tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post3909965284566933849..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: How Blind Lizards Make Nonsense of Darwinist ClaimsGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger152125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-62408109356754797932008-08-10T08:00:00.000-07:002008-08-10T08:00:00.000-07:00"...but can also be costly in the time required fo..."...but can also be costly in the time required for information processing, in making mistakes, and in ignoring successful behaviors winnowed by tradition that work without anyone knowing why they work."<BR/><BR/>Duhhh...maybe the public schools just need more money pumped in and more God pumped out. <BR/><BR/>And maybe the government will do a better job making our medical choices for us than it has making our educational choices for us. <BR/><BR/>And maybe marxism will work here, even though it's resulted in nothing but horrific oppression everywhere else in the world. <BR/><BR/>The difference will be that *we* would be "nuanced," beneficent rulers.<BR/><BR/>*******<BR/><BR/>Bob says:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXMQ0XEIG0Y<BR/><BR/>Ray replies:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--szrOHtR6USusannahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16381272662339466736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-287256766201941262008-08-09T10:21:00.000-07:002008-08-09T10:21:00.000-07:00Q - You can change your IP Address. Just google i...Q - You can change your IP Address. Just google it and learn how.<BR/><BR/>But why bother? We know of the lies and the altering of comments, Queeg's own as well as various commenters, the vile hate speech against anyone of faith which he has both engaged in and allowed on his blog.<BR/><BR/>It's not worth the bother anymore. It has transformed from what was once a fairly decent aggregator of news of the war and the Middle East into an echo chamber of G-d hate. Queeg has destroyed his own blog, his own livelihood. He has made his bed with liars, name-callers, vicious haters, satanists, pagans, etc ... let him "lie" in it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86892275901919515432008-08-09T08:33:00.000-07:002008-08-09T08:33:00.000-07:00Actually, Hoarhey, you're right. I promised not to...Actually, Hoarhey, you're right. I promised not to debate evidence for evolution <I>per se</I> here, but I gave in to temptation w/Kepler. I'll try harder in the future, mea culpa.Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-57481943152525633342008-08-08T21:11:00.000-07:002008-08-08T21:11:00.000-07:00Lying LizardsTry this again. Sorry.<A HREF="http://onecosmosatsea.blogspot.com/2008/08/lying-lizards.html" REL="nofollow">Lying Lizards</A><BR/><BR/>Try this again. Sorry.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-35380025967598250512008-08-08T21:08:00.001-07:002008-08-08T21:08:00.001-07:00Q-burn,Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that you're not a j...Q-burn,<BR/><BR/>Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE that you're not a jihadist mole? That crawler shit sounds awfully suspect. ;*)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54387054948714280272008-08-08T21:08:00.000-07:002008-08-08T21:08:00.000-07:00Q-Burn-Aye! Charles is a liar, and anyone who both...Q-Burn-<BR/>Aye! Charles is a liar, and anyone who bothers to do their own research instead of taking his word for everything would know that. <BR/><BR/>He even claimed you had 11 sock puppets at LGF.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe him because he lied about Mama winger, and he's using A. Van Hilten and others to monitor any Lizard or prior Lizard comments on other blogs, and banning them arbitrarily.<BR/><BR/>I covered some of his underhanded antics here at my blog:<BR/>>a href="http://onecosmosatsea.blogspot.com/2008/08/lying-lizards.html">Lying Lizards>/a><BR/><BR/>Charles has repeatedly lies and deceives and then shifts the focus to himself by crying that he is a victim in all this.<BR/><BR/>Queeg is, literally, an unhinged malignant narcissist.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-32894742972197523092008-08-08T21:05:00.000-07:002008-08-08T21:05:00.000-07:00Dang it Bob. Where I come from, potting birds on t...Dang it Bob. Where I come from, potting birds on the ground is considered unsporting.