tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post5286108857669020924..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Spiritual Indigestion and the Gastronomics of EternityGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10250086562465418562009-01-16T09:07:00.000-08:002009-01-16T09:07:00.000-08:00As has been mentioned, no truth, no matter how pro...As has been mentioned, no truth, no matter how profound, can be stated in such a way, no matter how suffused with absolute clarity, as to not be misunderstood.<BR/><BR/>The more profound the Truth, the more it can be bent into error and even twisted into evil.<BR/><BR/>The more profoundly true (profound meaning extremely deep, deep meaning it touches, connects, integrates into untold numbers of other ideas, beliefs, convictions and dreams), the more easily it can be misinterpreted.<BR/><BR/>And what is even more true, and agonizingly torturous to those who deliberately mislead, who deliberately twist truth into lie and into evil; is that each and every one of those misinterpretations and lies, can form the basis for leading you back to that hallowed and profound truth, with even more clarity, understanding, and shear overwhelming integrations into every aspect of your being than the original conveyor of the truth had anticipated.<BR/><BR/>I seem to have hit a stuffed point. Everything is going in, and has temporarily chocked off the out valve, building pressure... and only this much makes it out, Truth IS, falsehood isn't. All the rest is trying to figure out the shortest path to the same destination.<BR/><BR/>I just realized that when I look at the cross, I subconsciously think of a starburst... as if each of the four tips are tips of an arrow pointing outwards. Perhaps that's wrong. Perhaps they are (or should also be seen as) pointing inwards. Pointing in to that one point where the two axis become One, where two meet, and without being altered, form something new, a third which encompasses them both, which does not exist without them, and yet which does not exist as in the same way as they do, but it does exist, it is true.<BR/><BR/>heh,<BR/>wv:skylesn<BR/>lessons indeed.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37290297512724922702009-01-15T10:28:00.000-08:002009-01-15T10:28:00.000-08:00Take, eat. This is my body. This is my blood. Wo, ...Take, eat. This is my body. This is my blood. Wo, dude. You're freaking me out. No, it's true. This esoteric coonibalism is the transformative principle through which "the naturally unspiritual becomes spiritual by collaboration with a divine inspiration which involves the whole being, acting between soul and spirit and between body and spirit by means of the soul." In short, you must feed your soul and eat a lot of truth and beauty in order to grow the thing that unites time and eternity.<BR/><BR/>Man, that's beutiful, Bob! The entire post is, so it's difficult to find just one part to comment on. Especially when digesting. <BR/>No bellyache here, just sweet contentment and inspiration for a wholotta more of your cookin'. :^)USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38326916452583416752009-01-14T18:52:00.000-08:002009-01-14T18:52:00.000-08:00A Violet punfest here: http://ravingatheist.com/20...A Violet punfest here: http://ravingatheist.com/2009/01/flower-power/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-85201684215925961392009-01-14T18:23:00.000-08:002009-01-14T18:23:00.000-08:00In short, you must feed your soul and eat a lot of...In short, you must feed your soul and eat a lot of truth and beauty in order to grow the thing that unites time and eternity.<BR/><BR/>or as Ab Sheen used to say, " you are what you eat"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79919251857164014782009-01-14T16:44:00.000-08:002009-01-14T16:44:00.000-08:00This, “Take, eat.” Does this not also say, “Die wi...This, “Take, eat.” Does this not also say, “Die with me”?<BR/><BR/>I believe Tomberg suggests in “Lazarus, come forth!” that when Thomas eventually catches on from Jesus the true nature of Lazarus’ sickness, he wants to go “die with him.”Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19723068233892939022009-01-14T16:35:00.000-08:002009-01-14T16:35:00.000-08:00“Take, eat. This is my body. This is my blood. Wo,...“Take, eat. This is my body. This is my blood. Wo, dude. You're freaking me out.”<BR/><BR/>I tell you, this freaked me out as a kid too. Heck, till I was forty I thought it was still a little strange. If you asked me then what I thought about the strangeness I’d say it was unnecessary. Which always bugged me. But it is supposed to shock the system. It’s the only way to break the hardened. Even if only a drip at a time. Maybe there is also another purpose to the strangeness. To protect it from the irreverent.<BR/><BR/>Now if there’s one thing about the Lord, he’s right there on the front lines; in the trenches. He doesn’t ask you to do something he hasn’t done himself. When he says, “This is my body. This is my blood.” Is he not saying, “This is my matter, my person, the world, the horizontal. This is my spirit, my movement, that which propels my body, the vertical.” = These things which constitute my whole I maintain in balance. “Take, eat.” = Now you do it, and live.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1849019135176900382009-01-14T14:07:00.000-08:002009-01-14T14:07:00.000-08:00Very interesting - I'm impressed you managed to ge...Very interesting - I'm impressed you managed to get that all in (despite not having 1,000 pages to work with). <BR/><BR/>I find it interesting how so often Christianity wavers between the poles of world and spirit - often we glimpse that cross at the moment of surrender and then fight to regain our bearings. That is bear your cross and follow Me. Otherwise we have a hatred of the world and the flesh and then a reemergence (especially "Heaven" by Randy Alcorn) of the knowledge that our flesh is a key part of who we are. <BR/><BR/>As you correctly point out the infinite will "take care of itself" the redemption has to occur with us and that part of us (and all of creation) which needs to be redeemed. I'm sure for many we confuse the inability to look beyond the horizontal as believing everything that exists horizontally must therefore be bad and unworthy of redemption. In a way that is correct - failing to recognize that the very point of redemption is to redeem that which is unworthy.