tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post55458832949411016..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: What is the Liztard, that the Cosmos is Mindful of Him?Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger112125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6315590041657012382008-08-22T09:06:00.000-07:002008-08-22T09:06:00.000-07:00You are a liar, which is to say, a liberal. Denni...You are a liar, which is to say, a liberal. Dennis Prager never said that Keith Ellison should be "banned," only that he should demonstrate his solidarity with the Judeo-Christian principles upon which the country was founded by swearing on a Bible and a Koran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76125536174561006082008-08-22T07:00:00.000-07:002008-08-22T07:00:00.000-07:00You will notice, for example, how a Dennis Prager ...<I> You will notice, for example, how a Dennis Prager routinely picks apart the negative hallucinators of the left by never engaging them on the same emotional plane, but by staying within his higher space.</I><BR/><BR/>Like when Dennis Prager, a Jew, claimed that Keith Ellison should be banned from Congress for not taking an oath on the Bible, because America is a Christian nation?<BR/><BR/><B> no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.</B> U.S. Constitution, 1787<BR/><BR/>At least in this situation, Dennis Prager's "higher space" was, in fact, the intellectual gutter of Christianist anti-Americanism..https://www.blogger.com/profile/12558427075777009747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83318019030439412822008-08-03T07:32:00.000-07:002008-08-03T07:32:00.000-07:00It's the difference between "vertical" creationism...It's the difference between "vertical" creationism and "horizontal" creationism, a difference which is infinite.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77416317241517722612008-08-03T07:31:00.000-07:002008-08-03T07:31:00.000-07:00Cooncur!Cooncur!Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-92167973539795900552008-08-03T07:24:00.000-07:002008-08-03T07:24:00.000-07:00A more sophisticated creationist will recognize th...A more sophisticated creationist will recognize that metaphysics does not describe 'how' it happened but 'why' - and thus not use Genesis as a scientific text. But, certain non-believers, lets say, see only the belief in God, and therefore insist that anyone who believes in God must be as the most hidebound creationist. (Please note, there have been creationists since the dawn of time who did not think of the story of the beginning of the world except as a legend or myth, or as a spiritual understanding, or vague outline.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63020957847561249682008-07-30T17:13:00.000-07:002008-07-30T17:13:00.000-07:00Goodbye Natalie - You cut him to the core with yo...Goodbye Natalie - <BR/>You cut him to the core with your final parting comment. He has had to repeat it a number of times since, to get the anti-religious masses to rally around him and subject you to the daily 'two minute of hate' exercise. There's almost a cult like quality about that place anymore that is downright creepy. He is certainly <B> not running a conservative blog</B>. It's more like a hate all religions, love Israeli real estate, kinda blog. That is if anyone can pay any attention with all of the ads flickering here, and here, and over here, and over there, and down there...<BR/>MikeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71999653241103488082008-07-30T10:30:00.000-07:002008-07-30T10:30:00.000-07:00Very seldom may I brag on myself for anything of r...Very seldom may I brag on myself for anything of real worth, but I must give myself a pat.<BR/><BR/>I called Charles on his inconsistency before the rest...however, most of the CGP crowd can brag that they got banned before I did. I was always jealous of that fact.<BR/><BR/>There's a multitude of reasons to be banned from LGF, but I think one observation cut the deepest of all:<BR/><BR/><I>Stating the fact that Charles the Elder can mock virtually everything of mention in the Torah, all the while seeking notoriety as a great friend of anything Jewish.</I><BR/><BR/>It was always an incongruity in reasoning that was difficult for me to get my arms around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-60906732248066842962008-07-29T11:44:00.000-07:002008-07-29T11:44:00.000-07:00http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30680_Audi...<A>http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30680_Audio-_The_Discovery_Institute_Collaborates_with_Turkish_Creationists/comments/#5588594</A><BR/><I>#552 Charles 7/18/08 12:45:25 pm reply quote +6 <BR/><BR/>P.S. If you reject "Darwinism," yes, you are anti-science. The theory of evolution is one of humanity's greatest scientific achievements, and if you deny it, you are denying science.