tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post4015676816388153230..comments2024-03-28T20:04:20.286-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Have You Heard the One About the Snake & the Lass?Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84046292249212281342013-01-15T07:23:01.462-08:002013-01-15T07:23:01.462-08:00Not really, although there's some inevitable o...Not really, although there's some inevitable overlap.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-81623775595754908432013-01-15T03:57:45.941-08:002013-01-15T03:57:45.941-08:00Bob --
Are you wandering into Julian Jaynes terri...Bob --<br /><br />Are you wandering into Julian Jaynes territory?<br /><br />CliffUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16608065233086415957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-40167417490329874122013-01-14T23:48:37.589-08:002013-01-14T23:48:37.589-08:00recalls this:
THE MOUNTAINEER
Consciousness ...recalls this:<br /><br /><i>THE MOUNTAINEER<br /><br /> Consciousness is a symptom of disease.<br /> All that moves well moves without will.<br /> All skillfulness, all strain, all intention is contrary to<br /> ease.<br /> Practise a thousand times, and it becomes difficult;<br /> a thousand thousand, and it becomes easy; a<br /> thousand thousand times a thousand thousand,<br /> and it is no longer Thou that doeth it, but It that<br /> doeth itself through thee. Not until then is that<br /> which is done well done.<br /> Thus spoke FRATER PERDURABO as he leapt<br /> from rock to rock of the moraine without ever<br /> casting his eyes upon the ground.<br /><br /></i> -BOOK OF LIES OF 666gehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1726817431852483342013-01-14T20:32:09.216-08:002013-01-14T20:32:09.216-08:00Development or skill can pretty much be defined by...Development or skill can pretty much be defined by rendering unconscious what was once conscious. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-2871688577858056672013-01-14T19:52:31.934-08:002013-01-14T19:52:31.934-08:00From Mushroom's article:
"And indeed, th...From Mushroom's article:<br /><br />"And indeed, this is starting to happen. As the early results of scientific brain experiments are showing, our minds appear to be making decisions before we're actually aware of them — and at times by a significant degree. It's a disturbing observation that has led some neuroscientists to conclude that we're less in control of our choices than we think — at least as far as some basic movements and tasks are concerned."<br /><br />Well, yeah.<br /><br />I agree with this.<br /><br />In fact, I call it "autopilot". <br /><br />I just let the mental autosystems do whatever they want to do because I'm bored, disengaged, interested in thinking about something else.<br /><br />Free will is about making decisions that matter, not about standard-issue brain body stuff.<br /><br />99% of what I do all day doesn't require much in the way of free will, except that I'm choosing to go to work and do work.<br /><br />I *could* choose to stay home.<br /><br />They're Missing the Point.<br /><br />Which is to be expected.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-59737052007426175912013-01-14T19:23:15.426-08:002013-01-14T19:23:15.426-08:00This kind of goes along with what we're talkin...<a href="http://io9.com/5975778/scientific-evidence-that-you-probably-dont-have-free-will" rel="nofollow">This kind of goes along with what we're talking about</a>. Especially the way they are investigating it. They seem to be saying that you can't have free will because you are making decisions before you are aware of it. <br /><br />That doesn't surprise me at all, and it seems extremely unconvincing as evidence. Your conscious mind is always playing catch-up. Nice of science to drop by the real world now and then.<br /><br />But I guess those researchers just can't help themselves.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-56857088167821501952013-01-14T18:22:51.993-08:002013-01-14T18:22:51.993-08:00Speaking of eyes and ears, I'm still way back ...Speaking of eyes and ears, I'm still way back in the Guissani, and this little bit came to light tonight:<br /><br /><i>The world is a parable. "I speak in parables so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not hear."</i>juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76247598663881329952013-01-14T17:17:27.879-08:002013-01-14T17:17:27.879-08:00Humming at the speed of light...I like it, ge.
Un...Humming at the speed of light...I like it, ge. <br />Unlike jest the left brain which has only warped speed.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55260894761802478772013-01-14T17:13:59.020-08:002013-01-14T17:13:59.020-08:00But in Genesis 3:6, Eve can't help noticing th...But in Genesis 3:6, Eve can't help noticing that the forbidden tree is easy on the eyes, meaning that she has transitioned from ear to eye and right to left. Indeed, immediately thereafter we read that the eyes of both of them were opened. Adam and Eve suddenly see that they are naked, and -- just as in the developing child -- feel shame."<br /><br />So Eve and then Adam foresook the Newtritious ear candy for the empty calorie eye candy (one could say parasitic since the eye candy feeds on ones very soul, I reckon).<br /><br />Or, in modern vernacular, they chose the kosmic zero bar which the left brain zeroes in on.<br /><br />Excellent posts Bob. They make my left brain hurt, though. :^)<br /><br />USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-19050930658161160902013-01-14T14:55:32.996-08:002013-01-14T14:55:32.996-08:00Nicely done, ge.Nicely done, ge.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-81790604392708926612013-01-14T14:24:48.745-08:002013-01-14T14:24:48.745-08:00Inside my skull is not a 2-hemisphered moist mass ...Inside my skull is not a 2-hemisphered moist mass of squishy grey-white sausage...but a polished mirror shaped like the Sun set pearl-like in a gyroid bed of skyblue pure space<br />humming at the speed of lightgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02015936407999495181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11204419449946171322013-01-14T13:13:45.816-08:002013-01-14T13:13:45.816-08:00"Interesting, because that touches on Sachs&#..."Interesting, because that touches on Sachs' interpretation, that Eve is more of a real person to Adam subsequent to the fall -- she goes from being an anonymous part of Adam to having her own identity."<br /><br />Maybe God looked into the celestial mirror and said to himself, "Wow! that Maya is smokin' hot!" <br /><br />Or Logos saw Sophia.<br /><br />Or Adam saw Eve. And we *know* that they had a falling out. Or at least a fall.