tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2673064505746900253..comments2024-03-18T21:33:35.309-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: A Passion For EternityGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-61976222087636513542012-12-13T14:24:18.218-08:002012-12-13T14:24:18.218-08:00Now that's funny, Mush - just a bit ago, playi...Now that's funny, Mush - just a bit ago, playing in the background here was the story of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1933_double_eagle" rel="nofollow">1933 double eagle coins</a>, minted after FDR declared <i>all your gold are belong to us</i>, but before anybody told the US mint. The relevant part, of course, is when FDR decreed that everyone must turn in their gold at the bank, in exchange for other forms of currency.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-32431420229456069042012-12-13T14:13:46.543-08:002012-12-13T14:13:46.543-08:00Yes, you can almost understand why he thought it w...Yes, you can almost understand why he thought it was a demon -- demon caffeine. <br /><br />One Bible joke is when Aaron (Curly) is explaining to Moses (Moe) about the golden calf: <i>So I said to them, ‘Let any who have gold take it off.’ So they gave it to me, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf.” </i> <br /><br />The next line -- not recorded -- is, "Why you knucklehead! I oughta -- ". Doink!mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14890308406347331132012-12-13T13:52:18.396-08:002012-12-13T13:52:18.396-08:00Julie, cooncur.
Seinfeld proved that Superman mus...Julie, cooncur.<br /><br />Seinfeld proved that Superman must have superhumor. Or maybe it was Sheed. Anyway, I swear I felt at least a couple jokes in the Bible.<br /><br />New word for your review:<br /><br />finfinityRickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54566807445395419162012-12-13T13:46:26.347-08:002012-12-13T13:46:26.347-08:00"If he couldn't be surprised, he wouldn&#..."If he couldn't be surprised, he wouldn't be one of us."<br /><br />So you know which parts I'm talking about... :-)<br /><br />Seems the Cosmos would be awfully dull if One knew how everything turned out in every detail.<br /><br />Maybe Its like that joke in "It's a Wonderful Life" when George asks his pregnant wife, "iiiis it gonna be a boy or a girl?"<br /><br />She says, "Uh huh!"Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13720790978632771716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-50029648733652679182012-12-13T13:26:24.335-08:002012-12-13T13:26:24.335-08:00Mush, not really OT. The kid was still sensitive....Mush, not really OT. The kid was still sensitive. Hadn't been dulled by caffiene use. <br /><br />Makes me see the wisdom of asceticism. By avoiding the big shocks of the world it allows you develop your sensitivity to the more delicate signals that would be drowned out otherwise.John Lienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302615225311776021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-14546849009998378342012-12-13T12:20:17.638-08:002012-12-13T12:20:17.638-08:00They can have my energy shot when they pry it from...They can have my energy shot when they pry it from my limp, sleeping hands.<br /><br />Re. the Vivarin, yikes! I took one once when I was in high school; made my heart race, and I was no stranger to caffeine. That kid must have been terrified.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-33639155613605446032012-12-13T12:11:54.713-08:002012-12-13T12:11:54.713-08:00OT -- They came for the 5-hour Energy, and I said ...OT -- <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/feds-raise-hackles-over-5-hour-energy-drink_666423.html" rel="nofollow">They came for the 5-hour Energy</a>, and I said nothing ... because I was nodding. <br /><br />I did know a boy who went off the deep end so badly one morning that his mother called her pastor to come up and perform an exorcism. He took me along just in case the devil needed somewhere to go, I guess. <br /><br />It turns out the kid had worked late the night before stocking shelves at a grocery and one of his coworkers had given him some Vivarin. He had no idea what was in it or what to expect. He'd been raised in some variation of Seventh Day Adventism and had never had caffeine in his life.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7475136413259860652012-12-13T12:05:32.266-08:002012-12-13T12:05:32.266-08:00We are all completely out of control! God help us....We are all completely out of control! God help us. And he is.tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354048695798015131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4398987918611766102012-12-13T12:04:45.183-08:002012-12-13T12:04:45.183-08:00In a way, instead of love at first sight, it's...In a way, instead of love at first sight, it's sight at first love. In other words, you only see the thing because you love it (at first implicitly), and then the love for it just grows. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-63204205310864241362012-12-13T12:04:35.997-08:002012-12-13T12:04:35.997-08:00Yes, same here. Once upon a time, I decided it mig...Yes, same here. Once upon a time, I decided it might be interesting to learn more about this whole Trinity thing...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-13099531141901453362012-12-13T12:02:17.454-08:002012-12-13T12:02:17.454-08:00"as for my recent quest for God, it simply st..."as for my recent quest for God, it simply started out as a turning towards God. The rest just followed."<br /><br />Ditto. I had no idea it would get this out of hand. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-49685041286442963722012-12-13T11:51:42.561-08:002012-12-13T11:51:42.561-08:00...they are as dysfunctional as the people they tr...<i>...they are as dysfunctional as the people they treat.</i><br /><br />For a very brief few months (in MSMY), I was a psychometric tech at a state mental hospital. Most of the other techs were OK, as were most of the inmates, but several of the docs were nuts. At the time, as a kid, I thought it was maybe that I didn't understand how deep and brilliant they were. Now that I'm older, I'm pretty sure they were at least as out of touch as they seemed at the time.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-72144662099367148032012-12-13T11:48:52.857-08:002012-12-13T11:48:52.857-08:00Man! I'm loving this. Gonna have to buy the ...Man! I'm loving this. Gonna have to buy the book. Maybe read it, even.