<BR/><BR/>Now, if you simply choose to deny science, and don't try to force your views on other people, that's your own business. It's sad, but we all have free will.<BR/><BR/>The problem is that the groups I've been posting about are trying to FORCE their religious views on the rest of society, and they're using dishonest tactics to do it.</I><BR/><BR/>You must just believe, <BR/>you are not allowed to think for yourself or you are anti-science!<BR/><BR/>Now I work in the civil engineering field which would be applied science, measurements, calculations and such and this has a great effect on how I view evolutionary theory and the incredible assumptions that have to be made for the things we yet cannot observe.<BR/><BR/>Wow that was a good size earthquake, hope I am back later.Barhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10932926125335714826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45527277121721845182008-07-29T10:56:00.000-07:002008-07-29T10:56:00.000-07:00Godfrey, stick around & keep reading. Raccoon ...Godfrey, stick around & keep reading. Raccoon pelts are discrete in markings and come in myriad sizes & shapes.<BR/><BR/>An eye toward Slack is big with us. Vacationers welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-77779792268068634772008-07-29T09:26:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:26:00.000-07:00Hello everyoneEvidently I'm something of a cross b...Hello everyone<BR/><BR/>Evidently I'm something of a cross between a Lizard and a Raccoon, so I expect no love from either family.<BR/><BR/>We have a universe that changes, and science studies the mechanisms of those changes, tests them, and states them precisely, often for use. Science has nothing meta-physical to say or to offer in the way of experience, since whatever is not physical is beyond its ability to study scientifically. "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent," etc.<BR/><BR/>Some people conclude from the evidence for evolutionary activity that there is no creator at all, but such a conclusion is not scientific (testable).<BR/><BR/>Nor is it logical. The activity of natural selection is perfectly compatible with the creationist perspective of a First Cause, for example, which is also by necessity continuously Present to all creation. God certainly can be present to the evolving universe at every point.<BR/><BR/>This is adequately summarized by Charles's first two propositions:<BR/><BR/>"Belief in God does not preclude belief in evolution.<BR/>Belief in evolution does not preclude belief in God."<BR/><BR/>So to me it appears that raging against Charles is misplaced. As far as I can tell his stated position is merely agnostic.* He does seem to take pleasure in swatting those who read Genesis as some sort of scientific account, but I don't see him attacking theism per se. What is very clear is that he attacks any attempt to inject metaphysics into science class. For the continued health of both metaphysics and science (and to prevent Islamist influence), I think that's wise.<BR/><BR/>Misplaced too is the rage of atheist lizards against raccoons. As any casual survey of scientists and doctors will find, theistic beliefs and scientific methods are often found together. Sometimes both are highly and equally developed. There is simply no justification for ridiculing theists as yahoos; those who engage in this kind of ridicule simply foul themselves.<BR/><BR/>I am not a scientist or doctor, but I am in their camp because I think the lizard and the raccoon are two halves of the same mind. Their operations and skillsets are different and have different uses. To pit them against each other is to suffer, and to cause suffering.<BR/><BR/>I simply don't see Charles doing that. Some lizards do, and they will have their own reward.<BR/><BR/>/godfrey<BR/><BR/>* A raccoon on a holiday, perhaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79841566119501929082008-07-29T09:08:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:08:00.000-07:00Darn, wrong thread. Fortunately I don't claim to b...Darn, wrong thread. Fortunately I don't claim to be perfect.Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70631598398370946442008-07-29T09:07:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:07:00.000-07:00A murderer with even a shred of human decency woul...<I>A murderer with even a shred of human decency would ask to be put to death, because he has destroyed something infinite and infinitely precious.</I><BR/><BR/>I thought the whole thing about eternal life is that humans <I>can't</I> destroy what's "infinite and infinitely precious"?Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57912436091940385712008-07-29T09:04:00.000-07:002008-07-29T09:04:00.000-07:00Like I said... it's fascinating to see all the the...Like I said... it's fascinating to see all the theories about me, when I've been quite honest about things. Ah, well. At least Erasmus is half right.Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40373555326473506782008-07-29T08:06:00.000-07:002008-07-29T08:06:00.000-07:00Thank you for the refresher, Mushroom! Copyin' an...Thank you for the refresher, Mushroom! Copyin' and savin'.Susannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-67453382047368154032008-07-29T07:36:00.000-07:002008-07-29T07:36:00.000-07:00nomo says:"There is a God...and you are not Him."I...nomo says:<BR/><BR/>"There is a God...and you are not Him."<BR/><BR/>I think that Ray admits that he is not God.<BR/><BR/>Van is working on getting Ray to admit that there is a Ray.jphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908157207748014622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90513169575412454452008-07-29T07:12:00.000-07:002008-07-29T07:12:00.000-07:00ray said "Is anyone going to let Kepler Sings know...ray said "Is anyone going to let Kepler Sings know that evolution "poses no problem to the religious view"?"<BR/><BR/>I did. Gagdad has. The converse of that, is that Religion poses no problem to evolution itself, only its unwarranted derivations.<BR/><BR/>I trust Kepler can read and understand the comments here as well as the post, and would object if he found an objection to it. From his comment, I assume that 'evolution' stands for scientistic darwinist view, Man as determinst machine, rather than Man as possessing free will, Soul. I trust Kepler can object to this or prior comments, if he does disagree.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1159886090995386462008-07-29T07:07:00.000-07:002008-07-29T07:07:00.000-07:00Hey Kepler Sings,Evolution poses no threat to the ...Hey Kepler Sings,<BR/><BR/>Evolution poses no threat to the religious view. Belief in evolution probably does though.<BR/><BR/>Just letting you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-9040238832883601912008-07-29T06:54:00.001-07:002008-07-29T06:54:00.001-07:00That was a beautiful song, Kepler.That was a beautiful song, Kepler.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79127901786932145672008-07-29T06:54:00.000-07:002008-07-29T06:54:00.000-07:00Ray - In your firm grasp of so much nothing, you a...Ray - In your firm grasp of so much nothing, you are missing everything. There is a God...and you are not Him. I know that you want to believe or you wouldn't spend another moment here. So get on with it.NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74759732061389260832008-07-29T06:28:00.000-07:002008-07-29T06:28:00.000-07:00Is anyone going to let Kepler Sings know that evol...Is anyone going to let Kepler Sings know that evolution "poses no problem to the religious view"?Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-41639457020759248412008-07-29T00:10:00.000-07:002008-07-29T00:10:00.000-07:00It is my observation and belief that Darwinism was...It is my observation and belief that Darwinism was specifically ordained to come into view in the earth as preparation for the great spiritual enlightenment, that Christ called the Kingdom of God, others here may see or name it is as something else. <BR/><BR/>There are not a few thinkers, writers of late that sense, or seem to know, that something is coming upon the earth and not just terrible things, but as was said in the film 2010 <B>"Something wonderful is about to happen."</B><BR/><BR/>Put into Biblical terms all creation (that means every angel, human, alien, plant, animal, star, planet and things we cannot even imagine) have waited eagerly for this special time...as Roman's 8 says, "For the revealing of the sons of God." <BR/><BR/>Indeed nearly every good science fiction novel deals with this theme in Romans 8, nearly every fairy tale, in fact hardly any great literary work escapes this theme of Fall...Redemption ...then out of redeemed man the redemption of everything. <BR/><BR/>There is a template imposed upon the universe, as if the very fabric of space-time is warped to this theme. And at this time we have this monstrous philosophy, (among others) a faux-religion, that is in most ways the de-facto religion of Western Civilization. <BR/><BR/>Millions toil to produce book upon book, theory upon theory, masses of "evidence" as if by sheer volume, sheer quantity they can erase what truly is, what must be. <BR/><BR/>The belief in evolution is none other than the continual imposition of the spirit of futility, to which all creation was subjected at the fall of man. <BR/><BR/>And our spiritual awakening, as a whole, will be to throw off this futility, this belief that all is competition, all is ruthless survival. That which is about to be judged, to be damned forever, must first be exposed, to be drawn out into full light, so that those that love God, can see and define the