tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post3803199278321454499..comments2024-03-18T19:37:21.040-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Darwin was Not a DarwinianGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-8546152183819894042009-02-01T08:26:00.000-08:002009-02-01T08:26:00.000-08:00"unless he watches "Queer Eye For the Straight Fly..."unless he watches "Queer Eye For the Straight Fly")"<BR/><BR/>(that was my ISS Splorf for the morning)Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-68712701442824713202009-02-01T08:22:00.000-08:002009-02-01T08:22:00.000-08:00aninnymouse said "<(if you feel the urge t...aninnymouse said "<(if you feel the urge to respond, insert your name here)>"<BR/><BR/><B>VAN</B><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>wv:oubamsag<BR/>so many ways to parse that.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-81766859263348186632009-02-01T08:14:00.000-08:002009-02-01T08:14:00.000-08:00"Man is intelligence, just as he is beauty. For th..."Man is intelligence, just as he is beauty. For this reason, no normal person sets out to love ugliness or know error. Just as good character involves distinguishing between good and evil and willing the former, <B>the virtue of intelligence is its intrinsic love of truth.</B>"<BR/><BR/>If a real <I>Uni</I>versity is ever built again, right next to "Know Thyself", it needs to have engraved "<B>The virtue of intelligence is its intrinsic love of truth.</B>".Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-26415692600702156672009-02-01T08:07:00.000-08:002009-02-01T08:07:00.000-08:00"natural selection can have no bearing on the orig..."natural selection can have no bearing on the origin of life, since natural selection by definition requires living organisms to select."<BR/><BR/><I>Oh sure... resort to logic, take an unfair advantage over us materialists, the stronger over the weaker, as if the fittest will survive, but we materialists will prevail because we believe...<BR/><BR/>uh-oh...<BR/><BR/>wait a minute....<BR/><BR/>somethings going wrong here....<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>mommy!</I>Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72509801223342447852009-01-31T21:09:00.000-08:002009-01-31T21:09:00.000-08:00Too bad, anon. That would have been a fair to midd...Too bad, anon. That would have been a fair to middling clever bit of trolling, but you spoiled it with the gratuitous insult.<BR/><BR/>JWMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61707153632703804232009-01-31T17:23:00.000-08:002009-01-31T17:23:00.000-08:00Aquila said it first, and I second it, kinda:"...Aquila said it first, and I second it, kinda:<BR/><BR/>"I post over at OC under a different name. Although I often enjoy the exchanges and learn a lot from them, the one-note doomsaying tone of much of the dialogue, as well as the domination of posted themes by near-Aspergers-types like <<I>(if you feel the urge to respond, insert your name here)</I>>, make the experience increasingly not worth the time or effort invested."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Yahh, but you still become what you hate, and who can avert their eyes from a train wreck? Look at Bob, 20-what years ago? Care to speculate on Bob what, 5 years yon?<BR/><BR/>wv: addint. Yea right. That's how we got here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-10248506874104940782009-01-31T16:38:00.000-08:002009-01-31T16:38:00.000-08:00Elvis Costello (All This Useless Beauty):Nonsense ...Elvis Costello (<I>All This Useless Beauty</I>):<BR/><BR/><I>Nonsense prevails, modesty fails<BR/>Grace and virtue turn into stupidity<BR/>While the calendar fades almost all barricades to a pale compromise<BR/>And our leaders have feasts on the backsides of beasts<BR/>They still think theyre the gods of antiquity<BR/>If something you missed didn't even exist<BR/>It was just an ideal -- is it such a surprise? <BR/><BR/>What shall we do, what shall we do with all this useless beauty? <BR/>All this useless beauty</I><BR/><BR/>http://www.lyricsfreak.com/e/elvis+costello/all+this+useless+beauty_20047267.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14461079899294390722009-01-31T16:31:00.000-08:002009-01-31T16:31:00.000-08:00Northern Bandit: Actually, I've been under the opp...Northern Bandit: Actually, I've been under the opposite impression re LGF. Of late, Chaz seems to be stepping up the Darwinist threads, as well as obsessing about that Holocaust-denying Traditionalist Catholic bishop. I suppose with the Iraq war pretty much over, and Obama treading relatively lightly in his first days as POTUS, the "middlebrow neocons" there haven't much else to bitch about in their rather limited range of concerns.<BR/><BR/>I post over at LGF under a different name. Although I often enjoy the exchanges and learn a lot from them, the one-note doomsaying tone of much of the dialogue, as well as the domination of posted themes by near-Aspergers-types like Killgore Trout, make the experience increasingly not worth the time or effort invested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-58384961354357389782009-01-31T15:41:00.000-08:002009-01-31T15:41:00.000-08:00I recall Joe Campbell quoting someone and i forgot...I recall Joe Campbell quoting someone and i forgot who....Religion is a defense against a religious experience.<BR/><BR/> Seems to me it fits perfectly to someone who has a DUTY to explain away beauty.