<br /><br />Yes to the knowledge/love connection. My experience, and probabably everyone else's, has been I love X first and then I really learn about X.<br /><br />Now, as to why I love X? Not sure about that part.<br /><br />Come to think of it, as for my recent quest for God, it simply started out as a turning towards God. The rest just followed.<br /><br />THIS IS BIG!John Lienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302615225311776021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66859895893587120142012-12-13T11:16:33.847-08:002012-12-13T11:16:33.847-08:00And like any end-stage disease, it's incredibl...And like any end-stage disease, it's incredibly expensive...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83181681186780875632012-12-13T11:15:13.932-08:002012-12-13T11:15:13.932-08:00Ted -- what is even sadder about that is that I...Ted -- what is even sadder about that is that I've worked with these people, and they are as dysfunctional as the people they treat. In particular, I did my internship at Camarillo State Mental Hospital, and the psychiatrists and psychologists there couldn't possibly have been employable outside the state.<br /><br />In California we are experiencing end-stage liberalism.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-7114758269655744582012-12-13T11:12:20.711-08:002012-12-13T11:12:20.711-08:00Bob, this is humorous. You were almost in the righ...Bob, <a href="http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2012/12/13/more-california-chaos-psychiatrists-making-millions/" rel="nofollow">this</a> is humorous. You were almost in the right business.tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354048695798015131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-35448206780090317442012-12-13T10:57:54.160-08:002012-12-13T10:57:54.160-08:00Julie, that was to your previous post.Julie, that was to your previous post.David J Quackenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11873818923450408281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-88127337394741852022012-12-13T10:56:29.898-08:002012-12-13T10:56:29.898-08:00Julie, yes, right! I think that's why Giussa...Julie, yes, right! I think that's why Giussani's example is so powerful for me. I might start off with high ambition to "go down" and rescue someone from their desire swamp, by pointing them to a better object. But it rapidly happens that the festering is just too powerful, and I can't see how the particular yucky scent they are following is really a sign of the real good. So, I think, I just give up on them and get out of the swamp, back to dry ground of more clearly true and good desires. <br /><br />Sometimes, no doubt, everyone but Jesus enters swamps he just has to let fester. But I think that I, in fact, tend much too often to let that possibility encourage in me an impatience to really accompany other people in the adventure of discovering what is really moving them. I'm in a hurry to show them how the Good appears to ME, and to show them how swampy their desires are. But if Giussani is right, the really urgent thing for them to learn, see and follow is actually already at work in this desire, and in turning away from it, perhaps in obedience or imitation of me, they lose the possibility of learning to notice, to judge, what they really want. And if I spend my time encouraging that, it seems to me I'm primarily teaching myself and others to abstract ourselves from how reality actually moves us. And we will, accordingly, see the Real less and less well. <br /><br />But I really do agree with you, and so that just shows that it takes courage, wisdom, and the example of our betters to learn how to inquire into the loves of others, to really ask about them, to expect to LEARN something from them. <br /><br />Because, finally, I need to see much better that my own swamp-hunt is the Right Track if I just trust that my own circumstances are a sign of the True and the Good.David J Quackenbushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11873818923450408281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86384991409492512932012-12-13T10:42:28.970-08:002012-12-13T10:42:28.970-08:00Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me if God c...Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to me if God couldn't be surprised, humor would be impossible.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-48999993699340754332012-12-13T10:40:48.472-08:002012-12-13T10:40:48.472-08:00Or Other them, I guess...Or Other them, I guess...Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83332594895554605512012-12-13T10:40:25.345-08:002012-12-13T10:40:25.345-08:00Or better yet Dreamer and Dream. Our dreams are f...Or better yet Dreamer and Dream. Our dreams are full of surprises, even though we author them. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-4184699426531953622012-12-13T10:39:22.972-08:002012-12-13T10:39:22.972-08:00Also, I like to think that God can be surprised, e...Also, I like to think that God can be surprised, even though this would superficially seem to contradict omniscience. I think of a kind of Godhead <--> God complementarity that is analogous to the conscious <--> unconscious complementarity in man (or, we are analogous to it). At least it helps me think the unthinkable. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45678305262144157862012-12-13T10:36:29.790-08:002012-12-13T10:36:29.790-08:00Rick
If Jesus is the infinite become finite, the...Rick<br /> <br />If Jesus is the infinite become finite, then that itself will produce great mysteries, including to his own finite nature. If he couldn't be surprised, he wouldn't be one of us. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12926852369210401592012-12-13T10:33:33.762-08:002012-12-13T10:33:33.762-08:00As the rabbis say, at the very least, each of us c...As the rabbis say, at the very least, each of us carries the missing part of someone else. Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-12441646674439014302012-12-13T10:29:29.037-08:002012-12-13T10:29:29.037-08:00One of the great tragedies in life is never discov...<i>One of the great tragedies in life is never discovering the Thing that speaks to us in this cosmically intimate way -- that for which we are gifted.</i><br /><br />Kind of makes me wonder if some are not passing through this world gifted for another one. But, yes, most of us could find the Thing if we will seek it.mushroomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07651027035577798096noreply@blogger.com