enemy of their minds. <BR/><BR/>Just as birds cannot live if you break them out of the shell, they must fight out of that shell on their own, if you help them they will die. And to be born to a spiritual life, what many here call the vertical man (more complete) there has to be that force, that resistance to push against; that somehow in the wisdom of God...establishes you in that new life. It is a good time to be alive. <BR/><BR/>The belief in evolution is the center of Satanic thought, and if you contemplate upon that idea, you will see such a belief is the only thing that would have allowed a being of such stature, power and intelligence, and direct access to the Creator, to even entertain the idea of mutiny. <BR/><BR/>He must have thought, as only a being who was eternal, not knowing of a beginning for himself...that God was just another being like himself...pulling a fast one on him, ruling over all (In Satan's mind a harsh thing). Even as Satan's initial temptation to Eve was to emphasize the harshness of God's simple command.<BR/><BR/>No wonder we as humans born in time, will forever know that we are CREATED...no angel will ever know it to the depth of their being like one who has been redeemed. The worship of God as our creator is the most sublime, the most wonderful of all relationships. There is no greater relationship than to lean on the arms of your beloved, your creator-redeemer...forever his, forever given, forever in awe of His beauty His grace his utter joy in creating. Those that deny the creator are the most miserable of all things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50822665574626982352008-07-28T22:06:00.000-07:002008-07-28T22:06:00.000-07:00Liztardpsychosomannica bloody lizzy boredomaxeiom ...Liztard<BR/><BR/>psychosomannic<BR/>a bloody lizzy boredom<BR/>axeiom cut offUSS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89506429490296715262008-07-28T21:35:00.000-07:002008-07-28T21:35:00.000-07:00Actually, nearly all the comments today have been ...Actually, nearly all the comments today have been top notch! <BR/><BR/>A great post by Bob (thanks Bob!) and some outstanding, thought-provoking comments for dessert. <BR/><BR/>One Heavenly feast! Good times! Good times!<BR/><BR/>Dienomight! Heh!USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63319973543653253742008-07-28T21:31:00.000-07:002008-07-28T21:31:00.000-07:00"The darwinista's problem is not evolution, which ..."The darwinista's problem is not evolution, which as Gagdad has pointed out many mucho times before, poses no problem to the religious view... the darwinista's problem, and in concert with modernist philosophy in general (which gave rise to them), is a denial of anything that cannot be measured and quantified, and a vicious hatred of anything above their heads."<BR/><BR/>Gee Van, you're in the zOne tonight! :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65990808584258383242008-07-28T20:26:00.000-07:002008-07-28T20:26:00.000-07:00Babba said-"In reality scopes monkey trial 2008 ha...Babba said-<BR/><BR/>"In reality scopes monkey trial 2008 has zero to do with science OR religion. <BR/><BR/>It has to do with who will control the terms and definitions that will populate the premise of life in the minds of what used to be the people of Western Civilization."<BR/><BR/>Aye! The Darwinists want to redefine and control our nation from the bottom up, just like Obama wants.<BR/><BR/>They fail to see or accept that our Founding Fathers created a system of Liberty that can only operate from the top down.<BR/>From Absolute to relative, Above to below, God to man.<BR/><BR/>Our very rights must be absolute and they must come from God.<BR/>If Truth isn't absolute and doesn't come from God then whoever has the power and authority defines what truth is according to their finite understanding and that always results in tyranny and slavery, eating away at our liberty.<BR/><BR/>In other words, they cannot possibly see the self evident truth's our Founding Fathers saw, or that we see, because they take away the very foundation of Truth and superimpose their own version.<BR/><BR/>And that will always lead to chaos, disaster, and slavery.<BR/>In effect it leads back to Egypt.<BR/>Pharoah becomes god and he has nothing but contempt for the Remnant who have Liberty in their hearts and who follow Truth as God defines it. <BR/><BR/>Absolute Truth, Goodness, Beauty, Justice, Love, etc., cannot "evolve".<BR/>But the Pharoah's would evolve the absolute into fluid relativity based (and debased) on their own desires.<BR/><BR/>The cold war isn't over. We have won some major battles, but we can't declare victory...yet. <BR/>It is comforting to gno that Truth will win (and has) once and for all, but until we get there we must continue to fight for our Liberty every day.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.com