tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post2578778059735513847..comments2024-03-27T11:16:36.951-07:00Comments on One Cʘsmos: From the Rule of Law to the Rule of the LightbringerGagdad Bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-28566004958825039222012-02-17T13:27:44.202-08:002012-02-17T13:27:44.202-08:00For some reason, I don't associate Van with &q...For some reason, I don't associate Van with "Christian conservative upbringing."<br /><br />Could be those Vegas stories.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-83829315052851270532012-02-17T13:02:06.630-08:002012-02-17T13:02:06.630-08:00willian doubled down with
"Guess you're ...willian doubled down with <br />"Guess you're more responsible and more virtuous than me."<br /><br />Duh, 'Leftist', hello?<br /><br /><br />"Must be your Christian conservative upbri..."<br /><br />I do love it when leftists <b>ass</b><i>U</i>m... but I'd rather you didn't include me in that. With you. Eew.<br /><br />"...I publically apologize to Van for my lack of abstinence a..."<br /><br />You are a sad, strange little man.<br /><br />"my parents have been married 52 years - highschool sweethearts and together ever since. Yours?"<br /><br />Separated by death at 49 years, but thanks for asking. And don't worry, I'm sure yours still love you, that's what responsible parents do. Even though it is the right and responsible thing to do, return their love while you still can.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-92100120787497374802012-02-17T09:04:43.335-08:002012-02-17T09:04:43.335-08:00willian's voice cracked mewling "often it...willian's voice cracked mewling "often it takes more responsibility NOT to get preggers"<br /><br />Yeah, and being mature enough to control yourself and your actions is <i>clearly</i> not a factor in being responsible, <i>clearly</i> the govt should step in and provide you the materials you need so as to be able to allow your impulses to... pulse... as the fit comes upon you.<br /><br />Obviously the next step will be govt monitored pregger-agencies, where adoltolescents such as willian can empty their organs in a safe and secure facility, with whomever, and whatever, lifestyle partners they might choose.<br /><br />Responsibility - remember kids, when faced with the prospect, always put it off on to others.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-45419558059118035042012-02-17T08:44:25.371-08:002012-02-17T08:44:25.371-08:00In a way, yes, because the world needs more mature...In a way, yes, because the world needs more mature men, so his immature genes will end with him. So long as he can tap that cow for free, there's no way a guy like him is gonna buy it.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-15469167036792890532012-02-17T08:42:02.525-08:002012-02-17T08:42:02.525-08:00So from a Darwinian standpoint, I wonder whether h...So from a Darwinian standpoint, I wonder whether he isn't doing the species a favor by making sure his genes don't make it to the next generation?juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-1265360257959935532012-02-17T08:35:21.494-08:002012-02-17T08:35:21.494-08:00Julie -- Historically that is indeed why men favor...Julie -- Historically that is indeed why men favored abortion -- so high SES men could avoid having babies as a result of their dalliances with low-class women.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3693591052345615522012-02-17T08:31:54.608-08:002012-02-17T08:31:54.608-08:00Good point. Well, I'm sure there are some plac...Good point. Well, I'm sure there are some places in Germany where he can find some good advice on preventing that sort of thing...juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-6136058663289413162012-02-17T08:26:59.945-08:002012-02-17T08:26:59.945-08:00Julie, give him a break. If he knocks up Iska, it...Julie, give him a break. If he knocks up Iska, it's the end of his adolescence.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-89468890380447458702012-02-17T08:11:44.800-08:002012-02-17T08:11:44.800-08:00Dios mio, man. I keep thinking you can't get a...<i>Dios mio</i>, man. I keep thinking you can't get any stupider, and you keep proving me wrong.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-39860378646793020652012-02-17T08:07:43.852-08:002012-02-17T08:07:43.852-08:00Yea, Julie?
