tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2825229411983719423..comments2024-03-28T12:10:26.197-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: Cut Out That Signifyin' Jive, or Don't Make Me Come Down There!Gagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66795824212945585422009-04-29T11:09:00.000-07:002009-04-29T11:09:00.000-07:00BTW: the Jihadists and what became AQ in Iraq were...BTW: the Jihadists and what became AQ in Iraq were there before the March 2003 invasion. You didn’t know that did you now? Moreover, they were a vital smuggling link keeping Saddam’s regime alive with Oil-for-Food Program graft during the time that Pres. Clinton was trying to tighten up on the Sanctions. You didn’t know that either did you? <br /><br />As I said earlier, I’ll decline the DNC-Sorosian version of “current truth” because AQ went to Iraq because that is just what jihadists do when they want to defeat and subjugate kaffir..Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-74413877795710026062009-04-29T10:57:00.000-07:002009-04-29T10:57:00.000-07:00So some people provide false confessions under tor...So some people provide false confessions under torture? Are you surprised? I’m not. One need look no further for such examples than those from the Left, in particular Stalin’s Purges and Show Trials (and Beria’s interrogations). But so what? Like any other intelligence operative, any practitioner of this vile art will be aware that he will likely obtain false and inaccurate leads that will need to be winnowed.<br /><br />BTW: Bush hating former CIA operative, Michael Scheuer had much to say on this topic in the Washington Post three days ago:<br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/24/AR2009042403459.htmlMike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86073822996648164452009-04-29T10:43:00.000-07:002009-04-29T10:43:00.000-07:00I’ll decline the DNC-Sorosian version of “current ...I’ll decline the DNC-Sorosian version of “current truth”. You see I’ve read captured Saddamite Iraq Intelligence Service (IIS) files. Saddam had links with AQ. He was very careful to point AQ in our direction so that AQ’s efforts were directed away from his own regime. However, Saddam worked with and provided support to AQ in Somalia in the lead up to “Black Hawk Down”, an AQ operation conducted in cooperation with local jihadists. Saddam was connected to the World Trade Center bombing of February 1993, and Saddam was one of the two state sponsors of the Taliban, host to AQ in Afghanistan. There were operational and support links, but not many. This is just the sort of situation that one might find if Saddam were cultivating AQ to conduct a proxy WMD attack on the US while maintaining plausible deniability for himself (Saddam). There is unconfirmed evidence of Saddams’ involvement in 9/11 coming from Czech Intelligence. I might be willing to argue that Saddam had no direct connection with 9/11, however any such argument would have to be qualified by pointing out that the IIS conducted discreet but thorough purges of something or “somethings” from IIS files sometimes moments before the IIS records were captured by the US military.<br /><br />In any case, Saddam’s connection to 9/11 and/or AQ had little if anything to do with our prudent invasion of Iraq in 2003. Please see the Joint Congressional Resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq in this regard.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13805295617890557112009-04-29T08:40:00.000-07:002009-04-29T08:40:00.000-07:00Thanks, Julie.Thanks, Julie.Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-67838653978069949692009-04-29T08:30:00.000-07:002009-04-29T08:30:00.000-07:00M-O'M said: Obviously, torture works, otherwise it...M-O'M said: <I>Obviously, torture works, otherwise it would not have been employed time after time again for intelligence gathering over the millennia.</I>Torture works really well at producing false confessions, support for bad policies, a class of professional sadists, and a strengthed enemy. As an intelligence-gathering tool, <A HREF="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/torture-it-probably-killed-more-americans-than-911-1674396.html" REL="nofollow">not so much</A>:<br /><br /><I>"The reason why foreign fighters joined al-Qa'ida in Iraq was overwhelmingly because of abuses at Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib and not Islamic ideology," says Major Matthew Alexander, who personally conducted 300 interrogations of prisoners in Iraq...Major Alexander's attitude to torture by the US is a combination of moral outrage and professional contempt. "It plays into the hands of al-Qa'ida in Iraq because it shows us up as hypocrites when we talk about human rights..."People will only tell you the minimum to make the pain stop," he says....<br />In his compelling book How to Break a Terrorist, Major Alexander explains that prisoners subjected to abuse usually clam up, say nothing, or provide misleading information. In an interview he was particularly dismissive of the "ticking bomb" argument often used in the justification of torture...<br /><br />In the aftermath of his experience in Iraq, which he left at the end of 2006, Major Alexander came to believe that the battle against the US using torture was more important than the war in Iraq. He sees President Obama's declaration against torture as "a historic victory", though he is concerned about loopholes remaining and the lack of accountability of senior officers. Reflecting on his own interrogations, he says he always monitored his actions by asking himself, "If the enemy was doing this to one of my troops, would I consider it torture?" His overall message is that the American people do not have to make a choice between torture and terror.</I>See also <A HREF="http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/66622.