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407227131967810346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58196713116629741752008-08-08T20:39:00.000-07:002008-08-08T20:39:00.000-07:00Well, the Queeg chronicles have taken a truly biza...Well, the Queeg chronicles have taken a truly bizarre turn for me. This afternoon I heard that some friends were being discussed on that Obama-Antichrist thread. I cut and pasted some of the comments and sent them to one of those people via e-mail. Then I went to run some errands. When I got back, I found out Charles said this about me:<BR/><BR/>It gets even creepier, folks.<BR/>I just noticed a certain IP that was trying to download everything in this thread with some kind of automated tool. Turns out that the IP belongs to banned poster "Q-Burn."<BR/><BR/>Well Charles, if by "everything" you mean "some comments", and by "automated tool" you mean "cut and paste" combined with "e-mail", this is absolutely true. Otherwise, you're a fucking liar.<BR/><BR/>And then someone sent me this:<BR/><BR/>#855 Charles 8/08/08 3:36:24 pm <BR/>That's why the online visitor count is so high right now. It's all the hits from whatever crawler Q-Burn was using. It should start going down in a few minutes as those sessions expire.<BR/><BR/>Charles, you're a fucking liar. I wouldn't know a "crawler" if it bit me. And my visitor count amounted to "one" at its highest. <BR/><BR/>There are probably plenty more lies, but I can't tell for sure because when I try to access LGF I get this:<BR/><BR/>Forbidden<BR/><BR/>You don't have permission to access /weblog/ on this server.<BR/><BR/>Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.<BR/><BR/>Apache/1.3.41 Server at littlegreenfootballs.com Port 80<BR/><BR/>So apparently Charles has blocked my IP. Just wanted to set the record straight. We unhinge, you decide. <BR/><BR/>Q-BurnAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-11801869612095119922008-08-08T19:14:00.000-07:002008-08-08T19:14:00.000-07:00Like I said, run of the mill baiter.Like I said, run of the mill baiter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55734601951213840922008-08-08T18:41:00.000-07:002008-08-08T18:41:00.000-07:00Kepler - That was, indeed, a shotgun approach. Lot...Kepler - That was, indeed, a shotgun approach. Lots of different innuendoes, not so much on the support.<BR/><BR/>For example, you ignored the emphasis on the word "big". Moose and Elk top out at a little over a thousand pounds. Mastodons weighed up to twenty times that... and couldn't run as fast as a moose or elk. Saber-tooths weren't built for speed, they were built to be strong and powerful quick-kill specialists. They could outrun something the size of an elephant, not smaller animals.<BR/><BR/>As to the hoaxes that get mentioned from time to time - who was it who uncovered the deception? Creationists, or scientists doing science?<BR/><BR/>As to the paragraph starting with "Course the large predators"... well, sorry, I can't even tease out what you're trying to say there. Whales didn't arise until well after the Jurassic - we have some <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_cetaceans" REL="nofollow">really good fossils</A> of their development.<BR/><BR/>(If you're going to dispute the dating of fossils, I have a question for you. How come oil companies, who spend tens of billions of dollars a year on oil exploration, exclusively use conventional geology? Only <A HREF="http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/01/let-there-be-light-crude.html" REL="nofollow">con men</A> seem to be able to make money with young-Earth geology. Why is that?)Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72070030890608234942008-08-08T18:32:00.000-07:002008-08-08T18:32:00.000-07:00The last line of the review (which, btw, is more i...The last line of the review (which, btw, is more interesting than the entire first page of that book. That's supposed to be chick-lit? It's only allowed to be that bad if there's going to be all kinds of crazy shagging going on. And if that much time is spent on a dude coming home to his cat, there may be all kinds of crazy shagging, but it won't be the kind most women want to read about):<BR/><BR/>"All in all, it's like a sexually-frustrated sasquatch making snow-cones with a water-ski."<BR/><BR/>It took me a minute, but the mental picture conjured up is truly hilarious.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74950095249123840972008-08-08T18:01:00.000-07:002008-08-08T18:01:00.000-07:00And this is kinda funny: now we got Darweenies say...And this is kinda funny: now we got Darweenies sayin' that complexity actually means that there is no intelligent design 'cause there's no one intelligemnt enough to create something so complex.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.evolutionnews.org/2008/08/new_scientist_thinks_complexit.html" REL="nofollow">Complexity Equals No Intelligence?