<BR/><BR/>SteveHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28002576884060493892009-01-31T14:37:00.000-08:002009-01-31T14:37:00.000-08:00At the risk of prompting some trollish ridicule, I...At the risk of prompting some trollish ridicule, I'll give words to a notion that occurs to me almost every day. And I held this notion long before I started hanging around here. Long before I even had a computer. <BR/>I can see God in a banana.<BR/>No, really.<BR/>I mean- think of the astonishingly complicated combination of sugars, starches,oils, esthers, cellulose, etc. that go into the composition of this common fruit. And consider the corresponding chemistry inherent in the tastebud that, like so many tumblers matching the key to a lock, results in the sensation of taste, and the perception of flavor. This is an accident? This is the result of some random process? This does not compute, Will Robinson. (had to get a<A HREF="http://catsofruatha.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow"> robot plug</A> in there, didn't you?)<BR/>Which seems to take a greater leap of faith? That there is no intelligence and purpose underlying this tasty set of tumblers and pins, or that someone cut the key to fit the lock.<BR/>I know, I know- It's the old teleological argument- It's the intelligent design hoax trying to pass itself off as science. Just because it makes perfect sense doesn't mean it makes sense does it? It makes sense to me, anyway. Always did. Always will.<BR/><BR/>JWMJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564732483476859555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65744089500638183472009-01-31T11:46:00.000-08:002009-01-31T11:46:00.000-08:00Ah yes, the "Lizard".Of late he's been in a somewh...Ah yes, the "Lizard".<BR/><BR/>Of late he's been in a somewhat more conciliatory mood -- well compared to is normal mood at any rate. He has included some posts which are not outright contemptuous of us backward Christian boors. I guess he's entering his passive-aggressive phase.<BR/><BR/>The comments are still replete with the LGF "type" we've come to know so well: middlebrow neocons who disdain anything that cannot be summed up "rationally" in under 90 seconds. <BR/><BR/>But then I remember, as I always try to do: that was me, years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-32961969687097531062009-01-31T11:38:00.000-08:002009-01-31T11:38:00.000-08:00Queeg is Charles Johnson @ Little Green Footballs....Queeg is Charles Johnson @ Little Green Footballs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-85308770150290981572009-01-31T11:36:00.000-08:002009-01-31T11:36:00.000-08:00Can one of you please help me out: who or what is ...Can one of you please help me out: who or what is "Queeg" (aside from the Captain in the CM)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86257425272679587982009-01-31T11:06:00.000-08:002009-01-31T11:06:00.000-08:00"Gordon concludes by asking, "How can you say inte..."Gordon concludes by asking, "How can you say intelligence is strictly forbidden in [the] 'Darwinian view?' Your equation E = RE+EF is <B>ridiculous</B>" (Evolution = Random Error + Environmental Feedback)."<BR/><BR/>splorf! ISS (tw:Van)<BR/><BR/>the concept/function "ridiculous" itself is also strickly forbidden in E=RE+EF, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>How could I have missed something so deliciously absurd the first go-round<BR/><BR/>wv prods 'likely <I>winessi</I> was somehow involved'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61931429596963910962009-01-31T10:38:00.000-08:002009-01-31T10:38:00.000-08:00WV: ractedin I reactedin surprise and delight t...WV: ractedin I reactedin surprise and delight to the way 2007 folds into the current threads. I must have missed the original, or wasn't paying attention somehow. <BR/><BR/>Epiphanies, and niggling hints of epiphanies to come. Darwin had no intentions of starting a new religion. Nor science nor Darwin have need of "isms" appended. What barbaric places we go riding all the false ism. Keep on keepin' on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-65449233826527010162009-01-31T10:10:00.000-08:002009-01-31T10:10:00.000-08:00Many good points, but this registered as an agreem...Many good points, but this registered as an agreement:<BR/><BR/><I>"...no normal person sets out to love ugliness or know error."</I><BR/><BR/>Considering the cultural detritus we slog through and the tonnage of dis-(not mis-)information that is thrown at us daily, I guess that the word <I>normal</I> is the key to that phrase.<BR/><BR/>A lovely day here, nonetheless! Thanks for the post!walthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01388218390016612051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74743291030793779822009-01-31T09:12:00.000-08:002009-01-31T09:12:00.000-08:00Nothing can give birth to its own womb…unless…And ...Nothing can give birth to its own womb…unless…<BR/><BR/>And beauty implies recognition.<BR/><BR/>“Following Aquinas, he says that the three things necessary to beauty are wholeness, harmony, and radiance, or claritas. It is this third category that has to do with epiphanies, when the soul of the thing, its essential whatness, leaps through its outer appearance and reveals its true nature.”<BR/><BR/>Is this not the truer story, the whole story, or the one of any lasting worth, the take-away from the Van Gogh story? His paintings and letters. Or should we keep bringing up the ear, and the end of the story, just because it happens at the end? Is it to where he was evolving? or where he failed to? The insanity can’t survive without the very sane parts that endure on their own, such as beauty always will, if there are eyes to see it.<BR/><BR/>A priceless post.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.com