little farming. I know my “part-time” job supports the day one rather than the other way around.<BR/><BR/>So Bob, do you think a person can be built for two or more? I think you are saying there is a “predominant” one for a person and that even then most will not be great at it. Which is fine. It’s the forcing yourself to be exceptional at it, and convincing yourself you are when you are not, that is not good. And you’re speaking “generally”. But I look at the categories and I clearly see a little farmer and hunter and warrior in here too. Seems the blessings of modernity finally allow it. The real world outside of your predominant caste will provoke those lesser ones. In other words, you may need ‘em someday.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50774894649787875852008-07-17T02:10:00.000-07:002008-07-17T02:10:00.000-07:00Need lotsa curin'...Need lotsa curin'...USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57786589592220276402008-07-17T02:09:00.000-07:002008-07-17T02:09:00.000-07:00Caste iron skill it...Caste iron skill it...USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-30727543233504366232008-07-16T22:05:00.000-07:002008-07-16T22:05:00.000-07:00I don't think I would say "priestly" caste today. ...I don't think I would say "priestly" caste today. For one thing, it sounds pretentious. "Raccoon caste" is more like it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75865359979557048042008-07-16T21:43:00.000-07:002008-07-16T21:43:00.000-07:00Ricky: There is truth in what you say. Thanks.Ricky: There is truth in what you say. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38497367980773516912008-07-16T21:22:00.000-07:002008-07-16T21:22:00.000-07:00Alan,I think there is also something to be said fo...Alan,<BR/>I think there is also something to be said for saving what you are “born to do” for your own time – and not how you make a living. As a possible alternative. This seems perfectly acceptable to me. Bob refers to himself in that older post as being of the “priestly” caste. It’s not his day job. It works in the background. This reminds me of our Unknown Friend who was a translator for the BBC monitoring Soviet broadcasts.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63363100036859667462008-07-16T20:31:00.000-07:002008-07-16T20:31:00.000-07:00Some thoughts...1. I have to disagree with parts o...Some thoughts...<BR/><BR/>1. I have to disagree with parts of Schuon's writings because of his stance on Islam. Perhaps that is where his preference for traditionalism comes from (or just aligned with it).<BR/><BR/>2. Any metaphysical outlook that puts the group in charge of the individual is mistaken - that part of ourselves which is shared is spiritually less evolved than the part with is individualized (for those who get there)<BR/><BR/>3. Modernity has had the spiritual benefit of a much larger, more complex "organism" for the Body of Christ to incarnate - giving more opportunities for differentiation of its "cells" ...ie us. I think I would have died as a farmer, hunter, or warrior whereas I can make good money in a small niche of the internet business world - a thing at least part of me was born to do. This differentiation allows for the fuller understanding of the glory of God, both in our lives and in the lives of others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72859554248142870062008-07-16T20:25:00.000-07:002008-07-16T20:25:00.000-07:00Not that a piece of software could do that “trick”...Not that a piece of software could do that “trick”, but that the shapes are recognizable for a reason.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-59788544940728696612008-07-16T20:23:00.000-07:002008-07-16T20:23:00.000-07:00Exactly what I was thinking, Julie. I’m certain th...Exactly what I was thinking, Julie. I’m certain they were waves of some nature.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-391263813064595582008-07-16T20:13:00.000-07:002008-07-16T20:13:00.000-07:00Which leads me to wonder what notes would sound, w...Which leads me to wonder what notes would sound, where the marks in the Shroud entered into the software. Given the regular spacing there would certainly be rhythm. I wonder if there would be actual chords? Vocals?juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-82270202143068836102008-07-16T20:09:00.000-07:002008-07-16T20:09:00.000-07:00Robin,RE Melodyne, incredible.About 2 minutes in t...Robin,<BR/>RE Melodyne, incredible.<BR/>About 2 minutes in the video, when they separate the notes from the chords and they go “3D”, the note shapes against the background bear a striking resemblance to the burn holes, patches and seams in the <A HREF="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Shroudofturin.jpg" REL="nofollow">Shroud of Turin.</A>Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25119769497487908482008-07-16T19:42:00.000-07:002008-07-16T19:42:00.000-07:00I'm with you, Nomo. As it says, "our God is a con...I'm with you, Nomo. As it says, "our God is a consuming fire" and even the works of the immortals are to be tested by fire (1 Cor. 3, I think). Paul says only those things that are metaphorically gold and silver will pass the test. The works of the flesh -- wood, hay, and stubble will be consumed.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40160366712211094662008-07-16T19:39:00.000-07:002008-07-16T19:39:00.000-07:00Hi Bob -- is there some way one can access your ar...Hi Bob -- is there some way one can access your archives? I can't seem to find a link to a calendar or archives section -- can readers go through older posts?<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-44962851772616374532008-07-16T19:06:00.000-07:002008-07-16T19:06:00.000-07:00I know that it's not exactly modern Jazz, but has ...I know that it's not exactly modern Jazz, but has anyone here realized that 720 In the Books can get stuck in your head on a permanent basis?<BR/><BR/>Or is that a problem that is unique to me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78587393662941190822008-07-16T18:47:00.000-07:002008-07-16T18:47:00.000-07:00A book like what? There are an awful lot mentioned...A book like what? There are an awful lot mentioned here, you'll have to be a bit more specific.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38199372546819067262008-07-16T17:46:00.000-07:002008-07-16T17:46:00.000-07:00What kind of conservative writes a book like that?...What kind of conservative writes a book like that? I'm reading it for the third time. What, praytell, is your definition of conservative? Eternally GratefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-8762120718975046362008-07-16T17:42:00.000-07:002008-07-16T17:42:00.000-07:00Try some of the samples on amazon. They give a go...Try some of the samples on amazon. They give a good idea of what the music is about...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-87823089608627469312008-07-16T17:40:00.000-07:002008-07-16T17:40:00.000-07:00Yes, Gato Barbieri, who was amazing until he went ...Yes, Gato Barbieri, who was amazing until he went pop in the late '70's. This <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/Impulse-Story-Gato-Barbieri/dp/B000F8DT9G/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1216255018&sr=1-13" REL="nofollow">compilation</A> is also outstanding. Both sound like Coltrane in an authentic ethnic/folk Latin American setting. I've been listening to it a lot. Very ECSTATIC.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-23696369063048800242008-07-16T17:32:00.000-07:002008-07-16T17:32:00.000-07:00Here you go, Ximeze.<A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000003NA6?tag=onecosmos-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000003NA6&adid=13CTWTQ9JMX5NM4T37Y6&" REL="nofollow">Here</A> you go, Ximeze.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com