</A><BR/><BR/>Man, that's just plain dumb.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-37418172633391949152008-08-08T17:50:00.000-07:002008-08-08T17:50:00.000-07:00And this was also interesting, from the same artic...And this was also interesting, from the same article, and I believe this is what Joan is talking about (correct me if I'm wrong, Joan):<BR/><BR/>"Hitchens, Dawkins and Carroll can have all the evidence they want that the neo-Darwinian mechanism can mess things up, turn genes off, and cause "loss-of-function." No one on any side of this debate doubts that random mutations are quite good at destroying complex features. Us folks on the ID side suspect that random mutation and natural selection aren’t good at doing very much more than that. And the constant citations by Darwinists of "loss of function" examples as alleged refutations of ID only strengthens our argument. <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, ID proponents seek to explain a far more interesting aspect of biological history: the origin of new complex biological features. Despite his quotation of Michael Shermer on the evolution of the eye, Hitchens has yet to do that."USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-51541190038325994972008-08-08T17:47:00.000-07:002008-08-08T17:47:00.000-07:00From the DI site:" In his debate against Jay Wesle...From the DI site:<BR/>" In his debate against Jay Wesley Richards, Hitchens reportedly argued against God by alleging that God would not create certain features we observe, to which Richards aptly replied, "A sneer is not an argument." Unfortunately, Hitchens is still using sneers as arguments. What’s more, it now seems that it is Hitchens who prefers myths about caves."<BR/><BR/>The sneer is the Darwinian Reductionists greatest weapon.<BR/>They give evolution a bad name.USS Ben USN (Ret)https://www.blogger.com/profile/07492369604790651538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12107465736419177102008-08-08T17:43:00.000-07:002008-08-08T17:43:00.000-07:00Ace reviews the first page of James Wolcott's drea...Ace reviews the first page of James Wolcott's <A HREF="http://ace.mu.nu/archives/179712.php" REL="nofollow">dreadful novel</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76617620195927759422008-08-08T16:55:00.000-07:002008-08-08T16:55:00.000-07:00Probably not, since any rational alternative would...Probably not, since any rational alternative would still be, well, rational.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-34902610074404067082008-08-08T16:46:00.001-07:002008-08-08T16:46:00.001-07:00Makes you wonder if anyone would believe it if the...Makes you wonder if anyone would believe it if there were any other rational alternative but the Divine Intellect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-68889582717170285402008-08-08T16:46:00.000-07:002008-08-08T16:46:00.000-07:00Mr. Time-Life Diorama of man becoming apes, ::snor...<I>Mr. Time-Life Diorama of man becoming apes, </I><BR/><BR/>::snort!::<BR/><BR/>You know, Ray deserves that. He's found a few comrades in today's thread and he's getting downright <I>uppity</I> with Julie.<BR/><BR/>Now Julie needs none to defend her fine mind and lucid arguments, but it's just that... it's Bob's blog, but... maybe, guys, it's time to take the tiresome turd out back for a little Raccoon Reckonin'.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'...Joan of Argghh!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14729682908266300507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-36466006834375712732008-08-08T16:43:00.000-07:002008-08-08T16:43:00.000-07:00ow, that was what we call a shotgunning. Incendiar...ow, that was what we call a shotgunning. Incendiary rounds.Ephrem Antony Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00032465992619034619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-85836562553573013062008-08-08T15:58:00.000-07:002008-08-08T15:58:00.000-07:00Ray regurgitated from some dusty evolution tome th...Ray regurgitated from some dusty evolution tome the following conclusions "on faith!"<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>Saber-toothed types are good for taking down big prey, and are found in conjunction with large herbivores, e.g. Mastodons and such. They aren't cost-efficient when hunting smaller prey.</I><BR/><BR/>You mean like Moose and Elk you teakwood dense sycophant spouter of Darwinian imaginations? Yeah,I suppose those would just be appetizers.