So, your in favor of this state manda...<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2666580/posts" rel="nofollow">Yea, Julie?</a><br /><br />So, your in favor of this state mandated intrusion / humiliation?Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05861596158055480390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-54041443399871468392012-02-17T08:04:16.171-08:002012-02-17T08:04:16.171-08:00Frothing at the mouth is never attractive; it'...Frothing at the mouth is never attractive; it's no wonder your comment got deleted, you sound deranged. Anyway, all subscribers saw your comments, Willy boy; I wonder, did you have to stop to wipe all that spittle off your screen?<br /><br />As to the "horror" of vaginal ultrasounds, oh give me a farkin break. It is literally <i>nothing</i> compared to the horror of the tools they use to scrape, vacuum, chop, and do whatever else it takes to murder that little person and pull the pieces out. That is quite possibly the most retarded argument against the ultrasound I have heard yet.juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-53188449278666198312012-02-17T08:00:05.044-08:002012-02-17T08:00:05.044-08:00They probably figured out that some of those babie...They probably figured out that some of those babies are female.Gagdad Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14249005793605006679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-66917066844949591752012-02-17T06:29:44.092-08:002012-02-17T06:29:44.092-08:00Thought experiment:
"For males, ejaculation...Thought experiment: <br /><br />"For males, ejaculation is a pleasurable bodily function, on the same level as relieving a full bladder. It doesn't matter how this event is achieved. It has no meaning beyond physical tension and release." <br /><br />It baffles me to hear about people who aren't at all bothered by how reductive this is. It's as if they equate the reduction to pure animality with some sort of Truth, and even feel triumphant about it. Literally, it's stupid: such a reduction stupefies us to everything *else* about sex, and that stupefaction is supposed to represent human progress and liberty?<br /><br />It's like watching your fellows give themselves lobotomies whilst masturbating in a circle. Does anyone else find that incredibly sad, pathetic, and reductive? They deserve nothing but easy and untroubled ridicule.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-71714356690382231592012-02-17T04:51:31.817-08:002012-02-17T04:51:31.817-08:00Nothing's wrong with Germany, Julie.
It's...Nothing's wrong with Germany, Julie.<br /><br />It's a lifestyle choice. <br /><br />All lifestyles are right.<br /><br />Because they are lifestyles.<br /><br />It's an asthetic thing.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-35624437592508824792012-02-16T20:56:43.311-08:002012-02-16T20:56:43.311-08:00The war may have ended, but the philosophy keeps g...The war may have ended, but the philosophy keeps going, and going, and going downnnn....<br /><br />But, as willian says, it's not as if there's a gulag state, so what wie worry, right? <br /><br />I'll bet willian and his cat would be very happy there!Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-24292596946287002382012-02-16T20:20:50.610-08:002012-02-16T20:20:50.610-08:00This is very clever, because it recognizes the nee...<i>This is very clever, because it recognizes the need to ground the rule of law in a higher law, but simply identifies the man with the law. You know, as in Deutschland c. 1933-1945. If this weren't such an elevated blog, we might call Obama's new political hybrid Doucheland.</i><br /><br />Speaking of Deutschland, wtf is <a href="http://bigpeace.com/stzu/2012/02/05/new-craze-in-germany-animal-brothels/#idc-cover" rel="nofollow">WRONG with Germany?</a>juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15975754287030568726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-78779468034481883422012-02-16T11:44:55.989-08:002012-02-16T11:44:55.989-08:00"2: State "I'm not so sure that Plan..."2: State "I'm not so sure that Planned Parenthood is a good thing:<br /><br />3: (if still standing/unconvinced) State "I'm thinking no public funds should be allowed to fund them in any way""<br /><br />Now that is funny.<br /><br />I had forgotten that Planned Parenthood existed.<br /><br />I've got a HuffPo poster living behind me. Now, there is a fence separating our property...<br /><br />...so I could go over the fence and try it in person.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-5145632213752906812012-02-16T11:27:39.489-08:002012-02-16T11:27:39.489-08:00JP said "I'm not sure they know it."...JP said "I'm not sure they know it."<br /><br />JP, here's a way you can test your assumption:<br />1: Venture into a leftist site (I'd suggest virtually, rather than physically... 'dead men tell no tales' and all that).<br /><br />2: State "I'm not so sure that Planned Parenthood is a good thing:<br /><br />3: (if still standing/unconvinced) State "I'm thinking no public funds should be allowed to fund them in any way"<br /><br />Read the comments you engender (yes, I'm assuming you did so virtually... you're still breathing/unconvinced).<br /><br />They know who you are.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84885634480475091952012-02-16T11:19:28.290-08:002012-02-16T11:19:28.290-08:00Van says:
"Know thy enemy... especially the ...Van says:<br /><br />"Know thy enemy... especially the fact that they are your enemy, and they know it."<br /><br />I'm not sure they know it. I think they are full of some sort of goo at this point.<br /><br />In fact, I'm no longer sure they know anything.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84697720141166013502012-02-16T11:17:40.219-08:002012-02-16T11:17:40.219-08:00And from that blog post:
"This is an ingenio...And from that blog post:<br /><br />"This is an ingenious philosophical prophecy. But the obvious problem with it is that history has not so far worked this way, and Bilgrami offers no good reasons for us to think that it will in the future either."<br /><br />Oh, he's developed a novel a prioi escheaton!<br /><br />They always work.<br /><br />I wonder why someone didn't think of that sooner.JPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126071014909954387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-86731071020129864912012-02-16T11:17:25.908-08:002012-02-16T11:17:25.908-08:00"Wilson, who was a Hegelian and a Darwinian, ..."Wilson, who was a Hegelian and a Darwinian, essentially wanted to replace the divine right of kings with the divine right of the state (in Hegel's sense of the state embodying the Divine Idea or absolute principle)."<br /><br />Yep. Seeing is believing, look at what <a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?subcategory=9" rel="nofollow">Wilson had to say himself:</a><br />Especially <a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=942" rel="nofollow">What is Progress?</a>, and <a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=2208" rel="nofollow">Socialism and Democracy </a>, and <a href="http://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/index.asp?document=466" rel="nofollow">Excerpts from the President’s Committee on Administrative Management</a><br /><br />Know thy enemy... especially the fact that they are your enemy, and they know it.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-3767798605847559352012-02-16T11:07:07.416-08:002012-02-16T11:07:07.416-08:00@julie. Nice!