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115490652834675266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3592478372936070672009-01-14T12:36:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:36:00.000-08:00That was fascinating. He didn't need the shirt to ...That was fascinating. He didn't need the shirt to speak for him, though - you could see it in the way he paused a couple times toward the beginning, to grab hold of the firehOse and take it for a joyride.<BR/><BR/>Mastery in motion is always a pleasure to watch.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-8466885913652023622009-01-14T12:12:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:12:00.000-08:00Great post. Now take a break, Bob, and watch a nic...Great post. Now take a break, Bob, and watch a nice solo by a guy with a cool shirt:<BR/><BR/>http://gc.guitarcenter.com/drum-off-2008/news/?source=4TP9ACAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-52901869059732006432009-01-14T12:07:00.000-08:002009-01-14T12:07:00.000-08:00In other words, the soul isn't static; it is alway...<I>In other words, the soul isn't static; it is always either moving "toward" or "away" from God.</I><BR/><BR/>Anyone familiar with the Wii Fit knows the difficulty in shifting and maintaining balance. ;-)robinstarfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15665546554663005609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-70263215891896916162009-01-14T11:42:00.000-08:002009-01-14T11:42:00.000-08:00It's helpful to note that the dispersive elements ...It's helpful to note that the dispersive elements that Bob speaks of (material avarice, various appetites and lusts, etc) are not generated by people. <BR/><BR/>These are implanted urges. The take home is that people are not to blame for their own impulses, but only on how they express these impulses.<BR/><BR/>God is responsible for the existence of the bad impulses; He must be forgiven or at least understood as to why he has placed each of us on the cross to suffer, so to speak.<BR/><BR/>It is for the greater glory; the trials of your life are there to make you, not to break you, as NVP once noted.<BR/><BR/>Mercy on sinners, for they know not what they do. Or, mercy on sinners if they know what they do, but don't have the discipline to stop it.<BR/><BR/>This makes discipline an important spiritual quality. <BR/><BR/>I would then say that discipline is of the essence. To aquire it or bolster it should be the first goal of all people.<BR/><BR/>The natural appetites must be mastered. That has to be step 1.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7286265162407557142009-01-14T11:17:00.000-08:002009-01-14T11:17:00.000-08:00Vertigo -- it's not just a movie.Vertigo -- it's not just a movie.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71376515888051789492009-01-14T09:53:00.000-08:002009-01-14T09:53:00.000-08:00Definitely not for the squeamish...take, eat.(sorr...Definitely not for the squeamish...<A HREF="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/59566.html" REL="nofollow">take, eat</A>.<BR/><BR/>(sorry)NoMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01100042056270224683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40973476469990023452009-01-14T09:04:00.000-08:002009-01-14T09:04:00.000-08:00I've absolutely nothing intelligent to add, I'm ju...I've absolutely nothing intelligent to add, I'm just noting that wv thinks you're a unityr and not a dividyr, Bob. Or something.<BR/><BR/>Back to digesting...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72623396826189063262009-01-14T08:55:00.000-08:002009-01-14T08:55:00.000-08:00Bob, it appears you are ready for reentry in Catho...Bob, it appears you are ready for reentry in Catholicism. Congratulations; it is a good path.<BR/><BR/>I also observe that everything in your post easily translates/harmonizes to the Mother's teaching regarding the Psychic Being (i.e, the permanant personal soul that grows and progresses using intervals of death between life); this renders the essence of the sermon accessible to people who don't live in the intellect so much.<BR/><BR/>There is only one correct choice/path, total surrender to the Divine, including the flesh you wear; everything else is just meandering and messing around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-81058303218341959642009-01-14T08:48:00.000-08:002009-01-14T08:48:00.000-08:00The comment was about Deepak not Bob's post.The comment was about Deepak not Bob's post.Aloysiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858618410784962169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74258717006662178062009-01-14T08:47:00.000-08:002009-01-14T08:47:00.000-08:00Carryover from a late comment on yesterdays post a...Carryover from a late comment on yesterdays post about Deepak Chopra:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2009/01/12/an_alternative_prescription_from_chopra_roy_and_weil.php" REL="nofollow">an absolute firehose of nonsense</A>Aloysiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13858618410784962169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61586481447232271032009-01-14T08:41:00.000-08:002009-01-14T08:41:00.000-08:00Wow. Great stuff. Loving it. And one question rema...Wow. Great stuff. Loving it. And one question remains - although, it may go unanswered - when are you coming into the Church, Bob? I think, in my humble opinion, that you're already there spiritually, but what about physically? <BR/><BR/><BR/>wv: pillue - the Queen's pillow?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com