<BR/><BR/><I>If the big herbivores go extinct (which they do from time to time) the saber-toothed types die off, too. </I> <BR/><BR/>I get it Mr. Time-Life Diorama of man becoming apes, or a past believer in such ABSOLUTE PROOF OF EVOLUTION LIKE: <BR/><BR/><I>Nebraska man was going to be used as proof of evolution in the 1925 trial in Dayton, Tenn. Later it was discovered that the entire “man” had been scientifically built from one pig’s tooth. <BR/><BR/>Piltdown man was an ape’s jaw filed down to fit a human skull as a deliberate fraud. Neanderthal man was just an old man with arthritis.</I><BR/><BR/>Course the large predators dying off when the large herbivores or other species that may NOT be herbivores but are still really, really big like Whales, what happened to the great predators of the sea? We know they existed but went extinct, plenty of Whales around. Or maybe this was when Whales had legs and were skateboarding around the swamps, soon as toothy lizard thing with long necks died off, they dropped their skateboards, and legs and grew fins...all working out pretty happily I guess. And on it goes with the theory of Gumby that can assume any shape, answer any question about what happened millions of years ago. <BR/><BR/><I>The last Smilodons and Mastodons disappeared roughly around the time humans made it into the Americas. <B>Many believe</B> this wasn't a coincidence. </I> <BR/><BR/>Yes, yes, proudly recite some Darwinian nostrums, replete with faux-facts, all happy in your nerd-world of dead bones, and distorted facts, I-will-join-you-as-soon-as-I-get-<BR/>away-from-this-Scientology-cult.<BR/><BR/>Does it escape your notice when you throw out these utter speculations of saber tooth tigers and Mastodons disappearing (maybe because primitive man hunted them to extinction) we still have cougars, bears, etc and there are far more humans with far deadlier weapons, now? <BR/><BR/>It is like Evolution is the thesis of the feces...if you throw enough B.S. at the wall, some is bound to stick. No scientific discipline does this...NONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58982569072348466952008-08-08T15:43:00.000-07:002008-08-08T15:43:00.000-07:00That's why we depend on you, Ray. Without your bri...That's why we depend on <I>you</I>, Ray. Without your brilliant insights, I'd be pretty sure that Bob had already explained the position a time or two before, somewhere in the thousand-plus posts, and thus didn't feel the need to spell out the humor. <BR/><BR/>But now I realize I couldn't possibly have learned where he was coming from (since this blog isn't <I>educational</I>), and I understand that the joke is retroactively unfunny.<BR/><BR/>Thank you, Ray, for that little nugget of clarity.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-43111502815587885192008-08-08T15:18:00.000-07:002008-08-08T15:18:00.000-07:00Ray provides a summary of his s'plainin':"I'm sure...Ray provides a summary of his s'plainin':<BR/><BR/><I>"I'm sure it has amusement value, but little educational value."</I>walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-55113102630326963262008-08-08T15:12:00.000-07:002008-08-08T15:12:00.000-07:00Julie - If you're going to make fun of an opponent...Julie - If you're going to make fun of an opponent's position, you have to include the actual position somewhere. Otherwise you're just mocking strawmen. I'm sure it has amusement value, but little educational value.Ray Ingleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16290483120987779339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-46586752027485284542008-08-08T14:59:00.000-07:002008-08-08T14:59:00.000-07:00Mr. Cocytus says:"If they knew this distinction (w...Mr. Cocytus says:<BR/><BR/>"If they knew this distinction (which is scriptural) they would understand that arguing about eyes is pointless. What point there is, is to be holy and know God.<BR/><BR/>All else - on the scale of things which matter eternally, and of first things as well - is either gilding or dross."<BR/><BR/>Well, that is certainly well outside of Ray's metaphysic.<BR/><BR/>I know the appropriate Raysponse! <BR/><BR/>Mu!<BR/><BR/>Wait. <BR/><BR/>You didn't ask a question. That was an answer.<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm.<BR/><BR/>Nope, the answer is still Mu!jphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05908157207748014622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65227418587870907922008-08-08T13:57:00.000-07:002008-08-08T13:57:00.000-07:00Golly, Ray, I don't know if I could have figured t...Golly, Ray, I don't know if I could have figured <I>that</I> one out.<BR/><BR/>Your programmer didn't give you much of a funnybone directive, did he.<BR/><BR/>Pity, that.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.com