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>: <br /><br /><I>"There were two reasons why these interrogations were so persistent, and why extreme methods were used," the former senior intelligence official said on condition of anonymity because of the issue's sensitivity.<br /><br />"The main one is that everyone was worried about some kind of follow-up attack (after 9/11). But for most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there."</I>And here's an example of coerced false confession that might be <A HREF="http://www.justicedenied.org/inthenameofthefather.htm" REL="nofollow">closer to home</A> for you.mtravenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02356162954308418556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-38367921294134174812009-04-29T07:26:00.000-07:002009-04-29T07:26:00.000-07:00Ricky, sounds like a plan to me. Just let me chug ...Ricky, sounds like a plan to me. Just let me chug this vat of industrial strength Kool Aid...<br /><br />Before that kicks in and I start chanting to the big O and feeling tingles in the legs (the warning label says not to worry, it's only due to a critical loss of circulation. I won't need my legs anymore, because the holy one will provide ambulation for me), here's how to fix the line spacing problem:<br /><br />after the last closing arrow (>), put in a space <I>before</I> hitting return.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-36905311649616809192009-04-29T06:48:00.000-07:002009-04-29T06:48:00.000-07:00Maineman,
RE flyover, the King said he was sorry, ...Maineman,<br />RE flyover, the King said he was sorry, and that it would never. happen. again.<br />So I’m thinking, King for life?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-90507674773992426112009-04-29T05:53:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:53:00.000-07:00Anonymous said...Torture is stupid. It doesn't eve...Anonymous said...<I>Torture is stupid. It doesn't even work. (gratuitous pornographic insults of our host omitted)<br /><br /> Sheesh. Basic stuff here.<br /><br /> 4/28/2009 10:12:00 PM </I>.<br /><br /><br />Do we not have here evidence of willful self deception? Or is this part of the deceptive rhetoric of the Will to Power?<br /><br />Obviously, torture works, otherwise it would not have been employed time after time again for intelligence gathering over the millennia.<br /><br />I seem to recall that less than a year ago no few Left-wingers spent much time saddistically mocking and degrading Lt. John McCain for having broken under torture as a POW. Now, as in the days of Stalin, the new party line has gone out and they sing a different tune.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39894051851479891412009-04-29T05:52:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:52:00.000-07:00Meanwhile, back to H's persistent efforts to decon...Meanwhile, back to H's persistent efforts to deconstruct, frighten, depress, denigrate, and ultimately rebuild America in his own image, the question keeps coming up in my mind as to whether this is resulting from conscious, Alinsky-driven, Marxist intent or whether the bus is more accurately seen as under the control of Alinsky's mentor.<br /><br />There's talk on the web about the likelihood that, since Barry obviously knew about the flyover, it was yet another intentional effort to demoralize us, as specified in the Alinsky playbook. You could see the "torture debate" in the same light.<br /><br />To me, it seems a bit closer to reality to see it as more in the vein of giving McCain the finger right before the election, just the kind of thing one does when hollowed out by leftism and, as a result, a servant of the serpent.<br /><br />Does anyone have a take on which it is, if even the question is the right one to ask?mainemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1162561507579881002009-04-29T05:39:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:39:00.000-07:00"Truth can be found only in the floating middle be..."Truth can be found only in the floating middle between the appearance and the thing that appears. It is only in the relation between these two things that the empty mystery becomes a full, perennially self-replenishing mystery"<br /><br />Is this not what we call the Holy Ghost?mainemannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7668947623492409752009-04-29T05:26:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:26:00.000-07:00..subject the accused to the usual tried and true ...<I>..subject the accused to the usual tried and true good cop bad cop up all night bright lights lock you up cheese sandwiches for a couple of years should do the trick..</I>Sometimes you don't have a couple of years.<br /><br />And you can't tell me that the BDS afflicted moonbats wouldn't rabidly attack our former "eco-villain" with any less vitriol should he have only used your methods.<br /><br />I imagine that it takes quite a bit of standing on your head to turn caterpillars into thumbscrews.Rivotallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06073155774408558079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-75287422688214635942009-04-29T05:20:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:20:00.000-07:00So how did the Raccoon’s solve the comment window ...So how did the Raccoon’s solve the comment window line break prob?<br />Stupid blogger roonin all me jokes. Well…maybe not all of um.<br /><br />Anway, keep the answer short, please. Ya know they charge ya by the letter here. Good thing I have short arms.rick@tattoo parlornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-32300804167457579962009-04-29T05:13:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:13:00.000-07:00Ah should sigh sew....Ah should sigh sew....Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13816392487061998932009-04-29T05:08:00.000-07:002009-04-29T05:08:00.000-07:00Rubber Chicken Alert!Bob is Pro-Laugh