<br /><br />And anyhow, when you create something you create it's opposite.<br /><br />The left brain is the *opposite* of the right brain. But you can't *have* a left brain without a right brain. Huh?<br /><br />This is where the entire "Twin Soul" concepts resides, mathematically.<br /><br />Hey, if there's a "me" and you can't create a "me" without a "not-me". Uh. <br /><br />You see this in physics with the matter-antimatter issue. <br /><br />"Hey, where did all the anti-matter go?"JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25534321784965954362013-01-14T12:40:35.487-08:002013-01-14T12:40:35.487-08:00"Just so: the price of eating from the tree o..."Just so: the price of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil is indeed death, just as God says.<br /><br />Note that he says we will die if we eat from it, which is to say, assimilate it."<br /><br />There's a nice description of the Tenured ones.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38075752867630593142013-01-14T12:30:11.981-08:002013-01-14T12:30:11.981-08:00For example, modern science places a sharp tempora...<i>For example, modern science places a sharp temporal division in the cosmos, and tells us that on one side is dead matter, the other side "life" (whatever that is). Life wasn't present for the first five billion years or so of cosmic evolution, and then it suddenly pops up out of nowhere (BOO!). </i><br /><br />Apropos, see also the last 3 or 4 paragraphs of <a href="http://funglejungle.blogspot.com/2013/01/why-am-i-so-miserable.html" rel="nofollow">Mushroom's post today</a> (and my comment, which is really HvB's)...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57642090599048684202013-01-14T12:27:00.873-08:002013-01-14T12:27:00.873-08:00Love it: feminism is the new creationism.Love it: <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323596204578241691461160054.html" rel="nofollow">feminism is the new creationism</a>.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-64558654479254268542013-01-14T11:56:19.399-08:002013-01-14T11:56:19.399-08:00Before the Fall and even before Eve, God brings al...Before the Fall and even before Eve, God brings all the animals by and has Adam name them: <i>...whatever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.</i><br /><br />We would consider left-brain language activity, but I don't think Adam is just attaching labels. He is seeing and identifying essence. Like seeing a bee and knowing that it is necessary for pollination. <br /><br />This is why the narrative then relates that none were suitable companions for Adam (seriously, thank God), so the Lord brings Eve along -- out of Adam rather "out of the ground".mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37887565811186624022013-01-14T11:49:18.197-08:002013-01-14T11:49:18.197-08:00"she goes from being an anonymous part of Ada..."she goes from being an anonymous part of Adam to having her own identity."<br /><br />Yes, the Fall has more to do with the seperation of the "hemispheres" and the physical seperation into male and female human forms was more of a by-product or would that be bi-product.son of a preacher manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17055448926930885913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13289796343290449482013-01-14T10:49:13.266-08:002013-01-14T10:49:13.266-08:00yep
here's an interesting description: http:/...yep<br /><br />here's an interesting description: http://www.torah.org/learning/olas-shabbos/5759/bereishis.html#<br />Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84988902093768056082013-01-14T10:44:41.090-08:002013-01-14T10:44:41.090-08:00It's like the left brain is the laser beam tha...It's like the left brain is the laser beam that focuses on the right in order to read out a particular stream of info.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38512461395976355152013-01-14T10:43:30.880-08:002013-01-14T10:43:30.880-08:00Since scripture is a quintessentially right brain ...Since scripture is a quintessentially right brain communication, it is holographic and therefore susceptible to multiple interpretations. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76613605273097259522013-01-14T10:41:41.373-08:002013-01-14T10:41:41.373-08:00intuition, innertuition
I'm liking this a lot...intuition, innertuition<br /><br />I'm liking this a lot<br /><br />I thought "knowledge of good and evil" in Hebrew referred to the legal status of a man able to decide something on behalf of a minor - so eating of it without permission would be to rebel and claim that higher status for one's own, wrongly<br /><br />but this left/right stuff is really intriguingTonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76762303364932511932013-01-14T10:36:54.795-08:002013-01-14T10:36:54.795-08:00Also, Sachs makes it clear how cautious we must be...Also, Sachs makes it clear how cautious we must be just by virtue of going from Hebrew, which is a right brain language (for which reason it is read from right to left), to Greek, which is a left brain language. Certain Hebrew ideas are extremely difficult if not impossible to render in Greek.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4586368651959220482013-01-14T10:21:58.484-08:002013-01-14T10:21:58.484-08:00Hey, I've been poking around Genesis lately to...Hey, I've been poking around Genesis lately too.<br /><br />Recent discoveries being that as God says, "...you will die <i>if</i> you eat from it" this appears to be the moment that free will is gifted, and is therefore before the choice/fall takes place. God knows this was ineveeatapple. Careful what you love.<br /><br />Also, notice how the tree of good and evil is a single tree bifurcated, rather than two separate trees. Visually the branches of the tree perhaps symmetrical (in a perfect or archetypal tree) is like the nervous system separated, "growing up" in to two branches of the one brain. This also suggests that good and evil did co-arise. And that the tree of life "in the other hand" is one tree with no division.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-91601604733921374392013-01-14T10:12:15.179-08:002013-01-14T10:12:15.179-08:00i.e. from right brain fusion to left brain separat...i.e. from right brain fusion to left brain separation and individuation... Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-73400500765382274362013-01-14T10:06:34.680-08:002013-01-14T10:06:34.680-08:00Okay, but I'm guessing it's the same lady....Okay, but I'm guessing it's the same lady.<br /><br />Interesting, because that touches on Sachs' interpretation, that Eve is more of a real person to Adam subsequent to the fall -- she goes from being an anonymous part of Adam to having her own identity.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.com