The fact prohibition became a const...@julie. Nice!<br /><br />The fact prohibition became a constitutional amendment really is amazing.<br /><br />Cannibals elect cannibal kings. So we have only to blame ourselves.<br /><br />We have slowly destroyed this country over the last 100 years. I don't believe you can't stop it. There are not enough of us principled folk. <br /><br />Everything Cycles (spirals?). Why would we be an exception? <br /><br />It's just watching it happen in slo-mo that's killin' me. <br /><br />Thanks for the swell posts Bob!<br /><br />I'll be in my bunk(er).<br /><br />(Maybe, come spring, I'll be less gloomy but the more I learn of history the less hopeful I am.)John Lienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02302615225311776021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-79359115600336948962012-02-16T10:57:47.256-08:002012-02-16T10:57:47.256-08:00"Thus, the rule of man is always the rule of ..."Thus, the rule of man is always the rule of power and inequality, unless said man subordinates himself to the higher law, in which case it is no longer the rule of man, precisely."<br /><br /><i>Boom!</i> Winning.Van Harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08470413719262297062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-84116896022415139702012-02-16T10:39:13.634-08:002012-02-16T10:39:13.634-08:00JP
They're not worried about goo and un-gooin...JP<br /><br />They're not worried about goo and un-gooing. Example:<br /><br />"Atheism (a rather loaded term) denies religion’s propositional truth, while secularism is a 'stance towards religion' taken in pursuit of non-religious ends, and which, as such, cannot be true or false."<br /><br />http://blogs.ssrc.org/tif/2012/02/02/religion-and-state-secularization/<br /><br />You see, it's just a "stance." No metaphysics involved, none desired. Nothing to see here but, apparently, the projections of your own metaphysical hang-ups.<br /><br />Feel better? Here's the kicker:<br /><br />"Because the secularism that underpins state neutrality is regarded just as a stance set into a particular cultural orientation, Bilgrami contends that mere philosophic argument cannot persuade its enemies of state neutrality’s virtues. That will only happen in history, which Bilgrami claims will follow a particular trajectory. In the future, he supposes, ostensibly unified religious polities will divide. Internal conflicts will erupt in them. They will then be exposed to secularist persuasion by outsiders who can successfully point out contradictions in the confessional polity’s values and legitimations. Appeals to atheism or positive secularism need not play a role in this process either."<br /><br />In short, secularism wins because the metaphysicians will bicker and make most people frustrated with them. Then the secular state appears as the neutral arbiter, and so rakes in all the cultural and political winnings.<br /><br />No goo necessary.<br /><br />So they argue.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8580258.post-69366122023055641172012-02-16T10:28:41.843-08:002012-02-16T10:28:41.843-08:00Bang on.
Bob, this is great. It's good that N...Bang on.<br /><br />Bob, this is great. It's good that Nelson's book is getting the recognition it deserves. It has energized a lot of related work, all of which is welcome.<br /><br />He's going to lecture at Notre Dame next fall, having won one of their awards, so let's hope he helps that poor institution back on the wagon. Some faculty and admins have obviously been hitting the Obama Koolaid like its a college kegger.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00987042455512485699noreply@blogger.com