(You hadda...<I>Rubber Chicken Alert!</I>Bob is Pro-Laugh<br /><br /><br />(You hadda be there)<br /><br /><br />RRThe Good Humor Mannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63562119351571194692009-04-29T03:54:00.000-07:002009-04-29T03:54:00.000-07:00Anonymous said...Of course power is what matters m...Anonymous said...<I>Of course power is what matters most. What did you think? <br />Seize power, and then you won't have to bitch about it. <br />That's my advice to you.</I>.<br /><br /><br />And so Anonymous, perhaps in his most honest self revelation (?), returns us to <I>der Wille zur Macht</I> Nietzsche's "will to power", an era of "immense wars of the spirit", and a "necessary" inability to empathize with the suffering of others. Yes the Left has treated us to such "delights" on any number of occasions during the 20th Century.<br /><br />Indeed...<br /><br />Ash nazg durbatulûk<br />ash nazg gimbatul<br />ash nazg thrakatulûk agh urzum-ishi krimpatul.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72064613603689979732009-04-29T03:36:00.000-07:002009-04-29T03:36:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Mike O'Malleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03786963522098086259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39701839673278974922009-04-28T22:12:00.000-07:002009-04-28T22:12:00.000-07:00Torture is stupid. It doesn't even work. So you ...Torture is stupid. It doesn't even work. So you masturbate your mind's anger center to satisfaction, and then go wipe your filthy hands on a towel and go home to the wife and kids. Vomit.<br /><br />Screw that. Subject the accused to the usual tried and true good cop bad cop up all night bright lights lock you up cheese sandwiches for a couple of years should do the trick and you don't have to be kneeling in front of Jesus after you die explaining your stupidity in the torture chamber.<br /><br />Sheesh. Basic stuff here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-25188708942978296332009-04-28T21:59:00.000-07:002009-04-28T21:59:00.000-07:00Of course power is what matters most. What did yo...Of course power is what matters most. What did you think? <br /><br />Seize power, and then you won't have to bitch about it. <br /><br />That's my advice to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12378291945474297202009-04-28T21:18:00.000-07:002009-04-28T21:18:00.000-07:00Isn't it fabulous how Obama has reconciled with ou...Isn't it fabulous how Obama has reconciled with our enemies and put fear into the hearts of Americans? Does any image illustrate so neatly the wrongheadedness of the Obama administration than Americans scrambling in terror from Air Force One? <br /><br />tw:Ace (From Tantor)ximezenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83205632321200964322009-04-28T21:09:00.000-07:002009-04-28T21:09:00.000-07:00deer aninnymouse,
I have a challenge for you. See...deer aninnymouse,<br /><br />I have a challenge for you. Seeing as though ignorance, immaturity and downright stupidity are common traits of those who sign themselves anonymously, my challenge to you is this, meet your challenges head on, ask the big guy for help:<br /><br />"Dear G,<br />I keep coming up with these idiotic comments. Isn't there anything you can do about this? I know you say that you help those who help themselves, but... I'm helpless... come on... can't you save me from me... anonymously?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Yours,<br />(you know who I am… even if I don’t)"Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-20874920225650776662009-04-28T20:36:00.000-07:002009-04-28T20:36:00.000-07:00Fartive.
Like a furtive fart.
You know- the old SB...Fartive.<br />Like a furtive fart.<br />You know- the old SBD.<br /><br />JWMJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564732483476859555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24301032788340605802009-04-28T20:20:00.000-07:002009-04-28T20:20:00.000-07:00"Here again, this is one of the master keys to und..."Here again, this is one of the master keys to understanding the postmodern left. <B>In order for leftism to be effective, it must first dissolve the sacred covenant between word and thing -- which is where truth resides -- and replace that bond with mere power.</B> <br /><br />This is the magic through which they can make the Constitution mean anything they want it to mean, or redefine marriage, or say that the Geneva Convention applies to terrorists..."<br /><br />Yep, it is the very place where the leftists heart and soul would be... if lefists could have either....<br /><br />It is fruit of what Descartes, Hume and Kant did in seperating quantity from quality, action from thought, fact from truth [insert relevant rant against Cartesian doubt, Hume & Kant <A HREF="http://blogodidact.blogspot.com/2008/03/liberal-fascism-getting-to-root-of.html" REL="nofollow">Here</A>].<br /><br />Another good OC Day missed out on... so annoying when you have to work at work.<br /><br />Sheesh.<br /><br />Ok, wv is getting snide again:<br />wv:fartive<br /><br />I mean... <I>really</I>.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69447299744283568762009-04-28T20:14:00.000-07:002009-04-28T20:14:00.000-07:00H as in Heckler?H as in Heckler?Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10589423819039764711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78742623697683366382009-04-28T20:05:00.000-07:002009-04-28T20:05:00.000-07:00H:
I have an easier way. Just don't laugh.H:<br /><br />I have an easier way. Just don't laugh.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-76767103405640085022009-04-28T19:42:00.000-07:002009-04-28T19:42:00.000-07:00It's not about torture. It's about taking America ...It's not about torture. It's about taking America down a peg. <br /><br />JWMJWMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05564732483476859555noreply@blogger.com